00:00So, no hopes. Zelensky has suggested that Ukraine, not Russia, is being pressured to make concessions to end the war.
00:09Trump has demanded that Ukraine comes to the table fast.
00:13Why isn't Moscow facing the same amount of heat from the US?
00:18Well, both sides are under pressure to settle on the tricky issue about territory in the remaining parts of Donetsk
00:26that the Russian army hasn't been able to occupy because of the defence of the Ukrainians.
00:30And both sides are under pressure, actually, to come to a compromise agreement on that
00:35that would effectively leave it demilitarised.
00:37Now, that's not something the Ukrainians want.
00:40They don't want to have to kind of give up that land voluntarily.
00:42That's not something the Russians want because they claim that land is their own,
00:46even though they haven't actually conquered it.
00:49So, it's not, strictly speaking, correct to say that there's no pressure on the Russian side.
00:52There very much is.
00:53What does Vladimir Putin really want from the talks in Geneva?
00:59Peace or a deal that locks in Russia's gains on the battlefield, as you just mentioned to me?
01:04Well, the big strategic victory for Putin when this war eventually ends,
01:08and I hope that it ends as soon, is to take NATO expansion decisively off the table
01:13through some sort of treaty arrangement and to have some bigger reset with the US on economic terms
01:19and possibly in terms of discussions on strategic nuclear deterrent and that sort of thing.
01:26So, actually, the territory issue is a kind of a very much a tactical issue.
01:31The bigger game of play here is preventing NATO expansion.
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