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00:00Hello, hi to you. Hi, hi, hi.
00:03You're all so welcome to the show.
00:05I tell you, it is a packed show tonight.
00:08We have enough guests on my sofa for a Taylor Swift video.
00:11Me?
00:13You're on the Taylor Swift video? Oh, go on then, yes, I will.
00:16And plenty more stars for you to enjoy tonight.
00:19Performing for us later, look over there, it's Gorillaz!
00:23Yeah!
00:25But first, let us open tonight.
00:28This after shock of fame in the Italian season of The White Lotus,
00:31before charming our punts off as Dexter in One Day
00:34and Rockstar in Bridget Jones' Mad About the Boy.
00:36Now, he stars in the twisty drama Vladimir.
00:39It's Leo Woodall, everybody!
00:42There he is!
00:44Hello, sir. Good to see you.
00:46Oh, hi. So far, wait, it's Leo Woodall.
00:49I know, I know, I know!
00:52It's Leo Woodall!
00:53This Olivier Award-winning star
00:56played our favourite con man, Mickey Briggs in Hustle,
00:59helped John Travolte become president of Primary Colors
01:02and has wowed theatre audiences with everything
01:04from Shakespeare to Sondheim.
01:06Now, his acclaimed RSC production of Cyrano de Bergerac
01:09is heading to the West End.
01:10Please welcome Adrian Lester!
01:13Here we go!
01:16Hello!
01:17Good to see you!
01:19There you go!
01:21Adrian Lester!
01:23For 12 years, this actor played Penny, the girl next door,
01:28in TV's longest-running and wildly popular sitcom,
01:31The Big Bang Theory.
01:33And more recently, she starred in the comedy thriller series
01:35The Flight Attendant.
01:36Now, she's unravelling a new mystery in Vanished.
01:39It's a first-time welcome to Kaley Cuoco!
01:45Oh, so shiny!
01:47It's a lovely houndo!
01:49Thank you!
01:50Thank you!
01:51So lovely to see you!
01:52So lovely to see you!
01:53Hello!
01:54Hello!
01:55And what a year this man has had!
01:58Not only was he the co-creator and star of last year's
02:01global phenomenon, Adolescence,
02:03picking up a Golden Globe and Emmy along the way,
02:06he still found time to star in hits like A Thousand Blows
02:09and to play Springsteen's dad in Deliver Me From Nowhere.
02:13His latest film is The Good Boy.
02:15Please welcome the great Stephen Graham!
02:17Stop it!
02:18Stop it!
02:19Sit down!
02:20Sit down!
02:33Sit down!
02:34Sit down!
02:35Sit down!
02:36I know!
02:37I know!
02:38What a lovely couch!
02:39anything Stephen Graham congratulations on everything it's been so lovely to see
02:43you traveling the world picking up prizes wherever you go I mean and it's I
02:47was saying to you backstage it's lovely that it's you Aaron and Owen you keep
02:52winning together as you say you know to be able to share it together is
02:59something else because it's you don't really get them kind of opportunities
03:02yeah it's the gift that keeps on giving as Erin says and tell me this was it the
03:07Golden Globes I mean it's such a starry audience of the Golden Globes yeah but
03:10you got distracted by a very specific person I mean I've known him for a long
03:25time and Leo just stood up and he was just looking at me and clapping and I
03:29felt I don't know not this Leo you know it's strange he's been me mate for like
03:37over 20 years so for him to see me in that situation was was lovely for him and
03:41it was it was an honor yeah yeah it was weird but actually really Leo you did
03:45meet Stephen but it wasn't there it was it where was it remember when we met now
03:49why would you we met in a toilet yeah yeah yeah it was at the critics choice
03:56awards yes that's right yeah I'd finished my wee and he went to shake me and washed
04:03your hands yeah well I mean I'd been like drying my hands for like yes three
04:08minutes because I was I have to say hello to Stephen Graham I was very
04:20excited to meet you and then because I kind of already lost my mind I just
04:24turned around when he soon as he was done hi
04:30the etiquette of shaking hands make sure you don't have your knob in it
04:43I like I like that everyone's washing your hands that's good yeah that's the
04:47same night that you met Kaylee is it yeah that night too it was a wild night for me
04:52we were all fanning I fanned over your girlfriend my fiance fanned over you
04:56everyone fanned over each other it was a fanning moment Sonia what oh we were
05:02all fanning over each other fangirling fanboying
05:06I thought he said it was a fanny moment it was a fan we were fanning over each other
05:11like you know Adrian have you been in a toilet with anyone on this side no no
05:20happy yeah good and Kaylee Cuoco everyone loved you as Penny in the Big Bang Theory
05:28thank you oh thank you thank you a lot of years a lot of years a lot of hair a lot of jeans but I felt like it wasn't weird outfits yeah but I knew I knew the Big Bang Theory had been successful
05:42what I didn't realize there are more episodes of the Big Bang Theory than any
05:47other sitcom yes wow yeah 279 we almost made it to 300 yeah we didn't hit I don't
05:53think we hit 300 no 279 according according to my stats you must assume at
06:00some point that everyone has seen an episode of the Big Bang Theory you know I
06:04never assume that but I I do get a lot of knock knock knock pennies wherever I go
06:08but then one person in your life not so familiar oh my my fiance had no idea
06:14about the show when I met him you know he just had never seen it he's not
06:19really he'd never seen it and he brought me the first time he brought me home
06:22actually to meet his family his mom's partner they've been together forever he's
06:27lovely hi John anyway the first time I met him I got introduced and he kept
06:31going oh Penny oh Penny and he kept calling me Penny and I never said anything
06:36about it because I thought oh that's so sweet he loved the show and I could see Tom
06:38like looking around like I can't believe John thinks her name is Penny and so the whole day
06:43goes on but he noticed that I didn't I wasn't bothered I didn't say anything
06:46and then we get in the car that night he's like I told John your name I cannot
06:50believe he called you Penny I don't know where he got that from I'm like I think
06:53he got it from the Big Bang Theory Tom was like what he's like oh he had no
06:58he'd never seen the show Wow didn't know my name on the show I know he still
07:03hasn't seen it yeah he's heard so yeah that's why I was okay with it well I'm sure
07:08he'll enjoy you in your new show vanish which we'll talk about later but we get
07:12started tonight with Stephen Graham's latest it's called the good boy it's in
07:17cinemas from the 20th of March and this is something kind of different for you
07:21it's a it's a genre film so tell us who you play it's a great premise it's a
07:27really strange little film the director young he made it it is it's a it's a
07:32weird film but it's very strange it's kind of like it's an it's northern with
07:38a European sensibility and it's basically a family kidnap a young man and try to
07:49teach him some manners and try to to give him some culture and you know open his
07:54his eyes to the possibilities of what it would be to be a loving care and human
08:00being and the the kind of trio it's Anson Boone and you're reunited with
08:05Andrea Riesberg who's fantastic she's absolutely amazing and Anson is
08:09fantastic as well but also it is funny that the last time you were with address
08:12it was in Matilda yeah yeah we played man and wife and this is very different very
08:20different she's kind of she's fans of Matilda might enjoy it so much because it's
08:26also child cruelty which is what was going on this is you as Chris and Andrea as Catherine
08:38and you're going down to the basement to see Tommy played by Anson Boone here we go
08:43I don't think I sold it right thematically it brings up a lot of issues about you know social
08:55identity about what we're doing with the world these days and also that kind of are you better
09:01with the being in an imprisoned environment what you know or should you be free and be able to fly and
09:07see what's out there do you know what I mean yeah thematically it's quite deep and it's obviously a
09:11different look the wig the glasses wig as well and you've talked on this show before about finding
09:16walks it is a very strong look did you find a walk thank you did you find a walk for Chris I did
09:22find a walk yeah as you know in the house when I create these kind of what I'm most pissed Hannah
09:27and the kids off so much but I'd walk up and down the house until I get it right you know what I
09:31mean I like to get the physicality of it and the cost you wait with the costume department she
09:35gives me the shoes and then I'll I'll just play with it but I found a really interesting yeah it
09:39was yeah it was a weird walk and then I'd be walking the dogs and I'd go right all right
09:43and bonnie clouds I'd run off and I'd get into the and I'd just do the walk and it really changed my
09:48hips and everything yeah it was a bit weird yeah your method steps my method steps and Adrian
09:56we're what you're playing Cyrano and we'll talk about that later but the physical you know defining
10:01the physical thing about Cyrano is the nose so how do you go about kind of choosing wow the nose
10:08good response there Wow it's like a proper yeah big yes no it's a schnoz that's a big
10:19yeah you can smell the coffee in the next did you start bigger and go back or go out that's it very
10:27small and I went in with a little prosthetic very small nose and we tried that for a bit and went
10:31no bigger so we tried a little bit bigger and bigger so we tried it even even bigger and then
10:37I had to rail it in rehearsal when I was fighting just to make sure that it wouldn't fall off oh yeah
10:41we did all the choreography and everything yeah and all of that but you know sometimes I'm on stage
10:45and I turn I can't turn too sharply it's a comedy but when someone speaks yeah I can't go because in the
10:54back of your head thinking it was this kind of constantly so when I turn if somebody says
10:59something really surprising for you Leo how hard is it make that switch from Jack in the White Lotus
11:16to playing kind of very posh in in one day thank you as Dexter I mean it was it was difficult purely
11:24because I had to do it within like two weeks because the chute was crossing over okay so I
11:30had to lose I know like a stone and a half of weight of muscle I mean and you know kind of lose the walk
11:41get rid of the tattoos which are harder to get off than I actually did you but you cut you liked the
11:49tattoos did you do you kind of I loved them I loved yeah I mean well it's not fun getting them on or
11:56getting them off when they're on I would just I would walk around just sit in the chair and just
12:00have a little meditate on when they when they covered them up or when you have to get the tattoos on are
12:04you do you have a lot of tattoos oh okay so you gotta get them covered yeah yeah I do I have a large
12:11one on my back so I went and it's funny the one on my back just shows above my shirt I wish I would
12:15have years ago thought to just go an inch lower never would have had to cover it always just
12:20sticking out at the top yeah just annoying just a little bit is it rude to ask what it is it's
12:25like it covered an old one it just got worse and worse okay before you put one on your back it's
12:42interesting with them on your neck though isn't it yeah yeah because you would probably never put
12:46one on your neck yeah I think I mean the neck was was definitely extreme but I just kind of liked
12:56being I mean some of them were so it says something about the characters isn't it yeah I had um I had
13:03Wendy on my left butt cheek which doesn't actually make it into the show it's not real
13:09no no no it's not real okay so you just have Wendy on your ass for no reason no reason no reason
13:15I like I I you mean today we're gonna see Wendy today there is a there's a couple of bum scenes in
13:24that and I tried to shift Wendy into the shop but she just didn't she didn't make it and is it was it the
13:34name or the logo of the shop it was so that wasn't Wendy's it was just Wendy's oh okay so my
13:41who came up with Wendy I did my my there's a reason for Wendy I think there's some backstory here I think I've
13:48been like watching Breaking Bad and there's a character called Wendy in that show and I just
13:54thought how this kid would have some memory of a woman called Wendy and he'd just get it tattooed on
14:00his bum so Wendy's supporting you in some way so Wendy got me through that whole I don't think any woman
14:08would see that as a compliment that's so lovely you got my name there well you haven't met Wendy
14:15that's all the Wendy's now you talked about the themes of the good boy Steven yes in a way it's all
14:25it's like a kind of a weird twisted companion piece to adolescence isn't it presumably you've all seen
14:30out of the lessons yeah yeah because beyond the obviously huge success of the show I assume what's
14:44really gratifying is the response of audiences and people yeah approaching you and conversations
14:51look don't don't get me wrong you know the awards and everything is wonderful and to be respected by
14:56your peers and admired by your peers and people who you know I've watched you when I was you know
15:00you're a wonderful actor and you're you're a huge inspiration to me do you know what I mean I
15:04remember the play you did with Lenny storm damage which was wonderful absolutely brilliant and it was
15:10beautiful and that was raising social awareness back then do you know what I mean and it was was a
15:14fantastic play Ashley Walters yeah yeah and it was a brilliant play brilliantly written brilliantly
15:19acted and brilliant you know it was a wonderful piece so for me to be a part of work like this which
15:23has a social conscience and can have an impact look there's many supermarkets but Tesco's and
15:29that's where I shop more regularly I'll be in Tesco's and just just getting a shopping and bits and
15:35bobs and a fella will come up Neil just say thank you thank you for the conversation that I had with
15:40me lad the other day yeah we watched your program and you know we started to have a conversation about
15:44stuff and we've never opened up to each other like that yeah and that to me you know that's that's it
15:49that you've achieved every more than you can even dream of yeah I mean what a gift to parents yes it's
15:55such a hard conversation to ever have of course yeah with any parent you know I mean it's a very
16:00difficult conversation and now it's inspired a book I think I've got a lovely fear that was a lovely
16:05thing that's why you're brilliant to your job this is letters to our sons and these are real letters that
16:14you've collected from fathers yeah um it was it was an idea of a you know a friend of mine Judy who
16:19I've known for years she she worked for a publishing company and she she came up with this idea and this
16:23concept through another woman called Ollie who's got a son herself and they approached me and I just
16:29thought it might be a really good opportunity for fathers to be able to write letters to their sons
16:34yeah you know sometimes it's difficult to talk about things isn't it but if you can write it down you
16:39know there's nothing better than the paper yeah the pen and the paper to be able to express your
16:44feelings to use and also I presumably because of some really different experiences different
16:49relationships huge huge you know the scale of its massive some of them are really funny we've got
16:53quite a few from men in prisons which was brilliant you know we reached out right across the board and I'd
16:59say it was from maybe bin men to barristers do you know what I mean so it's a it's a huge collection of
17:04letters something I'm very proud of well you can pre-order this now and the book is raising money
17:09for dad la soul and man up and don't forget you can see Steven in the good boy in cinemas from the
17:1620th of March very good thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you I know I know
17:29Kelly Cuoco brings us a big glossy thriller it's called vanished it's on prime all four episodes are
17:35out on Friday the 27th of February and here's a taste to get us in the mood it is so twisty
17:49tyranny there's lots of kind of big reveals and so you put it on tell us too much about it okay tell us
17:56about your character and just how it starts well it's a lot on a train so yeah he disappears off
18:03the train we spent some time in France and I spend most of it looking for Tom which was I'm searching
18:10for him yeah and she starts kind of unraveling some maybe she doesn't know her boyfriend as as well as
18:16she thinks she does and it's great because it's just it's four eps and you're in I love a good four
18:21episoder in and out you're in and out you don't have to commit too much time yeah it's fast
18:27moving and it looks beautiful with France you know that I was gonna say so if there's the plot but
18:42then there's the settings yeah just gorgeous but but you weren't that keen on going to France it's no
18:48no I was I was excited to go I just had my child I just turned two so it was kind of like it was the
18:53first time I left you know so there was that and then you know deciding do I bring her or my dog a
18:58big decision brought the dog got that taken care of it was fine it was the best thing we could have done
19:05and then I'm like a really weird eater and so I don't like French food so that was tough
19:12oh god I know good noise everyone well done we are European the French made some beautiful food you know
19:21listen no one hates the way I eat more than me it causes me a lot of struggle like I wish I liked
19:27more things but not just the food though not keen on trains what's the problem with trains well
19:32I know I am I am not fun as you can see I get very claustrophobic and very nauseous so I guess I
19:48didn't realize we'd be actually on a train you know and I also not a big this is another thing
20:02I'm not a big preparer this is why I could never do a show like adolescence I hate rehearsal
20:06that was probably a lot of rehearsal is what I'm thinking like a lot of love
20:11like a play that takes a lot of three weeks rehearsal oh my dear god yeah that's a lot of work
20:19and it's impressive it's so you know I realized when I had to get on the train and shoot these
20:27scenes on a moving train and I'm very claustrophobic it was very low and I was running up and down the
20:33train and I guess I just didn't I didn't think about that before I got on there but you know it helps
20:40to cause me to be very dizzy and you know where is Tom you know it was all very real
20:46you weren't acting you just no I was really concerned and dizzy where is Tom get me off this train
20:54this is all I could think of so are you going to do season two is there a season two
20:58I want to stay on land okay mixed reviews for France but I tell you who loves France Adrian Lester
21:07because I didn't realize you are a French film star he is a very a very early job I did was playing an
21:17American record producer in a film French film and the weird thing was I I auditioned for this film
21:23in English met the director and he said very good and did my audition and he said when can you start
21:28and he picked the date and I'm 10 days shooting and I went over and I met the other actors and we did
21:34this read through and went through the scene and I said my lines in English and then he said no
21:39and someone came over with the script oh no no and the whole yes and the lines are in French that is a
21:48nightmare and I can't believe we hadn't worked that out do you know what I mean I'm an American record
21:55producer of course okay you speak English you know I got to the set and it's French comedy like
22:00Comedie Francaise so they speak really fast and we're in the scene
22:04and then I went there was a gap
22:10and I went and said my line it was okay but um shooting we've got a clip
22:30so look what I'll tell you what I'll tell you don't know you're very good in it so it's called
22:42Les Sœurs Soule and the clip the clip we're showing it features Adrian as the American record producer a
22:51woman doing some of the worst lip-syncing I've ever seen and keep your eyes peeled for one of the most
23:00most surprising cameos I don't know if it's a cameo but it's it's you do not expect to see this
23:07first in a French film here we go this is Les Sœurs Soule featuring Adrian Nesson
23:11can we can we can we just can we can we see the kangaroo again
23:20it's a really good look he's really looking yeah he's practiced his walk and everything is really
23:37good that's another thing you should ask apparently he's got he was a um for some reason the husband and
23:47wife in in the film and they had a pet kangaroo and we were doing we did a scene in this this
23:53this scene and we had to do retakes because the kangaroo jumped onto the mixing desk
23:59there was a moment when it was
24:02and I'd waited and I went
24:07it was it was strange and now I'm asking this question and the answer could be yes
24:13Kaylee do you own a kangaroo well it's funny is I would love I have a lot of weird animals but I
24:21would love to get a kangaroo yeah now that I just saw how focused and and work related he was
24:29no I have a lot of strange animals I have a farm at home and we have um all types of farm animals we
24:35have some very unique animals too and pigs and goats you've got something called a zonkey we have a zonkey
24:39everyone thinks it's a myth it's real what we have a picture of a zonkey it's half zebra half donkey
24:46she's real an accident yes you shouldn't do that no no that has to be an accident that's why I saved
24:54it yeah yeah now I get yeah yeah they're all no is a zonkey it's an accident between a zebra and a donkey
25:00no I get that but is the zebra is the zebra the father I'm I was not part of that process so I just came in
25:08later well no because all I know is because I wondered what a zonkey is so I looked it up
25:14you know it does look like he's wearing tights
25:15she does and I uh so a zonkey yeah if so if the parenting is the other way around okay they're
25:22called a deborah they're called a deborah yeah they're called a deborah not making it up not
25:29making it up no someone google that no it's true turn off your phones but it's true
25:38because if the donkey so if the so if the donkey is a dad yeah or or a mother I know it's just the
25:43different parenting okay it's this is a zonkey though this is a zonkey have you got two zonkeys
25:48I have two zonkeys yes that's I mean do they name like a horse they um they donkey you know they
25:54you know they're kind of making a deep donkey sound what do they sound like wow well how would that
26:07sound like don't ask me it's like a you know not a name it's a brave it's like they're like you know
26:12they're aeons yeah yeah you know okay yeah he's so confused
26:18they're not the same thing
26:24just a reminder you can see a gaily in vanished on prime and that's from the 27th of this month very
26:35good news all Adrian Lester is returning to the stage in
26:40Cyrano de Bergerac it's the Royal Shakespeare Company's hit production it's transferring to
26:44London's West End starting June the 13th and it runs to September the 5th at the Noel Coward
26:50Theatre so uh this production so you did it was it last year you did it yeah in the last year in
26:55Stratford so is everyone incoming or is it just you that's unconfirmed oh okay I won't pry
27:03Susanna Fielding is coming back as Roxanne okay so that's confirmed too okay it's the two of you
27:07and if people you know don't know uh tell us something about Cyrano de Bergerac and also
27:13is this a new translation or a new adaptation it's a new adaptation um uh worked from the original by
27:20Simon Evans and Deborah Stevenson and um so it's it's a fresh one and it's the story of
27:27Cyrano de Bergerac is kind of it's one of the most romantic stories ever written um
27:31he's a poet philosopher fighter he has a big nose he's insecure about it and he's in love
27:37with a childhood friend Roxanne um but she doesn't love him he's in the friend zone but she falls in love
27:44with his um soldier friend Christian and she wants Christian to write to her but Christian can't write
27:53he's terrible with poetry he's terrible with language so Cyrano writes love letters on Christian's
27:58behalf for Roxanne and she falls in love with Christian because of his language and because of
28:04the letters and that's the way the triangle works it's so sad it is actually very funny there's funny
28:10bits too yeah and the the fights are kind of doubly difficult because you're not just fighting
28:15no I there's a very famous bit in the play where someone insults Cyrano's nose and he says that's
28:22not good enough and he comes up with many insults himself and they're all rhyming um some of the
28:28miambic pentameters are a kind of poem some of them are quatrains and he he's really really quick but in
28:35our production I'm fighting another character while I'm delivering this poetry wow so we've worked out
28:41on each beat parry where the line comes when I dodge when I duck so we we I mean we did a lot
28:47of rehearsal and the guys back there you can see is Matt Mordech who's a stunt trained actor and he is
28:53brilliant and we have to be so the weapons are real you know they're dangerous and we have to be so
28:57exact with it and every word I say is times to every movement he makes and my response to him
29:03have you ever hit him accidentally nearly nearly and he's nearly so far
29:11nearly we've never actually um never actually made contact no and reading about your life adrian
29:16you grew up in birmingham yeah and that idea of acting and and the stage and the theater it did
29:23kind of change your life having that available to you yeah yeah it did i spent a lot of time at a
29:27place called the midlands art center where i could go i didn't we didn't really have drama or that
29:33music really at school at all so the place i had to go to experience that was the midlands art center
29:38and every summer i joined the birmingham youth theater and every summer every um term break i was
29:43just there and the people there were amazing this kid from a council estate up the road and they would
29:48just open the doors and let me come in and i could go to dance classes i've done tai chi there ballet
29:54puppetry workshops learned the piano a little bit you know just every everything to do with music and
30:00performance and i and i from that i just had this this sort of spark and i just thought i i love
30:04this i've got to keep doing it wow has steven you had a kind of similar experience in liverpool didn't
30:08you uh starting young on the stage yeah through school but then with the everyman youth theater
30:13you know that was for me that was that changed my life yeah absolutely there was a wonderful man
30:17and it is a real name jerry pantomime he he it's not jerry's true name but that was the name he you
30:24you know he used that name jerry pantomime um and i've said it often do you know what i mean look
30:29i was a kid in a little adidas trackie and a pair of trainees and a lacoste t-shirt and there was
30:34kids with pink hair there was lads with jeans on with a flower in the back pocket there was a huge
30:39community of kids from all over the place do you know what i mean and jerry created this wonderful
30:43atmosphere where we could create stuff yeah and it was a place to go and just just be creative and for me
30:50it absolutely transformed my life yeah my new theater and i wonder leo did you resist becoming
30:55an actor because your parents are you coming from a theater family yeah yeah it was in my family so i
31:01did it was kind of the last thing i wanted to do for some reason you know even though i kind of grew
31:05up watching my dad on stage and um and my set that it was um yeah i think they they've had a kind of
31:13said whatever you do don't be a fucking actor so what were you going to do i mean i was going to be a
31:20i kind of wanted to be a pe teacher my hero what was always my my pe teacher um when did you decide
31:28not to do that costello oh jack costello yeah real name real name yeah great name isn't it i don't
31:35know i just i loved sport and so i i just kind of wanted to do that but then i realized you need
31:39to be really get really good grades in science which i didn't get um because where did katie you
31:48also chose between sport and acting did you uh i did i really thought i was going to be a
31:52professional tennis player that was like my dream but not like a pipe dream you were very good at
31:56tennis no i was good yeah i was good i played very young and i played all through my juniors and
32:00traveled all over the nation and did all that all that stuff when i was when i was seriously yeah
32:05it was serious um and then uh yeah i kind of i kind of had to decide because i realized being a
32:11professional athlete is a lot of rehearsal so yeah i gave up on that dream but uh yeah
32:22but also i found interesting when you gave up on that dream you gave up on it so i yeah i'm kind of
32:28i'm very all or nothing i didn't want to touch a racket ever again i was i play a lot like i traveled and
32:33i loved it and trained and all this stuff and so when i was done i was done and i got my first tv
32:38show right after that and then i said i'm not going to play tennis ever again and i really didn't
32:43and then i just recently actually when covet happened i i i was like i'm kind of good at
32:48this i should do this again because everyone was playing tennis because you could like go outside
32:51right so i was like i can do that so i started playing again and i was like i i could i could be
32:57an adult player now yeah you know it wasn't like riding a bike were you just good again i was very sore
33:02like everything hurt okay but you know if i could play yeah competitive against that's the problem
33:08it's the competitiveness okay i i'm so not fun to play anything with i want to win everything so 10
33:14it's like not fun yeah no one wants to play anything with me to play games nothing i will beat you down
33:21i will ruin your life i will ruin your family's life it will get so dark that i just have to really
33:31i can't and none of my friends want to play with me game night they're like no one wants to be on my
33:36team so i want to win this right now i don't even know how but i'm going to oh you're winning
33:43i'm going to win this somehow you can see adrian reprise's role as sereno de bergerac at the
33:55noel coward theater london from june tickets are on sale now yeah right uh i turn to leo woodall there
34:07you are uh his latest series is called vladimir it's coming to netflix on march the 5th uh that
34:15gives you some idea get it yeah so you you it honestly took me a minute to get that there's a
34:27difference between a horse and a donkey so you are vladimir so uh who is he
34:37and uh why is that the poster um and i can't i don't know why that is but um vladimir it's it's
34:46about a an english professor at a university in i think on the east coast and um this younger
34:55professor joins vladimir vladimir um and she kind of she develops a bit of a fixation a bit of a sort of
35:04uh you know a little mini crush but it it snowballs yeah um you've got an obsession really couldn't you
35:12i mean yeah i didn't want to say obsession but i'm glad you did yeah and the the older professor is
35:18played by uh racial vice yes what a great actor all yeah i mean all the men in my life now hate me
35:24yeah most of the women as well yeah she's wonderful yeah that was that was a lot of fun
35:30i mean poor woman she had to they were they were like this isn't really a spoiler there's quite a lot
35:35of moments where she snaps into a sort of fantasy and it's maybe like a part of my ear or my knee
35:44and so you know this incredibly seasoned respected woman is now just staring at my knee and like
35:53you know gazing at it and has to do it sort of 25 times we've got a clip uh this is you
36:00with rachel weiss and her husband played by john slattery did your arms hurt in that scene dude you know
36:11when you make a choice you make a choice and you have to do it for like eight hours it was so
36:15did you make that yeah i made that choice and i tried thinking i was like his arms can't feel good
36:20i was thinking he must be really wrinkly now
36:24yes and yes yes all of the above and in a lot of pain yeah and uh in this you're uh you're acting
36:31with the great racial vice but in tuner a movie you have coming out in may uh you work with a legend
36:38do you work with dustin hoffman yeah yeah yeah that was there he is yeah wow that was actually a
36:43really funny day because um we do these house calls and he um you play piano tuners we play piano
36:49tuners we go to these big houses and he whatever um so the camera's pointing at us and he obviously
36:56there's no character behind the camera so he just kind of looks up and goes hello
37:03oh and then realizes that the camera is the sort of character and he's kind of dips his head and
37:09he's i would like one more it was really sweet it was wonderful to work with it was it was very it
37:16was so surreal it was so surreal tuners out in may and uh vladimir starring nita woodall is on netflix
37:23from march the 5th excellent okay it is time for music this brit and grammy award-winning band have
37:32sold over 40 million albums worldwide here performing orange county it is gorillas
37:39featuring kaira jackson and anoushka shankar come on over i think uh damon you're coming over
37:46anoushka kaira come on over guys
37:51so beautiful hello congratulations very nice to meet you hello it's been a minute come in come in come in
38:01kaira anoushka damon there's everybody else uh thank you so much for that beautiful performance sit
38:07yourselves down uh and uh that gorgeous song is off the new album it's called the mountain and it's
38:15out on the 27th of february yay yeah come on yeah give a applause and damon welcome back it's been a
38:25minute thank you um well i mean i you know you just haven't invited me back well you're here now i am i
38:31remember the last time i came out i had to call you in a nightclub to get you get do you remember
38:36i want to hear more about cajoling what i was in a nightclub yeah i was with like in a nightclub
38:40with you and i was like why am i never on your show and i have no recollection of that it must be
38:48it was one of those nightclubs yes it must be how funny well i may have blanked it from my mind
38:53of course any awkward but listen anoushka how did you get involved in this project i i tend to be a
38:59little mindful about the cross-cultural collaborations like are we are we entering another like flying
39:04carpet incense lsd moment you know so when people reach out it's a bit like let's see what this is
39:09about but it was gorillas and and and they've always approached collaboration a certain way so i kind
39:14of knew that going into it but then i was really really like it was just a great recording day i spent the
39:19day with you you know that you were there um i was kind of there i was just kind of going on just
39:27looking at you going well no but it was it was really from the ground up like he was there for
39:31the whole day of recording which sometimes you would think wouldn't happen on it no seriously it
39:36was nice and i just wondered watching it it's sitar yes so because your dad ravi was so like that yeah
39:43was so famous you can play like that did you resist did you resist playing it or did you start playing
39:48it from a very young age my parents did that really brilliant south indian thing uh like south indian
39:52south asian indian thing of um no one's going to force you to play you don't have to play if you
39:58don't want of course we will be very disappointed if you don't it's totally your choice so i was like
40:05i'll keep trying i guess um and so i kept playing and luckily for me i did it long enough that i fell in
40:11love with it and that was that and care am i right you were a proper are a proper gorillas fan oh yeah
40:18i'm 26 so i grew up you know listening to gorillas and blur and i don't usually admit this and i am now
40:26doing it on a very public scale but when i was younger i used to be on tumblr i grew up in the tumblr
40:33era and i had a whole blog dedicated to like classic rock and rock bands and so of course like
40:43you know blur was featured on my blog on tumblr when i was like 12.
40:50can i just ask you where did gorillas come from what was the concept because me dad introduced me
40:55to gorillas oh really he said you'll never guess who this is and it blew my mind right i mean i think
40:58you're the genius i always have but where did that concept come from for gorillas thank you for
41:03letting me ask that question it's an open forum steven it's an open forum i was living with jamie
41:10hewlett the cartoonist yeah and literally we were sitting on a sofa not dissimilar to this one and and um
41:19i bought this panasonic eight channel flat tv like maybe the first second one in the country
41:25uh so we just had this empty flat and this huge great television we're just watching
41:30just endless stuff you know and we kind of came to the conclusion there was a lot of manufactured
41:36stuff out there so let's do something really kind of interesting with manufacture you know and kind of
41:44the artificial you know and you created them characters and put them together in the button yeah
41:48and we should tell everyone uh gorillas are going on tour uh you're doing your biggest ever gig i think
41:54tottenham hotspur stadium uh a uh a music large music venue in north london
42:09all right well listen uh thank you so much for that performance uh good luck with the tour
42:13good luck with the album uh kara anushka and damon and give it up for gorillas everybody
42:22that is it for tonight no time for red chairs i'm afraid so please thank the rest of my guests leo woodall
42:28adrian lester
42:34kaylee croco
42:37and mr stephen rome
42:41join me next week with chef gordon ramsay
42:44brat queen charlie xcx hollywood star jennifer garner oscar winner benicio del toro and music
42:51from the mighty foo fighters i'll see you then good night everybody bye
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