00:00There were a lot of new TV shows this fall season starring black actors, but not everyone was a hit.
00:09Which new scripted show do you think failed to live up to its hype?
00:12Y'all can go ahead and jump in.
00:14Ooh.
00:14That failed.
00:15Oh, failed?
00:17I was thinking about positivity.
00:18I know.
00:19I mean, I know you like to throw shade low, so I mean, I'm just, I lobbed it.
00:22I mean, personally, I wasn't a fan of Luke Cage.
00:24Okay.
00:25I didn't like the writing on it, the acting wasn't that great.
00:28You know, I understand what they were trying to do, but I just couldn't really tell.
00:31So you felt like it just didn't live up to the hype.
00:33Okay.
00:34What about you, Michelle Array?
00:35You know, I don't want to.
00:37Uh-oh.
00:38Is it, ma?
00:39They don't want you in their DMs is what she's trying to say.
00:42I've talked to a few people who try to watch Insecure, and they were like, I got bored.
00:46But I'm like, just, just get over the three episodes, and then it will heat up.
00:51Like, we're just establishing character.
00:53So I'm not going to say that it's, I loved, I like, I loved it.
00:57You know how I feel about Issa, like, that's my show.
00:59Of course.
00:59Look, I, look, okay.
01:01I'm not throwing shade.
01:02What I'm saying is, it's good.
01:03It's just, you know, it was a slow, it was a slow burn, but it, like, gave me everything
01:07I wanted at the end.
01:09Like most relationships.
01:10Like most, well, I'm still married, so.
01:13Oh, no, no, that's my, that's just my day life.
01:15Oh, oh, right.
01:15That's just my day life.
01:16I didn't know what we wanted.
01:17Oh, got it.
01:18Ray, what are your thoughts?
01:19I mean, I, I love them all.
01:21I did love Luke Cage, except for at the end, there was, like, this big fight scene, and
01:26Fab Five Freddy showed up, and I was so annoyed.
01:28Oh, no.
01:29So I think that, like, ruined the entire franchise from, like, why is Fab Five Freddy at the fight?
01:33And he was just like, yeah, no.
01:36Simplism.
01:37No, the product placement was just terrible.
01:39But other than that, I don't know.
01:41I feel like, was it, um, I did, like, this Uncle Buck situation.
01:45That's what the name of it was?
01:46Oh, the, the, um, with Mike Epps.
01:48With Mike Epps, right?
01:49Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:49With Neil Long.
01:50With Neil Long?
01:51Yeah, Neil Long and Mike Epps.
01:52We had, like, one and a half episodes, but I really did, like, what I can't do, like,
01:56I liked the 1.5.
01:57They did, like, like, like, episode two.
01:58I'm into, like, positivity.
02:00Did anybody watch Get Down?
02:01The Get Down?
02:02I loved Get Down.
02:03The Get Down was amazing.
02:04Thoughts?
02:04You know what it was?
02:05I feel like you had to be from that era, or around it, or some type of 80s baby.
02:10Not really.
02:11I feel like Stranger Things did really well because it was nostalgic for people from the 80s,
02:15and also the millennials were like, ooh, this is what it was like in the 80s, but I feel
02:19like the Get Down was dope, and I was like, look at all these light-skinned black people.
02:22How come I never got a call to audition?
02:25I'm just saying, but I really liked it.
02:27I had to watch it with subtitles because I was like, what are they saying?
02:29I love Jaden in it.
02:32Jaden was great.
02:33That after was everything.
02:34I don't know about all that.
02:34When Jaden does interviews, he upsets me.
02:38Yes.
02:38I mean, well, I don't know what they're talking about.
02:39I mean, I think Jaden needs a translator when he does interviews.
02:41He does.
02:41Right.
02:42I don't understand anything.
02:43I appreciate him being original.
02:45Shout out to, you know, staying true to yourself.
02:47Yes.
02:47But I agree.
02:48I don't want it.
02:48I don't want it.
02:49I agree.
02:49I agree.
02:50I just want to wear his dresses.
02:51Do they come in plus sizes?
02:52I want to know.
02:53And we're going to move forward.
02:54There are also shows on the fringe that are starting to build audiences.
02:58Are there any, quote, non-black or smaller shows you're checking for this TV season?
03:03I thought this is actually dope.
03:05Like Pitch, we had Lethal Weapon.
03:07Pitch was going up.
03:08This is Us.
03:09You know what?
03:09This is Us was good.
03:10Here's a black show that wasn't included, but it's also like a multicultural show.
03:13It's called Chewing Gum.
03:13It's on Netflix.
03:14Love that show.
03:15It's out of England, London.
03:17It's about a girl.
03:20She's originally Nigerian.
03:21Her mom was by way of Nigeria in London, and she's trying to lose her virginity at 24.
03:25Cynthia Erivo's in it.
03:27Shout out to Cynthia Erivo.
03:28Yes.
03:28You know names.
03:29I love that.
03:29I adore her.
03:30You love her.
03:31I stalk her, Loki.
03:32Wait, can we also give a shout out to the one black guy in Narcos?
03:35He did it.
03:35He did his thing.
03:36He did his thing.
03:37He did his thing.
03:38He did do his thing.
03:39I know, and he survived.
03:40I know, and he survived.
03:40Thoughts on Lethal Weapon?
03:41Uh, no.
03:42Like, you can't really touch those franchises.
03:44Yeah.
03:44You gotta leave that alone.
03:45But you just said you liked Uncle Buck.
03:47No, I didn't say that.
03:48Oh, oh, oh.
03:49Oh, my bad.
03:51Oh, my bad.
03:52I don't think it was awful.
03:54I didn't think it was good either.
03:57Maybe in the middle.
03:58Maybe not.
03:59I just think that something should just not be made.
04:02You don't touch those.
04:03What are our...
04:03There's a show I watch, Designated Survivor.
04:05Okay.
04:06I think ABC.
04:07Mm-hmm.
04:07And it's about, like, one of the congressmen.
04:09You know how they have, like, the State of the Union,
04:11and they keep one of the congressmen, like, in a locked up area
04:13in case anything happens?
04:14So, like, one night, they had the State of the Union,
04:16and the entire place blew up.
04:19So now...
04:20Sorry if there's a spoiler for any of you at Essence Live.
04:21I mean, excuse me, yeah.
04:22Good God.
04:22So now this guy, he's the head of housing,
04:25is now the president of the United States.
04:26Oh.
04:27Is he black?
04:27White.
04:28Okay.
04:28Oh, okay.
04:29Is his name Ben Peterson?
04:30No, guy from 24.
04:30Stop it.
04:31Oh, okay.
04:32Sorry.
04:32What's the guy's name from 24?
04:34I don't know.
04:34Oh, Keith.
04:35Keith is Southern.
04:35Yes, yes.
04:36Keith is Southern.
04:37This is a bad game of celebrity.
04:38What about veteran shows?
04:39Empire, Scandal.
04:41Are we still checking for those shows?
04:42Knock on live.
04:43Fell off Empire.
04:44How to Get Away with Murder.
04:45Never on Empire.
04:46Let's talk about it.
04:46Okay.
04:47The first season was intriguing.
04:48Second season, you know, once you got out of that guerrilla car, what was that?
04:52It was a guerrilla car.
04:53Oh, my God.
04:54After that, it went all the way down.
04:55Oh, like when Marlena was the devil on Days of Life.
04:58And I can't, he can't sing every episode.
05:01I just can't.
05:01No, not every episode.
05:02He opens it and closes it, and I can't do it.
05:04His baritone is just too much.
05:05I mean, at the end.
05:06It's overwhelming.
05:08At the end of the day, it's good to have black television, of course.
05:11You know what I mean?
05:11But if we actually can talk about it, Empire gives me anxiety.
05:15The highs are high and the lows are lows every two seconds.
05:17We're winning.
05:18We're losing.
05:19We're dead.
05:19We're live.
05:21It's too much.
05:21Every episode.
05:22It's the same thing every episode.
05:23Like, that's not how the industry is.
05:25And then they had a shootout once, and I didn't understand.
05:27They were, like, stealing each other's artists from other labels.
05:29It was too much.
05:30And then we were going to shoot each other in the parking lot, and I was just like, this is
05:33a bad thing.
05:33You weren't there for us.
05:34East Coast, West Coast.
05:35There are no family-oriented businesses like this.
05:37No, it's absolutely none whatsoever.
05:39We're going to explore the world forever.
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