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00:00Here with us now is Paul Perez from the National Border Patrol Council. Great to have you here, Paul.
00:04That judge saying that the state's arguments about being punished by federal government's Operation Metro Surge, well, they just don't
00:11hold.
00:11What was your takeaway from this?
00:13Well, I mean, for one, great to see that there's no judicial activism.
00:18But again, it allows us to go in and surge as we need to.
00:22But like President Trump said, we may do a drawdown, you know, depending on what Tom Holman says.
00:27But it gives us the opportunity to make sure that our agents and officers are protected while they're fulfilling the
00:32mission of removing those people from the United States.
00:35Yeah, absolutely. Paul, this comes after the border czar Tom Holman.
00:37He went in there to Minnesota and he tried to calm the tensions here.
00:41Holman had this message for people opposing ICE and he said this. Watch.
00:45The hostile rhetoric and dangerous threats and hate must stop.
00:49And we all agreed to that.
00:51All everybody I met here today to tell you, we got to stop the rhetoric, the hateful rhetoric that has
00:56caused an increase in assaults.
00:57I begged for the last two months on TV for the rhetoric to stop.
01:04I said in March that the rhetoric didn't stop, there's going to be bloodshed.
01:09And there has been.
01:12I wish I wasn't right.
01:14I want to ask you how he handled that situation.
01:16You've got tensions on both sides.
01:18Holman goes in and he wants to calm those tensions.
01:21How do you think that those elected leaders in that state are now going to approach this situation?
01:26Look, he's absolutely right.
01:28They have to tone it down.
01:30You know, President Trump does not want anybody to get hurt, whether it's the protesters,
01:34whether it's the law enforcement officers.
01:37And they've got to do a reset.
01:38The rhetoric is dangerous.
01:40It has cost people their lives.
01:41It's gotten people to be arrested.
01:43It's gotten people hurt.
01:44And most of all, it's gotten our agents hurt.
01:47Not only that, you've got the agents that want to go into the jails that would make it a lot
01:50more safe.
01:51But now these agitators, they are agitators.
01:54There are some protesters, but a lot of them are agitators.
01:57And they are getting in the face of ICE agents.
01:59We've seen that, sadly, with Peretti.
02:01He went and he did it multiple times.
02:03It cost him his life.
02:04But I want to get this thought here from President Trump.
02:06He was asked about this and whether or not, if this continues,
02:09if they continue to get spit in their face, they get pushed, these ICE agents.
02:13Well, now President Trump says this is how they can respond.
02:15Watch.
02:17I said you're allowed, if somebody does that, you can do something bad.
02:21You're not going to stand there and take it.
02:23If somebody spits in your face, that will not be a pleasant thing for the person that spits.
02:28We're not letting people spit in our soldiers' face as they stand in attention and they're not allowed to do
02:35anything.
02:36We saw this play out in LA.
02:38We've seen this happen in Minnesota.
02:39How is this going to change the rhetoric here?
02:42President Trump wants his agents to be protected, but is this going to cause more chaos?
02:48Well, look, it just shows that President Trump has the back of law enforcement.
02:52And, you know, we know he's got our back, so we're going to be able to protect ourselves, protect our
02:57fellow agents.
02:58That's essentially what it comes to.
03:00Nobody should be impeding, interfering, but most importantly, assaulting a law enforcement officer.
03:05And there will be consequences.
03:07And we support his efforts to make sure that he puts it out there so that they know it's coming.
03:12Paul, I want to get your thoughts on this, because Governor Tim Walz says that, well, he wants safety in
03:16his community as well.
03:17He met with Bordeaux czar Tom Holman, and they agreed that they had a productive conversation.
03:22Then he goes on NPR, but he'd already made this comment about Gestapo.
03:27Watch.
03:29Donald Trump's modern-day Gestapo is scooping folks up off the streets.
03:34They're in unmarked vans, wearing masks, being shipped off to foreign torture dungeons.
03:39That was his comment.
03:40Then he was pressed again on NPR, where they wanted him to double down or potentially walk back that statement.
03:46Here's what he had to say.
03:47Watch.
03:48Well, I've never said anything other than to be peacefully protesting, and I'll stand by my words.
03:53I have to use the English language to describe what I'm seeing.
03:57So he did not walk back that Gestapo comment.
04:01What do you think he's going to do with this?
04:03Is he going to bend the knee to the Trump administration, or is he going to continue to make claims
04:07like this?
04:08I think he's too ignorant to do so.
04:10So it's that exact dangerous rhetoric that has caused our agents and officers to see an increase in violent assaults.
04:16You know, when you compare an agency like ours, where the majority of our agents are Hispanic, calling us Gestapo,
04:23comparing us to Nazis, that's ignorant.
04:25That's stupid.
04:26But more importantly, it's dangerous.
04:28Yeah, absolutely.
04:29Paul, I got to leave it there.
04:29Thank you so much for coming on, Paul Perez.
04:31Appreciate you as always.
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