00:00He was warm, he was incredibly vulnerable and funny and smart,
00:04and he was so much fun to be around.
00:07We laughed a lot.
00:09We would always play and make fun of what was happening,
00:13and I wanted to keep those memories intact,
00:16and those make me smile.
00:17Really nice to see you, Patrick.
00:19Good to see you. Thank you.
00:20I thoroughly enjoyed what I've seen of this show so far.
00:22Did you? Good.
00:23Like, it leaves you obviously on that cliffhanger every single time,
00:26every episode, and you're like, okay, give me the next one.
00:28Give me the next one.
00:30How would you cope living a double life?
00:32I think it would be exhausting.
00:34And especially for him to keep it going for so long.
00:38Yeah.
00:38The compartmentalization of it.
00:40You know, it's his ability to cut off emotionally from what he does as a killer,
00:47and then to come back and pretend to be the perfect suburban dad and all of that.
00:53It's this very interesting dynamic to play.
00:56Was it a mental switch in your head each time, because you are playing basically two different
01:01characters?
01:01Yeah, I mean, a little bit.
01:02I mean, for me, the exciting thing was sort of to play the killer and not the romantic lead
01:08and do something different.
01:10The stunt work and the driving and all of that, working with Michael and those scenes to me.
01:17So, and then the dementia was really quite fun.
01:20How do we tell that story visually?
01:24How do you play that emotionally?
01:26How do you show that vulnerability, but at the same time have be a stone cold killer,
01:31but yet a warm, loving father, and then also have the vulnerability of, oh, my God,
01:36I have a character flaw.
01:37I have an illness.
01:38How do I keep that secret?
01:40So he has multiple secrets going on.
01:41That's a lot.
01:42That's a lot for you to deal with.
01:44Yeah, and it's nice because we were just talking that we literally just finished shooting,
01:49and I hadn't had any feedback.
01:51And so you don't know if people are going to like what you're doing.
01:54Is it working?
01:55And it's nice to see that people have embraced it.
01:58And I hope they continue to watch the show because it gets better and more gets explained.
02:04That's what we like.
02:04I was going to come on to the stunt driving.
02:06So I was like, they haven't got a better person,
02:08an endurance racing driver right behind the wheel.
02:11They let you do the stunt driving.
02:12In the Porsche.
02:13Did they let you do it?
02:14They did.
02:14We wanted to do more.
02:16It was just hard because we had run a little bit over budget for various reasons,
02:22but we didn't have enough road.
02:23But yeah, I got to do all the driving.
02:25Oh, my God.
02:25I was going to say, that's not a better person.
02:27It was great.
02:27I loved it.
02:28I could have shot that all day.
02:29I kept going, I think we need one more take, don't we?
02:31Can we do another setup?
02:32All right.
02:33And the crew loved it.
02:34The DP loved it until he was in the passenger seat,
02:38and he was doing the handheld.
02:39And I was pushing the car very hard.
02:42And I had to be very careful with the sidewalls of the tires or the most vulnerable.
02:47And we had the Porsche Taycan Gran Turismo,
02:51which is this sort of the station wagon sports car.
02:53So the acceleration with the electric car was fantastic.
02:56But the problem was we had so much weight on the front end of the car,
03:00it would induce a lot of understeer, which means I'm getting really geeky out of this.
03:05No, you know what?
03:05I'm a motorsport car.
03:07I'm into my F1.
03:08Okay, so you understand.
03:09I think most people now, because of Formula One, the movie, and Drive to Survive,
03:14is that when you would turn into the car, I just couldn't get the grip I wanted.
03:18So you could really see me fighting.
03:20And I wanted to go as fast as possible.
03:23And then the first time, I didn't know the brake zones and how far I could push it.
03:27But I did it in three or four takes and didn't hurt the car at all.
03:31The only time I got in trouble was I was driving too slow and I hit the sidewall,
03:36and I just dung the rim.
03:39And they were looking and I was walking around the car,
03:41and everybody goes, what did you hit?
03:43And I was like, it was because I was going too slow.
03:45I wasn't paying attention.
03:46Yeah, but you're a Porsche guy, so they'll be fine with that.
03:48The Porsche people were fine.
03:49Exactly.
03:50I was like, you're their guy, right?
03:51Yeah, it was good.
03:52And it's a great car.
03:53It's a really good car.
03:54Oh, my God.
03:55Obviously, we talk about, you know, like the dimension stuff, like the memory thing.
03:58I mean, you yourself must have a great memory because you have to remember scripts and all
04:03of this kind of thing.
04:04Is there anything that you are terrible, though, at remembering?
04:06I couldn't remember.
04:07Like, I was just telling, we were just talking about, I had these really early interviews,
04:11and there were so many questions about, like, what music am I listening to right now?
04:15And everything escaped me.
04:17And I remember I was traveling, I think it was in Portugal, and I hadn't used my ATM card
04:24for such a long time, and I could not remember my code.
04:27But no one remembers that anymore.
04:28And then, you know, we have so many codes now for our streaming services that sometimes
04:34it's hard to remember them all.
04:35So I have to write them all down.
04:37So, yeah.
04:37Oh, my God.
04:38And then I go into panic mode of, like, am I developing something?
04:40But I've done my screening, and I, you know, one of the things is now there are a lot of
04:44tests
04:45that you can take to see if you have an issue.
04:49So I really recommend, and this goes into another thing, is really make sure you get your physicals,
04:54understand your family history, and be, you know, aware of that so that you can start to be
05:01working on preventative steps to help you live a longer, healthier life.
05:05Yeah, I always feel like that.
05:07Every time I walk into a room and I forget why I went in there or what I was meant
05:10to do,
05:10I'm like, oh, no.
05:11Right.
05:11It's my memory going already.
05:13I think because we have so much going on and sometimes if you're on Instagram or the news
05:20and you're thinking and you're not present, and I think there's so much more stimulation
05:25that we're all dealing with constantly.
05:27It's much harder to be present and not to be worrying about the future and the fear of that
05:34or the past and the regrets and to be present. I think it's one of the biggest challenges we have.
05:41We're not really teaching people those things anymore, you know, and I think those are things
05:46that are very important.
05:47I will say, Patrick, you are coping with everything remarkably well.
05:51You're a much stronger person than I am with everything that's happened recently,
05:54so I hope that you're doing okay.
05:57It was hard to get up this morning and to hear the news,
06:00but we tried to get Eric to come in to play the brother, Michael, and I had spoken to him
06:07and I had stayed in touch with him and I had texted him last week and was staying in touch.
06:12And I felt really sad that it was just his decline was so rapid that my heart really goes out
06:20to his children.
06:21Yeah.
06:22We have Eric in his beautiful state on the show and that memory of him will always be there
06:29and that's a beautiful thing. He was a beautiful man. He was an intelligent man, wickedly funny,
06:35and really a pleasure to work with and we've lost a very special man.
06:39Yeah.
06:39And his children and his loved ones have lost a man who was no longer with them and he's here
06:48with us in
06:48spirit and he's now at least in a peaceful place and it's the ones that he's left behind that are
06:55carrying the sadness of that.
06:56You know what? My feed was full of pictures of you and him together this morning and I just had
07:01the biggest lump in my throat seeing all of that. But this is all about, you know, memories and stuff
07:06and I hope you have some wonderful memories.
07:08I do have great memories and it was hard to, I was like, oh, do we cancel today? And I
07:12was like,
07:12no, that's not the responsible thing to do. We have to kind of go and do this. But if people
07:17were to spend
07:18time with Eric, they would love him even more so because yes, he was physically gifted and it's really
07:24ironic that he had this terrible disease that took all that away from him. But he was warm. He was
07:29incredibly vulnerable and funny and smart and he was so much fun to be around. We laughed a lot. We
07:37would always play and make fun of what was happening. And I want to keep those memories intact and
07:46those make me smile. And I'm glad I had time with him.
07:49Oh, that's made me smile because it's a difficult time.
07:52It is, it is.
07:53And I hope everyone around him is doing okay.
07:56Thank you. Thank you so much.
07:57Thank you so much, Patrick.
07:57My pleasure.
07:58Lovely to see you.
07:58Good to see you. Thank you.
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