00:01Georgia's religious liberty law,
00:02which allowed churches to opt out of conducting same-sex marriages.
00:06Then there are the quote-unquote bathroom laws in other states
00:09that say people must use the same bathroom of the same sex they were born as.
00:13A lot of people are saying these laws are anti-transgender.
00:16Okay, so this is just a few things that are coming up.
00:18What do y'all think, and does anyone, and should everyone care?
00:21Just jump right on in.
00:22I think we should absolutely care, and I'm so glad.
00:25Kudos to you for having this conversation,
00:27because I always get infuriated when I think about us as oppressed people
00:31wanting to oppress others.
00:33It honestly does not make sense in my head.
00:36It doesn't compute.
00:37It's weird to me because it's like,
00:39I don't spend that much time in the bathroom anyway.
00:41You get in, you pee, you wash your hands, you get out.
00:44I don't even have enough time to process,
00:46is this a real man, is this a real woman?
00:48Gender and sexuality are not necessarily intertwined,
00:50but there is a common prejudice against both.
00:53It reminds me of a couple of things that,
00:54one, they should have been expected because majorly white,
00:57upper-middle-class men were pushing the marriage equality movement,
01:02which benefits everyone who wants to be married,
01:05but beyond that heteronormative stance,
01:07the reality is there are still laws on the books
01:09that anyone can be fired for their sexuality.
01:12It's definitely a backlash to change,
01:14is what happened to women when they wanted,
01:17when they had the right to have abortion,
01:19or just in response to feminism.
01:20Like, this always happens,
01:22and we're never collectively prepared on the progressive end.
01:25It's a reminder that we need to continue to be focused on, like,
01:29you know, just because we get one thing
01:30doesn't mean, like, a wave of other things won't happen right after.
01:33There's these two E words that are so absent in these times,
01:37and it's such a damn shame,
01:38and it's empathy and education.
01:41Mm-hmm.
01:41And empathy is really just being able to put yourself in someone else's shoes.
01:46That way, even if you're not walking their narrative,
01:49you understand what pain is like can be transferable to you.
01:52Education, because we're just afraid of everything that's unknown.
01:56And I'm like, if we're moving to a space
01:59where marriage equality is accepted by all, okay,
02:03watching two people walk down the aisle,
02:05why do you care if it's a penis or another P word?
02:08I don't know if you can use that.
02:09No, we cannot.
02:10Okay, if it is a penis or a vagina,
02:14you know what I mean?
02:15Like, we've already crossed such a major threshold,
02:18which is the aisle, and now we care about the toilet?
02:20Well, when they put up the city ordinance,
02:23they made it essentially like,
02:25don't let men in girls' restrooms,
02:29which is a big misrepresentation of what, you know, being trans is.
02:32Right.
02:33But if that prejudice allow people to vote against their own interests,
02:38not realizing now that that law is not there,
02:40then that affects you.
02:42Someone can easily turn that around about you.
02:44Like, ultimately, this is still a prejudice,
02:46and it's a conservative movement pushing set prejudice
02:48that will eventually kind of, like, be used backdoor to you,
02:51because in some ways, like, trans are facing,
02:53like, trans people are facing another thing.
02:54I'm facing something as a gay man.
02:56I'm facing it as a black person.
02:57It's all interconnected.
02:59Absolutely.
02:59So people need to be very aware of, like,
03:00when you vote for one prejudice,
03:01it's giving somebody permission to then put that on you.
03:04The intersectionality, I think,
03:06is something that's really important to talk about
03:07because we act like, you know, it's completely isolated.
03:10Like, this is a gay issue.
03:11This is a black issue.
03:12This is a woman's issue.
03:13But we are, as Michael said, you know,
03:15all, like, many different things.
03:17You know, I'm black, I'm a woman,
03:18I'm, you know, daughter of immigrants.
03:20Like, we all cross into different arenas and areas.
03:24And I think that, you know, when we,
03:25that's what allows us, as you said, you know,
03:27to vote against our own interests
03:28when we start to put people in boxes
03:30and think, this doesn't apply to me.
03:32Or we have, like, a competition for suffering
03:34amongst oppression, oppressed people.
03:36Like, the black issue is more important
03:39than the gay issue.
03:40But he can't separate himself.
03:41I can't separate myself.
03:43We can't separate the different parts of ourselves.
03:45Like, I'm a straight man.
03:46Like, it doesn't, it's a law that,
03:47I guess, on the surface doesn't affect me.
03:49But at the same time, a lot of the,
03:51a lot of the laws that got passed
03:52through the civil rights movement
03:54didn't just get passed by black people.
03:56It got passed by people who look outside of themselves.
03:58So it takes people like myself
03:59and other people like me to be like,
04:01listen, this is much bigger than you.
04:03You know what I mean?
04:03Like, you have to let your voice be heard.
04:05I guess the difference is,
04:06it's a lot of folks believing that sexuality,
04:09your sexual orientation is a choice.
04:11And then the argument would be made,
04:13hey, when I popped out the womb,
04:15this was the flesh that I came through in.
04:18Any thoughts?
04:21You know what I mean?
04:23You know what I mean?
04:23I guess that's the truth.
04:24You know what I mean?
04:25You know what I mean?
04:26You know what I mean?
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