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00:00Sous-titrage Société Radio-Canada
00:30Donald Trump is set to host his first official Board of Peace gathering in Washington today.
00:35Ahead of the meeting, which will take place at the U.S. Institute of Peace,
00:39Trump, who will chair the board, described it as potentially the most consequential international body in history.
00:46The initiative has already, though, sparked strong reactions.
00:49Critics warn it reflects an imperial agenda and could sideline the UN,
00:54but supporters argue it could serve as a practical mechanism focused on reconstruction efforts,
01:00particularly in Gaza.
01:01We can take a listen now to the White House Press Secretary, Caroline Leavitt.
01:04I don't think that peace should be partisan or political or controversial.
01:09And of course, the administration wants all those who were invited to join the Board of Peace to join.
01:15And this president has a very bold and ambitious plan and vision to rebuild and reconstruct Gaza,
01:21which is well underway because of the Board of Peace.
01:24This is a legitimate organization.
01:27And your news correspondent, Maya de la Bomme, is following the story for us and joins me now in the
01:32studio.
01:32Good morning, Maya.
01:33Good morning, Maeve.
01:35So look, a big day for this Board of Peace.
01:37Brussels has sent the EU commissioner for the Mediterranean, Suiza.
01:41But so many ambassadors are furious about this.
01:43That's what you've been reporting.
01:44Tell us more.
01:45Yes, diplomats told us that there was a very tense meeting in Brussels yesterday with many countries,
01:51including and especially France and Spain, saying that they were not consulted.
01:56So they are sending Suiza in Washington, D.C.
01:59But, you know, member states should validate the mandate of Mrs. Suiza.
02:04And this is what they have been saying in this meeting, where other countries also were furious,
02:10because, you know, this is a foreign policy matter and you need a mandate validated by 27 EU countries
02:17to be able to send a commissioner to Washington, D.C.
02:20and participate in a very controversial entity, which is the Board of Peace.
02:24And on top of that, I think that, you know, most diplomats say that Mrs. Suiza has a very political
02:30figure.
02:31This is a commissioner.
02:32Commissioners are political figures.
02:34And so why would you send a political figure to D.C.?
02:38I mean, the idea for many member states and many diplomats who we spoke to said,
02:43we need a lower level person, we need a civil servant, we need a diplomat, not a political figure.
02:48And on top of all of this, I think what we've gathered in our reporting is that diplomats are also
02:54furious
02:55because they think this participation of Mrs. Suiza sends the wrong signal,
03:00because it means that in a way it means that Europe is validating the Board of Peace.
03:04And we know that the Board of Peace is a very controversial entity.
03:08Most member countries, and again, I'm talking about France, Spain,
03:11and I'm excluding Hungary and, you know, Bulgaria,
03:15which have said that they would participate in this Board of Peace.
03:18But the reasoning behind this is that it sends the wrong signal
03:22that Europe is validating the Board of Peace, which most countries aren't.
03:27Yes, so I'd say there's some awkward phone calls now between the Commission and the Capitals.
03:31But meanwhile, the Commission is standing by this decision.
03:34Yeah, the Commission is standing by this decision because they want to have a voice on this issue,
03:40on the issue of Gaza.
03:41You know that the European Union is the largest donor of aid in Palestine.
03:47It supports the Palestinian Authority.
03:50It has supported the Palestinian Authority for decades.
03:52And it thinks that, you know, it should participate because this is an issue,
03:57this is a reconstruction of Gaza, and Europe should be involved in this reconstruction of Gaza.
04:03So what we hear from the Commission is we stand by because we are not joining the Board of Peace,
04:09but we need to have a voice.
04:10Otherwise, we will be excluded.
04:12And, you know, our role in this region is crucial, as they tell us.
04:18OK, Maid al-Aboum, thank you so much for that live update.
04:21And, of course, to find out who else will be in Washington, D.C. for those talks,
04:24do check out yournews.com.
04:27But now, coming up, we'll be joined by Saloma Suresh-Bishvili,
04:30a Georgian politician who served as the President of Georgia from 2018 to 2024.
04:36She was the first female to take on this role.
04:40Located between Eastern Europe and Western Asia,
04:42Georgia was plunged into a political and constitutional crisis after disputed elections
04:47that triggered mass anti-government protests.
04:51For its part, the European Parliament refuses to recognise the current authorities
04:55of the Georgian Dream Party and continue to see Saloma Suresh-Bishvili as the legitimate President.
05:00So good morning.
05:01Good morning.
05:01Welcome to Europe Today. Lovely to have you with us.
05:04Thank you.
05:04So the big story for us, of course, here today is Trump's Board of Peace.
05:08If you were still in office as President, would you sign up?
05:11I think that I know that our neighbours have signed up,
05:16and I think that it's very important that the region, the Caucasus,
05:20stays united and stays present in all the formats where it can be,
05:26and especially for Georgia, it's very important to be a subject of international relations
05:31and not only an object, which, unfortunately, we have become in the past period.
05:37And what should the EU...
05:38Forgotten.
05:39You can see this big dispute now in the EU about who should go and who should not?
05:43Well, that's their own subject, which I'm not here to comment upon.
05:47But I think that for a small country like Georgia, which is faced with one enemy, Russia,
05:54that we know how it behaves, it's very important to be present in all the formats
05:59where it can have its voice heard.
06:01And you were at the Munich Security Conference.
06:04Marco Rubio was also there, and he was describing the fact that the EU faces,
06:08or Europe faces, civilisation erasure.
06:11How do you interpret that?
06:13Well, I think that it has been...
06:16First of all, I was not at the Munich Conference this year, but I think that it is not true.
06:23It's not what happens in one day that suddenly Europe's...
06:28when this civilisation is raised.
06:31And on the contrary, I think that what is happening is a wake-up of Europe,
06:36which is discovering that together with its huge economic power,
06:42its huge civilisational power,
06:45it also needs force, strength, and military power.
06:51In part, that's also thanks to the wake-up call from the United States.
06:56So I think that all of that coming together is very good news for the Europeans
07:00and for the to-be Europeans.
07:03And you mentioned the threat of Russia earlier.
07:05We know that the talks took place yesterday in Geneva for two days,
07:09trying to end that war in Ukraine.
07:10Do you think they will ever come to an end?
07:13I think, of course, it will come to an end one day.
07:16What is important is how it comes to an end,
07:18because as neighbours of Russia, all the neighbours of Russia,
07:23know that Russia has been a constant invader,
07:26a constant aggressor, and a constant imperialist power
07:30that doesn't know where its borders stop.
07:33So what is very important out of these peace negotiations
07:36is the, of course, sovereignty of Ukraine,
07:40territorial integrity of Ukraine,
07:42and also the fact that Russia recognises elsewhere
07:46that it cannot occupy the territory of its neighbours.
07:50That's true for Apprazia and Ossetia.
07:53That's true for North Dnepstria, Trans-Dnepstria.
07:57Is Putin interested in peace, do you think, at these talks?
07:59He's never interested in peace.
08:01He has to be brought to peace by constraint.
08:05And I think that in that sense, probably,
08:10the uncertainty that Putin is probably experiencing
08:13with Trump and Trump's actions
08:15is the best ally for forcing him down to peace agreement.
08:21Maybe it's the best time that we have to see Russia
08:26having to recognise that somebody is both unpredictable
08:31and stronger than he is.
08:33And meanwhile in Georgia, what about the path towards EU membership?
08:36It's on ice now, talks are on hold.
08:37Well, it's a very thick ice at this time
08:40because everything that is happening within Georgia today
08:45is distancing us from the European past,
08:49from the European reforms.
08:51We have a capture of the state by Russia.
08:54We have a Russian model, in fact,
08:55being put into place at a very rapid pace,
08:59and that's costless for Russia,
09:02much more costless than, of course,
09:05the military intervention in Ukraine.
09:07With us, it's taking over institutions,
09:11democratic old principles,
09:14but there is a civil society,
09:17unlike in Russia or unlike in Belarus,
09:20a civil society that is fighting,
09:22that is resilient.
09:24And what more can you do here?
09:26What more can you do here?
09:28What more can you do?
09:29Be heard here, but I'm in Georgia.
09:31I'm not here.
09:32I'm going out just to have the voice of the Georgian people heard.
09:38More attention to Georgia,
09:39which is not easy at a time
09:41when there are so important and many crises around us.
09:45But it's still very important
09:47that we have the moral support
09:49because the people that are fighting
09:51are fighting for a European democratic Georgia.
09:54and we think that it's important
09:56not only for Georgians,
09:58but it's important for the future of a strong Europe,
10:02very present in the Caucasus
10:05and also American partners.
10:07Okay.
10:07Salome,
10:08thank you so much for being our guest this morning here
10:10on Europe Today.
10:12But now moving on,
10:13speaking on Europe Today just yesterday,
10:15the US ambassador to the European Union,
10:17Andrew Puzder,
10:18said that Europe has a major problem
10:19with mass migration.
10:20This is after Marco Rubio warned
10:23that Europe faces civilisation erasure.
10:25Our Jacopianos takes a look at the data.
10:30You might be wondering,
10:32is the EU experiencing mass migration?
10:35And you see,
10:35there isn't a simple yes or no answer
10:38because the numbers are actually falling.
10:41Last year,
10:42Frontex saw the EU border and Coast Guard agency
10:45reported over 25% drop in irregular crossings
10:49to around 180,000.
10:52And this is less than a half the total recorded in 2023.
10:57But public perception tells a completely different story.
11:00And for clarity,
11:01let's narrow it down strictly to irregular migration.
11:04So people crossing EU borders
11:06without official permission.
11:09Because the feeling of the crisis is so strong,
11:12mainstream politicians are adapting policies
11:14that used to be considered taboo.
11:17And take Denmark as an example.
11:19Led by a centre-left government,
11:22they are pushing a zero-refugee policy
11:24and advocating for asylum processing outside of Europe.
11:28And as this Denmark model spreads,
11:30the European Commission and major players like Germany
11:33are now officially backing the idea
11:35of return hubs in third countries.
11:37But this new approach is tearing the EU apart.
11:40And while the European Parliament just voted
11:43to allow deportations to unrelated third countries,
11:47Spain is going the opposite way.
11:49Madrid recently announced it will grant legal status
11:52to half a million undocumented migrants
11:55and that raised strong reservations in Brussels.
11:58Because papers in Spain might mean free travel
12:01across the Schengen zone,
12:02directly threatening the EU's strict new crackdown
12:05on irregular migration.
12:07Meanwhile, over four million Ukrainian war refugees
12:10live in the EU legally.
12:12Fleeing Russia's invasion,
12:14they did not come by choice.
12:16And, what's important,
12:17they did receive official EU protection.
12:19But when you walk down the street,
12:21perception doesn't care about visas or paperwork.
12:24And that is why this clash
12:26is no longer about policies and numbers.
12:29Or even the migrants themselves.
12:36Yeah, I could be honest there.
12:37Well, moving on,
12:38Real Madrid's 1-0 victory over Benfica
12:41in the UEFA Champions League in Portugal
12:43has been overshadowed this week
12:45by fresh allegations of racist abuse.
12:47The 25-year-old Brazilian professional footballer,
12:50Vinicius Jr.,
12:51was allegedly verbally abused,
12:53prompting the referee to hold up the match
12:55and trigger an anti-racism protocol.
12:57For more on the impact of this,
12:59we can now cross over to Lisbon,
13:01where Euronews' correspondent,
13:02João Azevedo, is standing by for us.
13:04outside the very football stadium
13:06where the incident occurred.
13:08Good morning, João.
13:10Just tell us what happened and what's next.
13:15Yeah, good morning, Maeve.
13:17Good morning to you and the team over there in Brussels.
13:19It did happen at the stadium right behind me,
13:22as you said.
13:24You know, Vinicius Jr.,
13:25he had just scored the goal.
13:27It was a monumental goal.
13:29Curled in a shot into the top corner.
13:32But that masterpiece triggered some ugly scenes
13:37over there on the pitch.
13:40You know, Vinicius Jr.
13:41He also had a somehow provocative celebration,
13:44but still he can celebrate as he wants.
13:47And actually, that celebration,
13:50it did put off the fans in the stands.
13:55And also some Benfica players on the pitch,
13:58especially Prestiani who confronted Vinicius Jr.
14:04He actually pulled his shirt up over his mouth
14:10and he did tell him something.
14:12Actually, Vinicius Jr. spotted it to the referee,
14:16reported it to the referee,
14:17saying that he had been racially abused.
14:19Madrid's French striker, Kylian Mbappé,
14:23confirming that version at the end of the match,
14:26telling reporters in the mix zone
14:28that he heard Prestiani call Vinicius Jr.
14:34a monkey five times.
14:36Prestiani denied those allegations,
14:40with Benfica, as expected,
14:42siding with their player.
14:46And I'm going to quote a part of the statement
14:49the club put out.
14:50I think we can put it up on the screen now.
14:53Benfica reiterates that he fully supports
14:55and believes in the version presented by the player,
14:59Gianluca Prestiani.
15:01The club now regrets the defamation campaign
15:04to which the player has been subjected.
15:08However, some football legends,
15:12including Thierry Henry, also Micka Richard,
15:16they did hit out at Prestiani's behavior.
15:21And there was also some sharp criticism
15:24coming from within Benfica's circle.
15:27Take Luizão, for example,
15:28a former captain of the club.
15:31It's someone who made over 500 appearances for the club.
15:36He didn't pull any punches.
15:37He wrote on social media.
15:40I think we can also see that statement.
15:44This is what he had to say.
15:45I love Benfica.
15:46It's my second skin.
15:48This message makes it worse.
15:50He's obviously referring to Benfica's statement,
15:53saying that that message makes it worse
15:54because it's a lie.
15:56It was a racist act.
15:58Yes.
15:59And I am ashamed of that.
16:01So pretty strong words there from Luizão.
16:06Now, UEFA has appointed an ethics and disciplinary agent
16:11who will be charged with investigating the incident.
16:15Of course, a judicial battle is now going to start.
16:21You have Madrid players saying that
16:24if Prestiani was not going to say anything wrong,
16:28then why did he feel the need to cover his mouth?
16:32But then on the other hand, Benfica saying that
16:34it's not possible for any Madrid players really to say
16:38that they heard any racial slur coming from Prestiani
16:41because there was a rowdy atmosphere in the stadium
16:44with a lot of noise.
16:46And the distance between the players,
16:50that just makes it impossible for any player to hear
16:54any racial slur from the opponent.
16:58So now, as I said, a judicial battle will be happening.
17:03And we do know that, of course,
17:07if Prestiani is found guilty of racial abuse,
17:12he lands in hot water.
17:15Of course, he risks a pretty heavy sanction,
17:19potentially a 10-match ban.
17:23And Joe, just tell us, is this an isolated case?
17:25And what does it say about racism in football?
17:27What does it say about racism in football?
17:30Yeah, it's not an isolated case, actually.
17:34And especially as for Vinicius.
17:36Vinicius Jr. is certainly not a stranger
17:40in this kind of episodes.
17:42For example, since 2022,
17:47he's filed 18 legal complaints
17:50for alleged racist abuse.
17:55So this is a player who's been involved
17:58in this kind of incident quite often.
18:02The most high-profile one may be dating back to May 2023.
18:07It happened at Mestadia Stadium in Valencia
18:12when Vinicius Jr. confronted some spectators in the stands.
18:18And ultimately, three Valencia fans
18:21were sentenced to eight months in prison.
18:25They also got banned from stadiums for two years.
18:31They even apologized to Vinicius Jr.
18:35So that was the very first conviction
18:37for hate crimes in Spain.
18:40And obviously a big win for Vinicius Jr.
18:44You know, some Valladolid fans,
18:46five Valladolid fans also got sentenced
18:50to some time in jail
18:53following some racist abuse
18:55directed at Vinicius Jr.
18:58And this recently is January 2026,
19:00like some weeks ago,
19:02a group of Albacete fans,
19:05they were heard outside of the stadium
19:08ahead of a Copa del Rey match
19:10against Real Madrid,
19:11singing racist chants towards Vinicius Jr.
19:15Now, that said,
19:17UEFA does not have a really strong track record
19:19when it comes to punishing racism.
19:22There was a 2021 Europa League match
19:29with Slavia Prague's centre-back
19:32found guilty of racially abusing
19:36Glasgow Rangers mid-fielder.
19:39But other than that,
19:40it's been a very light fun here and then.
19:43So we'll see how things shake out.
19:44Joao Azevedo,
19:44thank you so much
19:45for that very comprehensive
19:46live update there from Lisbon.
19:49And thank you so much for watching.
19:50That does bring this edition
19:52of Europe Today to an end.
19:53For any more news and analysis,
19:55any of the stories we're covering
19:57for you here on Euronews,
19:58do visit Euronews.com.
20:00Take care and see you very soon
20:01here on Euronews.
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