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00:02They've been sent lots of congratulations flowers, which has been really lovely, but
00:06also checking in like, are you okay? Are you tired? Are you looking after your body?
00:10My god, I just got nominated for an Oscar. I'd be great, you know?
00:15Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's true. You're right. You're right.
00:26All that war and whatever the hell's you been doing in Chicago, and you back here in
00:33front of me, two arms, two legs, two eyes, and a brain that work, how you know I ain't
00:40pray? I work every route my grandmama taught me to keep you and that crazy brother, you're
00:46safe every day since you've been gone.
00:50Welcome to the actor's side today. I'm very excited to have an Academy Award nominated,
00:56Actor Award nominated, BAFTA Award nominated, and Critics' Choice nominated performer here
01:03from Sinners, who is just spectacular as Annie in this movie, and we're going to talk about
01:09it with Wunmi Masaku. Hi.
01:12Hi.
01:14Congratulations, all these nominations.
01:15Wow, it's incredible. It's kind of bonkers to hear it.
01:18Really?
01:19Yeah.
01:19Oh my god. I just told you just before we started, I was talking to your co-star, one
01:24of your co-stars, Delroy Lindo.
01:26Yeah.
01:27And I said, when I saw this movie, very early, I might have even seen it in March, it opened
01:33in April, but I saw it before. And so you go in kind of cold and I look at it
01:37and I go
01:38like, her. She's going to get a nomination.
01:41Oh, wow.
01:42And that was hard to call in April, but I thought your performance just was so amazing that it
01:50could not be denied.
01:51Oh, thank you so much.
01:53And I am so happy that I'm right.
01:55Me too.
01:58You know, did you know when you get a role like Annie, like, wow, I can do something
02:05with this. This is going to be impactful.
02:08Oh, it's so interesting. I didn't think of it like that at all. I thought about, like,
02:12my question is always like, can I deliver? Can I deliver what, you know, Ryan has put
02:17on the page and that has moved me already? I felt like there was so much I didn't know
02:23about her. Like, I didn't know anything about Hoodoo. I'd never heard of Hoodoo before.
02:27Just her as a woman, as a mom, as a partner, I just was like in kind of in awe
02:32of her.
02:33And I've never taken a role and thought, oh, I this is going to be the thing that gets
02:42me a nomination or I've never I've never thought about that. But it's always been like, can
02:46I fill those big boots? Am I going to get too scared? Like, because, you know, you've
02:52got Delroy Lindo, you've got Michael B. Jordan, you've got Ryan Coogler. It's like, I just
02:56I always want to feel like, can I, I really hope I step up to the plate, you know?
03:02And I have to, like, boil myself up a bit and be like, you belong here, you know?
03:08Exactly. When you just mentioned, you've got Delroy Lindo, you've got Ryan Coogler,
03:12you've got Michael B. Jordan. Yeah. But you have two Michael B. Jordans. Right.
03:19Yeah. So that's doubly there. Does that throw you off when you're working with an actor who's
03:25playing, you know, doing that little cinematic trick? Not at all. Honestly, he was so clear
03:31as day as both. And we had a stand in, Percy Bell, who was, who would wear the other characters
03:41costume and do the other lines. And so it was like we were just doing a regular scene.
03:46Oh, it is. And, you know, in rehearsal, Michael would kind of talk Percy through what he thought
03:53he was going to do, like his tempo, his intensity, what he's trying to do in the scene. So we
04:01had,
04:01we were just acting with the two of them. And then they would switch. And then the switch
04:06was a little harder because Percy wasn't there. And then we were listening to the scene.
04:11Oh, God. And like miming to the scene so that Michael could react. It was really hard for him.
04:16I really don't know how he did it. It's something that some actors have done through the course of
04:21time in motion picture history, you know, going way back when I had him here. I was talking about
04:26a movie I loved with Edward G. Robinson called The Whole Town's Talking, where he played
04:32a guy that's mistaken for identity and looks just like him. So he played two roles. Right.
04:38And, you know, but I thought it was so seamless. It seems so seamless. Yeah. It felt seamless. Like,
04:45I always say this. I could tell when Michael was smoked or stacked with my back turned. His whole
04:50energy was different. His cadence. Really? Oh, no, completely. With your back turned.
04:53Yeah. A hundred percent. Wow. Like, even on the camera test. And we were six days into rehearsal.
05:00I had only known him six days, really. We did our camera test as Smoke and Annie. He went off
05:06to change.
05:06I went off to change. I came back. And then I was doing my camera test on my own. And
05:10I turned around
05:11and my back was to the camera. And this energy came up to me. And I was like, who is
05:17this? Who is
05:17this stranger? I'm like, why are they coming up to me like this? And I turned around and I was
05:23like,
05:23oh, oh, hey, Stack. Hi. Like, it was I didn't even like I had, you know, I didn't know what
05:29costume
05:30Stack was in. I just knew that that wasn't Smoke. Wow. It was so clear. That's so cool. It was
05:35amazing.
05:35I really think he made it so easy for us. And I'm kind of in awe of how he did
05:40it because
05:41it felt seamless to us, even from the read through. Really?
05:45Yeah. He had two scripts. And I could hear the difference between Smoke and Stack.
05:50Wow. Like Stack has this kind of like, not a list, but he has something with his S that
05:55Smoke doesn't. And I was like, oh, I can hear the difference between them. And I closed my eyes
06:00and the read through. And I was like, yep, Smoke, Stack. Well, I can tell you on screen,
06:07when you're with Smoke, who's your ex, you know, basically kind of that's smoking hot stuff.
06:15It's well named Smoke, because I'm telling you, between the two of you, you just feel whatever
06:22that past was that we weren't privy to as an audience, only from your meeting with him
06:30when he comes back into town. How did you develop that chemistry? And I'm using the word chemistry
06:36because it comes off on the screen that way.
06:40You know, it was really we had rehearsal. Yeah. And our rehearsal was really kind of talking
06:49with Ryan, the three of us in the room, kind of sharing, like figuring out our history together,
06:55the timeline of it, but also like just building trust and vulnerability with each other.
07:02Yeah. I think Ryan and Michael's history really helped with that because they were just sharing
07:07really big, emotional, spiritual journeys they've been on. And so I saw that dynamic and felt safe
07:17enough to share my stuff, too. So we were just kind of sharing our hopes, dreams, fears, griefs,
07:23loves, challenges. And we just became, I think the three of us felt really in sync. And we could
07:33like create this like sacred space to kind of deal with child loss and grief and forgiveness,
07:42the coming back together. It was just really like Ryan was integral to that chemistry that was
07:50being built between us. I think, I don't know, I don't know. I've never really like figured out
07:55how we got there. We just, we just, that's just what we did.
07:59We just got there. We just got there. You know, it's interesting though. You had just
08:03become a new mother when this picture started. Yeah. I mean, really just like right then. And
08:08then you're off to the, to the races with this movie making. And when you're talking about child
08:14loss and all these other things inherent in, in, in the script and, and what you have to do,
08:20what was, what was that like? How did you get that in your head that, to do this?
08:24The thing about Annie is she's so, she's so grounded. She really, and her faith is so
08:30strong. I think that that was really like the thing that her purpose and her child's purpose
08:37and, and, and, and, and Smoke's purpose and, and accepting it, accepting all of the light,
08:45the dark and everything in between of being a mother, being a lover, being human. And so for me,
08:54it was more like, this is, this is someone to look up to as a mother, someone who can accept,
09:01like your child is going to feel pain. Your child is going to, there was, there is,
09:07life is going to happen to this child. And as much as you want to protect and shield you, you,
09:15life is life, you know? And so, yeah, I found it quite inspiring because I had spent those seven
09:22months before meeting Annie, trying to protect her from absolutely everything. You know, you do these
09:30things where you think your health, like my daughter would scratch herself with her nails
09:36and she would hate, she never like let me, um, chop her, her fingernails. And so I'd be like,
09:42okay, I'll wait an extra week before I chop them. But then I would put mittens on, but then the
09:47mittens would start rubbing here and you go, oh, like, and then she got a little scar here. And I
09:52was like, oh, this thing I thought I was protecting her from, there's just a lesson in everything. You
09:55can't protect and, and shield everything. And sometimes even in that love of wanting to protect,
10:02you can cause harm in another way. And there's just, it's actually just all lessons. And you go,
10:08okay, well, I learned from this and now I just have to chop her nails every week. She's going to
10:13have
10:14to learn how to stop scratching her face. And I'm going to have, like, we're going to have to work
10:17through this together. And so I don't know, like, I just found Annie really like, oh, she's accepting
10:25with such grace and, and love the most tragic and heartbreaking thing that could ever happen to
10:32your child. And she's doing it with this person and understanding his grief and hers and their loss,
10:39but, but truly understanding that child's purpose. Yeah. It's so, it's very moving. Yeah. There's so
10:48much in this movie. And by the way, you might've noticed that you're British here, that you're not
10:54from the deep South, that you are an actor here doing this brilliantly. And I think that's a British
11:03term you just did when you're talking about chopping fingernails. Yeah. I'd be scared to death
11:08coming. I'm going to chop your fingernails. Sorry. I should have said cook. It sounded really hot.
11:19No, I mean, so going into this Southern world here where you're very much not a part of in your
11:27own
11:27life, how difficult was that? Or has that come natural? I've seen so many British actors over
11:32the years playing great Southern roles. Olivier, everybody's done it. But, you know, what was that
11:38like for you? To me, it's always, I feel like I learned so much every, every character I play.
11:43Yeah. And so when I think about like characters, I've, American characters I've played in the past,
11:49I think, oh, I didn't, I didn't know as much as I know now. And so, and I know that
11:56when I,
11:57in five years time, 10 years time, I'm going to look back at Annie and go, I didn't know all
12:01of this
12:02either. And I have this real, I don't know, admiration and respect for African American history
12:13and my husband is African American. My daughter is African American. And so I feel this responsibility
12:18to learn myself. I feel like the great thing about Ryan is that he, he tells stories that makes you,
12:26that make you feel like connected culturally across the diaspora. And I think just in human,
12:32within humanity, because with the specificity, you get like, you get opened up, like just to humanity.
12:43And so for me, Annie was someone who actually made me feel closer, you know, to my Nigerian heritage.
12:52And she is this woman from the South, but she's so deeply connected to her purpose and her ancestry.
13:02And, and I feel like that's what he does so well. Like he, I think he did it amazingly with
13:07Black Panther,
13:09this, this, this unity, this kinship that was that kind of took over globally. And so it's interesting.
13:19It's not, I have a lot of reverence and like, and gratitude because I feel like African American
13:27history, um, and like the movements have been so integral to freedom all over the globe. I want to learn,
13:37I want to honor and, but it also makes me feel more connected to my motherland.
13:45I don't, it just does. It makes me remember what was taken, what was lost and what was,
13:54what has remained. That to me is the most powerful thing is what's been, what has been kept culturally
14:03in the food, in the language. It's an honor to represent and share those stories. Like,
14:13you know, and I think this has gone universal in its own way. You don't get 16 Oscar nominations,
14:18you know, uh, and no one gets that. This is the only movie that's ever gotten that, but, um,
14:24you know, become this giant box office hit, not based on any kind of IP, as they say in the
14:30business
14:30and things like that, an original story that somehow hit a nerve, you know, and obviously hit a nerve
14:37for you. Yeah. Being in it. 100%. I think about what I've learned from that set, from that character,
14:46from the people. Um, and then also like, I mean, those, those lessons I feel like I, I, I, I,
14:54I think
14:54about every single day, um, in regards to purpose, ancestry and like my role that are living right now
15:01and my purpose will do it, like how it will reverberate in the future. That is something
15:07that I think about almost daily now, but also I think on like a really like,
15:14just like industry level, just that this story that this R rated horror movie that was so like
15:23culturally specific, but just dealt with humanity and truth with integrity and, and creativity using
15:31blues and genre and just like incredible, like cinematography has just been so well received
15:39and loved. Yeah, so good. I just, I think it just makes you feel bold to try something new. Like,
15:45we don't have to just do, you know, like remakes and retakes, like we can do original and we can
15:53be
15:53specific. And it shows some payoff here for it, you know, when you do do that. Yeah.
15:58When the studios say, okay, to Ryan Coogler, go make your movie. Yeah. We won't interfere,
16:05but, and look what you deliver. But what is also new here for you, you mentioned hoodoo.
16:12You don't have a background in hoodoo. I didn't, I'd never even heard of hoodoo.
16:18Not, I hadn't either. Voodoo, yes. Hoodoo, no.
16:21Yeah. But, uh, hoodoo you think, uh, I mean, it's so weird to me, but how did you develop the
16:30research on that? Did you have a hoodoo, is there such a thing as a hoodoo consultant they hired?
16:35Yeah, uh-huh. Okay.
16:36Yeah, we had Miss Yvonne who also is a professor. Miss Yvonne.
16:39Yeah, she's also, she's credited in the movie. She's also a professor, she's a teacher, she's a healer.
16:44Um, yeah, I just, I knew nothing about it. And she taught, she's the one who told me that it
16:50was
16:50connected to Ifa, which is the Yoruba traditional spiritual, um, practice of divination system. And,
16:58and I had no idea. And so I am a Yoruba woman. Um, but I left when I was like
17:05one and a half and
17:06grew up in a very strict Christian household. My mom is like, has always kind of told me to stay
17:13clear. And she was a little bit nervous about me playing Annie and doing the research,
17:19because my mom knows that I'm someone who kind of dives in and, and then like, I'm, I am always,
17:25I feel like I'm always changed by the people I represent. I was a little bit dubious too.
17:31I hadn't heard of hoodoo, but I had assumed that it was kind of similar to voodoo and that I
17:35thought
17:35it was all kind of evil. I thought it was like what you saw on James Bond, what you see
17:39on like,
17:40you know, the crucible and the dolls and the, you know, and witchcraft and, but I've, you know,
17:47in the, in the learning about it, I, I realized how like, just like healing and purpose driven and
17:57powerful and ancestral, it was like the ancestral wisdom that has been passed down by these
18:05practitioners and the faith, their connectedness to the divine and their connected, connected,
18:14connectedness to the earth and their connectedness to their ancestry. It's like this beautiful,
18:19like balance of everything that,
18:25that matters.
18:26Yeah.
18:27You know,
18:28it sounds like you want to go in the hoodoo business now.
18:30No, I'm not, I truly love it. Like I really love it. And I, and I do, I actually was
18:36at an
18:37apothecary in New York and, and I was like talking to, um, uh, Miss Karen and I was like, I
18:44think I
18:45want to study this. Oh, I actually have a course.
18:47I was like, Oh, maybe I will. Maybe I should. Why not? Why not? I mean, why?
18:53We could have a spinoff of just, you know, the, it's so cool. You know, when I look at your,
19:00um,
19:02resume here, uh, filmography, um, uh, you, you've won the BAFTA award before you, one of only two
19:11actresses who's won since, uh, in the whole history of it, you know, in television, right?
19:16Uh, black actresses. Yeah. Black actresses. Yeah.
19:20Which is, uh, a sad statistic, but nevertheless, uh, you know, amazing.
19:26Yeah. Yeah.
19:28A lot of people are going to know you here in America, at least from Loki.
19:33Yeah.
19:34I mean, we love Loki.
19:36Yeah.
19:36Yeah. And all that whole Marvel world and Disney and all of that.
19:40Yeah.
19:41Was that fun to do?
19:42Oh, it was. It definitely was.
19:44Played B-15, Hunter B-15. Hunter B-15.
19:47It was very, uh, a new experience being on like one of those big movie sets kind of thing.
19:54It's so different.
19:56Like so much isn't, like I assumed everything was going to be green screen and not there,
20:00but actually like they have the budget to build it.
20:03Oh, wow.
20:03That's great.
20:04Yeah, it's quite nice.
20:07That's cool.
20:08And you got to do it, uh, reprise it in Deadpool and Voldemort.
20:12Yeah.
20:12In the biggest movies.
20:14Yeah.
20:14Yeah.
20:15Yeah.
20:15But Loki's where I actually first met Autumn.
20:17Autumn was our cinematographer on season one.
20:19Oh.
20:19Yeah.
20:20So it's like, it's been, it's amazing to kind of watch her journey as well.
20:24And to, for her to be the first woman of color.
20:27Autumn.
20:28Yeah.
20:28To be nominated.
20:29Amazing cinematographer.
20:30Yeah.
20:31She's incredible.
20:32Like, I was blown away by her work on, on Loki.
20:35I was like, how do you do, how do you do this?
20:38I've never really, I've not really paid attention to it.
20:42Right.
20:42But with her, I was like, I can see, it feels like a, it feels like you're painting a picture.
20:48I can, I can see you painting a picture with light.
20:51She's incredible.
20:52And that's what she did in Sinners.
20:54Yes.
20:55Yeah.
20:55Yeah.
20:56And of course nominated, everybody from Sinners is nominated.
20:59I mean, can you name one person that's not up for an Academy Award from this movie?
21:05It is an extraordinary kind of a situation there.
21:09Luther, which is a show I loved, Idris Elba.
21:13Yeah.
21:14Right.
21:15And I hear rumors that you may be working with Idris Elba.
21:19Yeah.
21:19I just wrapped with him.
21:20You just worked with him.
21:22Yeah.
21:22Yeah.
21:22He directed you.
21:23Yeah.
21:24And this is how it goes.
21:25He directed and starred in too.
21:27Yeah.
21:28Yeah.
21:28Yeah.
21:28So, wow.
21:30Yeah, that was fun.
21:31And what was that reunion like?
21:32Oh, amazing.
21:33He's so fun.
21:34He's so lovely.
21:35He's a good guy, but it was like, I had to really, I had to watch myself because I'm
21:43the kind of person who likes to ask like silly questions a lot on set.
21:47Like, I just want to get to know you.
21:48Like, what's your favorite cookie?
21:49What's your favorite, whatever.
21:51Okay.
21:51But he's my director and he has a lot of stuff to do.
21:54Yeah.
21:54So I was like, I was like, I don't really know what the boundaries are.
21:59So I'm going to stop.
22:00I'm not going to ask you the silly questions, but you might feel a bit left out.
22:05So like he and me and Charlie were doing all the silly questions and we got to know each
22:09of his family like, like, like this.
22:11Yeah.
22:11And Idris was like, I feel a bit left out.
22:13You can ask me the silly questions now.
22:15It's been too long.
22:16I want to know.
22:16He wants to know.
22:17Yeah.
22:18He's so lovely.
22:19Yeah.
22:19Yeah.
22:20Has he directed before?
22:21He has.
22:22Yeah.
22:22I think his first feature was Yardi, which was a while ago.
22:26Oh, okay.
22:27And I think he's done a few since, but yeah, this is, yeah.
22:31Well, that's going to be good.
22:32And of course, Lovecraft Country.
22:34Yeah.
22:35As Ruby.
22:36Yeah.
22:36Yeah.
22:37Yeah.
22:37That was another kind of sensation here.
22:41Yeah.
22:42I really, again, I always, Misha Green's mind is like quite extraordinary.
22:47I don't know how she did what she did.
22:50Yeah.
22:50I mean, sometimes, I mean, we were sometimes like, we don't get it, but we trust.
22:55Yeah.
22:56We don't get it, but we trust.
22:57And it, you know, some of those moments that we didn't get felt like the most powerful moments
23:03that people talked about, like that really hit them and hit us when we watched it.
23:07We're like, oh, now we get it.
23:10And what a cast that I had the honor of doing a Zoom.
23:15At the time, it was a Zoom.
23:17It wasn't live and in person with a lot of the cast members.
23:20Oh, yeah?
23:21Yeah.
23:21Aw.
23:22It was really interesting to do.
23:24I am really interested in this movie that you're in that Aaron Sorkin has directed called
23:31The Social Reckoning.
23:32Yeah.
23:33Which is the long-awaited sequel we never thought we were going to get to The Social Network.
23:53Uh-huh.
23:54What's going on?
23:55Yeah.
23:56I, I, it's really interesting because I don't really feel like it's a sequel in a way.
24:03Yeah.
24:04And I don't really know what I'm allowed to say, but it feels like, like the social network
24:09felt like a, this is how social media, this is how Facebook started.
24:14Right.
24:15And this feels like a real evolution of like where we are and, and, and what we were, what
24:21we expect of, of, of, of like movies now.
24:27Like it feels kind of like a, a commentary on like where we are because of social media.
24:33Oh, yeah.
24:33Yeah.
24:33You know?
24:34Okay.
24:34So it feels like.
24:35The Reckoning.
24:36Yeah.
24:36It feels like really present.
24:38It feels, the Jeopardy feels like, it can, it, I don't know, but sometimes it felt like,
24:46not like a thriller, but there was definitely like, oh my gosh, this is what we're living
24:50in guys.
24:51Wow.
24:52Like, what are we, what are we going to do?
24:55It's difficult when you make a movie, he's a genius, Aaron.
24:57But I mean, it's difficult when you make a movie like that's right on the zeitgeist
25:03about how fast things are changing.
25:05Yeah.
25:05That by the time we finally see that movie, we may be leaps and bounds beyond even his
25:11imagination.
25:12Yeah.
25:12That's true.
25:13That's definitely true.
25:14It makes me feel very uncomfortable.
25:16Yeah.
25:17What do you play in it?
25:18I don't know if I want to say.
25:19Can't tell me.
25:20I'm so curious.
25:22Yeah.
25:25I can't wait for that.
25:26Jeremy Allen White's in it.
25:28Yes.
25:28He plays a Wall Street Journal reporter.
25:30Yeah.
25:30Mikey Madison is in it.
25:32Yes.
25:33Wow.
25:33She's been so lovely.
25:34I must say she's been so supportive to me during this whole award season.
25:40She just went through it.
25:41She just went through it and like, she's been like checking in on me and sending me flowers
25:46and making sure that I'm okay.
25:48She's really lovely.
25:49Oh, that's nice.
25:50Really, really lovely.
25:51Do you need flowers to go through an award season?
25:56That is a very good question.
25:59No.
26:00Yeah.
26:00But they've been sending lots of congratulations flowers, which has been really lovely.
26:05But also checking in like, are you okay?
26:07Are you tired?
26:08Are you looking after your body?
26:09My God, I just got nominated for an Oscar.
26:11I wouldn't.
26:12I'd be great.
26:13Yeah, yeah, yeah.
26:16It's true.
26:17You're right.
26:17You're right.
26:19But it is true.
26:20This has been a long road for Sinners.
26:23Yeah.
26:23It opened way last April.
26:25Yeah.
26:26And so you've been living with this for a while.
26:29Yeah.
26:29And all these different awards.
26:31You get to go to the BAFTAs again.
26:34Yeah.
26:34On the movie side this time.
26:36Yeah, yeah.
26:37Which is great.
26:39And SAG's Actor Awards and all of that.
26:42And it must mean a lot because all of those awards, you got the Gotham Award as well.
26:47Yeah.
26:47Best Supporting Performance.
26:49Congratulations on that.
26:51But all of those awards are from your peers.
26:55Yeah.
26:55Yeah.
26:55They're voted on by other actors.
26:57Yeah.
26:57So that makes it special.
26:59It does.
26:59It feels really good.
27:00It feels, you know, every time I walk into a room and I see like my peers that I don't
27:07think of as my peers, I think of like these are people I'm inspired by.
27:12These are people I've watched my whole life.
27:14Right.
27:15And to know that they've watched the movie and that they love the movie and that they're
27:20rooting for us, it's just really quite overwhelming.
27:25I have felt a little bit starstruck a lot of the time.
27:29I don't normally get starstruck.
27:30I'm normally like, you know, nice to meet you.
27:33Yeah.
27:33But when people are being really positive and like giving you compliments, like people
27:41like, it just blows your mind that you've seen my work.
27:45Yeah.
27:46It's not just like, hi, nice to meet you.
27:47It's like, you've seen my work and you're taking the time to congratulate me and like,
27:53and give me my flowers.
27:55Yeah.
27:56Oh, we're back to flowers.
27:57Back to flowers.
27:59But it's really, really like, that's really overwhelming.
28:02That feels like I, I feel like I act like an absolute fool when I'm, I'm like, oh my
28:08God, oh my God.
28:09You know who I act?
28:10You've seen that?
28:11You've seen the movie?
28:12Whoa.
28:13Like that's how I.
28:14Power of cinema.
28:15Yeah.
28:16Yeah.
28:17Power of being in a movie.
28:18Everybody saw it.
28:18Yeah.
28:19Right.
28:19Right.
28:20Well, it's all well deserved.
28:22And there's so much that you have ahead of you too, which I love because we're going
28:26to get to watch you because that's another power too.
28:30Once you're, you know, getting all this kind of recognition.
28:33Yeah.
28:34People are going to start hiring you for a lot of great projects.
28:38I hope so.
28:39Have they done it yet?
28:41I mean, I worked on, on This Is How It Goes and The Social Reckoning.
28:44So that's it.
28:45I definitely feel like The Sinners was a part of that journey too.
28:48Okay.
28:48Like, cause they, they both had seen the movie.
28:50Yeah.
28:50Okay.
28:51So there you go.
28:52It's already working.
28:52It's already worked.
28:54Yeah.
28:54Which is nice.
28:54Well, have fun at the Oscars and all the others.
28:57And thank you so much for joining us today.
29:00Thank you so much.
29:02This was fun.
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