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Essence's Yes Girl Podcast spoke to Eve about all things love, life and hip hop
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00:00Charlie and Corey.
00:02You know, I've been so excited for this moment.
00:04I just realized I was going to do the whole thing
00:06and reveal, but you're already here.
00:07Look who's here!
00:09Eve is here, my guy!
00:10Actually, we're in Eve's house.
00:12Yes!
00:12Yeah, we're in my dressing room.
00:14It's kind of, we look, I mean,
00:15it's bigger, but we,
00:17yeah, we're on set.
00:18It's a bit of a mess, so I apologize.
00:20Oh, wait, oh, but this part's actually cool.
00:22Can we talk about the certificate right here?
00:24Let me make it straight.
00:25What?
00:26Daytime Emmy Award?
00:28Okay.
00:29I know.
00:29Actually, that's amazing.
00:31I do have to say,
00:32when we won,
00:34it really wasn't mine yet,
00:36because I was just still new,
00:38but I had a small speech part in my name.
00:41There you go.
00:42So it's nice.
00:42It's actually amazing.
00:43Which means you have an Emmy and a Grammy.
00:45It's true.
00:46Oh, okay.
00:47I never thought about this.
00:48I have not thought about this,
00:49and it's true.
00:50It is.
00:51Emmy winning, Grammy winning.
00:52Yes.
00:53And you won an inaugural Grammy, right?
00:56Yes.
00:56Wasn't it the first for best?
00:58For?
00:58Well, hip hop.
00:59Best rap song collaboration.
01:02First ever.
01:03With The Roots.
01:03With Blaine Savani, right?
01:04Yeah.
01:04Oh, well, that one I won,
01:06but then there was another one with The Roots
01:08that they won for the song.
01:11And then.
01:11Right.
01:12Oh, my God.
01:12You have receipts for these.
01:14We could just see.
01:15If we start on our receipts,
01:16we will be here the whole time.
01:18There's also BET Awards
01:19and AACP Image Awards.
01:21Yes.
01:21Iconic rapper.
01:23Actress.
01:24Fashion line.
01:25Fashion icon.
01:26Aw.
01:27Designer.
01:27I mean, all of them.
01:29Everything.
01:29You're amazing.
01:29You feel the love?
01:32You guys can stay.
01:33Girl, that's what we do.
01:34We know we just like to love on our sisters.
01:36No, that's really nice.
01:37So are you.
01:38Thank you for coming here.
01:39Thank you for being here.
01:39No, thank you for having us.
01:40Thank you for having us.
01:42It's nice.
01:42But as Charlie was mentioning,
01:44your receipts are long.
01:45They're getting longer.
01:47Pretty.
01:47But is it true that you take a little step back
01:50from the spotlight and why?
01:52I did.
01:53It's like a reinvention almost.
01:54Yeah.
01:54I mean, I think I've been in the business for so long
01:59and I feel like I've had many lives in the business.
02:02You have.
02:03And I think it kind of just happened.
02:05It wasn't something I thought about.
02:06I think I was just burnt out, honestly.
02:08I was like, I'd gone from, I talked about,
02:10I just talked about this on the show actually this morning
02:12that I was in this place where, you know,
02:15I wasn't at the top of my game music week.
02:17But then it's like, where do you go?
02:19Because no one tells you.
02:20You know what I'm saying?
02:21Like no one's like.
02:22There's no road map.
02:22There's no road map.
02:23So I'm kind of like, well, what do I want to do with my life?
02:26And so I started doing shows.
02:28Like I started doing club shows, but then that burns you out.
02:30It's like, and it's like,
02:32this ain't really what I want to be doing.
02:34And yeah, then I just took a step back.
02:35And then at that time when I made the decision,
02:37like, okay, I'm just going to step back
02:39and kind of discover myself,
02:40figure out who I want to be as a woman in life.
02:43And then I met my husband.
02:45And then once we decided to get married,
02:49I decided, well, I want to spend some time with him.
02:53Yeah.
02:53You know, because we were long distance
02:54for a really long time.
02:55So yeah, it kind of just happened.
02:57It kind of just happened.
02:58So I kind of feel like I stepped back for like a few years.
03:01It was not like it was the self-care you needed.
03:05100%.
03:05Yeah.
03:05You know what I mean?
03:07100%.
03:07And I think sometimes life makes it happen.
03:10You know what I'm saying?
03:11Like we all need to be doing that.
03:13But sometimes you get to a point where you've just hit the wall.
03:16And it's like, or life just happens.
03:18And it's like, okay, this makes sense.
03:19Let me just chill.
03:20Well, it sounds like too,
03:20you were smart enough and in tune enough
03:22to take a real step back
03:24instead of trying to keep going.
03:26Definitely.
03:26I think I've always been afraid of,
03:30I don't know, I guess losing too much of myself
03:36by trying to keep up with some shit for no reason.
03:39If that makes sense.
03:40No, that does.
03:40You know?
03:41We're with you.
03:42So it's like, it got to the point where I'm like,
03:44all right, what are you doing this for?
03:46Yeah.
03:46What are you doing?
03:47So, yeah.
03:49And I imagine like, you know,
03:50when you take a break,
03:51you have so many fans, right?
03:52They've loved you.
03:53I know people were hitting you up on social, whatever.
03:56Like, where are you?
03:56What's going on?
03:57And it's even social for me.
03:59I suck on social.
04:00No, you don't.
04:00I'm better.
04:01I'm better.
04:02Look, I've been stalking you for years.
04:04I used to be like.
04:06Cricket.
04:07It would be like months in between.
04:08I'd be like.
04:09Months.
04:10Months.
04:11Like, so yeah.
04:13No, people definitely, please.
04:14And I love that about my fans.
04:15Like, they always feel like they can talk to me.
04:17Like, my husband always jokes.
04:18He's like, is that one of your cousins?
04:19Like, when we go somewhere.
04:20And I'm like, yep, that's my cousin.
04:22Like, all my fans to me are family.
04:24And they do say, girl, what you doing?
04:27Like, come back to me.
04:28What you doing?
04:28Yeah.
04:29And I love.
04:30And I'm like, knock on wood, I don't take that for granted.
04:32I'm very thankful for that.
04:34Like, I'm thankful that they're still there and still wanting to hear from me.
04:37Of course.
04:38Yeah.
04:38And so you and your husband traveled the world together.
04:41I mean, literally.
04:42Sometimes behind the wheel, all over.
04:45What did that teach you about yourself and the kind of woman you are?
04:47Just really getting out there and doing what we all dream of.
04:50Yeah.
04:51Which is following our hearts.
04:53It's a nice thing.
04:55It really is.
04:56It's like, I've always, though, also been the type of person that's like, if there's a cliff,
05:00I'm definitely going to jump.
05:01Like, you know what I mean?
05:03Like, I'm just that person.
05:04Like, show me the cliff.
05:05Yep.
05:05I'm just going to jump.
05:07So with him, it was like, I guess it taught me.
05:11He's, and it's so cheesy because I'm so not a romantic.
05:14But he is my homie.
05:16Like, he is my best friend.
05:18And I think for myself, I think I just, I just want to be happy.
05:23Like, give yourself happiness.
05:25Give yourself permission.
05:26Yeah.
05:26Give yourself permission.
05:27That's really important, the permission.
05:28Yes.
05:28Because you deserve it, lady.
05:30Yes.
05:30You give yourself permission.
05:31Yes.
05:31Like, you are able to have what you envision.
05:36And sometimes it's just taking a small step and then it unfolds into something else.
05:40So, yeah, just give yourself permission.
05:42Don't be so hard on yourself.
05:43And you two are so clearly in love.
05:46That's my both.
05:46It's literally my job to cover y'all's relationship.
05:48Okay.
05:49So, I know you see me working.
05:51Yes.
05:52You know what I mean?
05:52Yes.
05:52And thank you so much.
05:53We regularly support.
05:54It's all very supportive and I appreciate it.
05:56Yes.
05:56Of course.
05:57Happy anniversary.
05:58They're on the go.
05:59Thanks to know.
06:01But I love that love that you all share.
06:03And I also love that you are private.
06:05Yes.
06:05About your relationship.
06:06I try to keep as much as I can to myself.
06:08And I think that's really important.
06:09We're obviously in the world of social media where everybody shares every, ever, ever, everything.
06:14Breakfast.
06:15Which is fine.
06:15Breakfast.
06:16Everything.
06:16Which is fine.
06:17But, you know, I come from a different time as well.
06:20Yeah.
06:20Which helps me to keep some of that to myself.
06:23And also, it's nice for us.
06:25Like, I am so excited about my relationship.
06:30And I love him.
06:31And I love the way he loves me.
06:33And I love our life.
06:35But I feel like if we put everything out there, then what's left for us to kind of be excited about when we just have those moments to each other.
06:43Absolutely.
06:44The sacred moments.
06:44The sacred moments.
06:45Yeah.
06:46Definitely.
06:46Now, will you decide what you're going to share with on the talk?
06:49Because the type of show that it is, it's about revealing a lot of yourself.
06:52Yeah.
06:53And that's why we love it because we get to see a little bit.
06:55So, how do you balance it?
06:57It's funny because today, like, I shared a story that I was like, why did I say that?
07:01But, at the same time, it is who I am.
07:05And, honestly, those women, when I first started, I was scared.
07:08I'm not going to lie.
07:09Because even though people know me from my music and I've been honest through my music and I've been, you know, I share a certain parts of myself.
07:15I don't think I've ever just shared just me.
07:19And there are lots of stories that people don't know.
07:22Like, vulnerability.
07:23Vulnerability.
07:24That's what this show has taught me, how to be vulnerable and be okay with being vulnerable.
07:27And those stories are the scariest, those vulnerable stories.
07:31But it's healed me in a lot of ways.
07:33Like, talking about my, you know, my struggle with trying to get pregnant.
07:36Like, talking about my struggle with drinking and, you know, things like that, it honestly has helped me.
07:43So, I don't know.
07:44I think we do have a great team here, though, because the executive producers, they come in and we always see if we can find a personal story to go with the subject of what we're talking about.
07:54But ultimately, they protect us as well.
07:57Like, if it's, if they would even say, like, all right, you know, maybe you don't want to say that, but you can tell pieces of, or, you know, they protect us as well.
08:06So, but I'm fine.
08:07I'm an open book.
08:08Like, at the end of the day, it is with you.
08:10This is who you get.
08:12This is who you get.
08:13This is who you get.
08:14Do you read what people say?
08:15Because one thing about sharing your opinion is, like, Koi and I like to call it call-out culture, right?
08:19Oh, it's the call-out culture.
08:21Yeah.
08:21We just said that this morning.
08:22Like, we are all in the line of fire of the call-out culture.
08:25That's it.
08:26You can't move without some troll ready to pounce on you.
08:28No, ready.
08:29They so ready.
08:30No, I don't.
08:31I keep myself in a bubble that way.
08:33I don't know if that's good or bad, but I do.
08:35It's the same.
08:36I live in a nice little bubble of my own stuff.
08:39I mean, if it's really bad, I will, I do hear stuff.
08:41And my friends, like, I trust my friends, like, that'll call me out and be like, you know, like the Chris Brown situation.
08:49But in the end, you know, that, I was like, because at first I was like, I ain't say nothing.
08:54I said, hold on.
08:56And I was like, let me watch this.
08:59And then my friend was literally, and I trust her.
09:01She was like, yeah.
09:04It kind of sent the end.
09:05Because I trust her enough, and I watched it, I was like, you know what?
09:09Okay.
09:10I get it.
09:10I made a mistake.
09:11And so, yeah, you know, sometimes.
09:14If it's really, really bad, then I hear it.
09:16I had a situation that where a friend was, I texted something, and I sent it to her.
09:20I was like, I don't know why they met.
09:21And she goes, well, Kory, in a text, this did come off a little curse.
09:24And I had to sit there because I trust her and said, you're right.
09:28I'll send some flowers.
09:29Yes.
09:30But it's nice to have those people.
09:32Yes.
09:32Because sometimes we live because.
09:34They're your mirrors.
09:35They're your mirrors.
09:36And I think ultimately nobody here, I don't know you ladies, but I feel the energy that
09:41nobody's malicious or trying to hurt anybody.
09:44I'm trying to be out.
09:44Safe space.
09:45Safe space.
09:46So when you do maybe hear some pushback, you're kind of like, hold up.
09:50Wait a minute.
09:50I would never, because I'm not coming off as bad.
09:52But then it's nice to have those people to pull your coattail a little bit to be like,
09:56you know what?
09:57That was slightly off.
09:58Okay.
09:58Cool.
09:59Yeah.
09:59And speaking of that, right, for you, that sisterhood, you've had this lengthy career
10:04and it's still going.
10:05So you've kind of seen the era of like, you know, we have black women talk about, we didn't
10:08always support each other behind the scenes as much.
10:10And then now we see that evolution with like, we saw Lil' Kim congratulating Cardi.
10:15Remy Ma.
10:15Yeah.
10:16Remy Ma.
10:16Yeah.
10:17So talk about like, what it was in terms of sisterhood now and what it is.
10:21Oh yeah.
10:21It wasn't like that when I was coming up.
10:23Boy.
10:23It wasn't like that.
10:23I was like, I was the one that was like, fangirling over everybody.
10:27Like, oh my God, I love you so much.
10:29We should do a song together.
10:30I just can't say, girl, you should call me.
10:31And they'd be like, mm.
10:33Big.
10:34Like, and I thought it was just big sisterhood.
10:37And so I didn't go through that.
10:39But then I did, as I got older in the business, I did find that group of women that were,
10:45or have always, and still to this day, we might not talk for years, but I could probably,
10:50I know, not even probably, I know I can call and be like, hey, what's up?
10:53Or I need to talk or something.
10:55Now it's totally different.
10:56I think now that is the culture of supporting each other and being happy and for, you know,
11:02that next person.
11:04And we should be.
11:05It only makes life that much better when you are happy for that person genuinely.
11:11You know, why not?
11:12Why not?
11:13It's like there's room for, it's kind of like, thank you.
11:15Uh, Cardi B is sort of my match, my, my guru.
11:17Oh, yes.
11:18Yes, I get it.
11:19I get it.
11:19And, uh, but she was like, she said something once.
11:22She goes, why are you going to be this?
11:24It's like, oh, I hate you.
11:25Be the, like, I'm glad for you.
11:27Yes.
11:27Like, be the, be the other person.
11:29Be the other person.
11:30But it also changes you.
11:32Yes.
11:32It also changes you as a person.
11:34Like, do it in little increments.
11:35If you that chick that's always hating or got a frown on your face, do it in increments.
11:39Do it to people you don't even know.
11:40So nobody don't even know you being nice.
11:42But just do it.
11:43It'll help you change.
11:44And it makes you feel better.
11:45Yeah.
11:45It does make you feel better.
11:47And it's nice to be genuinely happy.
11:49Listen, we are a universe amongst a universe.
11:51And in the universe, there are many stars.
11:53That's the same with us as people.
11:55Period.
11:56And you blazed a lot of these trails.
11:58So what's it like to see Black women, particularly Black rappers, female rappers, just really
12:02winning like they are now?
12:03You know what I mean?
12:04It's amazing.
12:04We need that voice.
12:06It's still not enough female representation, I don't think.
12:11Because there's a lot of, it's very out here.
12:14It's too, it's true.
12:16It's just like constant.
12:18I'm like, y'all, come on.
12:19But the women that are there, I am so happy.
12:23And like, we need it.
12:25We need it.
12:25We need more.
12:26We need more.
12:27So, well, speaking of, do you think hip hop will ever have its Me Too moment?
12:34Oof.
12:36I've been asked this before.
12:37And it's a slow burn, I think.
12:45It's such a gray area.
12:48Because hip hop, whether it's the music or the videos or the culture, depending on who
12:54does what or who you're around, it's a very gray line of what is sexual, what is, it's
13:02hard.
13:02It's a hard thing.
13:04It is.
13:04It's a hard thing.
13:05But I do think there, it's a slow burn.
13:08And I think it will, something will happen.
13:11Yeah.
13:11I think so.
13:12What do you see that you love about hip hop or women in hip hop in this moment right now?
13:18Especially compared to, you know, before.
13:20I think, I don't know.
13:22I just think that music, I love that you can be a lot more expressive and not be held in
13:28such a box.
13:28I think, honestly, back in the day, it was kind of like, this is all you are as this
13:33female artist.
13:34You're not allowed to kind of do anything else.
13:38Whether that was fashion or collaborations or whatever.
13:42I think now it's like an open field.
13:45And I don't know.
13:46I think the expression is slightly different.
13:48Yeah.
13:49We love your dog.
13:50With the dog.
13:51You guys, Eve's dog is living his best life, Hendrix.
13:54But he's going to do stuff so we can give him attention.
13:56He loves it.
13:57He found a cup.
13:58He found a cup, guys.
13:59He's like, it's a camera?
14:00I know.
14:01He's like, mom, I need my moment.
14:03He does.
14:04Oh, I can tell he makes you happy.
14:05He makes me so happy.
14:06Your husband makes you happy, your family.
14:08But how do you find your joy?
14:09Because we are constantly trying to get black women to constantly seek and chase joy.
14:13Oh, my God.
14:14I think, I think it's going back to giving yourself permission as well.
14:18I think sometimes as black women, we just, we just don't.
14:22We feel like we have to do certain things and we have to play these certain roles.
14:26Or, especially when you have responsibility.
14:29A lot of times, you are that person that has to hold the shit together.
14:32You are the glue for everything.
14:34But you need to, we have to allow ourselves to be like, no.
14:40I just need to, give me a breather.
14:41It's not about taking a week or a month.
14:43Sometimes it's taking an hour.
14:45Sometimes it's taking a day.
14:46But if you can, if you, because not everybody can.
14:49But give yourself permission to breathe and take time.
14:53And do some reflection.
14:55I think for me, I do a lot of self-work.
14:57Probably to the point where it's just, yes.
15:00You journaling?
15:01What are you doing?
15:01I journal, I meditate, I listen to, like, lots of, like, sulfageal notes, which is like
15:07this music that helps me sleep.
15:09It helps your brain.
15:10I'm like, I'm constantly looking for certain things.
15:12It's like your barbershop character when she started taking those classes.
15:15It's true.
15:16No, but it's true.
15:17No, yeah.
15:17But that's what, it's funny because that movie, regardless of it being a movie.
15:23Which is a classic.
15:23It's a classic.
15:25One and two.
15:26Two.
15:27But it was a good movie, Scout.
15:31It was a good movie.
15:31It was a good movie.
15:32But, yeah, the journey, that's why I kind of, and that's why I came back for three.
15:37Because I was like, if she's not on a real life journey of, as a woman, who does she become?
15:44And I, you know, and she gave herself permission, though, to, look, I'm going to be a working mom.
15:49But I'm also going to be, I'm going to be zen.
15:51I'm going to try to be zen.
15:52And, um, just try to find, you got to find joy in little stuff.
15:57And we need that empowerment on screen.
15:59So thank you for also, I mean, you've done so much work on screen with music and TV and everything.
16:03You just keep giving us iconic characters.
16:06And we need to see ourselves, you know what I mean?
16:08We do.
16:08We see you all over the world.
16:09We still need it.
16:10We need to.
16:10And that, to me, even beyond doing stuff on screen, I think my life, like, in my life,
16:17I think one thing that I've always lived by is that the world is bigger than your block.
16:21Girl.
16:21And, which is why I've always wanted to travel.
16:25And I think, hopefully, within showing the stuff that I show and, like, traveling around
16:30the world, that's another thing that we should do as well.
16:33I think women don't travel enough.
16:34Not even just women.
16:36Black people don't travel enough.
16:37A lot of people don't.
16:38A lot of my family still does.
16:39And I'm like, come.
16:40Over here.
16:41Come do this.
16:42They just want to go to the Caribbean.
16:43No offense to the Caribbean.
16:44No offense to the Caribbean.
16:45But there's a whole world on the other side of the ocean.
16:48And it's just nice to see because the more you, it just is.
16:52And I think you discover things about yourself every time you travel.
16:55Can you tell me, give us an example of where a place that you said, oh, my God, I can't
16:58believe I'm here and I'm doing, I'm experiencing it.
17:01Charlie and I both love traveling.
17:03Yeah.
17:04I'm obsessed.
17:05I mean, I've been very lucky.
17:06I think I always feel like that when I go to Morocco.
17:11Like, Morocco is one of those places that you're kind of just like.
17:14It's a vibe.
17:14It's a vibe.
17:15Because you're in, you're so immersed in the culture.
17:18Yeah.
17:19But it's so, obviously, it's so modern as well.
17:22And, but it's beautiful.
17:23And I like, I like feeling foreign.
17:25So I like Asia.
17:26Like, I love going to, I like feeling like I know ain't nobody here.
17:30Like, but I like figuring out, I like figuring out things.
17:34I like feeling like I need to learn about a culture or a situation.
17:38So the more foreign, the better.
17:40I love it.
17:40I love that.
17:41I bet her phone is so lit with the best travel photos ever.
17:44Is it?
17:45You better be taking photos.
17:47I do.
17:47No.
17:48But you know what?
17:48My husband's better.
17:49My husband's better at it.
17:50He's really good at capturing like certain moments.
17:54I'm more of, like, I'm the chick that's like, damn, I forgot to take a picture.
17:58Like, I'm that chick.
17:59So he's the one.
17:59He's the one.
18:00Yeah.
18:00He's really good.
18:01And he has, he's really good at that.
18:03But, yeah.
18:04Well, speaking of you guys' love, and I want to end with this because it's so important.
18:07So you may not know this, but the article we wrote about you and Max is, I think,
18:11our number one article for love content.
18:13No way.
18:13I kid you not.
18:14Are you serious?
18:15They are so happy for you.
18:17They have always been.
18:18And by they, I mean the Essence readers.
18:19Yeah, thank you.
18:20They love seeing you in love and happy and winning.
18:23That's amazing.
18:23And I would love to ask you, what advice do you have for single women about,
18:28choosing the love that's right for you?
18:29Yeah.
18:30Because we've all been through some shit.
18:31Definitely.
18:32Romantically.
18:33Yes.
18:33But to come out on top, you have to choose a love that's healing and feels good.
18:36And you obviously did that.
18:38I took, it took me a while though because I had to be ready for it.
18:42And that's the other, that's another thing.
18:44Like, you have to be, you have to be ready for it and you have to be willing to,
18:49to know that you're worth what you want.
18:51And it took me a long time to figure that out because I kind of was still dealing with
18:55the same, it was like the same dude in this, in one, like different body.
19:00Yeah.
19:00And I'm just like, why, why am I attracting this?
19:02And I know it sounds hokey, whatever, like people are into, but that's real.
19:06Yeah.
19:06You are, I sometimes you get, you have the common denominator.
19:08Yeah.
19:08Like after a while you can't get mad.
19:10Like, what am I doing?
19:12Yeah.
19:12Completely.
19:13And, and so finally I did tell myself that.
19:15And, but I also was like, I did, I kind of threw away some rules.
19:20Cause I think sometimes that's what happens too.
19:22Is like, sometimes you're like, he's gotta be this, this, this, and that.
19:25And plus that, plus that, plus that.
19:26And it's just like, whoa, how about worry about, does he respect you?
19:30Does he love you?
19:30Is he going to be down for you?
19:32Is he going to have your back?
19:33Is he going to be a good partner when the hits the fan?
19:35Like those core things are so important.
19:39And I only know that because before I was with him, I was engaged to someone else who,
19:45I forgot to ask for the core things.
19:47We had a dope life, but he was a terrible person.
19:49Like he was, he was really poisonous to me as a person.
19:53And, but I forgot, I didn't ask for those things.
19:56I didn't ask for the love and respect.
19:57And, um, but I think it's all about being internal too.
20:02Like it just do the work on yourself and everything else.
20:06And it sounds weird to say, but it's true.
20:10So true.
20:11It is true.
20:12You got to, and it's a constant work.
20:14I'm chiseling all the time.
20:16It's so funny to think of like Eve with the paw prints.
20:18Yeah.
20:19But you're like, yo, I swear some days I'm like, it's crazy because it, I've been through
20:27a really dark plate.
20:28I've gone through really dark times.
20:30I've gone through a depression.
20:31I've gone through, you know, I, like I said, I drank before and I was, I really was in
20:36a crazy place and it took me a really long time to get out of that hole.
20:41Yeah.
20:42And look at you now.
20:43Yeah.
20:43Glowing.
20:44And speaking of girl, group hug, you are amazing.
20:46You and I are so much.
20:48Thank you so much.
20:49This has been so good.
20:50This was really fun.
20:51Oh, you have to come back.
20:53I will.
20:53And bring Happy.
20:54I know.
20:54That's a moment.
20:55You know, he just left, he just left yesterday too.
20:57Next time you guys come together, you're in New York, call us.
21:00We'll be there, right, Corey?
21:01Yes.
21:01And I'm just going to tease him the whole time.
21:03He's going to be like, but that's the funny thing too, because he's like, he never thought
21:06he'd have so many black women to follow him on Instagram.
21:08Oh, I know.
21:09No, he doesn't.
21:10They're all like, where are your brothers?
21:12Where are your friends?
21:13And they're waiting on photos of her too.
21:14And then they're so nice.
21:16They're so, but they're so sweet.
21:18Everybody's like so cool.
21:20And like, I love it.
21:21I appreciate it.
21:21It's really nice.
21:22It is.
21:23Well, we love the love.
21:23Thank you so much.
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