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Michael Jackson: The Trial - Season 1 Episode 3 - The Prosecution
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00:00When you become an icon, like an international phenomenon, the jealousy that's involved,
00:15I mean, I've seen some serious jealousy.
00:18They've been very, very cruel and mean to me.
00:22If they don't think I hear it and see it, I do.
00:25I do.
00:30If people could only see way before any of this crap that they started an allegation and all these lies and stories,
00:49if they could see all the hospitals and all the orphanages and all those things that I've done,
00:54if they could see that, I think they would totally have a different opinion.
01:00But people, they don't want the good stories.
01:03They don't want the good stories, they don't want the bad stories, they don't want the bad stories, they don't want the bad stories, they don't want the bad stories, they don't want the bad stories, they don't want the bad stories, they don't want the bad stories, they don't want the bad stories, they don't want the bad stories, they don't want the bad stories, they don't want the bad stories, they don't want the bad stories, they don't want the bad stories, they don't want the bad stories, they don't want the bad stories, they don't want the bad stories, they don't want the bad stories, they don't want the bad stories.
01:21Leave Michael alone! Leave Michael alone!
01:26Breaking news once again, so stand by here on Fox News Live.
01:29Michael Jackson, of course, facing seven counts of child molestation,
01:33two counts of administering an intoxicating agent to a child. He's facing 20 years.
01:38Fans started arriving in the middle of the night to get a good seat or stand right next to the courthouse.
01:45The famous arraignment. Oh, my gosh. The entire world converged on Santa Maria.
01:51More than a thousand journalists.
01:55I was there for all of it.
01:59He is fighting these molestation charges and he is going to do everything he can.
02:03Michael's innocent! Michael's innocent!
02:06I think on my deathbed, certain events will flash before my eyes because it was that intense.
02:14Michael Jackson is motorcade winding its way to the courthouse under police motorcycle escort.
02:21It was about four or five miles to get to the courthouse and the cops with their sirens blaring.
02:29There were six motorcycle cops. Not even the president gets that.
02:35It was a zoo.
02:36What can you tell us outside there, the Santa Maria courthouse? We heard cheers.
02:45We arrived about 8.45. Michael did stop to acknowledge the hundreds of fans.
02:51It was just sheer craziness.
02:55I was there trying to record it with my videographer.
02:58His entourage is coming up.
03:01And Michael was telling his videographer, get that, get that.
03:05Michael Jackson was orchestrated.
03:11There are people out there from all over the world.
03:14So I think it's quite a spontaneous outpouring of support that is nice to see.
03:20A lot of those fans were bust up there from Las Vegas, from San Diego, from Los Angeles.
03:30So while his attorney called it a spontaneous outpouring of love, it was actually highly orchestrated.
03:36It shows Michael Jackson's genius at spectacle.
03:44Members of a black separatist group, the Nation of Islam flanked the streets.
03:49They are reported to be protecting and possibly advising the singer.
03:54Jermaine Jackson brings the Nation of Islam.
03:57And when they marched ahead of Michael, it was the most amazing sight I had ever seen.
04:03This show of force.
04:04There is a strategy behind trying to galvanize the black community.
04:12White folks are doing this.
04:13White folks are prosecuting him.
04:15White folks are accusing him.
04:17And he's come to us for help.
04:19We're gonna help.
04:21And Michael knew that.
04:23And he used that.
04:26As we're arriving at the courthouse, there were three helicopters flying over, circling.
04:31There were a few thousand demonstrators, literally screaming.
04:37This was child molestation.
04:40He's a 15-year-old kid.
04:43He's a 15-year-old kid who's a cancer survivor.
04:45You didn't see him crying or holding his head down because he knew he was innocent.
04:58During his time in court, Michael would call me at 2 and 3 in the morning.
05:03You've gotta go out there and tell people I'm innocent.
05:06Michael feels very confident in his defense team.
05:12And we have a long way to go.
05:16And that's what I did.
05:17Michael Jackson leaving Judge Rodney Melville's courtroom.
05:24We know that Jackson nodded when he asked if he understood the charges.
05:28He said, not guilty when asked for his plea.
05:31Michael Jackson walks out of court, surrounded by his family, surrounded by bodyguards.
05:37And when he's about to get into his SUV limo, all hell breaks loose.
05:41Oh my goodness, look at this. He's jumping on top of the car.
05:46Oh yeah, we see him.
05:47He is truly performing for his fans, truly performing.
05:51The crowd is just going completely insane.
05:55And he's just turning around and kind of doing a move.
05:59Consequently, what was happening outside court made the headlines as opposed to what was happening inside court.
06:05Brilliant strategy.
06:07Pull focus. Pull focus.
06:11A lot of people said, hey, that's just disrespectful.
06:27That's not the way you would conduct yourself.
06:29You would conduct yourself with decorum.
06:31Any attorney will tell his client, no, no, no, you show respect.
06:33You don't do.
06:34Uh-uh, not Michael Jackson.
06:37If you want the world to know you are innocent, you show your face to everybody.
06:45That you are not afraid.
06:49And that's what he did.
06:50I love the fire and the majesty when you can command an audience.
07:04I love my fans, the loyal ones, that no matter what, they're there, man.
07:11They're thick and thin.
07:13Whatever you do, they're right there with you.
07:16They love me unconditionally.
07:19I'm like a lion.
07:20Nobody can hurt me.
07:21Nothing can harm me.
07:22I think people believe what they want to believe.
07:33And it's not necessarily based on logic.
07:36I think it's based on emotion.
07:39He had the ability to be able to convince them of things that are otherwise unbelievable.
07:47And I think that created for him a sense of invincibility.
07:50But from the prosecution standpoint, we knew we were dealing with a pedophile.
07:56And he was a pedophile who could abuse children with almost with impunity.
08:00And we felt that we had enough cooperative evidence to be able to win the case.
08:05Michael was feeling frightened.
08:19Pure, plain and simple.
08:21He was scared to death.
08:22He called in the middle of the night, so upset.
08:29Brian, why are they doing this to me?
08:34Because your name is Michael Jackson.
08:38If your name were Smith Jones, they'd throw this case out in a hot second.
08:43This is a fraudulent scam.
08:49Gavin Arvizu was misrepresenting, telling fantasies and false statements.
08:57He says, how are we going to win, Brian?
09:00And I said, we have to overturn every stone.
09:05It means subpoenaing and interviewing every witness there is.
09:10And Michael said, do it, Brian.
09:13That's what you're going to do.
09:15I said, you bet.
09:16Another allegation of sexual abuse was going to bankrupt Michael Jackson.
09:23And they knew it.
09:25They knew what the consequence of, of a child coming forward and making another allegation of child sexual abuse was going to be.
09:34Because of what happened with Jordan Chandler back in 93.
09:37Pop superstar Michael Jackson is facing allegations of child abuse.
09:47And Los Angeles police have launched a criminal investigation.
09:50This is the boy at the center of the allegations.
09:5313-year-old Jordan Chandler was pictured with Michael Jackson on holiday in Monte Carlo earlier this year.
09:58In 1993, I was Michael Jackson's personal chambermaid for his bedroom.
10:13I think he chose me because I was quiet.
10:17And I think he thought that he could keep his secrets with me.
10:22Hold on, let me use the inhaler.
10:40Sorry.
10:42Sometimes when I think of him, I get asthma.
10:45Sorry.
10:47Sorry, I'm probably crazy.
10:49I don't know.
10:50There were always little boys.
11:00Different little boys.
11:01That never led.
11:05Running around the property.
11:10At the theater.
11:11Watching movies.
11:13With no parents around.
11:15And I think he'd get a kick out of watching them fight for his attention.
11:28There was one day when Mr. Jackson had come into his bedroom with one of his little friends.
11:35And his little friend was Jordy Chandler.
11:37I was cleaning the stairwell.
11:38And so I kind of glanced.
11:39And where they stood, they couldn't see me.
11:40And I saw Mr. Jackson kissing Jordy on the cheek near his mouth.
11:58And I saw his hand by his crotch.
12:01And I was bothered by seeing that.
12:04Very, very bothered.
12:06I didn't, I didn't, I thought that I didn't want to believe Michael Jackson was,
12:15was a man who had a problem with little boys.
12:18They had been in a jacuzzi.
12:25They changed their clothes and they took off.
12:28It was, it was an awful feeling.
12:31I can't even explain it.
12:33And then, you know, I kept thinking, well, maybe, maybe that's not what I'm seeing.
12:40You know, you start questioning yourself for what you did see.
12:44And, you know, and then you think, well, you can't just call the police over there.
12:49They're going to think you're crazy.
13:00My detective supervisor says, hey Rose, I have a case that I need you to investigate.
13:05And we have allegations from a young victim that Michael Jackson sexually molested him on numerous occasions.
13:16So I'm like, Michael Jackson, you're kidding, right?
13:19It was almost unbelievable.
13:24The media, they found out right away.
13:27So it was all over the news.
13:29The very same day, we went out to the victim's home.
13:35I introduced myself and then began my interview.
13:40One of the first things he talked about being in Las Vegas with Michael Jackson.
13:47The parents became very comfortable with Michael Jackson and allowed the victim to spend time with Michael alone.
14:10They were seeing, hugging and touching.
14:19Jackson was talking to the kid and the kid was overwhelmed, according to him, you know, seeing his star and being able to touch him and say, wow.
14:34This is the grooming process.
14:39That night in his suite, Michael asked him, come on, let's watch a movie.
14:57The movie was The Exorcist.
15:08He was petrified.
15:10Michael said, would you like to stay here, sleep with me?
15:16And they did.
15:17The victim described the abuse initially began with fondling, kissing.
15:30Later on, it progressed to more aggressive sexual contact.
15:38When mom found out that the child had slept with Michael Jackson, she became pretty upset.
15:45Whenever he was confronted by a parent, Michael would start crying.
15:51He made himself the victim.
15:54You know, how can you think this of me?
15:56Oh my God, I would never do anything like that.
15:58You know, I love children.
16:00You have to trust me.
16:06Children, I think, can be very loyal.
16:09A lot of adults, they sell out to what they think people want to hear.
16:16A good child will not do that.
16:19You show them a good time, the next day they're all over you with love and hugs and kisses.
16:26Michael Jackson today refused to comment on the police investigation as he prepared for the first stage of his world tour in Thailand.
16:32I remember when the allegations came out, the Jackson family, they held a press conference.
16:41We join you here today as a family united.
16:45A family that has struggled from the bottom up.
16:49Family felt like somebody was trying to shake him down.
16:52Michael has been made a victim and cruel, obvious attempt to take advantage of his fame and success.
17:02Most important thing to them was that this image they had to protect.
17:09Certainly in the black community, they were always like, we're the black Kennedys.
17:16We're America's royalty.
17:17Believe me, in 1993, the Jackson family was extremely powerful.
17:24And boy, oh boy, did they ever come to his defense.
17:30Jackson's Mr. Fix-It, private investigator Anthony Pelicano, one of Hollywood's most powerful people, called in to do damage control.
17:37The strategy, it was about protecting the golden goose, number one, but also protecting the family's name.
17:47Now you're seeing him start to take on this victimhood mentality, this victim mentality.
17:55It's not me, it's somebody else who's the bad guy.
17:59Good morning, everyone. The Michael Jackson child sex abuse investigation is expanding.
18:07Authorities are looking into his relationships now with at least four boys.
18:11The names were given by the victim's mom.
18:18She has a list of all the children that they met.
18:22There were a lot of times where we went to locations to interview people.
18:30Anthony Pelicano was there before we were.
18:33First was Wade Robson.
18:37Michael was helping him with his music career that he brought in from Australia because Michael saw the talent that he had.
18:44When we got there, he refused to open the door at the beginning.
18:51They basically, you know, said, look, Anthony Pelicano was here. We spoke to him. He says that we're not obligated to speak to the police.
19:01He's working for Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson never abused me.
19:06Wade Robson denied everything.
19:09Then Mr. Pelicano put the children on TV.
19:12I know Michael very well. I know he wouldn't do anything like that.
19:18Has he ever tried to do anything with you that would even be considered questionable?
19:25No, nothing.
19:27With Brett Barnes, it was the same thing. He's a great man and we don't have anything to say.
19:34When you'd have sleepovers and you'd stay in the same room or the same bed, did that seem unusual to you at all?
19:42No, because I slept on one side of it, he slept on the other, and that was that.
19:47It was ruthless with, you know, what they did. They really just had absolutely no regard.
19:53They all negated that they were victims.
20:03Things at Neverland changed dramatically.
20:07Michael brought these seven bodyguards back, and they would harass the employees.
20:17They had guns.
20:20They'd point them at people. They didn't care.
20:23They'd do whatever they can do to scare you to just shut the hell up.
20:27One day I was in his bedroom when he was standing by his bed, and out of the blue, he says, Adrian, you know, if you ever say or do anything that I don't like, all I have to do is tell security.
20:44They would take care of you, but it wouldn't come from me.
20:48I thought, you're threatening me.
20:50And then I got a subpoena, and I had to give a deposition.
21:01My head was spinning.
21:07I was questioned about what I had seen with Mr. Jackson and Jordy.
21:13I was young, I was scared, very mixed up, and Michael had some kind of control over me, and I didn't say what I should have said, which was the truth.
21:34And I held it back.
21:35Amid all Michael Jackson's troubles, it finally seemed he'd gotten his family in line behind him, except, of course, for the renegade LaToya.
21:49Michael is my brother.
21:51I loved him a great deal.
21:53But I cannot and I will not be a silent collaborator of his crimes against small, innocent children.
22:00What 35-year-old man is going to take a little boy and stay with him for 30 days?
22:08It blew everyone away.
22:11The family is horrified and angry at the same time.
22:15There's no validity to what she is saying. It's absolutely not true. My brother is not a child molester.
22:22LaToya is lying, and I'll tell her to her face she's lying.
22:26LaToya was ostracized for that.
22:30And not only was she ostracized from the family, but fans turned on her in droves.
22:46Michael was raised by a very pious mother.
22:49I mean, any time I walked in on her, she was reading the Bible.
22:53And Michael was raised in that milieu.
22:55He was deeply connected to his mother, who offered unconditional love and acceptance.
23:00All the stuff that goes on about my family and about Michael, it really hurts.
23:15When they were talking about him, about the child molestation thing, it makes me angry.
23:21Because he needed someone to help him to protect him.
23:24The family of a teenage boy is dropping its charge that Michael Jackson molested the boy.
23:34The case was settled, in secret, reportedly for millions.
23:37The resolution of this case is in no way an admission of guilt by Michael Jackson.
23:44By Michael Jackson.
23:45I felt the victim was very credible.
23:47But once that was settled, our case was gone.
23:52It was killed.
23:53Case closed.
23:54Case closed.
23:55One afternoon, I was cleaning in Michael's room.
24:06And he came up to me and he said, Adrian, this is for you.
24:10And he handed me an index card and he wrote on it, Adrian, thanks for everything.
24:17I opened it and it was three $100 bills.
24:22I felt like that was a payoff to cover up for him.
24:27Kind of sad, so I don't know.
24:38Can you guys hold on?
24:39Because my eyes feel like they're glossy.
24:42Because I feel like stupid.
24:47Just dumb mistakes you make in life that, you know, you shouldn't do sometimes.
24:51And I did it.
24:52But you live and learn.
24:57Is that restroom open?
25:00Sure.
25:01Okay.
25:02Let me just, because I don't want, I don't want that to...
25:13Back in 1993, George Chandler became one of the wealthiest 13-year-olds in America overnight with the settlement of that case.
25:23Did I feel the justice wasn't done?
25:24Sure.
25:26But the Arvisa family was very different.
25:31They were determined that they weren't going to take money.
25:35Gavin was going to testify.
25:36I'm very different.
25:50I don't follow a trail.
25:51I make the path.
25:53I'm an innovator.
25:54A pioneer.
25:56But have you had to pay a price because of that?
25:58Yes, I have.
25:59Terrible price.
26:01Terrible price.
26:03Racism, jealousy, just hate.
26:05Just evil.
26:07But I'll never lose it.
26:09Because it's, um...
26:10It's where my heart is.
26:11After five weeks of jury selection, the trial of the singer Michael Jackson will begin in California later today.
26:24Celebrity justice correspondent Jane Velez Mitchell has been following the case.
26:28She joins us from Santa Barbara.
26:30This is a Shakespearean tragedy.
26:32It's an American tragedy.
26:34It's a human tragedy.
26:35There was a certain sense of privilege of being able to cover it.
26:40What do we know about the 12-year-old?
26:41Uh, the story today is he's a cancer survivor.
26:44There was so much media there, you would have thought it was like a national political convention.
26:49Michael Jackson arriving with his mother and brother Jermaine was greeted by both cheers and jeers.
26:55The entire world was focused on whether Michael Jackson is or is not a pedophile.
27:00This was the most expensive prosecution in the history of Santa Barbara County.
27:10Michael Jackson's word against theirs.
27:13They say he exposes kids to alcohol, porn, and strange sexual behavior.
27:19He is very serious, subdued.
27:21He came in, he waved briefly to his fans.
27:23He came in with Jermaine, his brother, and his mother who were in the...
27:26He was elaborately dressed.
27:28Sort of a legal thing.
27:30He also wore a band, and I guess the significance of the band was for him saying, I'm innocent.
27:35I'm innocent!
27:37From everything I've seen and I've heard and I've followed, he's in it, he's, there's no way.
27:41He's guilty, you know.
27:43Michael!
27:44Michael!
27:46The sale of his records soared.
27:49I said, Michael, your records are selling like hotcakes.
27:52Your fans believe in you.
27:54Michael!
27:56And I am going to prove you innocent.
27:59The jury in the Michael Jackson trial will hear two very different stories when opening statements begin today.
28:05The defense is expected to describe Jackson as the victim of a money hungry mom who coached her son to lie for cash.
28:11The prosecution, on the other hand, will paint Jackson as a wicked pedophile who got a sick boy drunk to molest him.
28:17Did I ever feel that we had it in the bag? No, not at all. Not at all.
28:22I knew that ultimately, for a jury, it would be very easy for them to absolve themselves of any of the responsibility of him going off into prison.
28:33That was my biggest fear.
28:37Now it's all up to them, the jury. Four men, eight women.
28:41You're very conscious of what you're doing and what the magnitude of your participation is.
28:47It's Michael Jackson's legacy up for grabs.
28:52Is he going to be remembered as this person that just loved children or one of the world's greatest entertainers who was a child molester?
29:04It was Martin Bashir's documentary, Living with Michael Jackson, which prompted an investigation which led to this trial.
29:13When people hear that children from other families have come and they've stayed in your house, they've stayed in your bedroom.
29:22Well, very few.
29:24But, you know, some have.
29:26I thought that that was good, compelling evidence for us. It's the admission that he sleeps with kids.
29:31Is that really appropriate for a man, a grown man, to be doing that? How do you respond to that?
29:37I feel sorry for them because that's judging someone who wants to really help people.
29:42Why can't you share your bed?
29:44The most loving thing to do is to share your bed with someone.
29:48You know?
29:49You really think that?
29:50Yeah.
29:52Martin Bashir's reaction to it, I thought was the reaction a reasonable person would have.
29:57How do you justify having children in your bed?
30:01What other adult man do you know anywhere in the world who does that other than a pedophile?
30:07Who would you be willing to let your children sleep with in terms of an adult man?
30:13And the answer is nobody.
30:15The defense set out to undermine Martin Bashir's credibility, bombarding him with questions, most of which he refused to answer, citing a journalist's right to protect his sources.
30:26Jackson and Gavin had a very emotional connection.
30:35When they first met, Gavin was recovering from cancer, he had been horribly sick, and Michael Jackson was there to offer support.
30:42Gavin said Michael would do things that would take down inhibitions, and then it escalates into increasingly sexual language.
30:57So he's desensitizing kids.
31:02He makes them feel like they're culpable.
31:05He uses the word, we.
31:09We're doing this.
31:10We'd be in trouble.
31:12He incorporates the child in all of the misbehavior.
31:20You're already in trouble for drinking alcohol, watching porn.
31:26Like, there's already a million things your mom can never know about by the time you're abused.
31:34Michael Jackson's public persona was the person who just loved children.
31:39And what he was trying to convince people of was that he really was the modern-day Peter Pan.
31:46But there's no such thing as Peter Pan.
31:48What he was always doing was looking for a child that he could eventually get into his bed.
31:56And, of course, it was Gavin who was the target of his attentions.
32:01For Gavin, it was worse than getting cancer, which, how can you say that?
32:08How can anybody say that about anything?
32:10I know Gavin, and Gavin's just, he's just a very truthful person.
32:20He isn't the person that wants to hang on to a lot of baggage.
32:26He's just gonna confront what this is and deal with the repercussions.
32:30Hey, little guy.
32:31The key witnesses in this extraordinary trial whisked into court this morning through a side entrance.
32:44Gavin, Michael Jackson's accuser.
32:47It's the big moment of the trial.
32:49The accuser is taking the stand.
32:52The heart of the testimony is going to be delivered by the accuser on this day.
32:56I was standing right there outside the courthouse waiting for Michael Jackson to arrive.
33:02And that is the day that Michael Jackson doesn't come to court.
33:06His face etched with anxiety, Michael Jackson's lawyer waits for a client who's gone missing.
33:13The judge says,
33:15You better get to court within the hour or I'm going to arrest you.
33:20We're just waiting on pins and needles.
33:22Literally staring at where the car is supposed to show up.
33:25Everybody's like,
33:26Is he going to show?
33:27Isn't he going to show?
33:28What on earth is going on here?
33:32There was this giant motorcade.
33:35Helicopters above as Michael Jackson raced from the hospital to the courthouse.
33:42They were driving up the 101 freeway at 110 miles an hour.
33:47Because the judge said,
33:48If you're not here in an hour, I'm forfeiting your bail.
33:51Somebody was going to get killed.
33:52Somebody was going to get killed.
33:53I was furious.
33:54I was furious.
33:55Judge, you have to understand this man's life and the people surrounding him.
33:59Nope.
34:00An hour.
34:01That's it.
34:02It was like watching a movie unfold, but you're part of the movie.
34:13A strange day was just about to get even stranger.
34:16After a while, he shows up and he gets out very slowly in his pajamas.
34:29All the focus shifts to outside court, not to the little boy waiting in the wings to testify and accuse Michael Jackson of molestation.
34:38Imagine what he was going through.
34:42A couple of ways to look at this.
34:45First of all, he really was hurt and needed to get to the hospital.
34:48The other is that maybe it's just a ploy to drum up some kind of sympathy from the jury.
34:53A cynic would say, brilliant orchestration to destabilize the accuser.
34:59I mean, this guy knows how to direct the attention to him and away from what's happening inside court.
35:08And he did it over and over and over again.
35:12What's this kid have to say?
35:13Well, I'll tell you, he comes across as a very believable, articulate and sympathetic witness.
35:18This boy has been waiting in the wings for this moment and his moment has come.
35:24It's kind of strange.
35:26You know, here we said, you know, 20 years later, and I'm still remembering how I felt.
35:35He absolutely looked believable to me.
35:38To me, he appeared to be a child that was going through this really terrible struggle to admit that, as a boy, he had been molested by a man.
36:00Now you have to tell your story in front of the world, talk about all these things that you did.
36:05You know, that's really hard to do.
36:10It's the worst thing that a boy would ever have to say out loud.
36:15It's why most men go to their deaths with these secrets.
36:19And now the race is on.
36:20Can Jackson's defense sufficiently discredit a child witness over the next few days without upsetting him?
36:35We went to trial with the molestations that took place in the three week period after the Bashir documentary.
36:40We believe that he was molesting Gavin prior to that as well.
36:46But I think that the bulk of the molestation and all of the charged counts of the molestation occurred during the three week period.
36:55Why would he do it with that focus of attention?
36:57The answer is he can't help himself.
36:59He was a pedophile.
37:00Michael Jackson's lawyers are taking aim at his accuser.
37:05Jackson's lawyer's clear intention is to paint this boy as someone whose word the jury simply cannot afford to trust.
37:11We asked the prosecution when it was that Michael Jackson molested Gavin Arvizo.
37:18One incident was February 21st, they said.
37:22The family was at the ranch. Gavin was in bed with Michael.
37:26And Star, the brother, came up the stairway and Star saw Michael masturbating the boy in bed.
37:34I said, really?
37:35I have here an article from the Palm Beach newspaper, February 22, that the day before, Michael Jackson was seen shopping in Palm Beach, Florida.
37:47Now, how was it that he was at Neverland Ranch on the 21st?
37:52Bingo. I got him.
37:54Michael was telling the truth.
37:56These accusers were not.
37:57It's a tough thing for kids to come forward and publicly talk about having been victim of sex crime.
38:07Very often, the victims of sexual abuse can't say with certainty the details of what had happened on this occasion or that occasion or the next occasion.
38:16It's just the nature of the phenomena.
38:19This isn't a whodunit where there's clearly a crime and one or more victims.
38:22This is a, did it really happen?
38:24Everything about this case is, um, confounding.
38:31There's the innocent explanation and the sinister explanation.
38:36Is Gavin the accuser credible? Is Michael Jackson credible?
38:41You decide.
38:42The defense in the Michael Jackson trial suffered a big setback today.
38:53The judge said he will allow the prosecution to present evidence that Jackson has been accused of molesting children before.
39:00What we were able to bring in with regards to past bad acts was that a number of years earlier, Jordan Chandler walked away with millions of dollars.
39:12The jury looks at that and they think, come on, how's this going to happen twice?
39:16It's a huge blow to Jackson, uh, and it's great news for prosecutors.
39:20They essentially get a second chance to make a first impression.
39:23And, uh, the whole case has changed. It's a new dynamic.
39:26What happened ten years ago is irrelevant.
39:35You have to prove the defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt based on what they did now.
39:44Not what they did before.
39:45Oh, you can besmirch the defendant, you can make the defendant look bad.
39:51That's not evidence.
39:53That's character assassination.
39:59When I left Neverland and walked out of that job, me and a lot of the employees, we sued Mr. Jackson for the treatment that we got.
40:07The things that we saw, Michael with kids and stuff.
40:10There were a lot of different counts and there was molestation in there.
40:15But the judge ruled that we could not bring up molestation.
40:19We lost our lawsuit.
40:23So when I got called for his trial, I didn't want nothing to do with Michael.
40:28I didn't want to, I didn't even want to look at him.
40:32Former Jackson maid Adrian McManus is now on the stand.
40:35She is talking about the parade of young boys who came through Neverland.
40:41When I walked in there, he looked at me like,
40:44Oh, Adrian, where have you been?
40:47I've missed you.
40:49That angered me because I could see the games through him.
40:52You know, I saw what he did to me.
40:55I saw that he only cared about his self.
40:58I said what I had to say about what I saw with Mr. Jackson and Jordan Chandler and what I had seen.
41:06And Michael just turned his face.
41:09He would not look at me again.
41:11And I thought, good, I am free from you now.
41:14You don't control me.
41:15I truly felt that Michael Jackson was a child molester.
41:26I felt that then and I haven't changed my mind now.
41:29I still feel that way.
41:31But I had to give Michael Jackson the benefit of the doubt.
41:35You know, he really didn't do this or whatever.
41:37That's what the jury was supposed to do.
41:40What should have been a damaging account instead fizzled after Tom Mesereau dismantled her on cross-examination, getting her to admit she tried to sue Jackson and lost and lied in an earlier deposition.
41:53They destroyed us.
41:57So, and that's, like I said, I get angry that, you know, a lot of people, especially the jurors, right away they were like, um, oh, yeah, these people, um, they just want money.
42:12They just want money.
42:14It was a tough situation dealing with that.
42:17The problem that we had was that a number of the people who worked for him brought a lawsuit against him.
42:27And lost.
42:29And ended up with a judgment against them for expenses.
42:34Um, a judgment that they never paid.
42:37And it seriously affected their credibility and their ability to be able to talk about what had happened.
42:44And it really hurt us.
42:45There was another witness that really, to this day, sticks with me, was Jordan Chandler's mom.
42:58The latest twist in his trial, a claim that Michael Jackson begged a young boy's mother to allow the youngster to sleep with him.
43:07That allegation was made by June Chandler, who said she was showered with jewelry by the singer as he swept her family off on trips to Monaco, Florida and Las Vegas.
43:19I remember her taking a stand just 10 years after Jordan's situation.
43:25And she said she was a horrible mother and her exact words was, I sold my son to Michael Jackson.
43:36She said that she hadn't heard from her son and she understood why.
43:40I just thought, oh my gosh, it moved me. I can't understand how it would not have moved any jury.
43:50I thought it was very damaging testimony, particularly the moment where she says that Michael Jackson crying and shaking and trembling begged her to allow her son to sleep with him.
44:06And basically said, we're family. Well, they're not family. Why should a mother be asked to trust a middle-aged man to be entitled to sleep with her son?
44:20I thought, oh my gosh, what kind of grown man would cry because this mother decides she doesn't want to bring her little boy to have a sleepover with you.
44:31And I thought, he's going to lose this thing.
44:35What possessed a mother to allow her son to share a stranger's bed was never made clear.
44:41But asked by the prosecution as she concluded her testimony whether she regretted placing her trust in Michael Jackson,
44:49June Chandler replied, very much so.
44:54The message was kind of clear to me.
44:56To me, the parents didn't protect their sons because they were groomed as much as the kids were into thinking that everything was going to be okay.
45:08They were as awestruck with Michael Jackson as the kids themselves.
45:13This was what Michael Jackson would do.
45:18He was able to win over the loyalty of the mothers of these children by giving them lavish gifts and treating them to a lavish lifestyle.
45:27We had Jordan Chandler's mother in there.
45:32We had the proof that there was a settlement.
45:34We had the proof that he had to spend an endless amount of time in bed with him.
45:39I've won cases with no more evidence than that.
45:41There's witness after witness that say Jackson has a pattern and practice of molesting children.
45:51And I'll tell you, the jury is going to look to that and they're going to have a difficult time saying that Jackson is not a pedophile in this case.
45:57I was a very brave man.
45:58I was a very brave woman in the house.
45:59I was 18 years old.
46:00I was an foreigner.
46:01I was very scared.
46:02I was a great man around the house and I couldn't get sick.
46:03I would ask, are you sure you could get sick and sick for my dog, but I could get sick.
46:04But did you go for a little bit?
46:05What was the one man around the house?
46:06I'd give him an apology.
46:07I've had the relationship to the people who are a nethery man from here in the house.
46:09You've heard thenic simpson.
46:11I would have a big issue.
46:13If you could get sick and sick and sick, I'd pick him if he wants to get sick, I'm wrong.
46:15I had the same guy who's all this.
46:17And I would have to go for a long time.
46:18I'd give a long time.
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