[FULL] Menkeu Purbaya Pimpin Sidang Debottlenecking: Soroti Megaproyek LNG Blok Masela

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JAKARTA, KOMPAS.TV - Menteri Keuangan (Menkeu) Purbaya Yudhi Sadewa menggelar Sidang Debottlenecking pada Selasa (24/2/2026).    Sidang tersebut membahas hambatan Proyek Strategis Nasional (PSN) onshore gas alam cair atau Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) di Lapangan Abadi Blok Masela.    "Bisa nggak dicari skema yang bagus sehingga industri dalam negeri bisa menikmati dengan harga yang lebih kompetitif. Itu yang bisa dipikirkan sekarang kan nanti, ya," ujar Purbaya.    Baca Juga Menkeu Purbaya ke Kepala SKK Migas Bahas Relaksasi TKDN: Lu Pintar-Pintar Dikit, Masa Ditipu China! di https://www.kompas.tv/nasional/652944/menkeu-purbaya-ke-kepala-skk-migas-bahas-relaksasi-tkdn-lu-pintar-pintar-dikit-masa-ditipu-china         Artikel ini bisa dilihat di :  https://www.kompas.tv/nasional/653120/full-menkeu-purbaya-pimpin-sidang-debottlenecking-soroti-megaproyek-lng-blok-masela

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00:00:00...sukund these into our organization.

00:00:02So, it's a joint effort,

00:00:03the Abadi Project.

00:00:05It's not just IMPECS, it's the joint

00:00:08effort of our partners, which are very

00:00:10important to us. It's also...

00:00:12How many employees that you have hired?

00:00:14We have over 350

00:00:16employees.

00:00:17Are they in your office, in Jakarta office right now?

00:00:19They're in Jakarta office, they're in Sumlaki,

00:00:22also outside.

00:00:23They're also in international offices,

00:00:26so we also have some offices overseas

00:00:28where some of the feed work

00:00:30is being performed by the feed contractors.

00:00:32So, for example,

00:00:34we have offices in Kuala Lumpur,

00:00:36we have offices in

00:00:38Yokohama, Japan,

00:00:40we have offices in Milan,

00:00:41with some people based in Milan.

00:00:43Is that office of...

00:00:46in Jakarta,

00:00:48for example, it impacts Japan

00:00:49and in Malaysia,

00:00:52impacts Malaysia or...

00:00:54Which one is it?

00:00:56It's in Pax...

00:00:57It's impacts...

00:00:58In Pax...

00:00:59Yes.

00:00:59Yes, impacts.

00:01:01So these are all representing impacts

00:01:03from Jakarta,

00:01:04from the impacts Abadi project.

00:01:11Yes, okay.

00:01:12Thank you.

00:01:12If I may,

00:01:13I'd just like to have a small introduction

00:01:16to the project.

00:01:17I'm sure you're very familiar

00:01:18with the project,

00:01:19but we have presented some slides here.

00:01:22And just to give you a quick overview

00:01:23of the project itself.

00:01:25As we know,

00:01:27the Masala block

00:01:27is in eastern Indonesia.

00:01:29So it's not lost on us

00:01:31the fact that we're not just developing

00:01:32an LNG project,

00:01:34we're developing a region

00:01:35for Indonesia.

00:01:37This is important,

00:01:38and we understand this fact.

00:01:39It is in some deep water.

00:01:42It's in about 800 metres.

00:01:44It does actually progress through...

00:01:48Sorry, we've lost the slides,

00:01:49but I'll continue to talk anyway.

00:01:51But it is in deep water,

00:01:53so about 800 metre water depths.

00:01:55It is in a very remote region of Indonesia,

00:01:58which doesn't have a lot of infrastructure.

00:02:01And this can be quite challenging,

00:02:03especially when we think about

00:02:04the construction activities

00:02:05which need to be taking place,

00:02:07which are very challenging

00:02:08in this part of the world,

00:02:10given that there's no infrastructure.

00:02:12But we're looking in the order of

00:02:14in excess of $20 billion

00:02:16of capital expenditure.

00:02:20We think it's likely to...

00:02:23Given the pressures,

00:02:25the global pressures

00:02:26and inflationary pressures,

00:02:27we think the $20 billion

00:02:29might actually increase

00:02:31by the time

00:02:31that the actual bids have arrived.

00:02:33So that is a concern

00:02:35for us at the moment,

00:02:36is that the total investment

00:02:37may actually exceed

00:02:39the $20 billion,

00:02:41and that may impact

00:02:42the project's economics

00:02:44and viability.

00:02:45So that's a major concern

00:02:47for us at the moment.

00:02:48But also, just to mention

00:02:50the participating interests there,

00:02:51as I mentioned,

00:02:52we have IMPEX Masala,

00:02:54we have Potamina

00:02:55and Petronas there

00:02:56as our partners.

00:02:57We're looking at

00:02:58at a production capacity

00:02:59of around 9.5 million tonnes per annum.

00:03:02We have some domestic gas

00:03:04offtake of 150,000 million scuffs of gas,

00:03:08plus we have 35,000 barrels

00:03:10of condensate produced per day.

00:03:13So it's important to note

00:03:14that we're not just producing LNG,

00:03:16but we're producing condensate.

00:03:20And also, as you'll be no doubt aware,

00:03:22it's also been listed

00:03:24as a national strategic project

00:03:25back in 2017.

00:03:28We may move on

00:03:29to the next slide.

00:03:31This is just a quick development overview.

00:03:35I won't bore you

00:03:36with the details,

00:03:37but what it involves

00:03:38is 11 subsea wells,

00:03:41which are connected

00:03:42to an FPSO,

00:03:44which is a floating platform

00:03:45which helps to clean the gas

00:03:47and compress the gas

00:03:49before we send it

00:03:50to a land-based LNG plant.

00:03:53So we send it

00:03:54through a 180-kilometre pipeline

00:03:57to an area

00:03:58on Yamdina Island,

00:04:00near the town of Sumlaki,

00:04:02which is the basis

00:04:03of our LNG plant.

00:04:04And there,

00:04:05we will produce the LNG.

00:04:07What will also happen

00:04:08is we'll take out

00:04:09the CO2

00:04:11and we'll also then

00:04:13send it back offshore

00:04:14for re-injection.

00:04:15So it's important to note

00:04:17that as we're developing

00:04:18this resource,

00:04:20we're looking to develop

00:04:21clean LNG.

00:04:23And this is quite important

00:04:24for the markets,

00:04:25especially the international markets,

00:04:27that are demanding

00:04:28not just LNG now,

00:04:29they're demanding

00:04:30clean LNG.

00:04:32So this is why

00:04:32we've added CCS

00:04:34to the project.

00:04:36Also,

00:04:36I wanted to mention

00:04:37that the scale

00:04:39of this project

00:04:39is significantly larger

00:04:42than anything

00:04:43you've seen before

00:04:44in Indonesia.

00:04:45It's in the order

00:04:46of probably

00:04:47about double the size

00:04:48of any project

00:04:49you have here

00:04:49at the moment.

00:04:50This is a world-scale project.

00:04:53We're in the top

00:04:54three to four projects

00:04:56globally

00:04:56when we talk about it.

00:04:58So one of our challenges

00:05:00is not just domestic,

00:05:02it's international.

00:05:04Because the companies

00:05:05that we need

00:05:06to build this development,

00:05:09the contractors,

00:05:10the suppliers

00:05:11are all international,

00:05:13mainly international

00:05:14contractors and suppliers.

00:05:16And they're in

00:05:17very high demand

00:05:18at the moment

00:05:19because as you can appreciate,

00:05:20the LNG market

00:05:21is in large demand,

00:05:23particularly in the United States

00:05:25and particularly

00:05:26in the Middle East.

00:05:28But what it means for us

00:05:30is that we are competing

00:05:31against the United States.

00:05:33We are competing

00:05:34against the Middle East.

00:05:36this is the challenge

00:05:37that we have.

00:05:38To develop this project,

00:05:40a project this size,

00:05:41we are competing

00:05:42against the world.

00:05:44So this is where

00:05:45I need the support

00:05:46from the government

00:05:46to understand

00:05:47this is an international project.

00:05:50We are fighting

00:05:51against the international

00:05:54competition here.

00:05:55So it's important

00:05:57that when we start

00:05:58to talk about

00:05:58how the government

00:05:59can help to support

00:06:00the project,

00:06:01we have some ideas

00:06:02that I'd like to share

00:06:04with you around

00:06:04how I think

00:06:06we can talk about

00:06:08making things easier

00:06:09to execute,

00:06:11like regulations,

00:06:12for example,

00:06:13how we can look

00:06:14to streamline regulations

00:06:16and even make

00:06:17the regulations

00:06:18a bit more easier

00:06:19so that the contractors

00:06:20can come in

00:06:21and build this faster

00:06:22and cheaper.

00:06:23That's what we would

00:06:24like to achieve.

00:06:25That's important

00:06:26for FAD.

00:06:28I understand that.

00:06:30We want also

00:06:32to ensure

00:06:32that this project

00:06:33can be implemented

00:06:34in a timely manner

00:06:37and as cheap

00:06:38as possible.

00:06:39Yes.

00:06:40If you have something

00:06:41that obstructs

00:06:42your business

00:06:43or you deem

00:06:46increase

00:06:47the cost of production,

00:06:48just let us know.

00:06:50We will change

00:06:52everything

00:06:53accordingly

00:06:53to ensure

00:06:54that your product

00:06:55is competitive

00:06:56in the global market.

00:06:58Before that,

00:06:59I want to ask you

00:07:00about

00:07:02the product allocation.

00:07:05How much

00:07:06of the product

00:07:06will be allocated

00:07:07to domestic market?

00:07:10Thank you.

00:07:15Thank you.

00:07:27Sorry,

00:07:28just to respond.

00:07:29It's still not

00:07:30decided

00:07:31the split

00:07:31between the domestic

00:07:32to the international market.

00:07:34We are here

00:07:35to obviously

00:07:36maximise

00:07:37the domestic market

00:07:38but what we need

00:07:40for the financing,

00:07:41the project financing

00:07:42is global

00:07:43international buyers.

00:07:45So we must

00:07:46achieve

00:07:46a fair balance

00:07:47between the international

00:07:48buyers

00:07:50and the domestic

00:07:51buyers.

00:07:52Under the current

00:07:54global

00:07:55oil and gas

00:07:57condition

00:07:58and

00:07:58supply

00:08:00and

00:08:00cost

00:08:01condition,

00:08:05in terms of

00:08:06pricing,

00:08:07roughly,

00:08:09what is your position

00:08:10compared to

00:08:12global supply

00:08:13market

00:08:14in the current

00:08:15condition

00:08:16with your

00:08:17current

00:08:18design?

00:08:23In terms of

00:08:24gas price,

00:08:25you mean?

00:08:26Do you think

00:08:26that we can compare

00:08:27to the global market?

00:08:28Price is okay?

00:08:29The price is okay.

00:08:31So we've done

00:08:31initial,

00:08:34we have done

00:08:35some early

00:08:36market engagement

00:08:36with the gas

00:08:37buyers

00:08:37and the price

00:08:39indications

00:08:39is looking okay

00:08:41but it is still

00:08:43early for us

00:08:43so we're still

00:08:44to progress

00:08:45through the

00:08:45heads of

00:08:45agreement

00:08:47with the

00:08:48gas buyers

00:08:48themselves

00:08:49and this

00:08:49will dictate

00:08:50the true

00:08:51cost of

00:08:52the cargos

00:08:53that we'll be

00:08:54looking to

00:08:54sell overseas.

00:08:58Can you name

00:08:59the price,

00:09:02the value?

00:09:04Like

00:09:04$12 for

00:09:06MMBT

00:09:06or

00:09:08under the

00:09:09current condition?

00:09:09It's still

00:09:10difficult for us

00:09:11to say

00:09:11at this stage.

00:09:15but not

00:09:16$12.

00:09:19What would be

00:09:20the visible

00:09:20market price

00:09:22for you

00:09:22to operate

00:09:23this facility

00:09:25profitably?

00:09:25It's difficult

00:09:26for us to

00:09:27estimate at the

00:09:28moment

00:09:28because we don't

00:09:29have the true

00:09:29cost of

00:09:31constructing the

00:09:32facilities.

00:09:33We don't have

00:09:34the rough figure

00:09:35of true cost

00:09:36of the construction?

00:09:37We have a rough

00:09:38figure, which is

00:09:39that $20 billion

00:09:40that I indicated

00:09:40earlier, but

00:09:42that was based

00:09:42on some work

00:09:43that we had

00:09:44produced back

00:09:44in 2018.

00:09:47It's a little

00:09:48bit difficult

00:09:48to say the

00:09:49number.

00:09:50In front of

00:09:51all the people

00:09:52now, maybe

00:09:53we have

00:09:53some small

00:09:54meetings.

00:09:55I just want

00:09:56to know

00:09:56whether this

00:09:56project is

00:09:57competitive

00:09:57or not.

00:09:59It's marginal.

00:10:00It's marginal.

00:10:01It's marginal.

00:10:02It's marginal

00:10:03internationally.

00:10:04This is our

00:10:05greatest concern

00:10:06and our

00:10:06greatest risk

00:10:06on this

00:10:07project.

00:10:08Well, with the

00:10:09size of this

00:10:09big project,

00:10:11you would like

00:10:12perhaps, even

00:10:14though it's

00:10:14marginal, some

00:10:16competitive edge

00:10:17compared to the

00:10:18global market.

00:10:19This is such a

00:10:20big project.

00:10:20Correct.

00:10:22So roughly

00:10:23whatever market

00:10:24price is,

00:10:25whatever the

00:10:25market price

00:10:26for the cost

00:10:27of production

00:10:28is, it should

00:10:28be a little

00:10:29bit more

00:10:29compared to

00:10:30Yes.

00:10:31So my

00:10:32question is,

00:10:33is this

00:10:34project really

00:10:37feasible or

00:10:38not in your

00:10:40current calculation?

00:10:42We think it's

00:10:43marginal.

00:10:45Very marginal

00:10:46is my answer.

00:10:48Sorry, I can't

00:10:49give you a direct

00:10:50answer.

00:10:50We don't have

00:10:51direct numbers

00:10:52at the moment.

00:10:52I assume it

00:10:53will be profitable.

00:10:54Yes.

00:10:55We will remove

00:10:56all of the

00:10:56obstacles that

00:10:57you are facing

00:10:58in implementing

00:10:59this project.

00:11:00Please continue.

00:11:01Okay.

00:11:01Thank you.

00:11:03Next slide,

00:11:04please.

00:11:05Probably move

00:11:06through this slide

00:11:06quite quick.

00:11:07This is more

00:11:08about the actual

00:11:09stage of the

00:11:09project itself.

00:11:11Just to point

00:11:12out in the

00:11:12middle of the

00:11:13slide there,

00:11:13we're in

00:11:14what's called

00:11:14the feed

00:11:15phase, which

00:11:15is the

00:11:16front-end

00:11:16engineering

00:11:16phase, and

00:11:18that will be

00:11:19followed by

00:11:19the EPC

00:11:20tendering phase.

00:11:21It will be

00:11:22the EPC

00:11:23tendering phase

00:11:24which will

00:11:24dictate to

00:11:25us the

00:11:26true cost

00:11:27of the

00:11:28development.

00:11:29And that's

00:11:30why at the

00:11:30moment we

00:11:31remain uncertain

00:11:32as to what

00:11:33the true cost

00:11:34will be.

00:11:34You mean

00:11:35number two?

00:11:36Number three.

00:11:37Number three.

00:11:38Number two

00:11:39is where we

00:11:39are today.

00:11:40number three

00:11:41is where

00:11:42we'll start

00:11:42to move

00:11:43to very

00:11:43shortly.

00:11:45And then

00:11:46number four

00:11:46is our

00:11:47investment

00:11:47decision,

00:11:48which is

00:11:48the FID.

00:11:51And that's

00:11:52where we

00:11:52might also

00:11:53need some

00:11:53help from

00:11:53government

00:11:54there as

00:11:54to the

00:11:55terms of

00:11:55what we've

00:11:56achieved at

00:11:57FID to

00:11:58help the

00:11:59project move

00:11:59forward.

00:12:01After that,

00:12:02we then move

00:12:03into the

00:12:03construction

00:12:04phase, which

00:12:04is stage

00:12:05five, which

00:12:06is the

00:12:06EPCI.

00:12:10When is

00:12:11the soonest

00:12:12that we

00:12:13can lead to

00:12:14number five,

00:12:14do you think?

00:12:16To start

00:12:17number five

00:12:17or finish

00:12:18number five?

00:12:19Start

00:12:19number five.

00:12:20Start

00:12:21number five,

00:12:21I think,

00:12:23next year.

00:12:26Next year?

00:12:27Yes.

00:12:28Okay.

00:12:30So now

00:12:30it's in

00:12:31feed stage?

00:12:32Yes.

00:12:32And how

00:12:33long will it

00:12:34take to

00:12:34finish the

00:12:34feed stage?

00:12:35The feed

00:12:35will be

00:12:36finished this

00:12:36year.

00:12:37This year?

00:12:37And will

00:12:38be followed

00:12:38by the

00:12:39tendering

00:12:39phase, which

00:12:41will take

00:12:41us into

00:12:42slightly next

00:12:43year.

00:12:45Okay.

00:12:45Continue.

00:12:47Okay.

00:12:47Move on to

00:12:48the next

00:12:48slide, if

00:12:48I may,

00:12:49please.

00:12:54Next

00:12:54slide.

00:13:00please.

00:13:03Yes.

00:13:04This is

00:13:05just a

00:13:05summary of

00:13:06some of

00:13:06the activities

00:13:07that we've

00:13:07been undertaking

00:13:08since we

00:13:09have resumed

00:13:11the project.

00:13:12We've

00:13:13undertaken a

00:13:13lot of

00:13:14survey work,

00:13:15so this is

00:13:15important for

00:13:16the feed

00:13:16activities.

00:13:17This is

00:13:18approximately

00:13:18$100 million

00:13:19worth of

00:13:19activities that's

00:13:20already been

00:13:21executed, so

00:13:21this work is

00:13:22now complete

00:13:23and has

00:13:24involved a

00:13:24large number

00:13:25of people

00:13:25both in

00:13:26Sumlaki as

00:13:27well as

00:13:27offshore.

00:13:28executing the

00:13:29survey work.

00:13:30The second

00:13:31point there is

00:13:32the front-end

00:13:33engineering, the

00:13:34feed.

00:13:34This is the

00:13:35piece, as I

00:13:36mentioned, we're

00:13:37already starting

00:13:37to progress.

00:13:38We're actually

00:13:39well progressed

00:13:40through this

00:13:40feed already.

00:13:41We're about

00:13:4120% through

00:13:43the feed.

00:13:45The site

00:13:46activities, we're

00:13:48also planning to

00:13:49start some

00:13:49construction

00:13:50activities at

00:13:51site imminently.

00:13:53In fact, we

00:13:53have a perimeter

00:13:54construction works

00:13:55contract that

00:13:57we're planning to

00:13:58award today, and

00:14:00we would like to

00:14:00start the work as

00:14:01soon as possible

00:14:02once all

00:14:02approvals are

00:14:03obtained and

00:14:04we're clear to

00:14:05start the work.

00:14:06We're also

00:14:07preparing the

00:14:08EPCIs, which

00:14:09are the tender

00:14:10packages, which, as

00:14:12I mentioned

00:14:12earlier, are

00:14:13needed to get the

00:14:14firm pricing from

00:14:15the market.

00:14:16In terms of the

00:14:17land acquisition,

00:14:18the non-forestry

00:14:19area, which is

00:14:19part of Neustral

00:14:20Island, which is

00:14:21adjacent to our

00:14:22site, that was

00:14:24already obtained

00:14:25back in 2024.

00:14:27The forestry

00:14:28area, good

00:14:29news that we've

00:14:30had that also

00:14:31granted to us

00:14:32earlier this

00:14:33year.

00:14:34So that's some

00:14:34good news, and

00:14:35I'd like to thank

00:14:35everybody that was

00:14:36involved in that

00:14:37process for helping

00:14:38to obtain that.

00:14:40Also, good news

00:14:41that we've had

00:14:41very recently, we've

00:14:43achieved the

00:14:43MDEL, which is

00:14:44the environmental

00:14:45approval, which

00:14:46enables us also to

00:14:47now start the

00:14:48work.

00:14:49So most of the

00:14:50major approvals are

00:14:51now in place.

00:14:52We still have some

00:14:53small approvals that

00:14:54remain outstanding

00:14:55before we can start

00:14:56some construction

00:14:57activities, and

00:14:58there's a number of

00:14:59obligations that we

00:15:00still need to

00:15:01complete with the

00:15:01forestry area

00:15:02release.

00:15:05The gas

00:15:06marketing, as I

00:15:07mentioned earlier,

00:15:08we've been down to

00:15:09the market themselves,

00:15:10both domestic and

00:15:11international gas

00:15:12markets.

00:15:13We've identified

00:15:14potential buyers, and

00:15:16we are now in

00:15:16negotiation with them

00:15:18for heads of

00:15:19agreements.

00:15:20The plan is to

00:15:21get letters of

00:15:22intent in place for

00:15:26FID, and firm

00:15:27commitments in place

00:15:28before FID, and

00:15:30then commercially as

00:15:31well.

00:15:31Some of the project

00:15:32is also funded from

00:15:35trustee borrowing

00:15:36schemes, and that

00:15:37will also be in

00:15:38progress in parallel

00:15:40with the project.

00:15:41For the gas

00:15:41marketing, what is

00:15:44the response from

00:15:45domestic potential

00:15:48buyers?

00:15:51They are very

00:15:53positive to buy our

00:15:54LNG.

00:15:56You mean the

00:15:57domestic market?

00:15:58Yes.

00:15:59They want to, they're

00:16:00keen to buy.

00:16:02Then we want to

00:16:03continue the

00:16:04discussion.

00:16:05Soon we will have

00:16:06something, we receive

00:16:08something, indication

00:16:09from the price or

00:16:10commercial condition,

00:16:12maybe mid of this

00:16:14year, maybe.

00:16:17Domestic companies

00:16:18one by one, or

00:16:21consortium?

00:16:23One by one.

00:16:25How many companies

00:16:26did you meet?

00:16:29How many companies

00:16:30have you

00:16:31met?

00:16:31Domestic women.

00:16:33Maybe now we are

00:16:34talking with PGM, PLN,

00:16:37or PPP

00:16:38Indonesia.

00:16:42Okay, thank you.

00:16:55If I may, I'll

00:16:56continue.

00:16:57Next slide, please.

00:17:00Let me double-check

00:17:01the environment

00:17:04analysis.

00:17:04Albi sini dari

00:17:05Departemen

00:17:07Dengan

00:17:07Gidupi.

00:17:09Bagaimana ceritanya?

00:17:10Silahkan.

00:17:11Untuk proses

00:17:12semua sudah selesai

00:17:14tanggal 13

00:17:15Februari dan sudah

00:17:16diserahkan langsung

00:17:17ke Pak Kenji

00:17:18tanggal 20

00:17:19Februari kemarin, Pak.

00:17:21Sudah?

00:17:23Tidak ada, Pak.

00:17:25Thank you.

00:17:29Line acquisitions

00:17:30bagaimana?

00:17:31Ya, concerning the

00:17:33line acquisitions,

00:17:34how many percent

00:17:34that still not

00:17:35been released?

00:17:36You have the

00:17:37obligations to the

00:17:38people.

00:17:38Dari penutanan, ya, Pak?

00:17:40It has not been released.

00:17:47Jadi, ini terkait

00:17:48dengan forestry

00:17:49land, Pak, ya.

00:17:51Area

00:17:51hutan.

00:17:52Jadi, sebenarnya

00:17:53kewajiban kita

00:17:54disana lebih terkait

00:17:55dengan settlement

00:17:56pihak ketiga.

00:17:57Jadi, bukan

00:17:58dalam konteks

00:17:59acquisition,

00:18:00tapi bagaimana

00:18:01kita memberikan

00:18:01kompensasi

00:18:02tanam tumbuh.

00:18:05Ini timnya

00:18:06akan dibentuk

00:18:08oleh surat

00:18:09keputusan dari

00:18:09Pak Gubernur

00:18:10Maluku.

00:18:11Itu sudah kita ajukan

00:18:12permintaan

00:18:13pembentukan tim.

00:18:14Kita masih menunggu

00:18:15penunjukan

00:18:16dari Pak Gubernur.

00:18:18Begitu tim terbentuk,

00:18:19tim akan melakukan

00:18:20survei ke lapangan

00:18:21dan kemudian

00:18:22sampai menghitung

00:18:23appraise

00:18:23nilai yang harus

00:18:24dikompensasikan.

00:18:26Ini kan

00:18:27proses tracking

00:18:27udah lama, kan, Pak?

00:18:29Kenapa

00:18:29baru mulai sekarang?

00:18:30Sebelumnya ada

00:18:31halangan apa

00:18:32atau proses apa

00:18:32yang ditunggu

00:18:33sampai baru

00:18:34mulai

00:18:35membentuk

00:18:35tim itu?

00:18:38Secara proses

00:18:39tim itu

00:18:40yang terbentuk

00:18:40setelah

00:18:41pelepasan hutan?

00:18:44Sekarang udah?

00:18:47Dari kehutanan, silahkan.

00:18:49Itu kelepasan

00:18:49tanahnya gimana?

00:18:50Bapak Clear.

00:18:51Baik, terima kasih

00:18:52izin Pak Menteri

00:18:53dan rakyat sekalian.

00:18:54Dari kehutanan

00:18:55prosesnya

00:18:55sudah keluar

00:18:56setujuan

00:18:57pelepasan

00:18:58itu tanggal

00:18:597 Januari

00:19:012026.

00:19:02Memang betul

00:19:03yang disampaikan Bapak

00:19:04bahwa

00:19:05dalam rangka

00:19:06penyediaan tanah itu

00:19:08perlu ada

00:19:10pembebasan

00:19:10karena disitu

00:19:12di kawasan hutannya

00:19:13ada masyarakat

00:19:14dan pelepasannya

00:19:15mulai berproses

00:19:16akhir 2024

00:19:18bulan November

00:19:19sekitar

00:19:20satu tahun

00:19:21karena ada

00:19:22kendala di

00:19:23terminologi

00:19:24yang belum sesuai.

00:19:26Alhamdulillah

00:19:27sudah selesai

00:19:27di Januari

00:19:29tanggal 7

00:19:302026

00:19:31Pak Menteri.

00:19:32Jadi dengan ini

00:19:33mereka bisa mulai ya?

00:19:34Bisa.

00:19:35Dengan status PSN

00:19:37memang tadi disampaikan

00:19:38masih ada

00:19:39yang harus dilaksanakan Pak.

00:19:40Tata batas

00:19:41izin lingkungan

00:19:42tetapi

00:19:43dari kehutanan

00:19:44karena statusnya

00:19:45PSN

00:19:46sudah boleh melakukan

00:19:47kegiatan

00:19:48bersamaan dengan

00:19:49penataan batas.

00:19:51Terima kasih.

00:19:55Oke, thank you.

00:20:01Gini, kita pokoknya

00:20:02mau deteksi

00:20:04masih ada yang ganggu gak?

00:20:05Kalau ada yang ganggu

00:20:06kita percepat

00:20:07supaya gangguannya itu hilang.

00:20:09Jadi make sure

00:20:10Anda betul-betul

00:20:12mengemukakan

00:20:13apa yang ada di lapangan.

00:20:15Kalau enggak,

00:20:15kita gak bisa bantu juga.

00:20:17Please, gantinya.

00:20:18Thank you.

00:20:19The last two slides

00:20:20I have

00:20:20are talking about

00:20:21some of the challenges

00:20:22that we have

00:20:23in front of us.

00:20:24This first slide

00:20:25is more of the

00:20:26short-term challenges

00:20:27and it's more related

00:20:28to community engagement

00:20:32and also some

00:20:33of the remaining

00:20:34approval activities

00:20:36that we need

00:20:36to take place.

00:20:37What is the community

00:20:39acceptance level

00:20:40so far

00:20:41to this project

00:20:43after this

00:20:43forest lease

00:20:45release?

00:20:48Mana kata

00:20:49masyarakat sana?

00:20:49Mereka mendukung

00:20:50apa enggak?

00:20:54Level of akshatan

00:20:55tinggi, Pak.

00:20:56Jadi justru

00:20:57masyarakat

00:20:57sudah menunggu

00:20:58sejak lama

00:20:58proyek ini.

00:21:01Memang yang menjadi

00:21:03perhatian mereka sekarang

00:21:05pertama terkait

00:21:06kompensasi tadi

00:21:08untuk masyarakat

00:21:09yang tadi

00:21:13menggunakan

00:21:13kawasan hutan

00:21:14untuk ini mereka

00:21:15pekerjaan mereka

00:21:16dan yang kedua

00:21:17terkait dengan

00:21:18pekerjaan

00:21:19yang menjadi

00:21:20atensi

00:21:21masyarakat.

00:21:22Anda kan punya

00:21:23strategian

00:21:23pasti untuk

00:21:24kompensasi

00:21:25dan pekerjaan

00:21:25tadi ya?

00:21:26Anda selesaikan sendiri

00:21:27itu ya?

00:21:27Siap.

00:21:28Oke, lanjut.

00:21:31Oke, thank you.

00:21:33What I'd like

00:21:34to summarise

00:21:35is not

00:21:35point by point

00:21:36off this slide

00:21:37here

00:21:37but where we

00:21:38could do

00:21:39with a lot

00:21:39of support

00:21:40is in the

00:21:40coordination

00:21:41of approvals

00:21:42through both

00:21:42central government

00:21:44and local

00:21:44government level.

00:21:45What we do

00:21:46see is there's

00:21:47a large level

00:21:47of complexity

00:21:48with the amount

00:21:49of approvals

00:21:50that we need

00:21:51and the amount

00:21:52of departments

00:21:53and resources

00:21:54that need

00:21:55to be engaged

00:21:56for the approval

00:21:57process itself.

00:21:58So this is an area

00:21:59where we could do

00:22:00with some help

00:22:00please,

00:22:01is to help us

00:22:02coordinate

00:22:02not the approvals

00:22:04just now

00:22:04point one

00:22:06two or three

00:22:06all of them

00:22:07all of the approvals

00:22:09to the project

00:22:09are challenging.

00:22:12This has been

00:22:13a main area

00:22:14of delay

00:22:15to us

00:22:16most recently

00:22:17and has actually

00:22:18prevented us

00:22:19from actually

00:22:19starting the work

00:22:20on site.

00:22:25Explain to me

00:22:26a bit

00:22:26about

00:22:27number two

00:22:28securing

00:22:29marine facilities

00:22:30in this area.

00:22:31This will be

00:22:34subject to another

00:22:35approval process

00:22:36for the marine

00:22:37facilities.

00:22:38The marine

00:22:39facilities are

00:22:40what will be

00:22:41called a pioneering

00:22:43wharf and a jetty

00:22:44location for the

00:22:45facilities themselves

00:22:46but it is not a

00:22:47simple jetty.

00:22:48This is a very

00:22:49large scale

00:22:50wharf

00:22:51and this in

00:22:52itself involves

00:22:54a significant amount

00:22:54of approvals

00:22:55that need to be

00:22:56undertaken

00:22:56but we can only

00:22:57do that once

00:22:58we have completed

00:22:59some of the

00:22:59engineering work

00:23:00which will then

00:23:01be needed to be

00:23:02taken place

00:23:03for the approval

00:23:04process.

00:23:05So that is one

00:23:05approval.

00:23:07The MDEL

00:23:08as I mentioned

00:23:09we have already

00:23:09obtained the

00:23:10MDEL approval

00:23:12but now we need

00:23:13to update it

00:23:14and we need to

00:23:15also include

00:23:16things like the

00:23:17CCS element

00:23:18in the MDEL

00:23:19so this means

00:23:20another level

00:23:22of approval

00:23:22process that we

00:23:23need to work

00:23:23through.

00:23:24Just another

00:23:25MDEL.

00:23:25Yes.

00:23:26Yes.

00:23:27Gimana nih?

00:23:27Ini apa sebetulnya sih?

00:23:34Kalau setelah

00:23:35feed nanti itu?

00:23:38Kalau

00:23:39AMDA

00:23:39yang setelah

00:23:40ini

00:23:42saya

00:23:42tidak yakin

00:23:43apakah

00:23:44belum terlingkup

00:23:45di AMDA

00:23:46sebelumnya

00:23:46kalau yang

00:23:47AMDA

00:23:47yang sudah keluar

00:23:48itu sudah terlingkup

00:23:49sebetulnya

00:23:50tidak ada masalah

00:23:50lagi

00:23:52tapi kalau

00:23:53memang ada

00:23:54belum terlingkup

00:23:55kita siap

00:23:57untuk membantu

00:23:59ya

00:24:00hanya berapa lama

00:24:01hanya berapa lama

00:24:04belum pernah

00:24:05jadi

00:24:06boleh saja

00:24:07berlupa

00:24:08memang ada

00:24:10skop yang belum

00:24:10termasuk

00:24:11dalam

00:24:11AMDA

00:24:12yang di

00:24:12approve kemarin

00:24:13pertama tadi

00:24:14disampaikan

00:24:14CCS

00:24:15itu belum masuk

00:24:15karena kita

00:24:16masih sedang

00:24:17melakukan feednya

00:24:17kemudian

00:24:19juga

00:24:19beberapa

00:24:20lokasi

00:24:20OLNG

00:24:21kan menunggu

00:24:21final dari feed

00:24:23kita

00:24:23itu akan

00:24:23masuk ke dalam

00:24:24anti-amendment

00:24:25di AMDA

00:24:28Anda ekspektasi

00:24:29berapa lama?

00:24:34Tadi feednya

00:24:35akan selesai

00:24:36kapan?

00:24:37Ya

00:24:37Oktober

00:24:37hanya proses

00:24:39andal berapa lama

00:24:40dan Anda

00:24:40ekspekt berapa lama

00:24:41selesai?

00:24:44Dari

00:24:45saya kasih

00:24:51ya sebulan Pak

00:24:53ya sebulan Pak

00:24:53sebulan?

00:24:55Lu yang terlaluan juga

00:24:56lu

00:24:56lu gak punya

00:24:57sebulan

00:24:58di AMDA

00:24:58sebulan

00:24:59normalnya

00:25:00berapa

00:25:01abdel

00:25:02biasa kan

00:25:036 bulan ya

00:25:04kalau ini

00:25:05internal

00:25:05kita schedule

00:25:072-3 bulan Pak

00:25:08Ok nanti

00:25:10kita targetkan

00:25:103 bulan ya

00:25:11begitu jalan

00:25:11nanti kalian kita monitor

00:25:12gimana Mas

00:25:13jadi sebetulnya

00:25:14waktu layanan

00:25:15AMDA kami itu

00:25:1658 hari Pak

00:25:17dan itu

00:25:18sudah terpenuhi

00:25:19jadi yang lama itu

00:25:20malah sebetulnya

00:25:21persiapan yang

00:25:22dokumen-dokumen

00:25:23yang diperlukan

00:25:24kami sudah

00:25:26punya

00:25:27standar layanan

00:25:28jadi

00:25:29Mas

00:25:29dia

00:25:29challenging you

00:25:30he can work

00:25:31as fast as possible

00:25:33it's up to you

00:25:34excellent

00:25:35good

00:25:36we're nearly

00:25:36preparing the

00:25:37the document

00:25:38to satisfy

00:25:39the requirement

00:25:39yes

00:25:40our document

00:25:41is nearly

00:25:41ready to submit

00:25:42so we're

00:25:43just finalizing

00:25:43that now

00:25:44so we're

00:25:44very confident

00:25:45we'll have

00:25:45that available

00:25:46very soon

00:25:52for major challenges

00:25:54of permits

00:25:55or approvals

00:25:56we are going

00:25:58to support you

00:25:59fully

00:25:59we're going to

00:26:01set up a small

00:26:01team here

00:26:02you work with

00:26:03every department

00:26:04that

00:26:05involved in the

00:26:06process

00:26:07if there's

00:26:09if there's

00:26:09any slight delay

00:26:10let us know

00:26:11and our team

00:26:12will jump

00:26:13go directly

00:26:14to the department

00:26:15to ensure

00:26:16that everything

00:26:17moves

00:26:18swiftly

00:26:19thank you very much

00:26:20I don't want

00:26:21I don't want

00:26:23more delay

00:26:23in this project

00:26:25very good

00:26:26thank you very much

00:26:27for your assistance

00:26:27if

00:26:28you

00:26:29are the part

00:26:30who

00:26:30create the delay

00:26:31I will charge you

00:26:32yes

00:26:33please

00:26:34you have my details

00:26:35no

00:26:36there's no charging

00:26:37no

00:26:37we would like

00:26:38to start work

00:26:39as soon as possible

00:26:39we have to make sure

00:26:40that this can be

00:26:41implemented

00:26:42in a swiftly manner

00:26:44and we will

00:26:45set up small meetings

00:26:47as I said before

00:26:50where you can report

00:26:51anytime

00:26:51to this team

00:26:53and we will

00:26:56the chairman

00:26:57of this team

00:26:58will be

00:26:58the bosses

00:27:00okay

00:27:00very good

00:27:01thank you very much

00:27:02everything will be

00:27:03handled

00:27:03will be handled

00:27:05smoothly

00:27:06excellent

00:27:07thank you

00:27:07if they cannot finish

00:27:09they cannot finish

00:27:10I will jump

00:27:11directly

00:27:11to this

00:27:12so don't worry

00:27:14about that

00:27:14okay

00:27:15thank you for your commitment

00:27:16we need cooperation

00:27:17with you

00:27:18to the extent

00:27:19that you're reporting

00:27:20to us

00:27:22every

00:27:22obstacle

00:27:23that we're facing

00:27:24in a timely manner

00:27:26okay

00:27:26understood

00:27:27thank you

00:27:28thank you baby

00:27:31I'd like to move on

00:27:32to my last slide

00:27:33now if I can

00:27:34please

00:27:37and these

00:27:38this is just a quick summary

00:27:39of some of the points

00:27:40that I've discussed

00:27:41and raised already

00:27:42but firstly

00:27:44I wanted to say

00:27:45thank you also

00:27:46to the help

00:27:46and support

00:27:47that we've received

00:27:48from SKK Meegas

00:27:49to date

00:27:49we have made

00:27:50some good progress

00:27:51most recently

00:27:52as I said

00:27:52we have the forestry

00:27:53release

00:27:53and the MDL approval

00:27:54we are making

00:27:55good progress

00:27:56now with the feed

00:27:58point three

00:28:00is the economics

00:28:01and this is

00:28:02our biggest challenge

00:28:03we think

00:28:04is the actual

00:28:05feasibility

00:28:05of the project

00:28:06to pass through

00:28:07FID

00:28:07what we are

00:28:09expecting

00:28:09is bullet point four

00:28:11we are expecting

00:28:13some results

00:28:14in June

00:28:15middle of this year

00:28:16and these results

00:28:17will include

00:28:18some things

00:28:19like some further

00:28:20cost estimates

00:28:20to the project

00:28:21and also

00:28:23some schedules

00:28:25from our contractors

00:28:26themselves

00:28:26so this will be

00:28:27the first indication

00:28:28that we receive

00:28:29from the market

00:28:31of a realistic

00:28:33execution

00:28:34EPC schedule

00:28:35and EPC price

00:28:37so we'd like to

00:28:38start to share

00:28:38this information

00:28:39with you

00:28:40to understand

00:28:40where the economics

00:28:41are trending

00:28:42and ask for your

00:28:44help and consideration

00:28:45as we start

00:28:46to move through that

00:28:46so that's an important

00:28:48milestone

00:28:48that I'd like to highlight

00:28:50is middle of this year

00:28:51we will have

00:28:52some updated

00:28:53cost estimates

00:28:54and schedules

00:28:55to share

00:28:57just discuss

00:28:58with us

00:28:59about this issue

00:28:59later on

00:29:00yes

00:29:02you know

00:29:03our position

00:29:03right

00:29:04we are supporting

00:29:04you

00:29:05thank you

00:29:05thank you very much

00:29:09my next bullet point

00:29:10is point number five

00:29:12as I mentioned

00:29:13this is an

00:29:14international project

00:29:15and what we do

00:29:17understand

00:29:17from our contractors

00:29:19that are involved

00:29:19in the project

00:29:20is that they do

00:29:22see that

00:29:23there is significant

00:29:24risk on this project

00:29:25so we would like

00:29:26to also ask

00:29:27for some help

00:29:29for some exemptions

00:29:30around certain things

00:29:32in the regulations

00:29:34things such as

00:29:35local content

00:29:37things such as

00:29:38use of

00:29:39foreign fabrication

00:29:40yards

00:29:41these types of things

00:29:43what I've explained

00:29:44to you earlier

00:29:45is this project

00:29:46is so large

00:29:47that it means

00:29:48that some of the work

00:29:49needs to go overseas

00:29:51it has to go overseas

00:29:52there's not enough

00:29:53capacity inside

00:29:54Indonesia

00:29:55to execute

00:29:56all this work

00:29:57so I'd like your

00:29:58understanding

00:29:59please to help us

00:30:01to actually obtain

00:30:02some exemptions

00:30:04that can be applied

00:30:05to the Abadi project

00:30:06that we can actually

00:30:07offer to the contractors

00:30:09and I would like to do that

00:30:10I'd like to do that

00:30:12quickly

00:30:12if we can

00:30:14because we will start

00:30:15the EPC tendering

00:30:17phase

00:30:18middle of this year

00:30:19so I'd like to have

00:30:21this information

00:30:21available by middle

00:30:23of this year

00:30:23so that we can offer

00:30:24it to the contractors

00:30:25and this will help

00:30:26to reduce their cost

00:30:28this will help

00:30:29to improve

00:30:30their schedule

00:30:34we understand

00:30:35about our policy

00:30:36about local content

00:30:37but we also

00:30:38understand that

00:30:39if the goods

00:30:41cannot be produced

00:30:41domestically

00:30:44local content

00:30:45should be relaxed

00:30:50accordingly

00:30:51and

00:30:56about the detail

00:30:57of which

00:30:58of which

00:30:58that can

00:30:59get

00:31:00special

00:31:03treatment

00:31:04from

00:31:05our ministry

00:31:06just report to us

00:31:09have a discussion

00:31:10with us

00:31:10I'll chat up with you

00:31:11already

00:31:12the team

00:31:13and talk with them

00:31:14and then they will

00:31:15channel it to our

00:31:16fixation

00:31:18other ministries also

00:31:20thank you

00:31:20don't worry about that

00:31:21so this is one stop

00:31:23you go to this team

00:31:25this team will be

00:31:29delivering

00:31:30all of your problem

00:31:32to other ministries

00:31:33as well as

00:31:34departments

00:31:35in my ministry also

00:31:37excellent

00:31:38thank you very much

00:31:39eh

00:31:39boleh gak

00:31:40begitu boleh

00:31:41this is one stop

00:31:51you come to us

00:31:52we'll finish it

00:31:53for you

00:31:53excellent

00:31:53thank you

00:31:54thank you very much

00:31:54free of charge

00:31:55very good

00:31:56but later on

00:31:56you pay taxes

00:31:57I'm sure

00:32:05okay thank you

00:32:06I've nearly finished

00:32:07the slides

00:32:07we may also

00:32:08require some

00:32:09coordination

00:32:09with your own

00:32:10ministry there

00:32:11and the trustee

00:32:12borrowing scheme

00:32:12which we'd like to

00:32:14discuss with you

00:32:15later

00:32:17second last

00:32:18bullet point

00:32:19there

00:32:19we would also

00:32:20ask as I

00:32:21mentioned

00:32:21some support

00:32:22around the

00:32:22permitting

00:32:23administration

00:32:23that we've

00:32:24already discussed

00:32:25so I think

00:32:25that's the end

00:32:26of the slides

00:32:27one final point

00:32:29if I may

00:32:30I'd like to

00:32:31just stress

00:32:31to both

00:32:32your government

00:32:33and all the

00:32:34participants at

00:32:35this meeting

00:32:36the importance

00:32:36of this project

00:32:37to not only

00:32:38Indonesia

00:32:38but to

00:32:39IMPEX

00:32:39we are 100%

00:32:41committed to

00:32:42this project

00:32:44every quarter

00:32:45Asagawa Sun

00:32:46and myself

00:32:47need to report

00:32:47to our CEO

00:32:48directly

00:32:49as to the

00:32:50status of

00:32:50this project

00:32:51so I want you

00:32:52to be assured

00:32:52that this is

00:32:53the most important

00:32:54project globally

00:32:55for IMPEX

00:32:57has our full

00:32:58attention

00:32:58and we are

00:32:59doing everything

00:33:00possible

00:33:01that we can do

00:33:02to accelerate

00:33:02the project

00:33:03and to improve

00:33:04the economics

00:33:05so that we can

00:33:06take the FID

00:33:07very quickly

00:33:08this is the

00:33:09objective

00:33:09what we are

00:33:11constrained with

00:33:12is as I

00:33:12mentioned

00:33:13the global

00:33:14LNG market

00:33:15the things that

00:33:16we can't

00:33:17influence

00:33:17is the supply

00:33:19chain

00:33:19is the

00:33:20availability

00:33:20of the

00:33:21contractors

00:33:21and this is

00:33:23what we struggle

00:33:23with sometimes

00:33:24is that

00:33:25it's difficult

00:33:25for us

00:33:26to accelerate

00:33:27the schedule

00:33:27which is

00:33:28outside of

00:33:29our control

00:33:30which is

00:33:30dictated

00:33:31by market

00:33:34well

00:33:34if it's not

00:33:35under your

00:33:35control

00:33:37we cannot

00:33:37do anything

00:33:38it will

00:33:39affect everybody

00:33:40also in the

00:33:40market

00:33:41so you don't

00:33:41have to worry

00:33:42about

00:33:42your

00:33:43competitiveness

00:33:44because of

00:33:45that

00:33:45it's market

00:33:45condition

00:33:46but we

00:33:47will try

00:33:49to support

00:33:50you as much

00:33:50as possible

00:33:51and we

00:33:52understand

00:33:53this is a

00:33:53big project

00:33:55we're going

00:33:56to invest

00:33:56initially

00:33:5722 billion

00:33:58dollars

00:33:59and maybe

00:34:00more

00:34:00yes

00:34:01in the future

00:34:03i myself

00:34:04involved

00:34:05with this

00:34:05project

00:34:06i think

00:34:07happened

00:34:07eight years

00:34:08ago

00:34:08i went

00:34:09to japan

00:34:09and discussed

00:34:09with two

00:34:10ceo

00:34:12i thought

00:34:12after that

00:34:13decision

00:34:14in this

00:34:15discussion

00:34:15it

00:34:16has gone

00:34:17smoothly

00:34:18i didn't

00:34:20realize

00:34:20that

00:34:20it's

00:34:20still

00:34:21at

00:34:21this

00:34:21very

00:34:22slow

00:34:23level

00:34:24oh

00:34:26i want

00:34:27to expedite

00:34:27this project

00:34:28i met

00:34:28the ceo

00:34:29impact ceo

00:34:30in japan

00:34:30discussion

00:34:31during

00:34:32our

00:34:32time

00:34:32and we

00:34:34at that

00:34:35time

00:34:35made a

00:34:36decision

00:34:36that

00:34:37this is

00:34:37a goal

00:34:40you've

00:34:40spent a lot

00:34:41of money

00:34:41already

00:34:42right

00:34:42yes

00:34:422 billion

00:34:44that's a lot

00:34:45of money

00:34:45yes

00:34:46don't want

00:34:47to

00:34:47back

00:34:48down

00:34:49right

00:34:49because

00:34:51let's say

00:34:52some

00:34:55you are

00:34:56facing

00:34:56but

00:34:57this time

00:34:58i'm

00:34:59making

00:34:59sure

00:35:00that

00:35:01we will

00:35:02remove

00:35:03all

00:35:03of the

00:35:04obstacles

00:35:05for you

00:35:05and we

00:35:07create

00:35:07this special

00:35:08team

00:35:08one stop

00:35:10one stop

00:35:11place

00:35:12to finish

00:35:13everything

00:35:14for you

00:35:15excellent

00:35:15thank you

00:35:16thank you

00:35:16for your

00:35:16support

00:35:18this is

00:35:19important

00:35:20for us

00:35:20also

00:35:21because

00:35:22vitamin

00:35:23is also

00:35:23involved

00:35:24and

00:35:24when

00:35:24you

00:35:25enter

00:35:2520%

00:35:27how much

00:35:28do you

00:35:31pay?

00:35:38when

00:35:38you

00:35:39get 20%

00:35:40of our

00:35:40money

00:35:40pay?

00:36:13thank you

00:36:16yang kami hormati

00:36:20pimpinan rapat

00:36:22Bapak Menteri Keuangan

00:36:24yang mungkin dalam hal ini

00:36:27selaku Ketua Satgas

00:36:29Percepatan Program Strategis

00:36:31Pemerintah

00:36:33Tuli apa?

00:36:35Oh, ketua

00:36:36mohon maaf

00:36:38kemudian

00:36:39selaku juga

00:36:41Wakil Ketua Komisi Pengawas SKT

00:36:45Kamigas

00:36:47itu betul

00:36:49dan juga

00:36:50maksudnya gue bos lo

00:36:53iya Pak Menteri

00:36:55dan juga

00:36:56senior saya di ITB

00:37:01beserta seluruh jajaran

00:37:03eselon 1, eselon 2

00:37:05Kementerian Keuangan

00:37:07ada Pak Sekjen, Pak Heru

00:37:09ini sesama alumni Inggris Pak

00:37:12Pak Fabrio

00:37:13Pak Elan juga

00:37:14Bapak Ibu sekalian

00:37:15ini mohon maaf

00:37:16tidak saya sebutkan

00:37:17satu persatu Pak

00:37:18rekan-rekan eselon 1

00:37:20dari Kementerian Lembaga

00:37:21ada Pak Diputi Seskap

00:37:22Pak Sigit

00:37:25dari

00:37:25terima kasih Pak

00:37:26setelah

00:37:27mengeluarkan amdanya

00:37:29dari Bapak Nas

00:37:30dari

00:37:31Ketua Tanan juga

00:37:34rekan-rekan SKT

00:37:36Kamigas

00:37:36hadir semua disini Pak

00:37:37pengawas internal

00:37:38General Ibnuni

00:37:39bekas

00:37:40dari Densus

00:37:418

00:37:4220 tahun

00:37:43suka

00:37:43menembakkan orang Pak

00:37:44nanggapkan teroris

00:37:47dan teman-teman

00:37:48Diputi Lena

00:37:50saya hadir disini semua Pak

00:37:51kemudian

00:37:53Presiden Direktur

00:37:54Impeks

00:37:55kemudian

00:37:57Wadirut

00:37:57dan Direktur Petamina

00:37:59dan Direktur

00:38:00Utama Petronas

00:38:02ini keluhan mereka Pak

00:38:04biasanya

00:38:05saya

00:38:06Pak Joko

00:38:07kok kita punya share

00:38:08tapi jarang diikut

00:38:09bicara ini sama

00:38:10Impeks

00:38:13gak ada

00:38:1420

00:38:16Pertamina

00:38:1715 Petronas

00:38:20dan rekan-rekan semuanya

00:38:22pertama kita panjatkan

00:38:24puji syukur

00:38:25kepada Tuhan Makuasa

00:38:26karena atas berkat rahmatnya

00:38:27kita ada beri kesempatan

00:38:28untuk hadir disini

00:38:29secara fisik

00:38:32bahan paparan saya

00:38:33lebih kurang

00:38:34hampir sama Pak

00:38:35nanti saya lebih dicari

00:38:36Jared

00:38:36there's complaint for you

00:38:39this project

00:38:41in this project

00:38:42Pertamina

00:38:43whole energy

00:38:44holds

00:38:4520%

00:38:47Petronas

00:38:4715%

00:38:48but they've

00:38:49never been invited

00:38:51to your meeting

00:38:53please

00:38:54work more

00:38:55together

00:38:55more closely

00:38:58we're the battling

00:39:00over here

00:39:00over there

00:39:02okay

00:39:02well noted

00:39:03we have a good

00:39:04relationship

00:39:05with our partners

00:39:06and they're very

00:39:07helpful for us

00:39:08so well noted

00:39:09we can do

00:39:09thank you

00:39:10Pak next

00:39:11ketanya

00:39:12mau diundang Pak

00:39:17bahan kami

00:39:18sebetulnya

00:39:18hampir sama Pak

00:39:19dengan

00:39:19impacts

00:39:21subtansinya

00:39:21tetapi bedanya

00:39:22nanti saya bahas

00:39:23Indonesia

00:39:23dan lebih detail Pak

00:39:26sebelum memulai

00:39:27tadi

00:39:28mohon izin

00:39:29kalau boleh

00:39:30menjawab pertanyaan

00:39:31Pak Menteri tadi

00:39:32untuk yang domestik Pak

00:39:33gas pipa itu

00:39:35150 MN

00:39:36untuk pupuk

00:39:38PLN

00:39:40PGN

00:39:40itu tahun lalu

00:39:41kita sudah

00:39:42HOA

00:39:43tapi non-binding Pak

00:39:45jadi untuk setahun

00:39:46kita berharap

00:39:48tahun ini

00:39:49bisa

00:39:51PJBG lah

00:39:52gitu

00:39:52kemudian

00:39:54mengenai harga

00:39:55di POD kita

00:39:56untuk yang

00:39:58gas pipa itu

00:40:026,8 USD

00:40:05per MMBTU

00:40:07atau

00:40:08itu bisa

00:40:09kalau di

00:40:10lembar ke

00:40:11domestic market

00:40:12kan udah bagus kan

00:40:12kita beli

00:40:14mahal kan

00:40:1412

00:40:15berapa sekarang

00:40:16industri-industri

00:40:17tekstil

00:40:17segala macam itu

00:40:18kalau beli gas

00:40:19tapi kalau dikasih

00:40:20ke PGN

00:40:21jangan-jangan

00:40:21di markup lagi

00:40:22jadi sampai ke pasarnya

00:40:22juga 12-13

00:40:23bisa gak dicari

00:40:25nanti ke depan

00:40:26schedule yang bagus

00:40:29skema yang bagus

00:40:30sehingga

00:40:32domestic

00:40:33industri-industri

00:40:34Dalun Ogri

00:40:34bisa menikmati

00:40:35dalam hal

00:40:36dengan harga yang

00:40:36lebih kompetitif

00:40:38itu yang bisa dipikirin

00:40:40SKK nanti ya

00:40:40iya

00:40:41harusnya sih bisa Pak

00:40:42untuk di ini

00:40:43kemudian kalau

00:40:45LNG-nya

00:40:45itu

00:40:4740%

00:40:48untuk domestik

00:40:50dan ekspornya

00:40:5260%

00:40:52harganya

00:40:53di dalam

00:40:54POD

00:40:5413,5%

00:40:56dikali

00:40:57ICP

00:40:58nah market sekarang

00:41:00itu

00:41:02ini

00:41:02juga akan

00:41:03FID

00:41:04dalam waktu dekat

00:41:05itu 12,5%

00:41:07Pak

00:41:08dari brandnya

00:41:09nah kami berharap

00:41:12juga

00:41:14impact

00:41:15untuk segera

00:41:16memasarkan

00:41:17LNG-nya

00:41:19dan segera

00:41:21PJBG

00:41:21dengan domestik

00:41:24kalau

00:41:26kesulitan

00:41:26kami akan

00:41:27menugaskan

00:41:29Pertamina

00:41:29untuk menjual

00:41:30LNG-nya Pak

00:41:31jadi 20%

00:41:33kalau gak diajak

00:41:33ngomong sama

00:41:34impact

00:41:34udah tugasnya

00:41:35nanti dari SKK

00:41:36jual

00:41:37LNG-nya aja Pak

00:41:39supaya ada

00:41:39kegiatan

00:41:40sama Petronas

00:41:43itu Pak

00:41:44untuk sementara

00:41:45jawaban

00:41:45tadi

00:41:47Pertamina

00:41:47Pak Menteri

00:41:48nah

00:41:49ini

00:41:50paparan

00:41:51kami Pak

00:41:53jadi

00:41:54obahannya

00:41:55kayak kurang lengkap ya

00:41:56dengan yang

00:41:58saya punya

00:41:58oke

00:42:00ini

00:42:01PSC-nya

00:42:01PSC

00:42:01cost recovery

00:42:02impact

00:42:0365%

00:42:04Pertamina

00:42:0520%

00:42:05Petronas

00:42:0615%

00:42:07tadi sudah

00:42:08investasi

00:42:0912,9

00:42:10bilion

00:42:12kemudian

00:42:13nantinya

00:42:14ada 9,5

00:42:15metric ton

00:42:17per tahun

00:42:18gas

00:42:19450

00:42:19dan kondensat

00:42:21350 ribu

00:42:22barel

00:42:24tadi sudah

00:42:25disampaikan

00:42:25oleh

00:42:26impact

00:42:27ruang lingkupnya

00:42:28itu nanti

00:42:28ada 14 sumur

00:42:30pengembangan

00:42:30nah ini

00:42:3120,9

00:42:32miliar

00:42:33untuk apa saja sih

00:42:33tadi sudah

00:42:34disampaikan

00:42:341,9

00:42:35untuk biaya

00:42:36yang sudah keluar

00:42:38kemudian

00:42:40dulunya sih

00:42:41sebetulnya

00:42:42ngebornya

00:42:42cuma

00:42:42oke

00:42:43nanti saya sampaikan

00:42:43ada

00:42:4415 sumur itu

00:42:461,641

00:42:47miliar

00:42:48untuk

00:42:49surf

00:42:50atau

00:42:51subsea

00:42:51umbilikan

00:42:52pressure and

00:42:53flowline

00:42:53itu

00:42:531,343

00:42:56miliar

00:42:57onshore

00:42:58LNG ini

00:42:59paling besar

00:42:5910,9

00:43:0110 miliar

00:43:02FPSO

00:43:03floating

00:43:03production

00:43:04storage

00:43:04of loading

00:43:053,324

00:43:06miliar

00:43:06gas

00:43:08export pipeline

00:43:09ini pipa

00:43:11937

00:43:11miliar

00:43:13CCS

00:43:14CCUS

00:43:141,088

00:43:15miliar

00:43:16tadi itu ditambahkan

00:43:17untuk

00:43:18biaya

00:43:18dulu itu

00:43:20sebetulnya

00:43:20awalnya cuma

00:43:2110 sumur

00:43:22Pak

00:43:22380 juta

00:43:23tapi udah hampir

00:43:2425 tahun

00:43:25gak ini

00:43:25biayanya

00:43:26akhirnya sekarang

00:43:27sudah hampir

00:43:27tadi disampaikan

00:43:281,9

00:43:29jadi total

00:43:30sekitar

00:43:3020,9

00:43:31miliar

00:43:33sebelah kanan

00:43:34bawah itu

00:43:35sejak

00:43:36tanda tangan

00:43:36kontrak

00:43:37PSC

00:43:37tahun

00:43:381998

00:43:39kemudian

00:43:40discovery

00:43:40tahun 2000

00:43:41kemudian

00:43:43POD pertama

00:43:432,5

00:43:44MTPA

00:43:45rencananya kita

00:43:45mau basang pipa

00:43:47ke

00:43:47Australia

00:43:48gak jadi juga

00:43:49karena cukup

00:43:50dekat

00:43:51dari

00:43:52lokasi

00:43:53terus

00:43:54akhirnya

00:43:55FLNG

00:43:56berubah lagi

00:43:577,5

00:43:57MTPA

00:43:58berubah lagi

00:44:00perdebatan

00:44:01onshore

00:44:01offshore

00:44:03kemudian

00:44:042016

00:44:04diputuskan

00:44:05ke

00:44:06onshore

00:44:06kemudian

00:44:07ada

00:44:07revisi

00:44:08POD

00:44:081

00:44:09yang terakhir

00:44:11sampai saat ini

00:44:119,5

00:44:13MTPA

00:44:13150

00:44:15MFCF

00:44:16gas pipa

00:44:17dan

00:44:17diperpanjang

00:44:18sampai

00:44:192055

00:44:22ini

00:44:23jarang sekali

00:44:23Pak

00:44:23belum produksi

00:44:25tapi kita

00:44:25perpanjang

00:44:26kemudian

00:44:272023

00:44:28masuklah

00:44:29Pertamina

00:44:30Petronas

00:44:31bergabung

00:44:32sebagai mitra

00:44:34kemudian

00:44:35ada

00:44:35revisi

00:44:35POD 2

00:44:36ada

00:44:37CCS

00:44:38CCUS

00:44:38kemudian

00:44:40terakhir

00:44:40September

00:44:412025

00:44:42kita mulai

00:44:44feed

00:44:45dan saya

00:44:45sudah

00:44:46mendatangani

00:44:47untuk

00:44:48personel

00:44:49recruitment

00:44:50personel

00:44:50itu

00:44:51sejumlah

00:44:51200 miliar

00:44:52rupiah

00:44:53dan sudah

00:44:54mendatangani

00:44:55untuk

00:44:55yearly production

00:44:57untuk

00:44:58bikin

00:44:59jalan

00:44:59persiapan

00:45:00lahan

00:45:00itu sebesar

00:45:011 triliun

00:45:02yang nantinya

00:45:03insya Allah

00:45:04habis lebaran

00:45:05kita groundbreaking

00:45:07next slide

00:45:08habis lebaran

00:45:08groundbreaking

00:45:09untuk

00:45:10ini Pak

00:45:11groundbreaking

00:45:11untuk

00:45:12buat

00:45:13jalan

00:45:13pager

00:45:14dan

00:45:14persiapan

00:45:15untuk

00:45:16OLNG

00:45:17karena

00:45:18amdalnya

00:45:19sudah terbit

00:45:19ini di luar

00:45:20yang tadi

00:45:20CCS

00:45:21di luar

00:45:22yang

00:45:24itu

00:45:25bisa dianggap

00:45:26groundbreaking

00:45:27ini

00:45:27apa

00:45:27bukan Pak

00:45:31kami

00:45:32berencana

00:45:33groundbreaking

00:45:33Pak

00:45:33karena

00:45:35ini untuk

00:45:36menimbulkan

00:45:37iklim

00:45:37investasi

00:45:38yang bagus

00:45:39ini proyek

00:45:40sudah lama

00:45:40sekali

00:45:40dan sudah

00:45:41saya tanda tangani

00:45:42juga

00:45:43pemenang

00:45:44lelangnya

00:45:44dan

00:45:46AFV-nya

00:45:46dan harus

00:45:47segera Pak

00:45:47kalau enggak

00:45:48nanti

00:45:48Pak

00:45:49Jared

00:45:52there's a plan

00:45:53from

00:45:53SKT Amiga

00:45:54to ground

00:45:55break

00:45:55the

00:45:56OLNG

00:45:57project

00:45:58where

00:45:59one month

00:45:59from now

00:46:00kapan

00:46:01tadi

00:46:02April

00:46:03habis

00:46:04lebaran

00:46:04after

00:46:05Idul Fitri

00:46:07do you agree

00:46:08with that plan

00:46:09yes

00:46:10that's our target

00:46:11as well

00:46:11we're looking

00:46:12to accelerate

00:46:12and start

00:46:13to work

00:46:13as soon as

00:46:14possible

00:46:14so yes

00:46:15early April

00:46:16is what

00:46:17we're planning

00:46:18oke

00:46:19kalau gitu

00:46:19kita bisa ngomong

00:46:20nanti ke media

00:46:21publik

00:46:22bahwa

00:46:23setelah lebaran

00:46:24ini ground break

00:46:25bagaimana

00:46:26iya Pak

00:46:28yang biasa

00:46:30paralel

00:46:30tapi ini bagian dari ini

00:46:31paralel sudah bisa

00:46:32di ground break

00:46:32jadi proyek ini

00:46:33sudah di ground break

00:46:33setelah lebaran

00:46:35seperti itu

00:46:37iya Pak

00:46:37oke good

00:46:38oke

00:46:39cuman

00:46:39nanti

00:46:40langkah ke

00:46:41ground breaking

00:46:41nanti saya

00:46:42ada di slide

00:46:43lagi Pak

00:46:45next slide

00:46:46Pak Menteri bisa

00:46:47menambahkan

00:46:48nanti dulu

00:46:49sebelum saya selesai

00:46:50nanti aja

00:46:57oke

00:47:01ini sebetulnya

00:47:02lebih detail aja

00:47:03dengan angka-angka Pak

00:47:05jadi pencapaian proyek

00:47:06saat ini

00:47:08pendatangangan

00:47:09kontrak

00:47:10FID

00:47:10yang saya pendatangani

00:47:11itu udah

00:47:13FID 3

00:47:14225

00:47:16kemudian

00:47:16MOU

00:47:17tentang

00:47:19independent design review

00:47:20juga sudah

00:47:20kemarin

00:47:21tahun lalu

00:47:22kemudian

00:47:23AFE juga sudah

00:47:24ditandatangani

00:47:25kemudian

00:47:26CCS-CCUS

00:47:26juga

00:47:27studinya

00:47:28sedang berjalan terus

00:47:29kemudian

00:47:30PPKH

00:47:31sudah

00:47:32tanggal 7

00:47:342026

00:47:35dan kita sudah

00:47:36membayar Pak

00:47:36kalau gak bayar

00:47:37nanti

00:47:38sama Pak Sigit

00:47:38gak dikeluarkan

00:47:39itunya

00:47:40apa namanya

00:47:41amdanya

00:47:42jadi di pengadilan itu

00:47:44diputuskan

00:47:44satu meter itu

00:47:4615 rupiah

00:47:47memang ini

00:47:47kurang manusiawi

00:47:48kita lagi mikir

00:47:50gimana caranya

00:47:50nanti tim du

00:47:51kita tugaskan

00:47:52berapa sih

00:47:53untuk penggantian

00:47:54nanti tanam tumbuh

00:47:55hutan di sana Pak

00:47:56amdanya kemarin terbit

00:47:57progres saat ini

00:47:59fit nyasur

00:48:01sudah 56,13%

00:48:03aktualnya

00:48:05dari rencana

00:48:0655

00:48:06lebih sedikit

00:48:07kemudian

00:48:09fit

00:48:09gas export pipeline

00:48:11sudah 56,7%

00:48:13sesuai target

00:48:14fit FSO

00:48:15juga sesuai target

00:48:17fit

00:48:18OLNG

00:48:19juga sesuai target

00:48:20kemudian

00:48:21project financing

00:48:22nah ini Pak

00:48:22yang untuk

00:48:23PJBG

00:48:24kami minta

00:48:25nanti Pertamina

00:48:26turut membantu

00:48:27atau langsung

00:48:27SKK menugaskan

00:48:28Pertamina

00:48:29untuk cari

00:48:29marketnya

00:48:31itu kita berharap

00:48:32K2

00:48:33sudah selesai

00:48:34kita sudah

00:48:36progresnya

00:48:3635%

00:48:39kemudian

00:48:40HOA

00:48:40ini dengan PLN

00:48:41tadi saya sampaikan

00:48:42tahun lalu di acara

00:48:43B kita paksa

00:48:44tanda tangan

00:48:44tapi non-bending

00:48:45jadi ini kayak

00:48:46bukan main-main

00:48:48ya bukan abu leki

00:48:48tapi langkah

00:48:49langkah yang harus

00:48:51kita

00:48:52lanjuti

00:48:52dengan yang

00:48:53bending lah

00:48:54paling tidak

00:48:54kemudian target

00:48:56nah targetnya

00:48:57FPCI itu

00:48:58nanti Juni

00:48:59sampai Oktober

00:48:59Pak

00:48:59mereka janji

00:49:00Juni itu

00:49:01sudah selesai

00:49:02nah dari situ

00:49:03mungkin ada

00:49:03progres-progres

00:49:04perubahan

00:49:05budget dan sebagainya

00:49:06rencana tender

00:49:06dan sebagainya

00:49:07tapi nanti

00:49:08finalnya Oktober

00:49:09begitu pula

00:49:10untuk yang

00:49:11EPSI

00:49:12nanti Juni

00:49:13sampai November

00:49:13OLNG

00:49:14dan FSO

00:49:15ini yang paling

00:49:16paling berat

00:49:16ini Pak

00:49:17untuk fitnya

00:49:18kalau yang atas

00:49:20surf dengan

00:49:20GP itu

00:49:21biasa kita melakukan

00:49:22itu

00:49:23nah ini

00:49:24ini work

00:49:25mulai

00:49:26PIS 1

00:49:262018

00:49:26atau apa

00:49:27itu ini Pak

00:49:28yang mau ground breaking

00:49:29Pak

00:49:31nanti

00:49:32ground breaking

00:49:32ini sudah

00:49:33pemenangnya

00:49:34sudah juga

00:49:34sudah disetujui oleh

00:49:35SKK Amigas

00:49:36nilainya

00:49:371 turun

00:49:37Pak

00:49:52ini sekitar

00:49:5310 km

00:49:54jalannya

00:49:55sama pagernya

00:49:57ini Pak

00:49:57nah kemudian

00:49:59finalisasi

00:50:00LNG Development

00:50:01Agreement

00:50:02atau LDA

00:50:03ini kita

00:50:04targetnya

00:50:04Desember

00:50:05karena Pak

00:50:06tanpa GSA

00:50:08tanpa PJBG

00:50:10ya ini

00:50:12gak bisa

00:50:12FID

00:50:13jadi kita

00:50:15pengen

00:50:17pembeli gasnya

00:50:18itu harus

00:50:18sudah ada

00:50:19sebelum

00:50:20FID

00:50:20jadi FID

00:50:21kalau

00:50:22akhir Desember

00:50:23tahun ini

00:50:24ya paling

00:50:25enggak

00:50:25awal

00:50:26atau

00:50:26pertengahan

00:50:27Desember

00:50:28itu sudah

00:50:28tanda tangan

00:50:30sudah ada

00:50:31pembeli

00:50:33LNG-nya

00:50:34jadi kalau

00:50:35kita bandingkan

00:50:35dengan

00:50:36ENI

00:50:36dengan

00:50:36Mubadala

00:50:37ENI itu

00:50:39mungkin

00:50:40minggu depan

00:50:41sudah tanda tangan

00:50:41FID-nya Pak

00:50:42karena dia

00:50:42sudah mendapatkan

00:50:43harga

00:50:46atau sudah

00:50:47selesai

00:50:47nelang

00:50:49dalam negeri

00:50:50dan luar negeri

00:50:50PLN

00:50:51PGN

00:50:51sudah PGN

00:50:52itu 12,4%

00:50:54jadi ENI itu

00:50:55field baru

00:50:56atau field lama

00:50:57diperbaiki

00:50:57yang mana Pak

00:50:58yang ENI

00:50:59di Kalimantan

00:51:00ENI itu

00:51:01field baru Pak

00:51:02Geng Nord

00:51:03dan Gendalo

00:51:03Gendang

00:51:05jadi eksplorasi

00:51:06baru

00:51:06cuman memang

00:51:07di sekitar

00:51:07Kutai Basin

00:51:08saja

00:51:08nanti

00:51:10on stream-nya

00:51:102028

00:51:11jadi market

00:51:132028 itu

00:51:1312,5

00:51:15kalau

00:51:16Masela

00:51:17ingin

00:51:18kan kita berharap

00:51:192029 Pak

00:51:21bisa

00:51:22adalah

00:51:23sudah selesai

00:51:24ininya

00:51:24pembangunannya

00:51:25kalaupun tidak

00:51:26on stream

00:51:262030 lah

00:51:28kira-kira

00:51:28tapi kan

00:51:30harga gasnya

00:51:30harus sudah kita

00:51:31jangan

00:51:32kalau bisa

00:51:332028

00:51:33akhir

00:51:342028

00:51:35ENI Pak

00:51:36ENI

00:51:36nanti

00:51:372029

00:51:38minimum

00:51:39Pak Presiden

00:51:40sudah bisa melihat

00:51:41fondasinya

00:51:42LNG lah Pak

00:51:44minimum

00:51:45minimum Pak

00:51:46minimum

00:51:46syukur-syukur

00:51:47bisa sudah setengah

00:51:48nanti akhir

00:51:492029

00:51:50gas bisa

00:51:50lu bawa Presiden

00:51:51jauh-jauh saja

00:51:52melihat fondasi

00:51:53mana lu

00:51:54target lu kurang agresif

00:51:55sorry

00:51:56makanya Pak

00:51:57ini kita desak

00:51:58supaya

00:51:59LNG-nya

00:52:00terini Pak

00:52:03nah

00:52:03gitu

00:52:04paling enggak kan

00:52:05kesana ada

00:52:06bangunan

00:52:08ya ada hilal

00:52:09ada hilal Pak

00:52:10ya ENI ya

00:52:11kalau ini udah oke Pak

00:52:13ENI kan mau

00:52:15pinjam alat kita juga kan

00:52:16ya itu Pak

00:52:17nanti saya mungkin

00:52:18nanti saya berdua

00:52:20sama Bapak aja

00:52:20belum sih Pak

00:52:21apa sekarang Pak

00:52:22boleh

00:52:24nanti kita mau berdua aja

00:52:26ini bicara

00:52:27masalah kan

00:52:28gak enak juga nanti

00:52:29tapi bagus juga sih

00:52:30kalau bawa perintah sekarang

00:52:32boleh Pak

00:52:33yang ENI

00:52:35ya

00:52:35boleh aja

00:52:36jadi gini Pak

00:52:37ENI itu perlu

00:52:40LNG plan

00:52:41sudah ada

00:52:42tapi

00:52:43udah agak rusak

00:52:44bekas dulu

00:52:44bekas punya PT Badak

00:52:46nah ENI

00:52:48akan invest

00:52:49memperbaiki

00:52:50150 juta dolar

00:52:52nah

00:52:54LMAN

00:52:55itu

00:52:56biasanya

00:52:57trend 1,2,3

00:52:59yang sudah diperbaiki

00:53:00ditarik

00:53:01fee

00:53:02sewa

00:53:030,22 sen

00:53:06ini

00:53:07nanya ke SKK

00:53:08ke pemerintah

00:53:09dua pilihan

00:53:11mau dikosreka fee

00:53:13atau

00:53:14tetap bayar

00:53:1522 sen

00:53:15yang selama ini

00:53:16kita kosrek Pak

00:53:18kalau LMAN

00:53:19tetap ngotot

00:53:2022 sen

00:53:22ya sudah

00:53:23akhirnya dia minta

00:53:23dikosreka fee

00:53:24artinya

00:53:25negara

00:53:25tekor dua kali Pak

00:53:28kita udah

00:53:29berhasil

00:53:29nego sama ENI

00:53:30oke

00:53:31gak usah dikosreka fee

00:53:32aset milik

00:53:33PT Badak

00:53:34tapi

00:53:37sewanya

00:53:38dikurangin

00:53:3975%

00:53:41supaya impas Pak

00:53:42daripada kita

00:53:43kena dua kali Pak

00:53:44Pak Menteri kan

00:53:46waktu itu

00:53:46mutusnya 50-50

00:53:47jadi 11 sen

00:53:49saja

00:53:50ini

00:53:51supaya

00:53:52kita gak

00:53:52bayar

00:53:53kosrek rafi

00:53:53dikasih diskon

00:53:55Pak

00:53:55bayarnya

00:53:5520 persen

00:53:56saja

00:53:59dari 22

00:54:01dari

00:54:0122 kan

00:54:03paronya

00:54:0411

00:54:040,55

00:54:060,55

00:54:1122

00:54:14seperempatnya

00:54:15aja

00:54:15seperempatnya

00:54:1755

00:54:1855

00:54:18dolar

00:54:19sen

00:54:20sen

00:54:22menurut Anda itu

00:54:22paling untung

00:54:24yang penting

00:54:25daripada negara

00:54:26gak dapat apa-apa Pak

00:54:26ini kan

00:54:27barang

00:54:28ini kan barang

00:54:29rongsok juga

00:54:30yang dipakai

00:54:31menurut Anda

00:54:32paling untung itu

00:54:32pas aja Pak

00:54:34pas

00:54:34jadi kita dapat aset

00:54:36150 juta

00:54:37dapat uang juga

00:54:38per

00:54:39MMB2 nya itu

00:54:41tadi

00:54:415,5 sen

00:54:42dijualnya kemana itu

00:54:44oh

00:54:45kita dapat

00:54:47harga 5,5 sen

00:54:49sewahnya

00:54:49per MMB2

00:54:50sewah

00:54:51itu dijual kemana

00:54:53market

00:54:53asalnya dimana

00:54:54keluar negeri

00:54:55gak masuk ke

00:54:56Elman duit

00:54:56ya

00:54:57gasnya

00:54:58gasnya

00:55:00gasnya

00:55:00oh

00:55:01gasnya itu

00:55:03kita

00:55:03sepakat

00:55:0470-30

00:55:0570 buat

00:55:07domestik

00:55:0830 ekspor

00:55:0970

00:55:10ke pasar

00:55:11berapa harganya

00:55:12kira-kira

00:55:12tadi sudah

00:55:13sudah tinggal

00:55:14apa namanya

00:55:16tanda tanpa

00:55:17menteri

00:55:17sudah selesai

00:55:18negosiasinya

00:55:19sudah final

00:55:1912,4

00:55:20persen

00:55:22persen pak

00:55:23persen ACP

00:55:23iya

00:55:2512,4

00:55:26dari persen ACP

00:55:27iya

00:55:2812,4 persen

00:55:29sekarang berapa

00:55:30jadi

00:55:32sekarang 63

00:55:34ya

00:55:35iya

00:55:37ketujuh

00:55:37ya

00:55:40itu ke PGN

00:55:41apa ke pasar

00:55:42langsung

00:55:42harga di pasar

00:55:43PGN dan ke PLN

00:55:47kalau ke industri

00:55:48bisa

00:55:49industri lewat

00:55:51PGN pak

00:55:52ada dua industri

00:55:53pre-port

00:55:54sama

00:55:55Ospiras

00:55:56saya cari

00:55:58bisa gak

00:55:59ke industri

00:55:59harganya

00:56:00murah

00:56:00dari sekarang

00:56:01kalau anda

00:56:02ke PGN

00:56:027 atau 8

00:56:03dia ambil

00:56:04margin berapa

00:56:054 dolar

00:56:0612 dolar

00:56:07juga sampai

00:56:0812 sen

00:56:09juga sana

00:56:09sampai

00:56:10ke industri

00:56:11sekarang itu

00:56:12di Jawa Barat

00:56:1314 dolar pak

00:56:1514 dolar kan

00:56:16kan kemahalan

00:56:18kalau ini

00:56:19dapat 8

00:56:20di

00:56:208 atau 9

00:56:22bisa gak

00:56:24dia itu

00:56:25ya

00:56:26karena

00:56:27pakai LNG kan pak

00:56:28ada

00:56:29hongkos regasnya

00:56:30lagi

00:56:31dipanye lagi

00:56:33apa

00:56:34apa

00:56:34paling murah

00:56:34dengan skema

00:56:36sekarang

00:56:36paling murah

00:56:37berapa

00:56:37pakai industri

00:56:38sampai level

00:56:38industri ya

00:56:40udah anda

00:56:41hitung tuh

00:56:42PGNnya

00:56:44ya

00:56:45bervariasi

00:56:46sih pak

00:56:46paling murah

00:56:47pakai

00:56:48apa

00:56:49apa

00:56:50LGBT

00:56:51itu

00:56:526

00:56:57dengan harga

00:56:59sekarang nih

00:56:59anda kan

00:57:008

00:57:007

00:57:01sampai 8

00:57:01tadi kira-kira kan

00:57:02PGN

00:57:03sampainya

00:57:03situ

00:57:05kalau

00:57:06PGN baru

00:57:06ke industrinya

00:57:07PGN yang ambil

00:57:08untung

00:57:08bisa banyak tuh

00:57:09bisa gak dikontrol

00:57:10supaya

00:57:11let's say

00:57:12di 9

00:57:129 dolar

00:57:13sekitar persen

00:57:14dari harga

00:57:15harga

00:57:15entahnya

00:57:16ke industri

00:57:18sebetulnya memang

00:57:19kita ada

00:57:21permen

00:57:22yang ada

00:57:22kata-katanya sih

00:57:23maksimal

00:57:23pak

00:57:23sekian persen

00:57:24dari harga

00:57:26bulunya

00:57:26itu boleh diambil

00:57:27keuntungannya

00:57:28nah

00:57:29mungkin kita

00:57:30negosiasi

00:57:31ini ada pak

00:57:31PGN juga

00:57:32kan di bawah

00:57:33vitamina

00:57:33boleh ambil

00:57:35untung

00:57:35tapi jangan terlalu

00:57:36gede lah

00:57:36tapi dia

00:57:37alasannya

00:57:38ditargetkan

00:57:38sama dan antara

00:57:39keuntungannya

00:57:40harus lebih

00:57:41tinggi dari

00:57:42tahun

00:57:43kalau kita

00:57:44industri kita

00:57:45gak bisa hidup

00:57:46kalau industri

00:57:47gak hidup

00:57:47saya gak

00:57:47mau mikirin tuh

00:57:48ini nya

00:57:49baru amat

00:57:50tapi kalau

00:57:51industri nya

00:57:51bisa hidup

00:57:52kita

00:57:53ambil

00:57:54term yang

00:57:55anda tawarkan

00:57:59boleh pak

00:58:00masih ada

00:58:01yang dalam

00:58:02domestik lainnya

00:58:02sekitar 10%

00:58:04pak

00:58:04itu belum

00:58:05belum ini sih

00:58:06jadi ini kan

00:58:08yang penting

00:58:0880%

00:58:09sudah

00:58:10termonetisasi

00:58:11sehingga

00:58:11FID bisa jalan

00:58:12nah 20%

00:58:13itulah

00:58:13kita

00:58:14bisa untuk

00:58:15nego pak

00:58:19coba deh

00:58:20pikirin

00:58:23final

00:58:23price

00:58:25di industrial

00:58:26level

00:58:27bukan di

00:58:28penyalur

00:58:29itu yang

00:58:30diininin

00:58:30ke bawah

00:58:32kalau gitu

00:58:33anda tawarin

00:58:34itu udah

00:58:34kita kan

00:58:35pokusannya

00:58:36yang tadi

00:58:36anda

00:58:37mintanya berapa

00:58:395,5

00:58:46gue

00:58:46dia mau

00:58:47minta putusnya

00:58:48sekarang

00:58:48ini

00:58:49nantang

00:58:50dia

00:58:54nanti dia kan

00:58:55penguasa

00:58:56nih

00:58:56ya mesti bisa

00:58:57naikkan

00:58:57Pertamina

00:59:01oke

00:59:02kalau gitu

00:59:02Pertamina

00:59:04anda bilang

00:59:05apa

00:59:06tentang diskusi

00:59:06baru

00:59:07bukan

00:59:07bagaimana

00:59:08anda bisa

00:59:10masukkan

00:59:10apa

00:59:11supaya

00:59:11industrinya

00:59:12betul-betul

00:59:13menikmati

00:59:13harga yang

00:59:14gak terlalu

00:59:15tinggi

00:59:15karena

00:59:16middleman

00:59:19izin

00:59:20Pak Kepala

00:59:21nanti kami

00:59:22akan

00:59:23diskuskan

00:59:23dengan

00:59:23sampel

00:59:24di gas

00:59:24sesuai dengan

00:59:25arahan Pak

00:59:26Kepala

00:59:26tadi

00:59:26kita

00:59:28diskuskan

00:59:29Pak

00:59:29Pak Ketua

00:59:30bukannya saya

00:59:32gak bisa

00:59:32ngambil keputusan

00:59:32sekarang

00:59:34mereka juga

00:59:34gak jelas

00:59:35Bapak juga

00:59:35gak jelas

00:59:36saya sih

00:59:37maunya

00:59:38langsung

00:59:38sekarang

00:59:39jeder

00:59:39tapi kalau

00:59:40gini kan

00:59:40saya jadi

00:59:42keputusannya

00:59:42gak bertanggung jawab

00:59:43mereka juga

00:59:44masih

00:59:44ini

00:59:46coba diskusi

00:59:47seminggu ya

00:59:48anda di internal

00:59:49seminggu

00:59:49nanti kita

00:59:50akan meeting

00:59:50seminggu

00:59:51kita putusin

00:59:51langsung

00:59:52dari any

00:59:53jadi

00:59:53untuk any

00:59:53jadi clear

00:59:54gak usah

00:59:54macam-macam lagi

00:59:55siap Pak

00:59:56terima kasih Pak

00:59:57seminggu Pak

00:59:58bisa lanjut Pak

00:59:59di kolom yang terakhir

01:00:00ini critical pointnya

01:00:01tadi

01:00:01kita sepakat

01:00:02bahwa

01:00:03butir 1 itu

01:00:04fit

01:00:05FECI

01:00:06WLNG

01:00:06supaya selesai

01:00:07sesuai dengan target

01:00:08atau bahkan lebih cepat

01:00:09nah ground breaking ini

01:00:10nanti

01:00:111 April Pak

01:00:12atau habis lebaran

01:00:13paling cepat

01:00:15terus

01:00:16GSA-nya

01:00:16tadi

01:00:17November Pak

01:00:18mohon

01:00:19kita cari

01:00:20gas

01:00:21eh bukan cari gas

01:00:22cari

01:00:22bayar

01:00:24finalisasinya

01:00:25nanti Desember

01:00:26tanda tangan

01:00:26LDA-nya

01:00:27nah

01:00:29yang critical ini Pak

01:00:30tadi Pak

01:00:30tadi sudah disampaikan

01:00:31juga oleh

01:00:31Inpex

01:00:32kita harus sosialisasi

01:00:33tadi aja

01:00:34kami di demo Pak

01:00:35bakar-bakar bank

01:00:36di depan

01:00:36kantor SKK

01:00:37untuk

01:00:38kompensasi ini Pak

01:00:39ya

01:00:39kompensasi ini

01:00:41kan tadi kan

01:00:41baru 15 ribu

01:00:44iya

01:00:44tanam tumbuh Pak

01:00:45tanam tumbuh di bawah

01:00:46kompensasi tanam tumbuh

01:00:47di sana

01:00:47sahum laki

01:00:48jauh banget

01:00:48demo ke sini

01:00:49iya

01:00:50bener loh

01:00:51enggak

01:00:52biasa lah kan

01:00:53apa kipas-kipas

01:00:54LSM kali ingat

01:00:55agen-agen itu

01:00:56diamin aja

01:00:57kalau agen itu

01:00:57yang penting

01:00:57rakyatnya

01:00:58dijaga betul

01:00:59serjahterannya

01:01:00saya menghitung

01:01:01dari sahum laki

01:01:02ke sini

01:01:02untuk demo

01:01:04terlalu mahal

01:01:04ongkosnya

01:01:05biasa perwakilan-perwakilan

01:01:07ada segala

01:01:07mas itu

01:01:07itu agen bayaran

01:01:09maksudnya

01:01:10iya barangkali Pak

01:01:11jangan diperhatiin

01:01:13yang penting

01:01:13di sana

01:01:13diperhatiin

01:01:14di sananya

01:01:14di tanah sana

01:01:15di sahum lakinya

01:01:18kami jaga

01:01:19jangan sampai nanti

01:01:20Pak Menteri ke sana

01:01:20groundbreaking

01:01:21ada demo

01:01:22supaya kita selesai

01:01:23Maret ini

01:01:24kalau perlu

01:01:25seminggu sebelum

01:01:26lebaran

01:01:26hitung-hitung

01:01:27kayak THR

01:01:28gitu kan

01:01:28impact bisa

01:01:30menyelesaikan lah

01:01:30nanti

01:01:32kita sudah tugaskan

01:01:33nanti Gubernur

01:01:34sore ini ada di Jakarta

01:01:35untuk membuat

01:01:36tindu itu Pak

01:01:38SK

01:01:39nanti jangan

01:01:40mahal-mahal

01:01:41kita ada anggaran

01:01:4280-an miliar

01:01:43dari impact

01:01:44sebagai CSR

01:01:45kalau lebih dari itu

01:01:46ya kita paksa

01:01:47anggaran itu

01:01:48atau nanti kita tambah

01:01:49saya tanda tanganin

01:01:51untuk di cost recovery

01:01:53tapi jangan terlalu tinggi

01:01:54lah kira-kira gitu

01:01:56kita ada anggaran

01:01:58untuk kompensasi ini

01:01:5980-an

01:01:59Pak Trayan

01:02:01Capri apa?

01:02:03kan ini PC-PC

01:02:04cost recovery Pak

01:02:06asal kita sepakat

01:02:08bahwa

01:02:09misalnya

01:02:10kebutuhannya

01:02:10nanti 100 miliar Pak

01:02:11kita baru ada

01:02:1280-an

01:02:13kita tambah

01:02:1420 miliar

01:02:15kok di cost recovery juga

01:02:18lupa kira-kira

01:02:22next slide

01:02:25nah ini tadi

01:02:26mengenai

01:02:28ASFORHAP

01:02:29dan permintaan

01:02:29Bupati Tanibar

01:02:30supaya kompensasi

01:02:32tanam tumbuhnya

01:02:33kepada masyarakat

01:02:33kita selesaikan

01:02:38seminggu sebelum lebaran

01:02:39kalau bisa Pak

01:02:41Gubernur kami harap

01:02:42besok

01:02:43sudah ada SK-nya

01:02:45timduhnya Pak

01:02:46hari ini

01:02:47seminggu sebelum lebaran

01:02:48untuk lebaran itu ya?

01:02:49iya Pak

01:02:52harusnya Pak

01:02:53harusnya Pak

01:02:55iya

01:02:57kita belum tahu berapa

01:02:58nanti dari

01:02:59Gubernur bikin timduh ini

01:03:01akan merekomendasikan berapa?

01:03:03Gubernur itu di mana

01:03:05lokasi tempatnya?

01:03:07dia di mana

01:03:08pengusaha daerah Pak

01:03:09di Gubernur Ambon

01:03:11itu ya?

01:03:12Maluku

01:03:14mana Pak?

01:03:16berapa jauh Ambon di situ?

01:03:19kapal

01:03:19pesawat

01:03:20berapa?

01:03:212 jam juga

01:03:23222

01:03:24iya

01:03:25ada

01:03:26ada

01:03:28berapa lama dari Ambon di situ?

01:03:31dari

01:03:32dari Ambon ke Samulaki

01:03:332 jaman

01:03:35pesawat

01:03:50ya kita udah

01:03:52tanggal 5 kemarin

01:03:53sudah bikin surat ke Gubernur

01:03:55dan sudah berkomunikasikan juga

01:03:56untuk

01:03:57segera dibuat

01:03:58timnya Pak

01:04:01kemudian yang 2

01:04:03harapan dari masyarakat sana

01:04:07itu untuk

01:04:08industri UMKM

01:04:10industri lokal

01:04:11barang dan jasa

01:04:12catering

01:04:15servis-servis

01:04:16satpam

01:04:17cuci-cuci

01:04:18UMKM

01:04:19dan lain-lain itu bisa

01:04:20kita

01:04:21kita sudah meeting

01:04:22dengan Inpex

01:04:232 minggu lalu

01:04:25di Hotel Mulia

01:04:26untuk TKDN tadi Pak

01:04:27mungkin Bapak juga

01:04:29sangat concern TKDN

01:04:30kita

01:04:31utamakan

01:04:32kalau dalam negeri ada

01:04:34terutama lokal

01:04:35disana kita

01:04:35semaksimal mungkin

01:04:36kita

01:04:36kita untuk

01:04:38libatkan Pak

01:04:40slide berikutnya

01:04:41next slide

01:04:42mungkin slide terakhir

01:04:45aspirasi pemerintah

01:04:47daerah

01:04:47disana ada 2 kabupaten Pak

01:04:49jadi

01:04:50ada yang jauh

01:04:51ada yang dekat

01:04:52ini menjadi

01:04:53tantangan kita juga

01:04:56terutama dalam

01:04:57peningkatan sumber daya manusia

01:04:58kalau bisa Pak

01:05:00Bapak juga memberikan

01:05:02budget

01:05:02di APBD

01:05:03untuk

01:05:04pelatihan

01:05:05kan mumpung

01:05:07Pak Menteri Pimpin Rapat

01:05:08ada kontribusi

01:05:11jadi minta budget

01:05:13untuk

01:05:13APBD-nya

01:05:15biar ini

01:05:15biar ada pelatihan

01:05:21Cepu siap

01:05:22mendidik Pak

01:05:22cuman

01:05:23anggarannya

01:05:23mungkin kalau ditambah

01:05:24kan mereka senang

01:05:25mendidik mereka

01:05:26saya pikir

01:05:28kalau ada investor

01:05:28malah bagus duitnya

01:05:30investor saya

01:05:32saya nambah lagi

01:05:33kalau ada Pak

01:05:34anggarannya

01:05:38lewat mana

01:05:39lewat

01:05:40transfer daerah kali

01:05:41pemerintah daerah

01:05:42pemerintah daerah Pak

01:05:43oh nanti saya

01:05:45gak mau mereka deh

01:05:46berapa kira

01:05:47nah ini tim du ini Pak

01:05:49nanti yang akan

01:05:50gubernur akan

01:05:52dengan tim du itu

01:05:53akan memberi rekomendasi

01:05:55kalau bisa bagi dua

01:05:56bagi dua

01:05:57kalau gak ya

01:06:06iya

01:06:07oke nanti kita diskusiin aja

01:06:08ya siapa

01:06:11kemudian untuk

01:06:12groundbreaking

01:06:13ini kita perlu

01:06:14pendampingan hukum

01:06:15TNI

01:06:16PORRI

01:06:16kami udah coordinasi juga Pak

01:06:18dengan TNI

01:06:18dengan PORRI

01:06:19dengan Angkatan Laut

01:06:20dengan polisi

01:06:23jaksaan Pak

01:06:23untuk

01:06:25pengeluaran

01:06:26segala pengeluaran itu

01:06:27mesti

01:06:27ada basis

01:06:29governance-nya Pak

01:06:31governance-nya

01:06:32ya

01:06:33meskipun kita kasih

01:06:34apa

01:06:36ganti rugi

01:06:36tetapi

01:06:37administrasinya

01:06:38supaya Pak

01:06:38kira-kira

01:06:39kira-kira Pak

01:06:40di ganderung ini

01:06:41selesai kapan

01:06:42satu minggu sebelum

01:06:43lebaran tadi

01:06:44sebelum lebaran Pak

01:06:44sudah kerja sekarang

01:06:45sudah

01:06:46kami sudah

01:06:47makanya

01:06:48gubernur hari ini datang

01:06:49kami tanggal 5 kemarin

01:06:51sudah kirim surat

01:06:51untuk bikin tim du

01:06:52kita paksa

01:06:53supaya cepat Pak

01:06:55sekolah yang

01:06:56untuk pelatihan tadi

01:06:57kapan

01:06:58pelatihan itu

01:06:59paralel saja Pak

01:07:00paralel

01:07:01nah itu kan bisa

01:07:02kami ini kan

01:07:02belum putusin

01:07:03kita juga belum

01:07:04di selama saya

01:07:04sementara ini kan

01:07:06nanti kita

01:07:06di groundbreaking

01:07:07bikin jalan

01:07:07bikin pagar

01:07:08mungkin banyak

01:07:09yang bisa

01:07:09kira-kira di

01:07:10tenaga lokal

01:07:11cateringnya Pak

01:07:11terus

01:07:13akomodasinya

01:07:15tapi nanti

01:07:16yang pendidikannya

01:07:17mungkin nanti

01:07:17buat operator

01:07:18di sana nanti Pak

01:07:20bisa Pak

01:07:21di BP itu

01:07:2370%

01:07:24di tenaga lokal

01:07:24operasi

01:07:25lainnya Pak

01:07:26kenapa

01:07:27Anda gak minta

01:07:28impact saja

01:07:28untuk

01:07:30untuk edukasinya

01:07:31karena kalau

01:07:32kita bisa ngasih

01:07:34kemarin kan

01:07:35kalau mereka yang ngasih

01:07:37si rasa kepemilikan

01:07:39si masyarakat

01:07:41di situ

01:07:41pembeli di situ

01:07:41lebih besar

01:07:43jadi akan mendukung

01:07:44100%

01:07:45boleh Pak

01:07:46memang utamakan

01:07:47impact

01:07:48tapi kalau Bapak

01:07:48ada dana aja

01:07:49saya yakin

01:07:50Bapak punya

01:07:53ah ya

01:07:54usaha

01:07:56nanti kita lihat

01:07:57nanti saya

01:07:58disusun sama

01:07:59dijen

01:08:01anggaran

01:08:02dan

01:08:04Pak

01:08:04asal itu

01:08:07perlindungan

01:08:07keuangan

01:08:08peserta air

01:08:08ya

01:08:10terima kasih Pak

01:08:11oke

01:08:11lumayan lah

01:08:1210-20%

01:08:14next

01:08:15next

01:08:16next

01:08:18nah ini yang LDA

01:08:19Pak

01:08:20impact kan

01:08:21sudah dapat

01:08:22persetujuan dari

01:08:23Penteri Keuangan

01:08:24untuk

01:08:25skema pendanaan

01:08:26yang itu

01:08:28trusty

01:08:28borrowing scheme

01:08:29Pak

01:08:30nah

01:08:32waktu itu ada tulisan

01:08:33di

01:08:34di

01:08:34persetujuan itu

01:08:35dibayai seluruhnya

01:08:37oleh bank

01:08:37tetapi

01:08:38impact sudah datang ke kami

01:08:39mereka juga ingin

01:08:41dapat pembihahan

01:08:42dari

01:08:43selain bank Pak

01:08:44dari loan

01:08:45dari apa no

01:08:45bond dan sebagainya

01:08:46itu

01:08:47once mereka

01:08:48sudah tanda tangan

01:08:51financingnya

01:08:51nanti kalau ada

01:08:53perubahan regulasi

01:08:54minta

01:08:55dihormatilah

01:08:56sank city of contract

01:08:58jadi tidak

01:08:59ada

01:08:59misalnya

01:09:01nanti tahun depan

01:09:01dua tahun lagi

01:09:02ada regulasi baru

01:09:03nah mereka harus

01:09:05ngikutin nanti

01:09:05mereka agak

01:09:06agak

01:09:07agak

01:09:07confused lah

01:09:08iya kira-kira gitu Pak

01:09:09once sudah ditanda tangani

01:09:11financingnya

01:09:12baik dengan

01:09:13pinjaman bank

01:09:14maupun pinjaman

01:09:15yang konsumer lain

01:09:16karena mereka juga

01:09:17akan pinjam

01:09:18dari kantor pusatnya

01:09:19ini yang

01:09:20tanda tangan

01:09:21saya kan

01:09:21saya siapa

01:09:22apa dari saya

01:09:24ya artinya minta jaminan

01:09:25itulah

01:09:26nanti dari mana

01:09:27belum

01:09:27dari saya

01:09:28dari kementerian keuangan

01:09:29apa dari saya

01:09:30ya Pak

01:09:30ya kalau perlu begitu Pak

01:09:32dari kementerian keuangan

01:09:34tidak

01:09:35tidak ada perubahan

01:09:36kontrak yang sudah

01:09:38nanti ditanda tangani

01:09:39kontrak yang mana

01:09:40kan nanti dia akan

01:09:42kontrak pinjam

01:09:42dengan bank

01:09:44yang

01:09:44trustyoring bank

01:09:45dengan

01:09:46bond

01:09:47atau dengan

01:09:48kantor pusatnya

01:09:50kan nanti ada

01:09:51financingnya Pak

01:09:52kita sudah jajaki

01:09:53tinggal minta satu tadi

01:09:55mereka itu

01:09:56pemerintahnya

01:09:57info

01:09:57dimana

01:09:59kan Bapak sudah

01:10:00menuju itu Pak

01:10:02trustyoring bank

01:10:02jadi

01:10:03itu jangan berubah

01:10:04persediaan yang itu

01:10:05jangan berubah lagi

01:10:06maksudnya gitu

01:10:07nanti kalau ada regulasi

01:10:08baru Pak

01:10:08ke depan

01:10:11jangan

01:10:11membaipas yang lama

01:10:12gitu

01:10:13jangan berubah yang lama

01:10:16iya

01:10:17misalnya yang

01:10:19DHE aja

01:10:20itu kan

01:10:21uangnya harus tertahan

01:10:22tiga bulan

01:10:24di BI

01:10:26dan nanti tiba-tiba

01:10:28harus satu tahun

01:10:30kemarin ada isu itu Pak

01:10:31sempat ada isu itu kan

01:10:33dari

01:10:34BI atau dari

01:10:35kementerian ekonomi

01:10:36uangnya harus ditahan

01:10:38satu kejahat pun

01:10:39jangan sampai

01:10:39itu maksudnya Pak

01:10:40nanti kan

01:10:41kita bisa jaga itu

01:10:43DHE deh

01:10:45sekarang

01:10:45kalau ada perubahan pun

01:10:47yang udah lama

01:10:48kan kita bisa kecualikan

01:10:49iya itu Pak maksudnya

01:10:50jadi Anda jangan takut

01:10:51iya oke

01:10:52itu aja

01:10:52kan Jepang suka takut

01:10:54kalau ada perubahan

01:10:59itu Pak yang nomor satu

01:11:01oh

01:11:03I want to

01:11:04emphasize that

01:11:06Indonesia

01:11:06never

01:11:08highlight contract

01:11:09and never

01:11:10change regulation

01:11:14whenever

01:11:14the contract

01:11:16has been signed

01:11:17we are not

01:11:18going to

01:11:18issue any

01:11:19regulation

01:11:20although

01:11:20that

01:11:21violate

01:11:22the sanctity

01:11:23of the contract

01:11:25we have

01:11:26never done that

01:11:27we always

01:11:29honor

01:11:30our contract

01:11:30our obligation

01:11:31so don't worry

01:11:33about that

01:11:33but maybe

01:11:34sometime

01:11:35we are making

01:11:35some rule

01:11:36regulation

01:11:37that

01:11:38oversees

01:11:39of all

01:11:41well

01:11:42it

01:11:43does

01:11:44does not

01:11:45deliberately

01:11:45affect the contract

01:11:47but because of

01:11:50linkage impact

01:11:51maybe

01:11:52maybe it affect

01:11:53your contract

01:11:54but let us know

01:11:55about that

01:11:55if it's happening

01:11:57we will

01:11:58adjust

01:11:59accordingly

01:12:00but we

01:12:01never

01:12:04violate

01:12:05the sanctity

01:12:06of the contract

01:12:07that is important

01:12:08very important

01:12:09for

01:12:12investment

01:12:12confidence

01:12:13in the country

01:12:15so

01:12:16like that

01:12:16Pak

01:12:16Bapak

01:12:16jangan tak

01:12:17takut

01:12:17gue

01:12:17baik

01:12:19lambat

01:12:20tempat

01:12:20lo

01:12:20selama

01:12:21ini

01:12:22tempat

01:12:23lo juga

01:12:23Pak

01:12:24Menteri

01:12:24juga

01:12:24lambat

01:12:25kita

01:12:25minta

01:12:26tadi

01:12:26sewa

01:12:36siapa

01:12:39oke

01:12:40ya

01:12:40kita jamin

01:12:41we guarantee

01:12:42whenever you

01:12:43signing the

01:12:45financing

01:12:46agreement

01:12:47then we guarantee

01:12:48still

01:12:48maintains

01:12:49even

01:12:50any

01:12:50change

01:12:51regulation

01:12:51in the future

01:12:52thank you

01:12:53thank you very much

01:12:54you're welcome

01:12:55we have even set up a special team

01:12:58to guide your investment here

01:13:00never happen before right

01:13:02this is one stop

01:13:04service

01:13:04you come to us

01:13:05you'll finish

01:13:06understood

01:13:07thank you very much

01:13:07nah yang nomor 2 Pak

01:13:10kan tadi POD nya 13,5%

01:13:14ekonomik sekarang

01:13:15apalagi tadi Bapak minta harganya murah

01:13:18itu kemungkinan bisa di bawah

01:13:2113,5%

01:13:22di bawah PECOMEN POD

01:13:24otomatis nanti

01:13:25mereka minta

01:13:26insentif Pak

01:13:28nanti insentif kita

01:13:29lihat

01:13:30dari

01:13:30hitung aja

01:13:32yang betul

01:13:32kalau bisa murah

01:13:33murah

01:13:34tapi kan

01:13:35kalau mahalnya

01:13:36gara-gara

01:13:36intermedia

01:13:37perantara itu

01:13:38yang gak bener juga

01:13:39lu naikin harga

01:13:40kasih 4 dolar

01:13:41misalnya

01:13:41ke

01:13:43gas

01:13:43atau

01:13:44Pertamina

01:13:44yang gak bener

01:13:47lu ambil untung

01:13:47disini

01:13:48disananya kita rugi

01:13:49padahal harga

01:13:50disininya

01:13:51gak setinggi itu

01:13:52itu yang mau saya lihat

01:13:53jadi jangan

01:13:54nyalain saya aja

01:13:55udah pinter banget

01:13:56nyalain gue dari tadi

01:13:57jadi kita cari ke arah sana

01:14:00nanti kita

01:14:01berjasama bareng ke depan

01:14:02iya Pak

01:14:02saya mau nyalain Pertamina

01:14:04sama PGN

01:14:06cuman

01:14:08pejabat di Kementerian Keuangan

01:14:09kebanyakan komisaris

01:14:10ke sana Pak

01:14:16Pak

01:14:17betul Pak

01:14:18Pak Sekjen

01:14:21Pertamina gimana

01:14:21bisa kendali gak

01:14:22itu harga

01:14:24siapa?

01:14:26Pertamina nih

01:14:26jadi tadi nembak dia

01:14:27rupanya

01:14:28nembak gue

01:14:28bingung kenapa

01:14:29nembak gue terus

01:14:32katanya nanti

01:14:33dikendalikan

01:14:34nanti kita diskusi aja

01:14:35Alhamdulillah Pak

01:14:36mungkin

01:14:37yang penting harganya optimal

01:14:39dimana industri kita

01:14:39bisa lebih bersaing

01:14:40apalagi kalau mereka

01:14:41bisa dapat gas

01:14:42ini kan dianggap bersihkan

01:14:44dianggap energi bersihkan

01:14:46apa namanya

01:14:46sustainable energy kan

01:14:48di Eropa

01:14:49dia dapat treatment khusus

01:14:51untuk barang-barangnya

01:14:52dia bisa dapat harga

01:14:53apa

01:14:54pajak yang lebih murah lagi

01:14:55atau subsidi dari sana

01:14:56saya gak tau

01:14:57tapi itu penting untuk

01:15:00gaya saing

01:15:01industri kita

01:15:02secara umum

01:15:02ini saya cuman pengen lihat

01:15:04ini bisa segitu

01:15:06bisa gak disana

01:15:08bisa gak kita pakai

01:15:09kesempatan ini

01:15:10kalau gak bisa yaudah

01:15:11berarti kita gak becus

01:15:12tapi kalau bisa

01:15:14berarti kita kompeten

01:15:17terakhir Pak

01:15:17ini permintaan mereka Pak

01:15:19tadi juga disampaikan

01:15:20tapi bahasa Inggris

01:15:22relaksasi Pak

01:15:24relaksasi

01:15:25lokal konten

01:15:27kemudian barang wajib

01:15:28ini kita sudah

01:15:29deregulasinya

01:15:30cuman

01:15:31biasanya

01:15:32saya dapat laporan

01:15:34harganya

01:15:35suka 3 kali

01:15:363 sampai 4 kali

01:15:38lebih mahal Pak

01:15:38ini yang kadang-kadang

01:15:40iya Pak

01:15:41ini

01:15:42aturan TKDN

01:15:44bolehnya

01:15:44kalau domestik itu

01:15:4510%

01:15:4720%

01:15:4725% aja

01:15:48cuman faktanya

01:15:49kadang-kadang

01:15:50entah dari sananya

01:15:51yang banting harga

01:15:52terutama barang-barang

01:15:53dari Cina kan Pak

01:15:54pintar-pintar di

01:15:56masa di TV Cina

01:15:57bisa ketipu

01:15:58kita dari TB

01:16:00pintar katanya

01:16:03ini

01:16:03ini kan

01:16:04mereka nanti jalan

01:16:07kalau ada masalah

01:16:07seperti itu

01:16:08lempar

01:16:08kata spesial tim ini

01:16:10nanti yang spesial tim ini

01:16:12akan bicara dengan

01:16:13dirjen-dirjen di keuangan

01:16:14dia jangan lengkeuangan

01:16:15karena jadi lebih cepat

01:16:16daripada dia masuk

01:16:17masuk ke tempat lain

01:16:18pusing nanti

01:16:19kita beresin disini aja

01:16:20keperindustrian

01:16:21industrianya kita panggil

01:16:22kita beresin disitu

01:16:23ke perdagangan

01:16:24perdagangan kita panggil

01:16:26beresin disitu

01:16:27jadi ini one stop service

01:16:28jadi harusnya aman

01:16:30selama Bapak ngomong sama saya

01:16:32kalau gak ngomong

01:16:33kita gak tau kan

01:16:34ngomong Pak

01:16:35Bapak kadang-kadang

01:16:36waktunya satu menit

01:16:37susah

01:16:40iya

01:16:41saya udah ngomong tadi

01:16:42sewa 22 sen

01:16:43iya iya iya

01:16:44sampai sekarang

01:16:45belum putus juga

01:16:52lo bisa mutusin gak?

01:16:55seminggu lah

01:16:56lo kan baru ngomong barusan

01:17:00iya Pak

01:17:01terima kasih Pak

01:17:04nah kemudian

01:17:05supaya lengkap

01:17:07tanggung sedikit lagi Pak

01:17:08penggunaan galangan juga

01:17:09memang ada kewajiban

01:17:10penggunaan galangan dalam negeri

01:17:12cuman masalahnya

01:17:13kapasitas terbatas

01:17:15full dan tidak safe Pak

01:17:16terakhir itu

01:17:17pakai kapalnya Petronas

01:17:18itu ada orang ya Pak

01:17:193 kali kebakaran Pak

01:17:21bahkan sampai meninggal

01:17:22sehingga saya taken aja

01:17:24boleh di luar negeri

01:17:25karena bisa melambat juga

01:17:27ada kapalnya Petronas

01:17:30pakai galangan dalam negeri

01:17:32ini kan full

01:17:36engineering project ya

01:17:38kalau emang

01:17:39gak mampu dalam ini

01:17:40jangan dipaksa

01:17:41tapi kasih tau

01:17:42kalau channel yang betul

01:17:43jadi kita ngerti

01:17:44memang ini

01:17:45bahaya

01:17:46kalau dijalankan dalam ini

01:17:47karena kurang pengalaman

01:17:49dalam negeri mungkin yang proyek

01:17:51yang skalanya lebih kecil

01:17:52boleh

01:17:52karena bisa diomongin

01:17:54jangan dan lain

01:17:54siapa itu

01:17:55TKDN

01:17:58iya regulasinya

01:17:59selama ada galangan

01:18:01di dalam negeri

01:18:01wajib

01:18:03cuman kan kadang-kadang

01:18:04ini kan

01:18:05tim

01:18:06di bottlenecking

01:18:08memencahkan

01:18:09masalah-masalah

01:18:10seperti itu

01:18:10di bottlenecking

01:18:12saya pikir bisa

01:18:13ngambil keputusan

01:18:14untuk itu

01:18:14nanti disesankan

01:18:15dengan semua menteri

01:18:16yang ada di kementerian

01:18:17jadi walaupun saya

01:18:18sedikit-sedikit

01:18:19menternya banyak ini

01:18:21di belakang

01:18:22jadi kita betul-betul

01:18:24powerful

01:18:25dia ada menteri dalam

01:18:26menteri sesnek

01:18:26dan ekonomian

01:18:28ekonomian

01:18:36ekonomian ada

01:18:37jadi kita lengkap

01:18:39jadi gak usah takut

01:18:40di belakang juga banyak

01:18:42kewakilan dari

01:18:43kementerian lembaga

01:18:43ini 26

01:18:45kementerian

01:18:4526

01:18:4626 kementerian

01:18:48lembaga

01:18:48ikut di tim

01:18:50di bottlenecking ini

01:18:52saya cuman suruh

01:18:53mereka untuk

01:18:54mimpin rapat

01:18:54mingguan

01:18:55jadi

01:18:56ini mewakili negara

01:18:58sebetulnya tim ini

01:18:59jadi bapak gak usah takut

01:19:01kita beresin

01:19:02sama-sama

01:19:06yang baik hati

01:19:13impact

01:19:43pak menteri

01:19:44terima kasih

01:20:13terima kasih

01:20:16sekali lagi

01:20:17assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh

01:20:21asli ada lagi dari

01:20:22impact

01:20:23is there any

01:20:26comment that you still want to add

01:20:30i just

01:20:31i just

01:20:32i have to say

01:20:32thank you very much

01:20:34during

01:20:35this two year

01:20:36i mean

01:20:36from the

01:20:37year 2024

01:20:38just the past two years

01:20:40the project

01:20:41project

01:20:42is a very progress

01:20:43actually

01:20:44thank you for the

01:20:45SKK

01:20:45megas

01:20:46very cooperative

01:20:47thank you very much

01:20:48we are getting

01:20:49the forest release

01:20:50and the approval

01:20:51also

01:20:52and we start

01:20:53the feed

01:20:54and also

01:20:56in addition to

01:20:57we received

01:20:58the very help

01:20:59from the

01:21:00minister

01:21:00very very

01:21:01thank you

01:21:01very much

01:21:02we do

01:21:03we are best

01:21:04for the

01:21:05to the project

01:21:06thank you

01:21:08well thank you very much

01:21:10and thank you very much

01:21:11for investing in the country

01:21:13we will make sure

01:21:14that the investment

01:21:15can be implemented

01:21:17in a timely manner

01:21:18and we will remove

01:21:19all obstacles

01:21:20that you are facing

01:21:21when you are

01:21:22implementing

01:21:23this project

01:21:24so

01:21:25we have set up

01:21:26a special meeting

01:21:28a special team

01:21:29you can

01:21:31contact them

01:21:32anytime you want

01:21:32we will ensure

01:21:34that we will follow

01:21:35it through properly

01:21:36and to fight your call

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