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Interview with Human rights expert David Lopez, about US-Israel attack on Iran. teleSUR
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00:01So now as we continue to report on this unfolding situation, to expand the
00:07overview of this, of what is happening right now in Iran in the Middle East, we
00:10are joined by human rights experts David Lopez. Welcome David to this
00:15special broadcast on the unfortunate events that are currently taking place in Iran.
00:20So to begin quickly, what is your first assessment of what is currently
00:25happening in Iran following this Israeli and US joint aggression against the people of Iran?
00:32Yeah, so thank you. Thank you very much for the invitation. So right now it's
00:38serious because it normalizes a security doctrine where false replace the law. The US and Israel have
00:48acknowledged major military operation in Iran, including strikes affecting Tehran. And this
00:56opens a path to a regional escalation with global speedovers, energy,
01:04track roads, aviation and Gulf stability. So strategically, it's not an isolated incident.
01:11This is a signal about how power will be extended internationally. Overall, right now, where we have to take
01:20consideration the former attack 3 January against Venezuela. This is totally connected. And we will see
01:30what is going to happen during this week because actually in Geneva, we are in the current of the
01:36Human Rights Council. We're going to see which behavior and which comment will adopt the OHCHR and the Human
01:44Rights Council as well regarding this illegal attack from the United States and Israel.
01:50David, we're now getting right now again report of the second launching of the second wave of the
01:55Iranian legitimate defense response towards Israel, towards the attacker. So seeing how this conflict
02:05is escalating quickly in comparison to what happened last year from the 12-day war, we are seeing Iran
02:10hitting their targets very quickly. And not only Israel, but also targeting all the different US military bases in
02:16the region in several countries in the region. So what can we see, what can we expect from what this
02:22escalation is going to mean, as you were saying previously, on the impact they will have for the
02:28economy in the region first, and then we'll talk about the other areas.
02:34It's hard because we have to remember that actually it had some negotiations between the United States
02:43and Iran here in Geneva two days ago, by the way, or the mediation of Oman. Here we're going to
02:51have
02:51two elements in the geopolitical regard. Maybe the first is the coercion during the negotiation.
02:59And the negotiating with one hand while bombing with the other signal diplomacy is subordinate
03:07to force. The second one, the message to the wider Eurasian balance. Iran is embedded in
03:17in regional connectivity and security dynamics, where Russia and China have substantial strategic
03:25interest on the region. So this pushes the system toward block logic rather than a role-based
03:34stabilization. It will be very interesting what's going to happen right now, which measures going to
03:41take China and Russia, who just some weeks ago, realized some military exercises in the Ormond stretch.
03:54What's going to happen right now? It will be very interesting. We see that right now it have some
04:01attacks in response to the attack of this morning. So we see that the capital of Saudi Arabia
04:08Ukraine was attacked. The 5th Marine base of the United States was attacked as well. And of course,
04:16the economy will be very, very, very strong affected. And as well, the human rights implication will be
04:26very, very, very, very large and very stark. And we're going to have many warriors about that.
04:39And it will be very important to have a look about the situation and as well, what's going to happen
04:44in
04:44Latin America, because I think all it's connected as well.
04:49How do you see them all these dots connecting? How do you see them connected?
04:55So I think that the US will not attack Iran if he has not totally control about the oil reserves
05:08in
05:08Venezuela. If you want to make an attack in the other side of the world, you need to have the
05:15oil.
05:15And with the illegal attacks they made against Venezuela, the pressure they make against the
05:23country, they think maybe that it's the time to attack an NMI who can be maybe deleted, maybe use it
05:34to
05:35attack at the end or to make much more pressure to the real NMI of the United States, who is
05:40China.
05:40And of course, Venezuela, in this sense, is a job strategical country who will deserve to the
05:54maybe logistical and substantial oil for the attacks of the United States. But as well,
06:02we have to take into account that the United States is very disperated, as well Israel. And of course,
06:14right now, they have not 100% control of Venezuela, because again, Venezuela is governed by the Bolivarian
06:25government. But they make the impression that actually Venezuela can't resist. Actually,
06:34actually, this is important to mention that. And of course, United States will use that to make much
06:41more pressures to this country, to Venezuela, to provide to them all the energy oil they need to make
06:49attacks in another place around the world. I think that the world is actually devised in three
06:57regions, America's Europe and Asia, and maybe United States want to control
07:03Americans, Russia, maybe Europe and Africa and China, Asia, but the United States has a mentality,
07:11the mentality of the empire, they will not stop only in America. And we see what happened today.
07:16So this is the example about what is the world of the United States and what represents for the United
07:25States the international law. Actually, we're in a big crisis of international law. And unfortunately,
07:34the international law deserves only like a paper you can put on the trust and repair it just when it's
07:43needed by the Western countries. You were saying that the United States will not stop in America.
07:50It will certainly not stop in Iran. Now they're going for Iran. What do you think will be the next
07:56step
07:56after what they're doing currently in Iran? So we're going to see until which point
08:04United States is disposed to go because we see on the world of the 12 days that Israel don't support,
08:14don't resist the attacks of Iran. They need the help of the United States. But we know as well that
08:21United States is actually in a domestic crisis. So the social crisis,
08:29political crisis, political crisis as well, economical and financial crisis. And in November,
08:35Mr. Trump will be evaluated in the middle mandate to know if he will continue in the power of the
08:42United
08:42States. Will the attack of Iran
08:46Iran provide many victims of the U.S. militaries until the point that the American
08:58people will have a reaction, negative reaction for the interest of Donald Trump? And maybe will
09:05the government change the position? We, this is something we have to evaluate because of course,
09:13right now the situation, it's started just today with this attack, but we don't know until which
09:19point it can go. The risk taken by Israel and the United States, it's very big. We don't know which
09:29will be the behavior of Russia and China, because here when you attack Iran, you attack as well the
09:36interests of China and Russia, much more that attack in Venezuela. So the next step, I think, will be to
09:47evaluate
09:48which damage is going to produce the response of the Iranian army. And of course, the diplomacy
10:03will play as well an important, an important place because of course, United States will lose much more
10:13support when they will see that in geopolitical situation, the interests of Europe will be
10:23affected, the interests of Africa will be affected, and the interests as well of Russia and China will be affected
10:33as well.
10:35The monster is desesperated, the monster is in this case United States.
10:42What's going to happen with that? This is something we have to see on the next days.
10:48President Donald Trump is justifying these actions to, and according to him, to protect the United
10:54States from the Iranian threat, but US intelligences themselves have reported that Iran doesn't impose
11:01a threat to the United States. It is on the other side of the world. Do you think that the
11:05real reason
11:06behind the attack is, as you were saying, the current situation that the United States is experiencing
11:11of all the different crises that is happening within the United States, and this is just a way to divert
11:16attention
11:18by attacking a sovereign nation as Iran? And also, what will be the human rights implication this will have?
11:25As you said at the beginning, I believe that this all is taking place in the context of the Human
11:29Rights Council,
11:30where this is going to need to be denounced, and we'll see that the international community,
11:35if they are able to do anything about it. Although, so far, the international community has proven to be
11:40unable to solve any kind of crisis, and we have seen that with Gaza. Now, after two and something years,
11:49the situation has not been resolved. It continues to deteriorate. So, how do you see this playing out?
11:56So, we have every time to understand that when the United States mention they're going to make an attack,
12:03and they mention this is on the behalf of a god or on the behalf of the protection of the
12:11United States.
12:11This is the speech used by Washington to legalize the attacks they're going to make on the behalf of the
12:22financial interests of the U.S. corporation. This is one of the things we have to understand. Second,
12:29what we can hope from the Human Rights Council, I think that not so much, not so much because
12:38some weeks ago we had a special session about Iran, and the position of the OCHR was a position used
12:49to be present frequently by the globalist system and the globalist section. When I talk about the globalists,
12:56I would mention Rockefeller, Rothschild, George Soros and Open Society. This is the actual position
13:06took by the OCHR. And of course, we have the Human Rights Council, who has 47 members, but when
13:16happened at the special evaluation of Iran three or four weeks ago, we see the level of the
13:24politization of the Human Rights Council. Never we talked about the violation of the sovereignty of Iran. Never we talked
13:33about the autonomy
13:35autonomy and the self-determination, right under Article 2.4 of the UN Charter. They talked only about the
13:48political and civil rights who are
13:52frequently violated by the United States, and we see what happened actually with the manifestation in
13:59Minnesota and other cities in the United States. Here, they hide this problem of the United States, and they use
14:09that against Iran. And I hope for the credibility of the OCHR, for the credibility of the United Nations, that
14:21a position, a very hard position, will be taking in that.
14:26And not only by the OCHR, not only by the Human Rights Council, but overall by the Security Council, because
14:36this is the international organism who can take strong decisions. But again, the United States is a member of this
14:49Security Council. They can put a veto. And in the middle of that,
14:54we have to understand that what it's playing right now is the task and the power of these corporations, U
15:05.S. corporations, Sionist corporations around the world, as well inside of the international organizations,
15:13who actually don't accept that the world is multilateral, that Iran, China, Russia, South Africa, Brazil, and many other
15:23countries play right now an important play in a new view of the world.
15:33And for this reason, countries like the United States, countries like the European Union, take positions, made attacks against all
15:46of these countries, because they don't accept that the world right now is multipolar.
15:50And, of course, we see here a violation of the international law, a very big risk for the human rights,
16:00because here the people who are bombed right now in Iran, as well, like it was the case in Venezuela,
16:10are in general the civilian people.
16:12It's not – if you see right now the news or the actualization about the Iranian attacks, they attack only
16:20military objectives in opposite to the Western countries, because actually they don't care about what's going to happen with the
16:29civilian.
16:29They are only interested to defend the power against two big monsters and bad dreams of the United States, who
16:39has two names, China and Russia.
16:42What is the humanitarian impact right now for the Iranian people?
16:46We saw this unprovoked attack without any warning of the Israeli regime and the United States against Iran on the
16:54excuse of the Israeli part that it's a preventive strike.
16:57But as we know, according to the laws, the international law, a preventive strike is only allowed if there is
17:04a real threat, an imminent threat of aggression, which does not exist in this case.
17:09As throughout the years, Iran has been very clear on its policy, on its diplomacy, that it would never be
17:16the one that attacks, but it would be certain the one that defends and will have the last war.
17:20So what will be the impact right now, the humanitarian impact for the people of Iran and also for the
17:25regions?
17:25Because as we have been discussing, this conflict will not stay in Iran.
17:29It will have road repercussions in the area as allies of Iran will also join in and defend the Iranian
17:38sovereignty.
17:38We have already seen the Islamic Jihad movement in Palestine make a statement.
17:45We have seen the Ansar Allah movement of Yemen also make a statement and announce that they will continue, they
17:49will resume their strikes against Israeli targets.
17:52So what is the consequence of all this?
17:56So, as you mentioned, the preventive attack is forbidden by the UN Charter.
18:05Normally, this is the Security Council with unanimity, who has to give the opportunity or the possibilities to make an
18:15attack.
18:15The other way you can use an attack against another country is in the legitimate defense.
18:21This is written under Article 51 of the UN Charter.
18:25But here it's not the case.
18:27Here we have a very strong and worried violation against the international law.
18:36And because the international law is affected and the human rights are part of the international law, of course, the
18:44human rights will be affected.
18:48Who will they be affected?
18:50If you see this morning, the attacks were against schools, civil centers, where you're going to have children, old people,
19:01women, pregnant women, etc., who has, in general, nothing to play in a war.
19:08The war was not announced.
19:11We have not an announcement from the United States that a war or an attack is going to happen.
19:18So it means that we have, as well, a violation against the international humanitarian law.
19:25And, of course, we are here in the law of the power and not the power of the law, as
19:34normally has to be.
19:36The convention of Vienna is totally violated.
19:42The United Nations has the hands attached because it's, as well, under hands and control of the globalists.
19:53And, of course, we have the credibility deteriorated, losing by the people who, right now, are, as well, taking, by
20:14the control of the digital power, the events, like the events of this morning, as a normal effect.
20:22The people, unfortunately, normalised the genocide happening in Gaza.
20:30They normalised the attack against Venezuela.
20:35They normalised the attack against Iran this morning.
20:39And what we hope right now is that this normalisation of this human rights violation, of this international law violation,
20:48will be break.
20:51Because if we're going to wait that the reality of this violation affect the total of the world overall, the
21:03people who live in the Western country, the world will be destroyed in a 50 or 60 or 70 percent.
21:09And maybe it will be very late.
21:11So I hope that for the health of the international law, for the health of the human rights, for the
21:19health of the civilisation, we hope that a stop will be put against this desperation and violation and aggressive behaviour
21:35of the United States and Israel.
21:36And that, actually, with all the defects it can excise, the stability of the UN Charter and the international law
21:47will come.
21:48Because if it's not come, the situation will become very bad and we will assist in a third world war,
21:56and a really third world war, not like the second and first war, who happened only in Europe.
22:03Right now, if the situation continues, like today, the war will be everywhere around the world and the height about
22:13each bomb or each attack will be very hard.
22:18Thank you very much, David, for your input in this special broadcast as we continue to give follow up to
22:23the situation that is unfolding in Iran.
22:25But thank you for being with us in this moment.
22:28Thank you. Thank you very much.
22:30And if in any moment we have more information from the Human Rights Council and what's going to happen on
22:37this week, I will be every time available to make the analysis and comment what's going to happen on the
22:45next days in the HCR and the OHCHR in Geneva.
22:50Thank you. Thank you, David, for that. Let's now continue on topic on what is happening in Iran.
22:56Currently, as we have been reporting for the past couple of hours, for the past four hours and so, as
23:03we continue to inform on the Israeli-US flagrant aggression against the Iranian people,
23:10against the Persian nation and the Islamic Republic of Iran,
23:14of Iran.
23:16Afghan and reports of strikes hidden of explosions occurring both in Tehran and in many different cities across the Persian
23:25nation, targeting not only military structures,
23:27but we also have reports of civilian structures that have been targeted, government buildings that have been targeted.
23:32We've also had the confirmed report of five people killed in a strike against an elementary school in Iran, an
23:41Israeli missile strike that hit an elementary school, killing five people in that strike.
23:46We still, we don't have so far the total number as the situation continues to unfold.
23:51We must repeat that the aggression is ongoing. There is an ongoing exchange of fire between Israeli-US forces, air
23:59forces against Iran, as well as the Iranian response.
24:03As well as the Iranian response is ongoing. The Iranian response is ongoing.
24:10Iran has responded with strength, with strong, with conviction and determination, hitting several different targets, not only in Israel and
24:20the occupied territories,
24:21but also across different US military bases that the US has deployed in the region.
24:27We have confirmation of strikes in over five countries, in the United Arab Emirates, in Saudi Arabia, in Qatar, in
24:34Kuwait, in Jordan, in Bahrain.
24:35In all these nations, US military strikes, US military bases have been hit as part of the Iranian response.
24:45We also got confirmation that the US military base in Iraq was also hit by the Iranian response,
24:51which has already been named through promise for the Iranian operations of its legitimate defense in the face of the
25:01Israeli-US aggression
25:03against the Iranian people.
25:10We are now once again joining...
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