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00:1330 seconds
00:1530 seconds is all it takes
00:24to change the world forever
00:30Michael Jackson was the biggest act in the world
00:34the idea of doing a Pepsi commercials this was a big deal
00:39we were just so excited that we were going to see Michael Jackson
00:43a horrific accident MJ ablaze
00:49he's coming down the steps and suddenly it was terrifying
00:58everybody screamed
01:00we were watching the world's number one pop star on fire
01:03TMZ has uncovered new never before seen footage of the 30 seconds
01:10that changed everything
01:13it's like up, Pepsi commercial, down
01:18he was addicted
01:20we didn't know just how bad it was
01:23the little boy I met in 1968
01:25I hate what happened to him
01:33TMZ presents Michael Jackson
01:3630 favorite seconds
01:45I really do believe
01:46that Michael would still be here today
01:49if he had not done the Pepsi commercial
01:52it was so stunning
01:56I think it was the turning point in his life
01:59oh it's like up, Pepsi commercial, down
02:0930 seconds
02:11that's all it took to change the life of Michael Jackson forever
02:15you are about to see in graphic detail
02:18how one misstep altered Michael's life
02:22and eventually ended it
02:2430 seconds
02:26on January 27th 1984
02:34in 1984 Michael Jackson was the biggest act in the world
02:42my name is Stephen Ivory and I am a music journalist and a Michael Jackson historian
02:48I was editing a little magazine called Black Pete
02:54he was the most famous man in the world
02:57musically he was just a juggernaut
03:01as a business he was a one-man industry
03:04and Michael was our bread and butter
03:07my name is Suzanne DePass and in 1984
03:09I was an executive with Motown Records
03:12and had worked with Michael when he was on the label
03:20I don't think that there are any words to describe the importance of Thriller
03:27not only as an album by an artist
03:30but in terms of the cultural impact that Thriller had
03:35and when Michael performed on our show Motown 25
03:39and did the moonwalk for the first time
03:42there's no way to describe the impact of Thriller on the culture
03:46on Michael
03:47on the entertainment business
03:49period
03:50I'm Mark Goodman
03:52I was an MTV VJ in 1984
03:56MTV
03:58music television
03:59video music
04:0124 hours a day
04:02Billie Jean was massive almost immediately
04:06because the video for it was unlike anything that people had seen before
04:14Billie Jean was just an opus for Michael Jackson
04:24and it was danceable as hell
04:27three or four weeks later
04:29beat it
04:30comes out
04:36both of those went to number one
04:37my name is Bill Katz
04:39I was the president and CEO of BBDO Advertising
04:42managing the Pepsi account
04:48The story of how Michael Jackson came to do Pepsi commercials was really
04:52he was kind of brought to us by his father via Don King, the boxing empresario
04:57and so he's going to be working with us
04:59this is going to be Don King, Catherine Jackson, Joseph Jackson presents the Jacksons
05:03at the time we were looking for a new way to position Pepsi against its arch enemy Coca-Cola
05:09and the best way that we had figured so far to do it
05:12was to position Pepsi as kind of the new generation drink
05:16versus Coke's kind of Americana drink
05:18remembering now that these are two basically brown sugar waters
05:21so the only distinctions between the two of them was how people felt about the brand
05:26ironically, there was someone else in the wings
05:30Quaker Oats made a bid to get involved
05:35they were pretty much where they were going to be the sponsor
05:38but Don King, he made a deal with Pepsi
05:45The negotiation of the deal actually came off pretty easily
05:48Joe and Don King had their number in mind
05:50it was five million dollars
05:51it was an unheard of sum at the time
05:54but Roger Enrico, the chairman of PepsiCo
05:56understood that this investment
05:58while wildly expensive
06:00was going to end up being well worth it
06:01It was extremely important to Pepsi
06:05to get involved with Michael Jackson
06:07because Coca-Cola was killing him
06:17Pepsi found, you know, the opportunity in working with Michael
06:23to look like the cool company
06:24you know, Michael was the biggest actor in the world
06:27and he drinks Pepsi
06:32Michael, near the beginning of the filming of the commercials
06:35decided he wasn't sure he really wanted to do it
06:37Mrs. Jackson went to the back stairs
06:39when Michael was still living with Mr. and Mrs. Jackson
06:41and yelled upstairs and said
06:43Michael, you come down here right now
06:44this nice person from Pepsi
06:46has a contract for you to do a commercial for Pepsi
06:48and you're gonna do it
06:50and Michael said, okay mother
06:51and that was that
06:54There were two commercials involved here
06:56two days of shooting each
06:57one was the first one
06:58the commercial whereby his brothers
07:00meet a group of kids who idolize Michael
07:02and their leader was played by Alphonse Ribeiro
07:09One of the things is that we had written a jingle
07:11for Michael when we wrote this commercial
07:13and Michael heard it and said, you know, it's okay
07:16but why don't you just use Billie Jean, my song
07:19and we said, oh, okay
07:21You're the Pepsi generation
07:25Girls are down and taste the thrill of the day
07:30And feel the Pepsi way
07:33That commercial went off without a hint
07:37The day the second commercial was filmed
07:39ended up being one of the most important days
07:42in Michael's life
07:43in a bad way
07:48The second commercial was shot at the Shrine Auditorium
07:51and it simply involved Michael joining his brothers
07:53for a performance version of the Pepsi version of Billie Jean
07:57You're the Pepsi generation
08:01I ended up at the Shrine Auditorium
08:04The place was filled with Jackson 5 fans
08:07and Michael Jackson fans
08:14The choreography of the commercial was that the brothers
08:17sans Michael, without Michael, would come out on stage
08:20to the adulation of the 5,000 extras
08:22and start singing the song
08:30Behind them was a curtain that parted to reveal steps
08:34and at the top of which was Michael
08:37and Michael would do a spin
08:38He would come down the steps
08:39He would join his brothers
08:41He would dance and sing
08:43to the Billie Jean song
08:45and that was the commercial
08:47That was the extent of the storyboard
08:49My name is Virginia Watson
08:51I was the extras casting coordinator
08:56for the Pepsi shoot with Michael Jackson
09:04We were just so excited that we were going to see
09:07you know, Michael Jackson and his brothers
09:10do this big ol' huge Pepsi commercial
09:13and we were going to be a part of it
09:21When I walked in to the Shrine
09:24The Jacksons were already on stage
09:26doing a take of this thing
09:28I watched them
09:34The crowd was going crazy
09:36Mike looked great
09:37What they wanted Michael to do
09:39was to make sure that he stayed in the middle
09:41because each one of those pyrotechnics
09:43although they were supposed to just shoot up straight like that
09:45they were maybe only like six feet each away from him
09:53The moment I knew something was wrong
09:56was literally in a split second
09:59It was that quick
10:00My reaction was an immediate sense of astonishment
10:04to panic
10:06Here we were watching the world's number one pop star
10:09filming one of our commercials
10:12you know, on fire
10:21He's coming down the steps
10:23and there's really nothing happening
10:26until he starts to spin
10:28That's when you see those flames
10:31Smoke is coming out
10:32Suddenly it was terrifying
10:37The degree of pain
10:40as well as damage
10:42not just to his physical self
10:46but to his emotional and spiritual self
10:49I think is beyond anything
10:51that we could calculate in conversation
11:08Here are the 30 fatal seconds
11:11that changed Michael's life
11:15Michael Jackson was shooting a Pepsi commercial
11:18in January 1984
11:20in front of thousands of fans
11:25It started as a celebration
11:28But, in an instant
11:30Michael turned into a human torch
11:33It was horrifying
11:36grisly
11:36and unforgettable
11:46At the time, no one knew the lifelong impact
11:50these 30 seconds would have
11:51on the biggest entertainer in the world
12:00When you see that take
12:03it doesn't look like much
12:06They've already done it a few times
12:08so we're hyped up about
12:09how they're gonna party and have fun
12:11Michael was revealed
12:13into shrieking fans clamoring for him
12:16He's coming down the steps
12:18and there's really nothing happening
12:21until he starts to spin
12:25That's when you see those flames
12:27Smoke is coming out
12:32Suddenly it was terrifying
12:36It was only a split second
12:37but that's all it took
12:39When pyrotechnics are involved
12:41and sparks are flying
12:42timing makes all the difference
12:49The pyrotechnics went off
12:51but they came this way
12:52and it just caught him
12:53right in the back right here
12:58We saw these flames come up behind his head
13:01and the pyrotechnics were already done
13:04He came down the steps
13:09He was spitting
13:11He was being rushed by his brothers
13:14I think he called for Tito
13:15but he was rushed by everyone
13:17Bodyguards, stagehands, other crew members
13:19If it wasn't for Marlon and Tito running down
13:22then Michael didn't even know he was on fire yet
13:24He didn't
13:27And he was very, very quickly
13:29taken off the side of the stage
13:31and whisked off
13:32Everybody screamed
13:34People were crying in the audience
13:51It kind of felt like someone was assassinated
13:55I ran backstage
13:57and what I saw back there
13:59was absolute chaos
14:01People really didn't know what to do
14:03The critical issue
14:05On that last take
14:07Michael was standing on that top step
14:10as the fireworks went off
14:11setting his hair on fire
14:13That was different from the previous five takes
14:16where Michael began walking
14:18before the fireworks exploded
14:20The question
14:21Did Michael make that decision to hesitate
14:24on his own
14:26or did somebody else tell him to do it?
14:29I watched every take
14:31and on the last take
14:32Michael had no time
14:33to move away from the explosion
14:35He told me yesterday
14:37that he was directed by
14:39Bob Giraldi in the final take
14:41to remain alongside the fireworks
14:43until after the explosion
14:45Michael also told me
14:47that he didn't have any oil
14:49or hairspray on his hair
14:51His hair was sprayed with water
14:53which probably kept the fire from spreading
14:55and causing even more injury
14:57He stayed in a position
14:59where he wasn't normally
15:00in the previous takes
15:02The director gave me some instructions
15:04and I overheard this
15:06To stand there longer
15:08you'll look more majestic
15:09They had a stretcher there
15:12They put Michael in it
15:14and uh...
15:18He was in pain
15:21My reaction was
15:23without being too verbose about this
15:25holy defecation
15:30They wheeled the stretcher out
15:33Michael
15:34You know, in his everlasting
15:38way of promotion
15:41managed to have
15:43his glitter glove up
15:45out from under the sheets
15:47that they had covered him with
15:48That is the picture
15:50that went around the world
15:52A confident Jackson waved
15:54to a small group of fans
15:55from the ambulance
15:56as he traveled from one hospital
15:58to another
15:58At Brotman Burn Clinic
16:00an even larger crowd awaited him
16:02so much so
16:03that attendants
16:04had considerable difficulty
16:05getting him into the facility
16:07My name is Patricia Lavalas Howe
16:10I was a nursing supervisor
16:12at Brotman Medical Center Burn Unit
16:17Everyone was very concerned
16:19because it was Michael Jackson
16:21He was transferred
16:22and brought immediately
16:24to the burn unit
16:25His physician arrived
16:27and gave us orders
16:28to how, you know
16:29how he wanted the wounds treated
16:31I'm Dr. Harry Glassman
16:32I've been in private practice
16:34of plastic surgery
16:35in Beverly Hills
16:36for the past 50 years
16:37Having treated burn patients
16:40the degree of the burn
16:41is dependent upon two things
16:43One is the intensity of the source
16:45and the other is the duration
16:47of the exposure to the source
16:49When I saw the video
16:51of Michael's injury
16:52one of the things that impressed me
16:54was the duration
16:55Even though people made an effort
16:56to put it out
16:57as quickly as possible
16:59his scalp was on fire
17:01for quite a bit of time
17:03Michael sustained a third degree burn
17:06to the top of his head
17:08and it was about the size
17:10of the palm of your hand
17:11At a future time
17:13it required some surgery
17:15to repair the area
17:17after the wound had healed
17:22It must have been an extremely painful experience
17:24for him
17:25I'm sure that
17:26Michael would have described the pain
17:28as a 10 on the 10 scale
17:30Stand back!
17:32Stand back!
17:33Stand back!
17:33Good!
17:34Here we go!
17:35Obviously he was sent home
17:36with an opioid
17:37in order to control his pain
17:38at home
17:39the degree of pain
17:43as well as damage
17:45not just to his physical self
17:48but to his emotional and spiritual self
17:52I think is beyond anything
17:54that we could calculate in conversation
17:58I think it was that deep
17:59All the things that happened after that
18:02for Michael
18:02the fallout of him
18:05all started right there that day
18:08with that
18:14We ended up having maybe
18:16the most famous commercial
18:17of the decade
18:18as I say maybe of the century
18:20I'm surprised he didn't end up owning Pepsi
18:23after that
18:44We ended up not only debuting this on MTV
18:48but having an entire special by MTV
18:50devoted to the making of
18:52the Michael Jackson Pepsi commercial
18:53For the first time anywhere in the world
18:55we'll show you Michael Jackson's Pepsi commercial
18:58My recollection is that he wanted this to be released
19:02This had gone from a pop commercial about soda
19:05to a worldwide event
19:07and Michael was at the center of it
19:09and I think he truly liked the idea
19:11that this kind of thing was going to be released
19:13that people were going to be amazed by it
19:15and enthralled with it
19:17and he liked that
19:18I think he thought that that was good for his career
19:20and we ended up having maybe the most famous commercial
19:23of the decade as I say maybe of the century
19:27You're the Pepsi generation
19:32Cause the diamond does the freedom today
19:35It aired, while not intended originally
19:39it aired internationally for free
19:41all over the world
19:42and did the accident have anything to do with it?
19:46Are you kidding?
19:48It had quite a bit to do with it
19:49As much as we'd like to say
19:50that our creative genius
19:51in making those two commercials
19:53spoke on its own
19:54the idea of burning Michael Jackson's hair
19:56certainly contributed immensely to it
19:58and everyone was talking about it
19:59not just because of the commercial itself
20:01but because of what had happened
20:02in the filming of it
20:04Last night, at a glittering bash
20:06at the Museum of Natural History
20:08Jackson had recovered enough
20:09from the burns he received
20:10filming a commercial last month
20:12to accept congratulatory telegrams
20:14from President Reagan
20:15I'm surprised he didn't end up owning Pepsi
20:18after that
20:19because of how severe it was
20:21but I believe that every single aspect of his life
20:24was impacted on that day
20:27and not in a good way
20:29in a very tragic, sad, horrible way
20:35breaks my heart
20:39There was a negotiated settlement with Michael
20:42which by the way went to charity
20:44and part of that negotiated settlement was that
20:47that take would never be released
20:48that that take would stay as a property of Pepsi-Cola forever
20:52That footage has been kept a closely guarded secret
20:55It happened quite a while ago
20:57many more important things in the world have transpired since then
21:01and I think we should go on with life
21:04It wasn't until, I guess, about 10 years ago
21:07that somebody got their hands on that thing
21:09and released it
21:10so somehow, some way
21:12it came out of the Pepsi vault
21:13and got released
21:15After the Pepsi incident
21:18he was active
21:19he was busy
21:21but he didn't seem to be as happy
21:25as I remember Mike to be before that
21:28he was always a careful human being
21:31he was always cautious
21:33he was always warm
21:35and he was still warm
21:37but there was something about his warmth
21:39that seemed controlled
21:42The injury that Michael sustained
21:45shooting that Pepsi commercial
21:48really had far-reaching effects
21:51because of his continued pain
21:55as it turns out
21:56what kind of crazy, ironic, insane world is this?
22:01that that moment
22:02for Michael Jackson
22:04the superstar
22:05the person
22:06the human being
22:08that was exactly
22:09the middle of his life
22:11to the day
22:12so it's like
22:14up
22:15Pepsi commercial
22:16down
22:26I think there was likely
22:29a sad conspiracy
22:32between Michael and his doctors
22:34Opioids
22:35combined with celebrity
22:37that's a nasty combination
22:39that's a really bad formula
22:40for addiction
23:07I believe that the Pepsi commercial
23:10was what led to the downfall
23:12of Michael
23:13My name is Brian Panish
23:15and I represented the Jackson family
23:17in the wrongful death case
23:19against AEG
23:22He underwent extensive plastic surgery
23:24skin grafting
23:26where they took skin
23:27from another part of his body
23:28to fix the areas that were damaged
23:31The performer's personal physician
23:32says Jackson's injuries
23:33could have been much worse
23:35We'll give him the opportunity
23:36to heal as much of it as he can
23:38he may require some
23:39reconstructive surgery in the future
23:40but that's not determined
23:41at this time
23:43He had severe pain
23:45he had debilitating pain
23:47he had neuropathic pain
23:49which is nerve pain in the scalp
23:51the pain led to anxiety
23:53it led to really most importantly
23:55loss of sleep
23:56the pain
23:57the inability to sleep
23:59the inability to sleep
24:00the inability to sleep
24:00causes the pain to be worse
24:02As a solo artist
24:03when he left Motown
24:05and he had Off The Wall Bad and Thriller
24:08he was in total command
24:10of everything he did
24:11and he made the most brilliant decisions
24:13he never ever got over that
24:15he had to take pills
24:16he had all these burns
24:18there and then he had ballooning
24:20ballooning is when you expand the scalp
24:22till the day he died
24:23he was doing ballooning
24:25his scalp was reconstructed
24:26using tissue expanders
24:28now tissue expanders are basically
24:30balloons that are inserted
24:33under the scalp
24:34and then at weekly intervals
24:36those balloons are inflated
24:38using saline
24:40that's also quite painful
24:42I think that post the Pepsi commercial
24:45obviously he had to have plastic surgery
24:48initially to help to treat those wounds
24:50somewhere in the course of that
24:52not only was he doing that kind of surgery
24:55on that wound on the back of his head
24:57he also was able to toss in a nose job
25:03he had a couple of nose jobs
25:05but at some point
25:08like many people do
25:10in this business
25:11and in this town
25:12who deals with cosmetic surgery
25:14it's painful
25:16but when you get past that pain
25:19and when you heal
25:21you say
25:22man
25:23I can do other things
25:25and
25:26many people become addicted
25:28to
25:29plastic surgery
25:31and I think that Michael
25:34at some point
25:35developed a penchant
25:37for having things done
25:38he came to see me
25:41after he'd had
25:41many
25:42plastic surgical procedures
25:44and he wanted more
25:45and
25:46I did the courtesy
25:48of
25:48discussing it with him
25:50and examining him
25:51and I
25:51discouraged him from
25:52pursuing any further
25:53plastic surgery
25:54I was very concerned about
25:55the viability of his nose
25:57after having so many
25:58nasal surgeries
25:59so I met with him
26:00quite a while
26:01and he pressed the issue
26:03he
26:04he really didn't accept
26:05no for an answer
26:06he really went on and on
26:07about
26:08the need to do so
26:09and so in the end
26:11I think he
26:11ended the conversation
26:13by telling the assistant
26:14that he didn't like me
26:16which I took as a great compliment
26:18when you look in the mirror
26:20are you happy with what you see?
26:22in what way?
26:23just when you look there
26:24in terms of that social philosophy
26:27I'm never totally satisfied
26:29I always wish the world could be a better place
26:31um
26:32never known at all
26:36just before Christmas 1993
26:38in the middle of a civil lawsuit
26:40in which a boy alleged the singer had molested him
26:44Michael addressed the country
26:46denying the allegations
26:48he also addressed his drug abuse
26:51triggered by those 30 consequential seconds
26:54nine years earlier
26:56as you may already know after my tour
26:58ended I remain out of the country
27:00undergoing treatment
27:01for a dependency on pain medication
27:04this medication was initially prescribed
27:07to see the excruciating pain
27:08that I was suffering
27:10after recent reconstructive surgery
27:12on my scalp
27:12it was a well known fact
27:14that he was using painkillers
27:16to get through a day
27:18to get through a project
27:20it was well known
27:21and it came from the Pepsi burn
27:28no question about it
27:31it's very easy
27:33to get addicted
27:34to any opioid
27:36you can become addicted to opioids
27:39very very rapidly
27:40in some instances
27:41after one dose
27:43come on guys
27:46come on
27:47I began to wonder
27:48whether Michael's pursuit
27:50of these many surgical procedures
27:52these many plastic surgeries
27:54was a
27:55did he really want to have surgery
27:57or was he really interested in the drugs
27:59he may have succumbed
28:00to the idea of having surgery
28:02simply because of the secondary gain
28:04the secondary gain was
28:05being put to sleep using propofol
28:07and being given prescription for medication
28:10for post-operative pain
28:12he was very persuasive
28:16very persuasive
28:17if he wanted something
28:19and I think there was likely
28:23a sad conspiracy
28:25between Michael and his doctors
28:28because I just knew him
28:30to be in wonderful ways
28:35in the relentless pursuit
28:37of a vision
28:38or in his craft
28:40his music or his dance
28:42but that same energy
28:44I think sadly
28:47not because
28:49he was
28:50trying to manipulate
28:51for the sake of that
28:53but because
28:54he was in
28:56pain
28:57and was searching
28:59for
29:00relief
29:01the patient shouldn't be the one
29:04telling the doctor
29:05the drugs that they should have
29:07the doctor should be in charge
29:08and I think in this case
29:10Michael became the one
29:12that was in charge
29:13and the doctors whatever
29:14he had asked
29:15they were giving in
29:16violating their rules
29:18that they should follow
29:19and continue to contribute
29:21to the addiction
29:22and not helping it
29:27Opioids combined with celebrity
29:29that's a nasty combination
29:30that's a really bad formula
29:32for addiction
29:33I've seen it all too often
29:35that celebrities get their way
29:37with doctors
29:38and certainly I think that was the case
29:40for Michael
29:41there were a number of doctors
29:43who crossed the line
29:45but one in particular
29:46may be responsible
29:47for Michael Jackson's demise
29:49and it isn't Conrad Murray
29:52who was prosecuted
29:53for Michael's death
29:54it was another
29:56very famous MD
30:02he was using multiple aliases
30:05in a pharmacy in Beverly Hills
30:06so as to disguise
30:08or to hide
30:09the amount of drugs
30:10that were being prescribed
30:11for Michael
30:27how's it going Michael?
30:29are you going on tour?
30:31in London huh?
30:32how you doing Michael?
30:33Michael definitely was into doctor shopping
30:37and he did go to multiple different facilities
30:39and multiple different doctors
30:41in Hollywood especially
30:43doctors love to be associated with a winner
30:46they love to say
30:48these are my clients
30:50so to have Michael Jackson
30:52as your client
30:54if you're a doctor
30:56on every level
30:57it ups your game
30:59Michael had to realize
31:02the impact that a celebrity was having
31:05on all these doctors
31:05so Michael used his celebrity
31:08to get doctors
31:10to do what he wanted them to do
31:13doctors have an ethical obligation
31:16to do the right thing by everyone
31:18do no harm
31:18above all else
31:19do no harm
31:20and in this case
31:21those dots connected
31:23all lead to harm
31:24those dots led directly
31:26to a very famous dermatologist
31:29who practiced
31:29in the heart of Beverly Hills
31:32Dr. Arnold Klein
31:34his patient list
31:35was a who's who of Hollywood
31:37he loved being around celebrities
31:40in particular
31:41Michael Jackson
31:43Arnold Klein for years
31:44had treated Michael Jackson
31:46he had been to his office
31:48many many times
31:49had been giving him anesthesia
31:51whether it be propofol or other things
31:53he had also prescribed other drugs
31:55throughout his life
31:56they had a close relationship
31:58Arnold Klein had issues
32:00of boundaries
32:02and it's so important that a doctor
32:03maintain those boundaries with the patient
32:06and in this case that didn't occur
32:08in the months before Jackson's death
32:10Michael showed up to Dr. Klein's office
32:13almost every day
32:14when he walked out
32:16he looked completely out of it
32:18we found out later
32:20Klein had been shooting him up
32:22every day
32:23with the powerful opioid Demerol
32:26he tried to justify it
32:28shortly after Michael's death
32:30I administered Demerol
32:32because you have to understand
32:33that the procedures I do
32:34are painful injections
32:35and I would give him
32:36I would say
32:37I would take an hour and a half
32:38to inject him
32:39and I would do somewhere around
32:41oh well over a hundred facial injections
32:43on him
32:44what I used drugs for
32:45was not to give him drugs
32:46I used drugs to relieve the pain
32:48when I did a procedure
32:49so we have to make a big difference
32:51if you're having a surgical procedure
32:53and these are really minor surgical procedures
32:56and with my length of time
32:57it takes me to do it
32:58it's not minor
32:58you have to use some amount of drug
33:01I was one of Arnold Klein's first patients
33:06when he opened his practice back in the day
33:09and knew him very well
33:14he developed quite an illustrious celebrity group of patients
33:19and I think that he just enjoyed the proximity
33:24and being known as the doctor to the stars
33:27you could go into his waiting room
33:31and no telling who you would see in there
33:33waiting for their appointment
33:35and then if you were really famous
33:37you didn't wait
33:38you just got ushered into a room
33:40Dr. Arnold Klein and I
33:42we were friends
33:43we were medical associates
33:45we treated many of the same patients
33:47when I learned after Michael's death
33:49the way Arnie Klein was treating Michael
33:51it was disgraceful
33:53it's just basically Arnie Klein succumbing to Michael's
33:59I wouldn't say Michael's needs
34:00but he's certainly patronizing Michael
34:03I don't have many friends
34:04you know that
34:04my friends are my patients
34:06I mean my patients are my patients 24 hours a day
34:09you know they call me 3 o'clock in the morning
34:10they call me 4 o'clock in the morning
34:11so I'm telling you
34:12when you say what I do is medicine
34:14the practice of medicine
34:16I think that you do blur the lines
34:18because you're available 24 hours a day
34:207 days a week
34:20I don't think there's any question
34:22that Michael was drug addict
34:23I made two personal interventions on it
34:25remember that
34:26I got him off drugs twice in my lifetime
34:28so there was an ongoing problem with him
34:30in the use of drugs
34:31now when you're rich
34:33and you're famous in America
34:34you can get anything you want
34:36I do know that in Arnie Klein's case
34:38he was using multiple aliases
34:40in a pharmacy in Beverly Hills
34:42so as to disguise or to hide
34:44the amount of drugs that were being prescribed for Michael
34:48I think it's actually illegal
34:49to use an alias to write a prescription for Demerol
34:53or other opioids
34:55and that was certainly being done in Michael's case
34:58many many times over
34:59with many different aliases
35:01well I mean I think
35:03having 19 aliases shows the problem that exists with opioid
35:07and the addictions to it
35:08and how people will do anything they can to get it
35:11but in this case the doctors
35:13blurred the boundaries and allowed this to occur
35:16we the jury in the above entitled action
35:19find the defendant
35:20Conrad Robert Murray
35:22guilty of the crime of involuntary manslaughter
35:26the doctors did not uphold their oath
35:29and do no harm to the patient
35:31as they're supposed to
35:32and contributed and helped this downfall
35:36or downslide use of narcotics
35:39he has this Pepsi commercial where he severely burned
35:42and after that
35:43he started developing this addiction
35:45and then you put into that the anxiety
35:49the pain
35:50the flashbacks
35:51the post-traumatic stress disorder
35:53it was a very hard run to hoe
36:01and without proper medical assistance
36:03I don't think it was possible for one individual to do that
36:06I think that Michael is almost blameless in this situation
36:10he's an addict
36:10he's dependent physically
36:13he's dependent psychologically on the drugs
36:15and people keep giving it to him
36:17the fault rests with the medical community
36:20that failed to get him into the hands of a specialist
36:23who could have freed him from his addiction
36:29my feeling is that
36:31the little boy I met in 1968
36:35was so special
36:36and I hate what happened to him
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37:31I will not be able to tell you that
37:34I only know that everyone is trying
37:35and it's very sad
37:37Michael! Michael! Michael! Michael! Michael! Michael! Michael! Michael!
37:41I turned on the TV
37:43and
37:48I, you know, I just couldn't, I couldn't believe it
37:51and it was TMZ that was announcing that Michael had passed
37:59and
38:05I mean it's still
38:07I just
38:09I just couldn't believe it
38:11I just couldn't believe it
38:12TMZ was the first to report news
38:15of Jackson's death
38:27there's no question in my mind
38:29that the burn the Pepsi commercial
38:31and the burns that he sustained
38:33was a real
38:35turning point in Michael's life
38:38I can see where all the dots are connected
38:41in Michael's life
38:42you know there's the burn
38:43and then there's the pain medication
38:45there's the reconstructive surgery
38:48and then there's more opioids
38:49more narcotics
38:50then more cosmetic surgery
38:52more experiences with propofol
38:54and what propofol can do
38:55obviously not in an operating room
38:57in this situation
38:58but perhaps I can use this
38:59in my life to gain sleep at home
39:01clearly that precipitated
39:03more surgeries
39:04more exposure to surgery
39:05maybe reconstructive surgery
39:07as well as cosmetic surgery
39:08and more narcotics
39:09more analgesics
39:11more propofol
39:12and I think it's a great tragedy
39:13one has to wonder
39:14what the trajectory
39:15of Michael's life
39:16would have been like
39:17had he not been burned
39:18in January of 1984
39:23the website TMZ reports
39:26LA police have concluded
39:27that Dr. Conrad Murray
39:28who was with Jackson
39:29when he died
39:30may have administered
39:31a fatal dose
39:32of the powerful anesthetic
39:34propofol
39:34the website reports
39:36that propofol will be listed
39:37as the primary cause of death
39:39Conrad Murray just didn't
39:41come on the scene
39:42and start giving propofol
39:43we know about Arne Klein
39:44we know about what happened
39:45in the past
39:46and I guess that somebody
39:48the last man standing
39:49Conrad Murray
39:50was there present
39:51when he died
39:52clearly his inadequate medical care
39:55led to Michael Jackson's death
39:57my reaction
39:59once all of the facts
40:01came out
40:01and once we realized
40:02what that slope was
40:05from that moment
40:06shooting that commercial
40:08and to find out
40:10that doctors
40:11were abusing their license
40:13what it said to me
40:15was I angry
40:17I think I was more sad
40:19because it really just underscored
40:21a horrible fascination
40:24that people have
40:26wanting to be close to fame
40:34I've always believed
40:36that if Mike had never done
40:41the Pepsi commercial
40:43nothing against Pepsi
40:45but if he had never had
40:49the Pepsi endorsement
40:50which led to the commercial
40:52which led to the burn
40:56that Michael would still be here
40:58today
41:01my feeling
41:03is that
41:04the little boy I met in 1968
41:18was so special
41:25and I hate what happened to him
41:27and I hate what happened to him
41:50and I hate what I was saying
42:20and I hate
42:20and I hate it
42:20You
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