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After a frantic 911 call, EMTs and sheriff’s deputies rush to save the life of a mother who suddenly stopped breathing. A tense scene unfolds in real-time when her partner refuses to cooperate with police.
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00:139-1-1, what is the address of the emergency?
00:16Yes, I need an ambulance. 3028, no road.
00:19Tell me exactly what happened.
00:21My girlfriend's not breathing.
00:23Okay, stand on mine with me, okay?
00:25We've got help on the way.
00:27Nicole!
00:32Okay, listen carefully.
00:34Pump the chest hard and fast, at least twice per second and two inches deep.
00:39Start now.
00:43Count out loud so I can count with you.
00:46One, two, three, four.
00:57One, two, three, four.
01:01Keep going, don't stop.
01:04One, two, three, four.
01:07One, two, three, four.
01:24Female not breathing.
01:25She's got no pulse.
01:26We have someone take a bag for him, and Chris is going to get on the chest here.
01:40I'm OK, they're still giving CPR.
01:53Affirmative, 410.
02:00Anyone know what happened to her right now?
02:02I have no idea.
02:03OK, I didn't know if you guys had a call or something.
02:05Who is this?
02:07I don't know her name.
02:21What's her name?
02:22Nicole.
02:23What's her name, sir?
02:24Tom.
02:25OK, what happened?
02:26How did you guys...
02:28We were arguing.
02:30She said she wasn't feeling great.
02:31She fell over on the floor.
02:33I need you outside with me, OK?
02:34I want to be with my kids.
02:35I understand that, but I need you outside.
02:37Well, I'm not leaving my kids, sir.
02:38Sir, I need...
02:40Sir, come on, come on.
02:42It's going to be OK.
02:43I just need to talk to you, OK?
02:44I need to figure out what's going on.
02:48Look, I...
02:50Can you wait?
02:51Can I be with my kids from here?
02:53Sir, I need to...
02:54Listen, I'm trying to figure out what is going on so I can...
02:56I told you as much as I can.
02:57Can I please have a moment with my kids and try to get a hold of somebody for my kids?
03:00OK, OK.
03:06Is that your wife or their mom?
03:09That's...
03:09That's their mom?
03:10My brother and my family name, yes.
03:12I need your help with this so we can help her.
03:14Can you give me a minute?
03:15Can you leave me alone, please?
03:17Janelle.
03:22He's being completely uncooperative.
03:23They were arguing and he said she just fell over.
03:26Where is he?
03:26Right here.
03:28Sir, we need to talk to you.
03:30Sir.
03:33OK.
03:34I know you're going through a lot, but we have to talk to you to get some ideas of what's
03:38going on, OK?
03:40Sir.
03:40Can you leave me alone, please?
03:42No.
03:49Sir.
04:06Ma'am.
04:07Can you please stop that?
04:09I asked.
04:10I asked to give me a minute, please.
04:11Listen.
04:12I'm trying to figure out what's going on.
04:14I just asked for you to give me a minute.
04:14So you can stop.
04:15No.
04:16I just asked for you to give me a minute.
04:17That's the first thing I asked him.
04:18OK.
04:19I didn't have a chance to call nobody.
04:21I was trying to get my kids.
04:22OK.
04:23I got you guys here.
04:24I've been trying to get...
04:25Shut your mouth.
04:26We're trying to understand...
04:26Can you please not talk to me like that?
04:28How about listen to me?
04:29I have not listened to you.
04:30Will you please listen to me?
04:31I'm trying to talk to you.
04:32I'm trying to talk to you.
04:33And I'm trying to be nice about it.
04:35I'm trying to figure out so we can help the EMTs, so they can understand what's going on.
04:39What does she use?
04:41I told you what's going on.
04:42She said she wasn't feeling good.
04:43She fell over.
04:46410, are you still en route here?
04:47This mail is completely uncooperative.
04:57That's probably what's going to happen.
04:59SO4, he's given the name of Nicole Booth.
05:02They were arguing a little bit ago.
05:04And then she fell out.
05:10Okay, sir.
05:11I need you to come with me.
05:12Now.
05:13Stand up.
05:14Please, sir.
05:15Stand up.
05:16Please, sir.
05:16Outside.
05:17Come on.
05:22Outside.
05:27You need to take a seat.
05:30Okay.
05:31Listen.
05:32Please don't do this before my kids let me...
05:34Listen.
05:34Let me talk to my...
05:35You need to calm down.
05:37I'm trying to calm down.
05:39I'm trying to help the EMTs so they could save Nicole.
05:42I told Nicole.
05:42Okay.
05:42What happened?
05:43How did she end up on the floor?
05:45I told you.
05:45We took a shower.
05:46She wasn't feeling good.
05:47We took a shower.
05:48We went out to the couch.
05:49She said she wasn't feeling good.
05:51She got down on the floor and she fell over.
05:55I tried getting her up.
05:56I got some water.
05:57I threw some water on her.
05:58She didn't wake up.
05:59Okay.
06:00You need to stand up.
06:01Stand up.
06:02Can you take these off?
06:03No.
06:03Absolutely not.
06:04Please.
06:05Absolutely not.
06:06I need to get my hands over my head to give breath.
06:08Please.
06:08What's the phone number we can call for someone to be here?
06:11I don't know phone numbers, sweetie.
06:13They're holding my phone.
06:13Give me a name.
06:15I...
06:15She knows how to work your phone.
06:17Give me a name.
06:17I was calling my sister.
06:19Okay.
06:19You have to understand.
06:20We're trying to figure out what's going on as well.
06:23You have to be cooperative.
06:25You know what?
06:26I am being cooperative.
06:26Well, you weren't.
06:27Give me a name.
06:28You're not telling us anything because you're here to help your kids.
06:30Sir.
06:31I'm not walking away.
06:31I'm just trying to sit out, man.
06:32Have a seat right there.
06:34We're not going to deal with this nonsense.
06:36I'm not dealing with nonsense.
06:39So you're telling me you guys were in an argument and she magically just fell and passed
06:43out right there.
06:45So far, we have a 21.
06:47Still trying to figure out what's going on here.
06:49Listen.
06:50Oh, please.
06:50Listen.
06:51What is your name?
06:53It's Tom.
06:54Okay.
06:54Tom what?
06:56Craley.
06:57Craley?
06:58Okay.
06:58What does she use?
07:02What does she use?
07:04You need to tell me so I can help her.
07:06We need to know what she used.
07:10You're not going to tell us?
07:11Then you'll go to jail because you're uncooperative.
07:14You need to stop.
07:15Sit up.
07:16I need to stop.
07:17You're going.
07:17I'm so tired of myho.
07:18I'm so tired of myho.
07:18You are going to fall off the steps, then you're going to hurt yourself.
07:20I'm fine with myho.
07:22Please, calm.
07:25Pulse return.
07:35Pulse return.
07:36Whoa, whoa.
07:39Not vertical.
07:40Oh, God.
07:41I'm just going.
07:42I can't believe you.
07:44All right, you got a bump here, buddy.
07:45I'll take you.
07:46Yeah, get the shot down.
07:47I'll take you.
07:48I'll take you.
07:50I'll take you.
07:51Don't worry about the feet.
08:04Ready?
08:05Yep.
08:08Slow your breathing down.
08:10Deep breaths.
08:11Deep breaths.
08:12You'll catch your breath.
08:13Deep breaths.
08:14Do it for your kids.
08:15Calm down.
08:18I can't get my hands.
08:21Please.
08:22I got to get my hands up.
08:25Sir, you're making it worse on yourself.
08:28Please.
08:29I'm happy now.
08:29You're going to make it worse.
08:31I can't breathe.
08:33My face is gone now.
08:34Get my hands up.
08:38Get my hands up, please.
08:40Sir, what do you want me to do for you?
08:41My face is gone now.
08:42I can't breathe.
08:43Get my hands up on my head so I can expand my lungs.
08:46Come on, please.
08:48Sir, you're going to hurt yourself, okay?
08:50You're going to end up in the back of my car if we don't stop.
08:55You need to stop.
08:56Your kids are right here.
08:58You need to stop.
08:59You need to calm down for them.
09:01Do you need a hospital, sir?
09:03Did you take any narcotics or any other drug today that is affecting the way you are acting?
09:11No.
09:12Is this what happened to Nicole?
09:13Did she use a drug?
09:18I said for her.
09:20Also, they're transporting her to the hospital.
09:22They're still working on her with the machine.
09:26Do you think it's a drug overdose or...?
09:32Can I step in the back to look at her or...?
09:40We had a full arrest.
09:41It's a 30-year-old female.
09:43We had a return of pulse.
09:44Is she?
09:45She's at 95 for pulse right now.
09:47She's still unresponsive to us.
09:49I say a helicopter for this.
09:51Yes.
09:51Mm-hmm.
09:52Go ahead and call dispatch.
09:53Come get a helicopter.
09:55Are we able to get a helicopter started over to you, AJ?
09:57Over.
09:58I can try.
09:59Nobody's going to find out today.
10:01It's just a pretty critical patient.
10:14You don't think any of this is from when she fell?
10:16I don't know.
10:16I didn't see where she was.
10:17No.
10:18Not for that.
10:19She's all bruised and had the...
10:20Yeah.
10:20She has broken teeth.
10:22I think she's got jaw fractures.
10:24423 to 410.
10:26If you've got pulse, I don't want to...
10:3133.
10:32Don't let him out of your sight.
10:34This evening through tomorrow, 19, first alert weather day in effect.
10:37Area-wide snow with a clipper system.
10:39Lake effect then follows it, and the winds, the winds are going to be a really, really big deal with
10:45this storm.
10:45This is Jared with community care.
10:47We have a post-arrest.
10:50Looks to me from blunt force trauma.
10:52Because she's covered head to toe in bruises.
10:55She has some teeth knocked out.
10:57I was trying to get a helicopter out.
11:01Yes.
11:03What do we got going on here?
11:04He's...
11:05Why is this guy laying in the doorway with a blanket on him?
11:07He's half-naked.
11:08Okay.
11:10Alright, I want you to stand up.
11:12Hey, what's...
11:12Tell us what's going on here so we can figure this out.
11:15You're laying...
11:15You're laying down...
11:17He's...
11:17He's cuffed.
11:18This ain't happening.
11:18So we need to put him in a police car.
11:20Yes, that's...
11:21Okay.
11:32Once we get in our car, then we can start to sort through this in a rational, logical way.
11:38But when you're laying in the doorway and there's kids crying, that's not helpful.
11:43Don't you agree, Tom?
11:45That's not helpful.
11:52You can cut your breath off and it's warm.
11:54Heat.
11:55Heat.
11:55Yes, it's warm.
11:56It's warm in there.
11:57Heat.
11:58High.
11:58High.
11:59Okay.
12:00Sit tight in there.
12:01Can I get my hands above my head?
12:02Nope, please.
12:03Nope.
12:03Sit there.
12:04Okay, what's happening?
12:05Okay.
12:06So we got called here, obviously, for a response to female.
12:08Okay.
12:09Unknown circumstances.
12:10I show up.
12:11He's running around sweating, crazy.
12:13Okay.
12:13She's laying in the living room, like near the living room.
12:15The dining table area.
12:17Okay.
12:17Completely unconscious.
12:18Not breathing.
12:19They're giving her CPR.
12:20Do you see any injuries on her when you're looking at her?
12:21Oh, absolutely.
12:22Do you see her legs?
12:22I haven't seen her yet.
12:23She is black and blue, wrapped up cuts.
12:26Do they still want to land a helicopter?
12:28Nope.
12:30She's flying from all hospitals.
12:32All right.
12:38You got some food enough?
12:41No problem.
12:42No problem, baby.
12:46Where did you see mom at when she couldn't breathe?
12:50You got a soda, okay.
13:01Okay, is that wet because he put some water on mom?
13:04Should I help her?
13:05Okay.
13:07423, I still 4.
13:09423.
13:11Females being transported to Geauga.
13:18Is this like a shower?
13:19Yeah.
13:21It's so much more to do a shower.
13:23Oh, it's a lot.
13:24Yeah.
13:24Who's in a wheelchair?
13:26My mom was using it for a shower.
13:29Oh, does she have a hard time walking?
13:31Oh, she does?
13:32What happened?
13:33I don't know.
13:34Oh.
13:37Can I talk to you outside?
13:39Yeah.
13:39Okay.
13:42She has, they think, a broken jaw.
13:45Her teeth are all broken.
13:46Okay.
13:47Her eye is all cut up.
13:49This eye is all bruised, swollen shut.
13:52Okay.
13:52Her legs are covered in bruises.
13:54Her arms.
13:55Your stuff are old stuff.
13:56The face is brand new.
13:58Okay.
13:59So I didn't see where she was laying.
14:02Oh, okay.
14:04I tried to, there's no skin or anything under her nails.
14:06I tried looking at that.
14:08Okay.
14:08Um, but these are, these kind of look a little old, but it's kind of hard to tell with all
14:13that on.
14:13The stuff on the face looks pretty puffy.
14:15Yeah.
14:16Okay.
14:16Um, they let me get that real quick.
14:19That's all, that's new.
14:21Okay.
14:21For sure.
14:21Yeah.
14:21Um.
14:23Okay.
14:23I'll make it through the floor.
14:24I'm going to.
14:25Oh, okay.
14:38Okay.
14:40Yeah.
14:40Hey, Grandma and Grandpa here.
14:42They're going to hang out with you for a little bit right here in the, in the foyer area.
14:45Hi.
14:46Can you see your first leg?
14:47Yes.
14:48Really short.
14:50You quit calling everybody.
14:52Yeah.
14:52He's really, he's blowing up everybody's phone.
14:54Yeah.
14:55Yeah.
14:56Normally they don't have a phone.
14:57Oh, okay.
14:58They're not even allowed to touch a phone.
15:00Oh, those aren't their phones?
15:02I told them to go grab a phone to call.
15:05Oh, okay.
15:06She didn't know Grandma's number.
15:07Okay.
15:08But you don't need to be calling 5,000 people.
15:10Okay.
15:11Why did you call?
15:12Whose one is this one?
15:13That's her dad.
15:14This is the dad's?
15:15Okay.
15:15And whose one did you just put in your pocket?
15:16I have no clue.
15:17Can I have it back?
15:18Grab it back?
15:19I'll take them all.
15:20Just until we, yeah, well, we do want to figure out what's going on.
15:23Who called Aunt Neida to come get them?
15:25The dad kept trying to call a bunch of people when I was first here.
15:29To come and get them?
15:30I don't know.
15:32He was just trying to call people.
15:34Well, just because nobody takes their kids.
15:36Nobody.
15:37Yeah.
15:39They've spent one night away from their mom and dad since they've been born.
15:43Obviously, today's a little different than usual because things that happen today don't usually happen.
15:47Or some.
15:48He's sitting in my car.
15:49Okay.
15:49He won't say what's happening.
15:51I know this is.
15:56Hi, babies.
15:57Hi, baby.
15:58How bad is Nikki?
15:59Can you guys tell me that?
16:00No.
16:01No.
16:01Where did you guys take her?
16:02Chiaga.
16:03Chiaga.
16:04Yes.
16:04That's who I was at.
16:05Have they gotten a hold of her parents at all?
16:08Everything's in the very early stages.
16:09Okay.
16:09So you guys are pretty much the first people.
16:12I'm pretty familiar with a lot of things that go on here.
16:14Is that right?
16:15I come out here a lot.
16:16The kids will tell you that.
16:17Yeah.
16:18I've been to check on Nikki a few times.
16:21Okay.
16:22Maybe, Debbie Gerke, you want to speak to her outside so that everybody in the whole world doesn't have to
16:26hear everything?
16:26Yeah.
16:29Let me go out here and talk to her.
16:30I'll be right back in to you guys, okay?
16:34How are you?
16:35I'm good.
16:35How are you?
16:36I'm okay.
16:37All right.
16:37Just give me a minute.
16:38I'm going to talk to him real quick, okay?
16:45Hi.
16:48Hey, Matt, I already tell you everything that Matt already briefed you on.
16:51Yeah.
16:52I tried talking to the kids when we first got here.
16:54They were in the bedroom, and the guy was back there.
16:56And I'm trying to, like, ask him his name, what's going on.
16:59He went and talked to me.
17:00Where's he at now?
17:01In Matt's car.
17:02Right out here.
17:03And I tried talking to the kid, like, hey, what happened?
17:05And he was like, no, don't.
17:07And he wouldn't let them talk to me.
17:08So they might open up a little bit.
17:10She said she knows some stuff.
17:11This is a sister.
17:12I have my sister.
17:14You still do?
17:17Nice to meet you.
17:18Yeah, I've been out here to check on Nikki a couple times.
17:22I know that my brother has been physically abusive to her in the past.
17:28Last time I was out here was probably about two weeks ago.
17:32And Nikki was unrecognizable.
17:34Honestly, I've been in fear to contact you guys.
17:37She's asked me not to contact you guys.
17:39What's his name?
17:41Tom.
17:41Tom, what's his name?
17:42Grayley.
17:43Grayley, okay.
17:44Is he in jail?
17:45Is that what I'm guessing?
17:46No.
17:47No.
17:48He's in someone's car.
17:49Yeah, he's in one of the back of one of the cars.
17:53Oh, he's here.
17:54Okay.
17:55Yeah.
17:56Yeah.
17:57What do you mean unrecognizable?
17:59Like you.
18:00She didn't look like my sister-in-law.
18:01Like cuts, bruises, scrapes?
18:03Beat the f*** out.
18:08She's begged me not to call you guys, I think, in fear of what may happen to her.
18:14And that was two weeks ago?
18:16About two weeks ago, I would say.
18:18Does she have any bruising or anything on her legs or arms?
18:20She was covered up.
18:22Okay.
18:22So, I don't know, but I know that she couldn't move very easily, so I would have to say so.
18:28Okay.
18:30The kids did say she has some trouble walking, but...
18:35They didn't say why she couldn't breathe, like...
18:38No, they said they didn't really see anything.
18:41So, but I think it's in fear that he has told them not to talk.
18:46Probably.
18:47This is...
18:48Is that usually what happens?
18:50I just...
18:51I wouldn't say a lot to them in front of me.
18:52Okay.
18:54I just know that he...
18:57He doesn't like the cops, and that he's kind of trained the kids the same way, if you will.
19:02Yeah.
19:04Okay.
19:06Yeah, I don't know what happened.
19:08When's the last time you talked to her?
19:09To her?
19:10Mm-hmm.
19:11They were actually just at my house two nights ago, I believe.
19:16Mm-hmm.
19:17And she have any marks on her then?
19:19Uh, her face was still swelled and stuff.
19:20Like her eyes were bruised or anything?
19:22I really didn't see.
19:23I know her nose looked, like, a little wide.
19:25Okay.
19:25Um, like I said, I didn't see her very clearly.
19:29It was nighttime when they were there.
19:31Okay.
19:32I'm going to come up here so I don't have to look up at you.
19:33Sorry.
19:34Okay.
19:35Um, yeah, she, um, her lips looked a little, a little swelled, too, you know?
19:41Okay.
19:41Um, like I said, I couldn't see her face real clearly.
19:44Is it typical, just arguments, or is it, like, the same thing you think?
19:48I know that they fight a lot.
19:49Um, I think Tommy Telp.
19:52Um, Tommy is, like, a conspiracy theory.
19:55He, he kind of, he's up.
19:57I love him, but he's my brother, and he, he's up.
20:06Can I get this hair, come loose, and please, it's killing me.
20:11Hey, Sergeant, can you, ah, come.
20:19This one on my right is really dead.
20:21Okay, I'll take a look at it.
20:27This one's way better now.
20:28So tell me, how, how's that one feel now?
20:29That one's way better.
20:31Okay.
20:32I turn in handcuffs, and you're in the back of the police car.
20:35I'm going to advise you of your rights.
20:36You're the right to remain silent.
20:38Anything you say can and will be used against you for a while.
20:45Tom, look at me.
20:46You guys ever get physical?
20:47Can you do me a favor?
20:49What's that?
20:50What a favor, and I'll hug you for hours if you want.
20:54What do you need?
20:55Let me go in and sit with my kids and hold my kids,
20:58because I'm going to need to give you things anyway.
21:02You're going to need to give me things?
21:03I want to give you things.
21:05I have tons of things to give you.
21:07Like what?
21:11Boxes of stuff.
21:13Boxes of what?
21:14Boxes of stuff.
21:15Like what?
21:15Of tons of stuff.
21:16I don't know.
21:17It doesn't help me.
21:18I'm interested in what happened tonight, okay, Thomas?
21:26We've been arguing.
21:28Thomas said she didn't have been feeling good.
21:31Okay.
21:33And we were in the living room and started arguing again,
21:37and she said that she didn't feel good and fell.
21:43She fell?
21:44Mm-hmm.
21:47Thomas, listen to me.
21:49Hey.
21:52Nicole didn't sustain those injuries from falling,
21:55and you know that.
21:56I know.
21:58I'm not saying you're a bad guy.
22:00I think things just got a little carried away tonight.
22:03Would you agree?
22:04Would you agree with that?
22:08I'm not agreeing with that.
22:10You're trying to put me in a position I don't want to be in,
22:14and that's making me upset.
22:16I don't want to.
22:16I wouldn't want to be in that position either.
22:18I get that.
22:19I understand.
22:20I'll ask for one thing.
22:22Please just let me put my arms around my kids
22:25and give you whatever you need.
22:27I'm not uncuffing you
22:28and having you put your arms around your children.
22:30That's not going to happen.
22:34I can't do it.
22:36Those handcuffs aren't coming off
22:37until you get to jail.
22:48Lieutenant Ward's going to kind of give us an idea
22:49of what he wants everybody to do.
22:51Until we figure out what's going on,
22:53I don't want anybody in this house, okay?
22:55Okay, okay.
22:55Everybody's going to have to get...
22:57I don't want anybody taking anything,
23:00so I need you guys to go out to your cars
23:03so we can do what we need to do in here.
23:05Don't be afraid to talk to these guys, okay?
23:08They're here to help.
23:08They're here to help you, okay?
23:10And your mom.
23:11And your mom.
23:12That's the more important thing.
23:13We need to help your mom, okay?
23:14Okay.
23:15Because she's not doing well in the hospital
23:16and doctors need to help.
23:18Okay, listen.
23:18They need to know what happens
23:20and what goes on here, okay?
23:22Okay.
23:26Talking to the kids.
23:36You guys are okay, okay?
23:37When you're done talking,
23:40you come out and sit with Mom and Papa.
23:42You're all right, baby girl.
23:43But I need my tools.
23:45What?
23:46You guys are...
23:47You little...
23:47In a minute, okay, bud?
23:49Yeah.
23:49You good?
23:50Yeah.
23:51All right.
23:51Do you want to help your mommy?
23:53Do you want to get out of this situation
23:55so your mommy's safe?
23:56I know that daddy's told you guys
23:58not to talk to people,
23:59but sometimes you have to.
24:01Have they been fighting the past couple days
24:03like they do
24:03when Aunt Ada comes out to visit
24:05and check on you guys?
24:07Yes.
24:08Yes?
24:09They have them?
24:10There's a great bucket
24:11and you see how many buckets you see.
24:14They have hair.
24:15Okay, so in the shower,
24:17I did see a clump of hair in the shower.
24:19Okay.
24:19Okay, yeah.
24:20There's a bucket of some hair in the shower.
24:26Just whatever you guys can remember,
24:27we need to talk to these guys
24:28and we need to talk to them, okay?
24:31Okay.
24:31That way they can...
24:32Don't burst.
24:35This will help your mom.
24:36This will help your mom
24:37and this will help your dad
24:38get the help that he needs, hopefully.
25:07You won't listen to me.
25:09Nobody will.
25:10I am listening.
25:11Listen, we got the ride to the county jail
25:13and I will listen to you.
25:14Yeah, but all the things
25:15that I'm telling you I need
25:17for my evidence,
25:18you're going to destroy
25:19because people are going to be in my house.
25:21You're not going to get it all.
25:22I've offered to give it to you
25:24and I've tried to talk to you
25:25and you guys just make a mockery of me.
25:27Is it not good enough
25:28that I'm trying to talk to you?
25:30Is it not good enough
25:31that I called for services?
25:32Is it not good enough
25:34that I tried to give you information?
25:36It's honestly, Tom.
25:37I didn't run from nobody.
25:38I didn't do nothing.
25:39I didn't create no problems.
25:40The only thing I asked for
25:42was to give me a moment
25:43so I could come down
25:44and counsel my kids.
25:46When someone needs help
25:48and you want to give us
25:49a box of papers,
25:49that's no good.
25:51You know there's nothing
25:52in my f***ing house
25:53that's going to save her.
25:54There's nothing in my house
25:55that's going to save her.
25:56What happened to her?
25:59You were there and we weren't
26:01and if someone could tell me
26:02what happened in your house
26:03before I got there
26:04and I could pass it on to the doctors,
26:06it might make the difference
26:07between her living and dying.
26:08So I don't want to talk about
26:09boxes of papers.
26:10So why don't we talk about
26:11what happened to her
26:12so we can help the doctors
26:13understand what's going on
26:14so they can develop
26:15a plan to help treat her
26:17and try to get her to live.
26:18I'm not a doctor.
26:19What do you want me to tell you?
26:21Well what happened in the house
26:22before we got there?
26:23I'm not a doctor.
26:25What do you want me to tell you?
26:26That's going to save her life.
26:27What caused her injuries?
26:28What caused her injuries?
26:30You can tell me what caused her
26:30what caused her injuries
26:32is a great start.
26:33Me and her.
26:35What does that mean?
26:36That means just what I said.
26:38It means me and her.
26:39She hurt herself?
26:40Yes, she hurt herself.
26:41Okay.
26:42I told the 911 dispatch
26:43she said she wasn't feeling good
26:45and she passed out.
26:47She quit breathing.
26:47So how did her face
26:48get all like that?
26:49Change the subject on me.
26:51No, I'm saying she said
26:52change the subject on me.
26:54Okay.
26:56Please, sir, will you listen to me?
26:59Pull over here and listen.
27:00I'm not going to pull over.
27:01I can hear you just fine.
27:02There's no reason
27:02I have to stop to be able to listen.
27:03I can listen and drive.
27:05But you're going to miss
27:06some of the most important things for me.
27:09But yet you've said nothing yet.
27:10I'm trying to tell you
27:12but you won't listen.
27:15How am I not listening?
27:16My ears are wide open.
27:18You just ain't saying nothing.
27:19You asked me what was in the boxes
27:21and I told you lots of things
27:22and then you turn around
27:23and mock me like,
27:24oh, well, that's how
27:25that's going to seem.
27:26Right, because that's
27:27what's most important.
27:28Yeah, right.
27:28You don't care one bit about her.
27:30You could care less.
27:31No, I don't care
27:32about a thing about you
27:33because you don't treat me
27:34like a human.
27:35You haven't told us one thing
27:36that would help that woman.
27:36I don't care a thing about you
27:37because you don't treat me
27:38like a human.
27:39The doctors want to know
27:40about her injuries.
27:41They're seeing injuries
27:42and they want to know
27:43what caused the injuries
27:44and they don't know.
27:45I tried to tell you
27:46what caused the injuries.
27:47Tell me again.
27:48I don't listen good.
27:49Tell me again.
27:50My ears are open.
27:51No.
27:52Tell me again
27:52what caused the injuries.
27:54The mother of your children
27:55is in the hospital
27:55fighting for her life.
27:56She needs somebody to...
27:57I'm not a doctor.
27:58Okay.
27:59And you won't even help.
28:00You won't even say what...
28:01I'm not a cop.
28:01You won't even say what happened.
28:03Saying what happened
28:04ain't going to change nothing
28:05and ain't going to save her life.
28:06I told you
28:07check her lungs
28:09and check her head.
28:10What more do you want from me?
28:11I'm not a doctor.
28:12I'm a criminal.
28:14That's how you treat me anyway.
28:16A worthless piece of s*** criminal.
28:17Oh, you've been treated
28:18far from that, Tom.
28:19I'm done talking to you
28:20because you don't do nothing
28:21but treat me like a f***ing fool.
28:23Well, you'll have to think about that.
28:26Well, what?
28:27I'll have to think about it.
28:28You guys have the burden of proof.
28:33You said your mommy
28:34had the wrap on her.
28:35I saw that.
28:36I also saw, like,
28:37the black and blue marks.
28:39What happened?
28:40Did your daddy cause the bruises?
28:43Yes.
28:44Did he hit her with something
28:45or did he hit...
28:46What did he hit her with?
28:47Part of a BB gun.
28:48Part of a BB gun?
28:49Part of a BB gun.
28:50Where is that BB gun?
28:51Do you know where that is?
28:52I think it's...
28:53These are in the...
28:54Don't touch it.
28:54Don't touch it.
28:55Don't touch it.
28:55I think it's either over there
28:58in the arm.
28:59We'll leave it for the detective.
29:00Don't touch, baby.
29:01Don't touch.
29:02Don't f***ing her.
29:02I need a f***ing over here.
29:04Right there.
29:04Okay.
29:05Right there.
29:05Okay.
29:05Just don't touch it.
29:06When did that...
29:07Was that today?
29:08I think last night.
29:09Last night?
29:10Did you hear mommy fall today, too?
29:12I don't know.
29:13I think she was already on the floor.
29:14Right there.
29:15Right here by the couch.
29:22So there's a BB gun in there.
29:23He hit her in the face with the BB gun.
29:25Okay.
29:26Is that what...
29:26Who said that?
29:27The kid.
29:28The daughter.
29:29I know last time I was out here...
29:31No.
29:31No, it wasn't two weeks ago when I was out here.
29:33The time before that, that I was out here, I gave her a hug.
29:36I was getting ready to leave, and she did.
29:38She whispered in my ear, please don't leave.
29:39He's going to tell me.
29:50I can't stand here and tell you thing after thing after thing.
29:54Oh, you told me nothing.
29:55Not even one thing.
29:56No, I didn't tell you nothing.
29:57Okay.
29:584, 10, so 4.
30:024, 10, so 5, west door was open.
30:05No, I didn't tell you nothing.
30:07I did not tell you nothing.
30:09You'll have a chance to talk to the executives, Tom.
30:11You should at least be pointing out.
30:16Good evening.
30:19Thomas Grayley is going to be placed in a holding cell by himself until he's interviewed by a detective.
30:24Okay.
30:24Come on, Amy.
30:32Bye, buddy.
30:33I'll take one.
30:33Bye.
30:34Thanks for it.
30:35Careful.
30:35It's probably slippery.
30:37Step down slowly.
30:39Step down slowly.
31:00You guys are aware that Nicole sustained some pretty severe injuries.
31:04I heard.
31:09I'm just trying to figure out if this has been an ongoing issue with them.
31:14TJ and Nikki fought.
31:16You mean?
31:17Yeah.
31:18What have we been?
31:19I mean, I've never seen him hit her.
31:22Uh-huh.
31:23We both know that he has smacked her.
31:27He's told never again, don't let us see it, don't let us hear about it.
31:30But anything like this, God, we had no clue.
31:35He's a control freak.
31:38He has to be in control of everybody's life.
31:42You had indicated that you've been friends with Thomas Grayley since elementary school.
31:49Um, junior high, 6th and 7th grade.
31:51I mean, it sounds like you were probably closer.
31:54Than anybody else.
31:56Than anybody else.
31:57Than anybody else.
31:57I mean, in all reality.
31:59Which is, I guess, why I feel so guilty.
32:01He called me on the 25th in the morning and I went out there and Nikki was beat up.
32:05And you said that was the 25th of October.
32:08Yeah, yeah.
32:09It looked like she had been punched in the f***ing numbers is what it looked like.
32:12Right here was all black and blue.
32:13And then I was like, what the f*** is going on?
32:15Right.
32:15You know, and then we went outside because I wasn't going to stand there and talk in front of the
32:19kids.
32:19He told me he punched her.
32:21He told me he punched her.
32:22He told me he punched her.
32:30I'll get him out there.
32:32Stop.
32:33Get down here.
32:34Get down here.
32:35Get down here.
32:42Get down here.
32:51Thomas, my name is Detective Ward.
32:53You have the right to remain silent.
32:55Anything you say can will be used against you in a corridor.
32:57Do you understand your rights?
32:59Yeah.
33:00I tried to be as honest with you as I could yesterday,
33:03and you just pretty much took me for a joke.
33:07No, I didn't take you for a joke.
33:08You took me for a joke.
33:10I asked you to take me in the house,
33:12and I would give you everything I could to help you out.
33:16In exchange for hugging your kids,
33:18you either want to discuss how Nicole sustained her injuries
33:22and how she has bruising all over her body
33:26that's in various stages of healing,
33:31how she ended up with a lacerated spleen.
33:35Sir, I don't want to hurt you with you.
33:37I don't want to give you a hard time.
33:38Okay.
33:39My question to you directly is,
33:41how did Nicole sustain the injuries with you?
33:43And I'm not talking to you about the question.
33:46Okay.
33:46Here's my problem, sir.
33:48This interview's done.
33:49Okay?
33:50Detective, can you listen to me?
33:51No, I'm not going to.
33:52You're talking circles.
33:53I've got a search warrant to collect your DNA.
33:56That's your copy.
33:58Everything that I say or do
33:59will be used against me in court of law.
34:02It doesn't matter what I say or do.
34:04My words are twisted around and foreign.
34:08I don't need to say anything.
34:11Nicole's injuries speak volumes.
34:13Okay?
34:15Sir, I tried to help you.
34:17I told my children I-
34:18You didn't try nothing.
34:20I didn't try nothing.
34:21That's why I tried to give you a box.
34:22This is paperwork, right?
34:23I'm tired of hearing about paperwork.
34:25Unless the boxes of paperwork
34:27has to do with the confession
34:28I'm not overly concerned about the box of paperwork.
34:33Can I get some water, please?
34:35Want a pop?
34:36Please.
34:38Eat that cup.
34:39It would be great.
34:40What's that?
34:41Eat that cup.
34:42It would be great.
34:42In a cup?
34:45Can't drink it out of the bottle?
34:49I'm not nervous.
34:50You can have this pop.
34:51I'm not going to run out and give you a-
34:54A cup, okay?
34:56I asked you specifically, how did Nicole sustain the injuries that she had?
35:01Your response was, nothing for a moment.
35:05And then you said, we've been fighting since June.
35:07We got into a fight tonight.
35:09We showered and then she fell down.
35:12That's what you told me last night.
35:14Unless they're falling from a 10-story building,
35:17somebody's not going to get a lacerated spleen or liver
35:19and fractures and broken ribs.
35:23If I stand up and fall down right now,
35:25I'm not going to sustain those types of injuries.
35:28You provided no assistance whatsoever
35:31in trying to clarify what happened with Nicole, okay?
35:36You say you're lumber,
35:38but your actions say something different.
35:41I'm trying to get some information.
35:43Can we-
35:44Can we-
35:44Simple, please?
35:46What was-
35:47What was difficult to understand?
35:49A lot of things are difficult to understand.
35:51All right, I'm not going to keep going.
35:53You're bouncing around.
35:54I'm not bouncing around.
35:56I'm confused.
35:58Okay.
35:59Can you get your piece of paper and write something for me?
36:01Nope.
36:02Here, let me get your piece of paper and write something, please.
36:05Nope.
36:06I want you to think about it, please.
36:08What do you want me to write?
36:10I don't know.
36:11I was going to have to take a second to think about it.
36:15Okay.
36:16Okay.
36:17You got-
36:19It's 10-
36:2010-19 right now.
36:21You got-
36:22I'm sorry, it's 10-20.
36:23You got the 10-25 to start making sense,
36:26or else this interview's done.
36:34I've been with Nicole for a little over 10 years.
36:36I cannot make sense of what is going on myself.
36:42Why can't you-
36:43Especially in five minutes.
36:44Why can't you make sense of what's going on?
36:47Because Nicole has lied to me and manipulated me and made me forget portions of my life.
36:59So, you're saying that she manipulated you and lied to you.
37:04Is that when you kick her ass?
37:11Or did she kick her own ass?
37:13Or did she kick her own ass?
37:13Or did she kick her own ass?
37:15Because I will be asking-
37:17You can say whatever you want to say.
37:19Her injuries tell a different story.
37:21Her injuries speak volumes.
37:23Okay.
37:24But I don't understand what she meant by that.
37:26You don't seem to understand much of anything.
37:28You're not going to control this interview like you've controlled Nicole.
37:35Sir, I have been honoring you as I can.
37:39Yes, I have.
37:39I told you I can't even understand 10 years of my life.
37:42How do I make you understand it in five minutes?
37:45I don't understand 10 years of my life.
37:47How do I make you understand it in five minutes?
37:50I'm done talking to you.
37:51I'm done.
37:52I'm done.
38:09New developments now.
38:10A woman violently beaten to death.
38:12Deputies believe her killer is the one who actually called for help.
38:16A woman is now dead and police believe this man, Thomas Grayley Jr.
38:20had something to do with it.
38:22Grayley is now sitting in the county jail.
38:24He was in court on Wednesday and is facing felonious assault charges.
38:28Murder charges will probably be coming next for him.
38:38Hello, this is a free call from Thomas Grayley.
38:41An incarcerated individual at Ashtabula County Jail.
38:45This call is subject to recording and monitoring.
38:52How are you?
38:53They offered me 30 to life.
38:55Oh, did they?
38:56I'd be 68 years old after 30 years.
38:59So you're going to trial then, right?
39:01That's why some of the investigators are starting to investigate.
39:05All I'm going to say is you don't want them digging through your stuff.
39:09I don't know what you're talking about.
39:11There's some things in there that nobody should see.
39:16Like what?
39:17Stuff that you wrote.
39:19Just not good stuff.
39:21Everybody clearly knows that I put my hands on me.
39:25But nothing says that I beat the **** out of her.
39:28You're not stupid.
39:31Okay, well, they're going there.
39:34Like it or not, they're going there.
39:35So I guess you need to clean.
39:41They only planned a certain amount of time to prosecute and bring me to trial.
39:45But they're going there.
39:47So whatever you're so worried about, everybody can get it the **** on.
39:50Yeah, well, there's a burn pile there.
39:53We'll have a big fire.
40:11So everyone, here it is for the world to see.
40:18I have done ****.
40:20That's no good.
40:25Not a **** bit.
40:27You see, I touched Nicole a little bit with some cigarettes.
40:33Because I was trying to get Nicole to answer some basic questions about what's going on
40:39here.
40:40And she wouldn't say nothing to me.
40:43And I try to talk to her, and I try to love her, and I try to explain it.
40:49I just want to be 100% transparent, because I think she's trying to set me the **** up.
40:56That even though she looks like she does, I'm trying to explain to her that there's a
41:03judgment coming.
41:06And if she thinks this is bad, wait until she gets to judgment.
41:13Because I want to make it very **** clear.
41:16This is my boat, and I run this ****.
41:20And I just want to make it clear that I don't beat on Nicole.
41:23I don't beat on Nicole at all.
41:25I teach Nicole hard lessons out of love.
41:45I appreciate you meeting with me.
41:47I appreciate you meeting with us.
41:50So my whole goal with all of this is to try to keep you informed as much as I can.
41:55If there's anything that you want to talk about, feel free.
41:58I haven't seen Nicole for five years, or the kids.
42:02They were coming around and visiting us, and you know, we were seeing the kids.
42:06And then our son became a police officer.
42:09Tom paid police officers, so they weren't allowed to come around with us anymore.
42:14You gotta understand, we never abatement our dog.
42:18I think he brainwashed her and the kids.
42:20The kids for sure.
42:22Now do you talk to this monster?
42:24Is there any way that he can find out that we have the kids,
42:27that they're going to grow up to be police officers?
42:30I want him to know that because anything will ease him more than anything in that jail.
42:35I want him to know.
42:36I want him to know.
42:38I want him to know.
42:48I want him to know.
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