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00:00Hello, one and all!
00:02Welcome to another episode of Adventuring Party.
00:03I'm your humble GM, Brennan Lee Mulligan.
00:05With me, as always, are our Dusty Do-Gooders.
00:06Say hi, Dusty Do-Gooders.
00:08Is that a bunch of teeth?
00:12Sorry.
00:13That's the most amount of teeth you've coughed so many times.
00:15What would you do if you were like just out and about
00:18on the town and someone did a cough like that
00:20and all their teeth got out?
00:22I would laugh.
00:23That's L.A., baby.
00:24What the?
00:25Only in L.A.
00:26That's another day on the two.
00:27It's a person walking on the highway that you're seeing.
00:31No, no, the bus.
00:32The two bus.
00:33The two bus.
00:34I was also thinking of the two.
00:36You're walking on the shoulder of the two.
00:38Someone passing you the other direction.
00:40Only on the two.
00:42That crazy person, another day on the two
00:44and I keep walking on the freeway, barefoot.
00:46Just like.
00:48The two would be the worst.
00:49The two's also like a horrifically dangerous.
00:51It was made for horses.
00:52Highway.
00:53It was made for horses and it was not updated.
00:55That was for horses.
00:57You're thinking of the 110.
00:57No, the 110 was made for buggies.
00:59Little like.
01:00The two is not made.
01:01There's no way the two is made for.
01:02The 110's the nation's first at the end of the day.
01:04What's the one that you get to a stop sign
01:06and it's like two apart?
01:06That's the 110 north.
01:07That's the 110 beyond downtown LA.
01:09I watched one TikTok and I probably got it wrong.
01:13What's up?
01:13This is L.A. in a minute.
01:14You're not going to pay attention to this Beardsley
01:16so go ahead and scroll on.
01:18I watched the whole thing.
01:20The two and the 110 are very different.
01:23Oh, you're L.A. in a minute?
01:25You're L.A. in a minute.
01:28Wait, they show his face on that.
01:30Yeah, I have a different face for the show.
01:34Yeah, I figured it out.
01:36It's like those vloggers,
01:37or you know those videos where it's like
01:39they do like an animation,
01:41do you know what I'm talking about?
01:42Yes, that's how I do it.
01:44You're explaining how I do it, continue.
01:47Continue.
01:48So the 110 was made for horses,
01:50and I am barefoot bloodstained.
01:51It was made for Jalanta's time?
01:53It was made for buggies.
01:54Another day on the two, and I'm on the 110.
01:55Watching multiple people cough all their cheeks out.
01:57Can I just briefly correct the history of what's
01:59being bastardized in my hometown?
02:01It was built for Model Ts, and they put swerves in it
02:04because the cars were so slow,
02:06it made the drive more interesting.
02:08Whoa.
02:09What?
02:10Don't say yes, you said horses.
02:11It was for horses, though.
02:12Can I ask a question?
02:13Brendan, when you were pitching this to Dropout,
02:16is this what you were hoping for?
02:18To be perfectly honest,
02:19an episode where people fart so fast
02:22that they get super speed,
02:23and we weep about the nature of death and grief,
02:26is the thesis writ large.
02:29Hey Siri, am I barefoot bloodstained
02:32walking down the 110 going just another day on the two?
02:35Yeah.
02:37It was made for horses.
02:38It's just not horses.
02:39It was made for horses.
02:39I love that.
02:40I more meant this show that we're doing right now,
02:42talking about LA in a minute.
02:44Oh, LA in a minute.
02:45Was this what you were hoping for this show?
02:46Is this my very popular TikTok account?
02:47Honestly, honestly,
02:48I love to take my foot off the gas
02:49in an adventuring party.
02:51You do, you do.
02:52Yeah, no, it's good.
02:53I like it.
02:54I thought this was a beautiful episode.
02:55Crazy episode.
02:56Yes, nice.
02:57We got Huggy out of the red.
03:00No one else even got close.
03:02Wow, that's amazing.
03:03Which is kind of great.
03:04That's good.
03:05From a 10 to a 6.
03:06That's beautiful, it's crazy.
03:07Wait, where are you at, Kimia?
03:08I'm at a 2, I'm okay.
03:092, okay.
03:10Just hanging on.
03:11We're looking good.
03:12We're looking good.
03:13I thought it was, I feel like, I was saying this off camera, and I just want to say it,
03:19but sometimes, when you're playing with so many people, it's hard to maintain the integrity
03:26of the story, and sometimes find myself in a way of like, yeah, let's just keep going,
03:33you know, in a direction more so, very generally.
03:36Yeah.
03:37And I thought it was really cool how you were able to kind of plant your feet in your character's
03:45arc in a way that like, was the direction.
03:51Yeah.
03:52And like, brought this into like, such a beautiful territory that was really like, felt very
04:00profound and real, and really, really appreciated it.
04:04Yeah.
04:05Absolutely.
04:06And as like, a character whose whole thing was not advocating for themselves, and then
04:10being like, this is the moment I do that, and it alters the whole, we're not like, running
04:15out the door to try to beat the rain really fast.
04:17Yeah.
04:18Like, we're like, taking a moment here.
04:19Cause I also was like, our whole thing is we go to these places and we help them process,
04:24and once we, there's some level of healing, then we leave.
04:27And I was like, we're literally about to be like, y'all suck.
04:30We gotta go save those books.
04:32Yeah.
04:33And I was like, okay, I guess that's one story, but it was really cool to,
04:36it's so satisfying to not have to do that.
04:38Yeah.
04:39I mean like, you guys, I think too, gave me such, excellent, cause I, I also just like,
04:44going to this was like, oh, I don't really know how, cause it is like something needs
04:48to happen to change this character's mind, and to like, be able to say yes to these fun
04:55things.
04:56And I really didn't know what that was gonna be exactly.
04:58And it was really fun just sort of like jumping out of the plane and going like,
05:02Yeah.
05:03What was it?
05:04Huh?
05:05What specifically was it?
05:06Was that moment?
05:07I legitimately do think it was Connor.
05:09That was a great scene.
05:10That was so funny.
05:11Having that roll up top and getting to like talk about that and then being like, oh,
05:15it's like, okay, like I'm here to listen and like having that moment and then like that
05:19coming back later.
05:20Cause then it built enough trust with Connor that Connor then saying something a little
05:23bit later was enough of an opening to like, I think at least start opening that, those
05:29floodgates a little bit.
05:31Totally.
05:32Whoa.
05:33So sick.
05:34It was really wonderful.
05:35I loved, I love any touching heartfelt connection riddled with absolutely insane detail.
05:44Love a like, you know, it's honestly, you know what it made me think of this is like,
05:49it made me think of Jawbone in Fantasy High of the thing.
05:52It's like that fucking archetypal, but you just being like, my dad was a derp.
05:56What'd you say?
05:57Your dad said I have, I assume what he meant was I have to do me and went into a canyon.
06:03I gotta do it.
06:06Rain.
06:07There's enough similarities in sort of a very far away bird's eye view of it.
06:13Yeah.
06:14It was very, it was really, really fun.
06:17I went to a Sparks game yesterday watching basketball and I kept saying, come on now.
06:23Come on now.
06:24And it's from you.
06:25And I don't know when I picked that up, but I was earnestly saying that at plays
06:29and Frankie was like, will you please stop doing that?
06:32Dang.
06:33I don't know where this came from and I don't know what character this is, but why are you doing that?
06:38Come on now.
06:39But we're just in the crowd and I'm like, ah, come on now.
06:41There's definitely some Pappy Connor middle ground, which Pappy is a character I played last time.
06:48That was like a old cowboy.
06:51And then just like a lot of weird Alabama-isms that have just seeped in.
06:56Because the University of Alabama, Roll Tide is what they say for, you know, the football team there.
07:03Like a lot of that ends up being like, like, come on now.
07:08Like there's a lot of that kind of while watching.
07:10Like you mean like the way it morphs?
07:12Yeah.
07:13Spelled almost, it's never written out anywhere.
07:16K-E-E-E-M-O-N-E.
07:18Come on.
07:19Come on.
07:20Come on now.
07:21Come on now.
07:22Come on now.
07:23Come on.
07:24Come on, Pappy.
07:25Talking about stims, Ali, Quinn saying I ate my husband no seasoning has been in my brain forever.
07:35I ate my husband no seasoning.
07:36Not even salt.
07:37No seasoning.
07:38I want you all to know it wasn't like a culinary impulse that led her to that.
07:41It was definitely something else.
07:43Panic.
07:44Panic.
07:45Not a dash of cumin.
07:47Be funny, that's the justification.
07:49You were just really craving like Lawry's seasoned salt.
07:53It was about the dip, I like made a gorgeous salt.
07:55Sort of like why I go to Del Taco's, it's really not for the food, it's for Del Scorcho sauce.
08:00It's a vehicle for Scorcho, I agree.
08:02Human no cumin?
08:03Huh?
08:04Human no cumin?
08:05Yeah, human no cumin.
08:06Okay.
08:07Come on now.
08:08Come on now.
08:09Come on now.
08:10Human no cumin.
08:12If I think about your character game, like especially the way you pitched it too hard at any given point in time,
08:18it will always make me laugh.
08:20That was a no.
08:21She just ate it a little too fast, huh?
08:23That was a no.
08:24And what was a no?
08:25That was a no.
08:26What was a no?
08:27Oh, that was a no!
08:28And that was a no.
08:29Pitching it too hard.
08:30I was just being silly.
08:31Right, me too.
08:32I think when you were doing this beautiful funeral, I was like, whoa, would Quinn ever need closure around her husband?
08:38And I went, not this, no.
08:41Not where we're at right now.
08:43In like a decade maybe.
08:44Yeah.
08:45We'll circle back.
08:46But there is growth in Quinn, like the fact that she-
08:50Yeah, yeah.
08:51She popped ash in the cage!
08:52She let somebody in the cage!
08:53Let somebody in the cage?
08:54The key!
08:55You had the key the whole time!
08:56I can get out of the cage at any time.
08:57It's just me putting me in the cage.
08:58It's me putting me in the cage.
08:59Yeah.
09:00That's my least favorite tarot card.
09:01You guys ever get that one?
09:02The cage?
09:03The head in the cage?
09:04The head in the cage.
09:05No, it's this lady-
09:06The Quinn card?
09:07It's like lady that's like tied up and if you read the lore of the card, it's that the binds are loose so she can leave at any moment.
09:14Oh, dang.
09:15She just kind of is choosing to stay tied up and it's like-
09:16Oh, what's the card? Someone look up the card!
09:18Somebody look up what that card is.
09:20I must know.
09:21Siri?
09:22I'm barefoot on the one's end.
09:23I'm looking at it.
09:24What is it?
09:25He's looking at it.
09:26Come on.
09:27The Eight of Swords.
09:28Yeah.
09:29It's the Eight of Swords.
09:30Read it.
09:31I was still figuring it out.
09:32You're kind of like you have the power to go, but-
09:34On the Eight of Swords is a woman who is tied up and blindfolded.
09:37There are eight swords placed strategically around her in a way that restricts her movement as though she is in some kind of trap or jail.
09:42However, it seems as though whoever built the trap was a little lazy or hasty, leaving some open space where she could escape.
09:47But because of the blindfold preventing the woman from seeing she has no way of finding her way out of this trap,
09:51the barren land around her might signify a lack of creativity of some sort, while the gray sky in the background can signify despair.
09:56Since there she feels that there is no hope of her breaking free from the kind of situation that she's bound to,
10:00if only she could take the blindfold off, she would say that she could simply just walk out of this situation.
10:04She can take it off.
10:05But she can take it off.
10:06Okay, so Everywhere by Michelle Branch can play during that entire scene.
10:10Yeah.
10:11So that's the Eight of Swords.
10:12That's the A-T-E of Swords.
10:13The A-T-E of Swords.
10:14Oh, no!
10:16No!
10:17No!
10:18We got some breaking news coming across the desk.
10:20Coming across the desk.
10:21That's Michelle Branch tearing across the Gladlands with the Gatling gun.
10:24You're thinking of Vanessa Carlton.
10:27You are.
10:28That's Vanessa Carlton.
10:29I've been doing the wrong song.
10:30Come on now!
10:31Wow!
10:32The whole time we were like singing.
10:34You mentioned that I was like, I think Zach might be thinking about the wrong singer-songwriter.
10:38This is turning inside out so I can see.
10:40We don't know that Michelle doesn't also play piano though.
10:43That's true.
10:44Michelle plays piano for sure.
10:45But is she zipping down the two?
10:47The point is the Vanessa Carlton piano is a wheeled vehicle.
10:50Yes.
10:51Yeah.
10:52That's the point.
10:53That's the point.
10:54Fuck.
10:55It's good to know what the point is.
10:56That's also your head in a cage.
10:57Yeah.
10:58This was the episode where we actually had, we had confronted Breaker this episode.
11:06Remember that?
11:07Right.
11:08That's crazy.
11:09That was so long ago.
11:10He has a different lifetime.
11:12Yeah.
11:13We had a really lovely successful, it was a confrontation.
11:17Connor got there in time to save Tess.
11:20We got, uh, uh, save Tess.
11:23We got a Kokomo warmth check, oh my god, that healed our poor sweet bug boy.
11:29Shit was getting tense, dude.
11:30It was getting tense, tense.
11:31We had to do something nice.
11:32Say it, man.
11:33We had to do something nice for our friend here.
11:35And we heard your Beach Boys record.
11:37Oh!
11:38And you ran so happy with it.
11:40Yeah, it was so cute.
11:41It was important.
11:42Real cute.
11:43It was important.
11:44Can I ask a question about the Beach Boys record?
11:46Yeah.
11:47Cause I know earlier you'd mentioned that it was, uh, like, it was incomplete, that it
11:51was skipping.
11:52Is that still the case?
11:55Is it still an incomplete record?
11:56I have anti-skip.
11:57Quinn has anti-skip technology.
12:00It's probably the only time he's heard.
12:02The whole song?
12:03Yeah.
12:04Cause I imagine in, like, my little story that I've never communicated or whatever,
12:07like, I do imagine he's probably heard clips, but it's like, what you're finding is
12:10probably a CD player with, you know, remember when your CD player, the last frame would blink
12:15for the battery?
12:16It'd be, like, four chunks and, like, that's like, it's-
12:19Oh, yeah.
12:20I feel like it was a lot of that, where it's like, you finally have the disc and you finally
12:22find something that could play it, or you have something that could play it and then
12:25you finally find the disc and you get, like, a blip.
12:27And then it's gone.
12:28Yeah.
12:29And maybe that's happened to, you know, who knows how long he's wandering the desert
12:32before, like, Pappy finds him and he joins the caravan, you know?
12:35Yeah.
12:36Pappy.
12:37Pappy.
12:38Sorry.
12:39There you are.
12:40Sorry.
12:41I'm dying.
12:42Well, I know nobody asked, but I do feel like the fart thing, probably Kokomo has a couple
12:53different stomachs.
12:54Yeah.
12:55There's probably just a fart chamber.
12:56Yeah.
12:57And nobody asked.
12:58Okay.
12:59That's how you go Super Saiyan.
13:00Are you sad no one asked?
13:02Nobody asked.
13:03Was Kokomo hoping somebody was gonna be like, how are you farting on command?
13:06Yeah, maybe Kokomo wanted to be asked about his toots.
13:08At the top of next episode.
13:09Yeah.
13:10There's a lot of serious stuff going on this episode.
13:12Yeah, we'll check in.
13:13Yeah.
13:14And nobody asked Kokomo about his toots.
13:16Toots.
13:17You could have asked.
13:18Oh woof.
13:19That's a good note.
13:20Woof.
13:21Oh woof.
13:22Oh woof.
13:23Oh woof.
13:24Oh woof.
13:25Like aloof?
13:26You were so good.
13:27You were so good.
13:28What an incredible.
13:29You were so good.
13:30Oh woof.
13:31I don't wanna get off this point.
13:32No, no, no.
13:34You can see me talk more about how woof on my next LA in a minute TikTok video.
13:39But you were so good.
13:40You were making me sob and cry.
13:42Oh woof.
13:43Yeah.
13:44Oh woof.
13:45I was how woofing.
13:46I was how woofing.
13:48That was great.
13:49That was really good.
13:50Really sweet.
13:51Whoa, yes.
13:52Also, the lore drop of the skull was Moony's skull.
13:57Moony's skull.
13:58What the heck?
13:59You said that at some point, huh?
14:00No, I knew that actually already.
14:02So when you knocked it down, I went, that's crazy.
14:04Somebody had mentioned it.
14:05I don't think it got mentioned until today.
14:08We knew that it was gone, but we knew that she had a skull.
14:11And there was like the crook of her arm where she was.
14:14That was, yeah, where she was.
14:15So she must have hidden it and she needed to like compulsively touch it.
14:18Well, it was just this thing that obviously whenever she's alone,
14:21she put the skull in the crook of her arm.
14:23Oh.
14:24Woof.
14:25And the idea of like.
14:27Fucked up.
14:28She woof.
14:29How woof, dude.
14:30How woof, dude.
14:31Oh, how woof.
14:32Yeah, man.
14:33It's really sad.
14:34But in a way it felt very, very.
14:36She woof.
14:37She woof.
14:38I don't know.
14:39We were talking about this a little bit before in the break, but it just, there's a, I feel
14:44like the thing that is true about Hoogie is a kind of, the mask on, there's an idea around
14:52flawlessness when the stakes are very high that feels like a part of the history heap.
14:57And even though the history heap's flawlessness, the history heap is the most, I think it's
15:00interesting that the history heap is the most charmless and Hoogie is the most charming.
15:05But the thing that connects them is the idea of flawlessness, of like the thing you're supposed
15:10to do, you're supposed to do with no rough edges.
15:13It's supposed to be done perfectly.
15:15And it's really funny because I remember being at a funeral for a loved one where, and everyone
15:24grieves in their own way, but someone was like, there was an exhortation from someone
15:28involved in the funeral to be like, don't miss this person because nothing bad happened.
15:36Right?
15:37It was sort of insistence on like, and I think sometimes there's a, I think people, in this
15:43case, it was a reference to a supernatural element of like, which I also understand.
15:49Like there's a beautiful poem that when my professor, my foster professor passed away,
15:52it said like, I am the diamond's gift of snow.
15:55Like, do not stand at my grave and cry.
15:57I am not there.
15:58I did not die.
15:59Ugh.
16:00And there's a, when you can be in that half of your mind, that's beautiful.
16:08But occasionally you have to walk over to the other half of your mind where you go there
16:12and you go there, gone.
16:13And it is bad.
16:15And please don't tell me not to think that this is bad.
16:18Yeah, totally.
16:19Like, it is a really funny thing where it's like, you go, you have these two modalities
16:24that are present in your brain and I think you need them both.
16:26And I think that was what I was trying to say as Aunt Freaky was like, oh, we don't really
16:30do well with contradictions.
16:32We don't really do well with paradoxes.
16:34We're trying to find the truth.
16:36And actually the only way this is gonna work is when I walk over to the half of my mind
16:40that's like, they're everywhere.
16:42They're not gone.
16:43And then I walk over to the other half of my mind where it is, ah, they're gone.
16:47This fucking sucks.
16:49I think that opens up too.
16:51It's a very human thing where it's like grief, in my opinion, it's very lonely.
16:55But as soon as you're with somebody else, all of those doors are open.
16:59And it's like, you can find the place where you get to go, it sucks.
17:04Because then the person who's outside of it doesn't go, oh, I'm sorry.
17:06Or, thanks for saying that.
17:08Or like, oh, I can't imagine.
17:09It's just like you actually get to be real and vulnerable and talk about the entire thing.
17:15And that's, I think, what got me was like, oh, these people are finally not alone in their grief.
17:21What a gift when you said, Vic, that Freaky had not been at the funeral.
17:25That was an incredible gift in that moment.
17:27That was like, I was like, oh, shit, that makes her make so much more sense.
17:34And, yeah, I thought that was beautiful.
17:37Oh, thanks.
17:38Yeah.
17:39I mean, it just, it is so interesting.
17:42Just in terms of, oh, I had something I was going to say.
17:45And now I really can't remember.
17:46I'm so sorry.
17:47No, it's okay.
17:48So you're a little woof there.
17:50Yeah, I woofed it, kinda.
17:53Yeah, I don't know, maybe it'll come back.
17:57And was that helpful for you to remember?
17:59That was great.
18:00Yeah, that was great.
18:01That was great.
18:02That was so sorry.
18:03That I loved.
18:04That was so sorry.
18:05It was gone before that.
18:06Jacob was talking about the idea of being with someone in that moment where things suck.
18:11Oh, yeah, where it's this idea of also, too, like when you've got this greater grief and
18:15you're sort of like around other people that are experiencing grief as a concept and you
18:19can sort of, for me at least, like look at sort of like the, oh, yeah, like this is hard,
18:24but we can also talk about kind of the beautiful sides of it.
18:26But then when you're dealing with somebody that's dealing with the exact same grief as
18:30you, and I feel like that is where you can access that part where it's like you can see
18:35the sides of it that maybe are like the messier, more unfinished edges of it and it's easier
18:40to talk about the specifics.
18:43Whereas like the concept, and I think that that's very true for Hoogie where like dealing
18:47with grief as a concept, it's like easier to access like the beauty and how it's a part
18:53of life and I do think that this is, because I think something big I was thinking about
18:59with this character is like it was a long time ago.
19:02Yeah.
19:03And so it's not something that's affecting their day to day, but it is, so it was like I think
19:08a very special thing for this person to be able to access that with somebody that also
19:12like understood intimately what that was like.
19:15Yeah, it's very, the, being able to share with someone in that moment, my, I have a
19:23friend Miranda, we go, who lost the same professor who was a very, very influential figure.
19:31We go and get pastries and we will, we text you.
19:34Sometimes we'll just get a text that just has a little croissant as a thing, even just
19:39to be like thinking about Professor Davis today.
19:42You know, like it's, it's just a very lovely thing.
19:46And it's very like, it is that, that the contradictory part of that is so challenged,
19:53and I've been thinking.
19:55But a hard coffee to show up to.
19:57Yeah.
19:58You know?
19:59Totally.
20:00Yeah.
20:01And just being like the, the, but you, you do, like you need other people that get it.
20:05Yeah.
20:06You need other people around that get it and you need other people that like share a memory
20:09of that person because you like, it was just that, that funeral was such a, it was such a beautiful
20:16idea from Quinn, but I was so glad that the funeral also wasn't going well because actually
20:23what these people needed was to not nail it.
20:26You know what I mean?
20:27Like it's, I do think there was something I almost, I forget what it was.
20:31It was, we moved past the opportunity for it to come up in the scene, but there was a part
20:35that I think is Hoogie's, even as different as the dice are, that is Hoogie's Achilles'
20:41heel and also Aunt Freaky's and maybe also the History Heaps written more largely, which
20:46is like you, oh God, Vic, when you said you're not going to know your way through these feelings.
20:52Whee!
20:53Yeah, that's the thesis right there.
20:55That's, that's the thesis right there, right?
20:57Because the, the thing is, symbols can quickly lose their meaning and the History Heap is
21:04a place all about symbols and the, you know, to the point where like, I'm sorry stops meaning
21:09I'm sorry.
21:10You say it when you like open a door and someone's in the room that you weren't expecting,
21:14you're like, oh, I'm sorry.
21:15Like you have this thing where it's just like, it becomes the sound you make and it has
21:20stopped signifying what the deeper meaning is, which is I'm like, I have sorrow, right?
21:25Like, I'm like, I regret that or like, I feel those feelings you feel.
21:29And it was so crazy to watch this thing where it's like, it's like, yeah, well, we had a
21:35funeral, death is a part of life, it's beautiful and we say goodbye and of course I miss my child
21:41but, and it's like, yeah, but that is totally meaningless if it is disconnected from an actual
21:48experience of what that means, right?
21:50You can't just say the words.
21:52Um, there's just two, both very different people but also like very poised people and
21:58to like, you see the messiness of that feels like what you're talking, like it's just the
22:03reality of it.
22:04Yeah, like how do we short circuit control in that moment and let go?
22:08Yeah, there's a toxicity to poise.
22:10It's the lines in the mask, yeah.
22:12Cause I think the thing that I realized in that, in that especially is that like, I mean,
22:18Hoogie and Aunt Freaky are very, very similar.
22:21Hoogie's charm is just so much higher.
22:24The way that people interact with them is so much different than Aunt Freaky, I think.
22:29Yeah.
22:30But I do think that they have the same problem at the, at the heart of it.
22:34I was thinking about this cause this place is so high in, um, awareness.
22:39Yeah.
22:40And that's like such a word used in meditation.
22:42So I'm like, awareness is really important, but I think that the history heap, it's not
22:49just awareness, it's awareness and then an instant judgment.
22:53Yeah.
22:54This is good.
22:55This is bad.
22:56And then that's the whole thing that you're trying to break in meditation around awareness
22:59is like, just let awareness be, just let it rest there.
23:02And you don't have to have a take or like a guttural reaction to it.
23:06Yeah.
23:07But it's like the most judgmental place imaginable.
23:10Like being there, every single person was like, so stressed, so over a barrel.
23:14Yeah.
23:15And you're like, oh, you just feel constantly judged by everyone around you and your own
23:20self.
23:21Yes.
23:22So it's like, whoa.
23:23Well, I also think too, the, the whole Freaky thing, which in terms of her getting that
23:28little, so we've had like a boost to awareness for Poppy, not Herbie.
23:32We've had a boost to warmth for, uh, uh, for Hoogie here.
23:37And I think that like for Freaky having this little thing of like charm, I think when we
23:42were making this game system, I continually talk to people who for some reason had like
23:48an attitude around charm where they were like, well, that's the fake.
23:52Like I like all these more than I like charm.
23:54Charm is like, in other words, there's a thing where it's like, well, that's just surface level
23:58or something.
23:59And it's really funny for me as I, I felt almost felt like in some conversations I was
24:03having before the season got started, not with anyone here, but with other people that
24:06I was talking to you about or other, you know, what's that?
24:09No, I'm kidding.
24:10Name names.
24:11Name names.
24:12You know, of just being like charm is not fake.
24:15It's putting extra effort into making people feel good, because you know that that little
24:23bit extra, it's like making them, getting someone a gift or like making a thing for them.
24:27Oh it's like a charming house.
24:29Yeah.
24:30There's like handmade things, there's little like accents and stuff like that.
24:33Yeah, it's like a little effort, probably.
24:34A little bit of effort.
24:35And I think there are relationship, especially like coming from New York, there are a lot of
24:39people who lionize a relationship,
24:41where they're like, when you're close to people,
24:43you can treat them like shit.
24:45You know, because the love lets you bust balls,
24:48you do this other thing.
24:49I remember being on an indie improv team
24:52where we loved each other so much
24:54that we went out and did a show,
24:55and we just started doing stuff like,
24:58we started doing tag outs hitting each other in the face
25:00because it was like, that's how close you are to people.
25:03And we got off stage and went, you know,
25:05I sometimes am going in and like sitting in with other teams
25:09where I'm on my best behavior,
25:11and I'm treating those people better
25:14than I'm treating people who legitimately
25:16I consider family to me,
25:18because the walls have come down so hard,
25:21and you go, maybe I can put a little more sauce
25:23on these tightest circle people,
25:26and go a little farther to be like,
25:28oh, I'm not making you feel like how much I know I love you.
25:31But there's that thing that says like,
25:32the people that you're closest to,
25:34and the people that you make fun of
25:35are the people that like you embrace more,
25:38and that the ability to kind of like jokingly be rude
25:42to people is like a way that you can connect deeper,
25:44and like also secretly maybe talk about some issues
25:47that are going on, and like let out pressure valves
25:49and stuff like that.
25:50And there's like, there's like a little truth to that.
25:52I do think that playfully ribbing someone is a way,
25:56is something that when you are close to someone,
25:58you can go, hey, here's actually feedback
26:00because we're living our lives together, right?
26:02And I'm doing it in a joyful way,
26:04because I want you to know that our relationship's
26:05not being threatened by this like critique
26:08or this moment of feedback I'm giving you.
26:10But there is definitely a really toxic place
26:13that it can get to where it's like, you know what I mean?
26:15It's like, we are constant fonts of negativity
26:19and gracelessness, or like, I don't know,
26:22thinking about being in a long-term relationship
26:24and being like, go get dressed up for date night.
26:27You know what I mean?
26:27It's like, something that you go like,
26:29put that little extra bit of effort in,
26:31because yeah, the walls have come down
26:33and there's a lot of vulnerability and safety,
26:36but like, effort's good too, that's nice.
26:39You know, like, it's a good thing.
26:41I don't know, it felt, there was so many
26:44beautiful things to draw from.
26:45I love, God, that scene where Hoogie finally just says,
26:49this sucks and I miss you and I wish you,
26:51why did you leave me?
26:52Beautiful.
26:53It's so beautiful.
26:54Oh my God, just watching tears stream down your face.
26:58I've gotten, I think that's the most I've cried on camera,
27:02which is very-
27:03I think so.
27:03I think so, because it's very funny.
27:04You had one fucking just-
27:06One just dropped it.
27:06Bam!
27:07Boom.
27:084K zoom in, just put it on the face.
27:104K zoom in.
27:11It's very, it's-
27:12For the editors, 4K zoom in.
27:144K zoom in.
27:15It's very challenging because I don't get to spend
27:17a lot of time with any of my characters.
27:19I was caught completely off guard by how tapped into
27:23Aunt Freaky I got.
27:24Hmm.
27:25Very formal.
27:26Interesting.
27:27A very formal academic person trying to tap into-
27:30Who can't stop bringing up bird facts at the funeral?
27:36You said the quiet part out loud.
27:40It was beautiful to share that scene with you and with
27:42everybody here at the table.
27:43It's a real gift.
27:44I have a corvid brain.
27:45I love it.
27:46It's really, I love, I love stories and I love make-believe
27:48and I love that it gets us to places that are really-
27:50It's so special to be surrounded by responsible artists
27:53who are like, let it fucking go.
27:55Right at all.
27:56Patience is one of the hardest things, I think,
27:57to achieve in improv.
27:58Yeah.
27:59Like, through patience.
28:00Well, our defense mechanism is humor.
28:01Yeah.
28:02So it was all of us just sitting here being like,
28:03and I'm not gonna do the thing.
28:05And I'm not gonna relieve the pressure.
28:08There was a famous, there was, I think a set,
28:11there was a set that many, many years ago,
28:14it's somewhere, UCB, of like, a set where everyone was silent
28:21except for one person and I remember someone being like,
28:23that person who was doing all the talking,
28:25and I remember being like, it's the other seven.
28:27Everyone else made that decision.
28:28You know what I'm saying?
28:29Like, you're talking about restraint and patience
28:30and stuff like that.
28:31Totally beautiful.
28:33And then we're listening to Michelle Branch Everywhere.
28:37Yeah.
28:38Which you were hearing of something totally different.
28:39Yeah, did you guys hear?
28:40You were hearing a different song.
28:41Yeah.
28:42Different song.
28:43And then we get this stuff, we get Uncle Puss's records
28:44and we go look for Parcel at the very end of the episode.
28:46Yes.
28:47It could be rational.
28:48Flashy facade.
28:49Oh my God.
28:50Did you know?
28:51Did you have an inkling?
28:52I had an inkling when you left and you were clutching something
28:55and I said, ooh, I've been there.
28:57But yeah, Auntie, that was the birth of Auntie as well.
29:00Wow.
29:01I was that person.
29:02Herbie was Parcel at that moment.
29:05At that moment.
29:06That was the origin story of Herbie turning into Auntie.
29:09I knew it.
29:10Somebody had to do drugs.
29:11Somebody else had to do drugs.
29:12Somebody else had to do drugs.
29:13And it was Parcel.
29:14And it makes sense why Parcel would then join the caravan.
29:19The caravan.
29:20Oh yeah, you start as an ally.
29:21Do you know what I mean?
29:23Before you know it.
29:24Herbie starts as a staunch ally.
29:26And then you're like, I'm just here to protect all my friends
29:29and I'm just at all these marches.
29:31Yes.
29:32And I just think they deserve equal rights.
29:34And then the they suddenly turns into we.
29:37Suddenly becomes we.
29:38And then it's I.
29:40And then it's I.
29:41Me, me, me, me, me.
29:42And then you're gay.
29:43That's it.
29:44That's all that.
29:45Me, me, me, me.
29:46Well, it's been great because I've been thinking about that for a while.
29:49I was thinking about Parcel's connection for a minute.
29:52And when I realized that Parcel was not really a foil as much as someone that had a deeper connection and respect for what Poppy was doing.
29:59And I felt like that moment of Parcel not defending.
30:03I was like that.
30:04In a lot of ways this season it's been like there have been negativities and betrayals.
30:08Aunt Freaky fucking screamed at Herbie.
30:11Yeah.
30:12Breaker physically assaulting you.
30:14Right.
30:15There have been scary.
30:16Justin Sheffield was off in Rock Club trying to sabotage the whole chili cook up.
30:19Yeah.
30:20People have been doing very negative things.
30:22And it's just this is a season where we turn around a little bit.
30:25And that moment where Parcel's betrayal.
30:26I was like Parcel's betrayal.
30:28If I get an opportunity Parcel's betrayal will be revealed to be a deeper thing.
30:32Yeah.
30:33That they're dealing with a lot.
30:34And I think like you said.
30:35I think maybe we don't get to there if not for that moment where Herbie is like defends.
30:40Like Kokomo's defending you and you defend them.
30:42Yeah.
30:43Because I think at that point you already knew.
30:45I knew it.
30:46Yeah.
30:47I said it last time I was like yes.
30:48Like hurt people hurt people.
30:49You know what I mean?
30:50Yeah.
30:51That's very this season.
30:52I understood what Parcel's whole thing was.
30:55It's about survival.
30:56It's about leaning into flowing with the current and not swimming upstream.
31:02You know Poppy Persona is like a salmon swims upstream.
31:06But when she goes back home she is out.
31:09We watch her about face.
31:11Literally.
31:12Down the river.
31:13So she's.
31:14You know Poppy is committing the same crime as Parcel at that moment.
31:19Yeah.
31:20She gets it.
31:21Right.
31:22Herbie fully understands it because Herbie is also doing that too.
31:25Fully loaded.
31:26Not standing up for Poppy.
31:28I fucking.
31:29I love that she was sick though.
31:30No.
31:31No.
31:32What'd you say?
31:33Hey don't worry about it.
31:34Watch it.
31:35Fully loaded.
31:36Yeah.
31:37Y'all can see the joke at home.
31:38Fully loaded and then let it hang.
31:40Into eye contact.
31:42Watch it at home.
31:43Couldn't not say.
31:45Say it.
31:46You don't need to.
31:47They can watch it at home.
31:48But that's the thing is when we come back.
31:49So we have whoever flashy facade.
31:51We were meeting her for the first time.
31:53We love.
31:54And when we come back we have the history council.
31:59You know we had this breakthrough with Hoogie and taking Mooney out on the road.
32:03Did you guys get that I invented karaoke again?
32:06Invented?
32:07Huh?
32:08I'm sorry what?
32:09Oh yes yes yes.
32:10Watch it at home.
32:11With the disc because they all had writing on them and we could sing along.
32:14You could sing with a hoogie.
32:16You invented karaoke.
32:17That's what I was trying to do.
32:18That was your thing that you were doing.
32:20So that's what I wrote it down.
32:21I thought you were trying to get a moment where we all sing together.
32:24Yeah.
32:25That's karaoke.
32:26Can I be so honest with you?
32:27I was so scared you were going to come back with a medal that you made for me.
32:30It was kind of that energy.
32:31That's why I gave it that.
32:32Scared?
32:33You were scared of that.
32:34Can we retcon that right now actually?
32:36I was so afraid based on I don't know how much my friends sort of like punched me in the
32:42face over it the first time.
32:43Roasted you.
32:44You were meant to.
32:45Well to be fair.
32:46To be fair.
32:47You were meant to fear that.
32:48It was a total hawoof.
32:49It was a hawoof in the story.
32:51It was a hawoof in the story.
32:52It was good.
32:53I did that for you to feel fear on purpose.
32:56I wanted you to think I was coming back with that.
32:58Yeah.
32:59But then I wanted to invent karaoke.
33:00I thought it was like hymnal.
33:01Yeah.
33:02Singing.
33:03Okay well it's karaoke.
33:04It's very important to me that karaoke is real in this world.
33:07It's karaoke.
33:08I agree.
33:09Karaoke is real.
33:11The quest to find the spear shaker, Ko, and apparently Uncle Puss and maybe two other siblings.
33:22Two of your four siblings.
33:23They're going to be even tiny.
33:24Maybe.
33:25I don't know.
33:26There's a little flashback to the spoon on the table and your little brother breaker on
33:29his back.
33:30We're covering all that in just one ep?
33:35Come on.
33:36Who knows.
33:37Who knows.
33:38Maybe the rains will come for all of you and we will not succeed in our quest.
33:43Tune in next week to find out whether the caravan and these dusty do-gooders can get it done.
33:49See you there.
33:50Awesome.
33:51Hey, don't forget to tune in to my next LA Minute.
33:55Oh no.
33:56Don't forget.
33:57It's not going to be on the Hollywood Rez.
33:58Oh whoa.
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