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00:15We were making a lot of money.
00:17Our name was ringing out there.
00:20With this newfound wealth came newfound jealousy.
00:23With the streets.
00:25When it comes to violence.
00:27Demetrius saw that he was either going to be arrested or murdered.
00:30So he left Detroit.
00:32Tony and I got close.
00:34Eventually.
00:35We become a couple.
00:36He just became somebody that I could trust.
00:40We start seeing some funny things going on.
00:43Like surveillance.
00:45We get intel on these guys.
00:46We got to know who they connected with.
00:47Where they go.
00:49I'm talented.
00:49We're being watched.
00:51We're being followed.
00:52I slide out the back door and I disappear.
00:54Let's just leave and never look back.
00:59Everybody moves like bugs.
01:04Like bugs.
01:04Like bugs.
01:05Like bugs.
01:06Like bugs.
01:06Like bugs.
01:07Like bugs.
01:08Like bugs.
01:08Like bugs.
01:09Like bugs.
01:10Like bugs.
01:10Like bugs.
01:10Like bugs.
01:11Like bugs.
01:11Like bugs.
01:11Like bugs.
01:12Like bugs.
01:12Like bugs.
01:12Like bugs.
01:12Like bugs.
01:14Like bugs.
01:14Like bugs.
01:14Like bugs.
01:14Like bugs.
01:15Like bugs.
01:15Like bugs.
01:16Like bugs.
01:16Like bugs.
01:17Like bugs.
01:17One, two, one, two, one, two, one.
01:22One, two, one, two, one, two, one.
01:27and never will be.
01:37The mid-90s.
01:42It was incredibly important for what BMF became.
01:46And Terry joined Demetrius in L.A. and had gone full-time to the West Coast.
01:51Before Los Angeles, Demetrius was going city.
01:56He was going to see the city building a network that, for years afterwards, he could tap.
02:01And integrate into his business.
02:04But he didn't have the supply line to actually do.
02:06They had to, in some ways, start from scratch.
02:10The reason I moved...
02:11When I moved to California, there was a lot of heat on in Detroit.
02:15I adjusted quick.
02:16Because when I arrived in L.A., it felt like a place I was supposed to be.
02:21Then it gave me that surge.
02:24In L.A., everybody's waking up doing something.
02:26You know?
02:27So, it gave me that drive to get up and go.
02:31And again, it's a lot of money to be made.
02:35I knew my...
02:36I knew my season and my time was up in Detroit.
02:38And there was no looking back.
02:40Hey, bye-bye, Detroit.
02:41I decided to just make the move with Terri.
02:45We end up...
02:46Living in this condo in California for a bit.
02:50Then I'm like, I can't live.
02:51I don't like this.
02:52I come from my house.
02:53We got a...
02:54What you gonna do?
02:55You gonna do that?
02:56The well was running dry.
03:00They needed that connection.
03:01Or that entire vision was gonna come crashing to the ground.
03:05And they would have to go back.
03:06To Detroit with the tails between their legs.
03:09This call is fun.
03:10Delegiate.
03:11Delegiate.
03:12An inmate act.
03:13A federal prison.
03:14One thing about L.A., nobody out there.
03:16They ever gave us anything.
03:18Maybe you can say we didn't know the right people,
03:20but at the time...
03:21We didn't get enough out of L.A.,
03:23so we had to find the plug.
03:26They...
03:26They had the intuition to understand
03:28that the new drug game was coming out...
03:31of Mexico and across the southern border.
03:35They knew they had to sniff...
03:36out a new source.
03:38They made it clear all they ever needed was a plug.
03:41You'd be surprised what we could do.
03:43That was an understatement.
03:45That was probably...
03:46the understatement of the century.
03:48I was fortunate enough to meet this...
03:51everybody called the green eyes.
03:53We were looking for some smoke,
03:55and he...
03:56he was selling some weed over in his hood.
04:01I'm for Westside Culver City game...
04:05in Los Angeles.
04:06I've been around drugs all my life.
04:09Seeing people use them.
04:11and sell them.
04:12And me, likewise, too.
04:13I used them and sold them.
04:14Since I was about...
04:1614.
04:17Yeah.
04:18I came from a project.
04:19I grew up on welfare.
04:21I grew up on food stamps.
04:22When educated people grow up with educated people,
04:24they tell them,
04:25here, look, this...
04:26this is what you can do,
04:27and this is what you can be.
04:28And...
04:29I had people telling me,
04:30look, this is what we do.
04:31And I was like,
04:32well, fuck it.
04:33I'll just be the best I could be at this shit.
04:35Terry and Meech.
04:36They were looking for work.
04:38And I knew that I could help.
04:41Green Eyes was a real plug.
04:43We get this piece together,
04:45this guy's a...
04:46the limit.
04:47You got tons of coke
04:49when your Mexican cartel can...
04:51our goal was just to get tons
04:54and distribute these tons.
04:56to make a lot of money.
04:57Green Eyes,
04:58he was tied to the highest levels
05:00of some of...
05:01all these cartels.
05:02So Terry and Meech
05:03went right to the source.
05:06Terry and Demetrius actually traveled to Mexico
05:09on a number of occasions.
05:11to have face time
05:12with some of these cartel bosses.
05:14The first time we ever...
05:16went to Mexico.
05:17We crossed illegally.
05:19Then we went...
05:21went to the mountains.
05:23They had guides take us.
05:26We walked in the desert,
05:27running from the army
05:29and bandidos and...
05:31eventually ended up at this ranch somewhere
05:33in Mexico.
05:34We don't even know where we at.
05:36The Mexican cartels...
05:40The Mexican cartels...
05:41had become incredibly powerful...
05:43and dangerous.
05:44They controlled the government...
05:46they also controlled the law enforcement.
05:50A lot different...
05:51out there.
05:52Practically lawless.
05:54Just like you see on those...
05:56shows on TV.
05:57Ranches with guys with guns...
06:00pick up...
06:01with trucks...
06:02with gas...
06:03with guns...
06:04barns...
06:05sometimes with drugs...
06:06everywhere...
06:06sometimes with money.
06:07That's exactly how they move.
06:11These cartels...
06:13are murdering...
06:14tens of thousands of people.
06:16bringing in millions of dollars...
06:18worth of drugs...
06:19on a daily basis.
06:21You got the magazine called Alarma...
06:23and you look at it...
06:24you know...
06:25it's ten bodies over here...
06:26with no heads...
06:27it's vicious man...
06:28they playing a vicious game.
06:31and...
06:32I think we was dying...
06:33in Paris...
06:34like three weeks...
06:35we were...
06:36orchestrating...
06:37sending the drugs...
06:38from Mexico...
06:39to us...
06:40in the...
06:41US...
06:45the cartel...
06:46was responsible...
06:47from getting it...
06:48from Mexico...
06:49and across the border...
06:50once it's...
06:51in our possession...
06:52the price...
06:53suits up to...
06:54almost triple...
06:55quadruple.
06:56so you can get wealthy...
06:57faster.
06:58Eventually...
06:59Meech and I...
07:00go back to...
07:01California...
07:04but once we started...
07:05cartel...
07:06that was it...
07:07from there...
07:08we climbed a lot...
07:09and...
07:10we was able to buy...
07:11five hundred...
07:12a thousand...
07:13cash...
07:14at a time...
07:16a lot of it...
07:17was coming through...
07:18the border...
07:19that separates...
07:20San Diego...
07:21from Mexico...
07:21I would just...
07:22get a call...
07:23and then...
07:24I'd go pick up...
07:25it was just...
07:26an exchange of vehicles...
07:26it would get to...
07:27Green Eyes...
07:28Green Eyes would call me...
07:29let me know it was here...
07:30we always...
07:31just had...
07:32cold words...
07:33that we would go by...
07:34Tuesday...
07:35call me and say...
07:36hey fat boy...
07:37you ready?
07:36go to the gym...
07:37let's go work out...
07:38so I know...
07:39he's on his way...
07:40he was bringing...
07:41200 to 300 kilos...
07:42at a time...
07:43two hours later...
07:44call me again...
07:45let's go work out...
07:46this shit didn't...
07:47got too sweet...
07:48the end of that day...
07:49we was at 1500...
07:50key...
07:51from that point on...
07:53turned into being...
07:54a world...
07:56we didn't know...
07:58exactly which cartel...
07:59we were working with...
08:00we didn't know...
08:01exactly which cartel...
08:02we were working with...
08:01somebody called me...
08:02and said...
08:03hey...
08:04he needed some jewelry...
08:05for his guys back...
08:06in Mexico...
08:07these are some...
08:08heavyweights...
08:09big name...
08:10people...
08:11who don't even...
08:11speak English...
08:12they wanted to buy...
08:13jewelry...
08:14for single...
08:15so...
08:16I gave him...
08:16two million dollars...
08:17worth of jewelry...
08:18out of New York...
08:19from the...
08:20world famous...
08:21Jacob the Jewel...
08:21and they were...
08:22blown back...
08:23by me being able...
08:24to get two million dollars...
08:25worth of jewelry...
08:26so...
08:27they called...
08:28to thank me...
08:29in Spanish...
08:30for being able to do that...
08:31and he says...
08:32hey...
08:33you don't even know...
08:34who you was talking to...
08:35I said...
08:36I don't...
08:36I said...
08:37yo man...
08:38you talking to...
08:39the heads of the...
08:40Cinder Loyal Cartel...
08:41I said...
08:42what the hell is...
08:43the Cinder Loyal Cartel...
08:44with Chapo Guzman...
08:46El Chapo...
08:48the most...
08:49infamous...
08:50drug...
08:51boss...
08:52maybe ever...
08:53the leader...
08:54of the Cinder Loyal Cartel...
08:55known...
08:56for his focus...
08:57and willingness...
08:58to...
08:59commit...
09:00violent acts...
09:01understand...
09:02we buy from...
09:03the cartel...
09:04they didn't make us...
09:05what...
09:06know...
09:07you don't do business...
09:08with us...
09:09we gonna kill you...
09:10my reputation...
09:11was just as big...
09:11as any cartel...
09:12I didn't have to...
09:13worry about...
09:14no violence...
09:15we kept...
09:16the bill right...
09:16they kept...
09:17the business...
09:18right...
09:19Meech and I...
09:20broke this...
09:21record...
09:22for moving...
09:23the most drugs...
09:24that made them...
09:25loose enough...
09:26to send us...
09:27mad...
09:26scales...
09:27and shipments...
09:28the rest...
09:29was history...
09:31the final piece...
09:33of the puzzle...
09:34was their connection...
09:35to the Mexican...
09:36cartels...
09:37it was like...
09:38turned down...
09:39a faucet...
09:40and...
09:41everybody was drinking...
09:42out of that faucet...
09:43and at that point...
09:45Demetrius can go...
09:46back...
09:47to all the cities...
09:48that he had...
09:49campaigned in...
09:50and said...
09:51you know...
09:51remember...
09:52what I promised you...
09:53well...
09:54here it is...
09:55on a silver platter...
09:56and now...
09:57we're going...
09:58to the moon...
09:56together...
10:01the stakes...
10:03rise...
10:04through the roof...
10:05when you're dealing...
10:06with cartels...
10:06that is gonna...
10:07draw the ire...
10:08of the government...
10:11now...
10:12you have...
10:13the most prominent...
10:14cartel...
10:15Sinaloa...
10:16and...
10:16up-and-coming...
10:17VMF...
10:18they fueled...
10:19each other...
10:20with...
10:21when Terry and Meech...
10:22came on my radar...
10:23we began...
10:24to understand...
10:25who they were...
10:26took time...
10:27because...
10:28in those days...
10:29there wasn't a lot...
10:30of communication...
10:31between...
10:31DEA divisions...
10:32and offices...
10:33Terry and Meech...
10:34depended...
10:35on the fact...
10:36that the good guys...
10:37the cops...
10:38were not talking...
10:39to each other...
10:40we weren't connecting...
10:41the dots...
10:41to each other...
10:43my name is...
10:44Joseph Cronin...
10:45I worked with Jack...
10:46we knew...
10:47that it was big...
10:48but we didn't know...
10:49how big...
10:50and then...
10:51it exploded...
10:52it was like...
10:53overnight...
10:54we began...
10:55to put together...
10:56an operational plan...
10:57developing...
10:58informants...
10:59undercover work...
11:00court authorized...
11:01firetap...
11:02and just...
11:03intensive...
11:04surveillance...
11:05the thing...
11:06you gotta...
11:07try to do...
11:08is number one...
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11:57They look to you.
12:00Everything about Maya Lansky, that's me.
12:02He didn't want to be seen, but yet Maya was the giant.
12:07Behind the face front of Lucky.
12:12Lucky Luciano and Meyer Lansky were the founders of the modern-day American...
12:17...mafia.
12:18They implemented a nationwide structure that's...
12:22...spanned from the West Coast to the East Coast, and they were all under one umbrella.
12:27And Demetrius and Terry were inspired by that.
12:31We got people.
12:32I move from everywhere in our mind.
12:33Everybody move as one.
12:34Every man plays his own role.
12:36Every...
12:37Everybody move like brothers.
12:38We did everything together.
12:40It was more or less a...
12:42...brotherhood.
12:43Natalia's got their mafia.
12:45If you don't hear a...
12:47...about no black mafia, no organized crime, the black side of things.
12:52It needs to say, yeah, black mafia family.
12:55It just kind of...
12:57...fit.
13:00Keeping the aberration under control.
13:02It was an easy practice.
13:03We had the manpower.
13:05Once his...
13:07...not here, then we got to do what we got to do to it.
13:09It's got to be taken care of properly and put away.
13:12And then...
13:13...shipped out.
13:15I ended...
13:17I ended up coming up with the concept of putting the drugs and the suburban high end.
13:22...areas right under their nose.
13:24These houses were stash houses.
13:27They kept the money in rotation or the drugs going out to the locations they were going.
13:32We always got the shipments where they needed to be.
13:38Our operation was quiet.
13:40It ran smooth.
13:41Our operation was quiet.
13:42It ran smooth.
13:42It was like a UPS or a Walmart situation where we get the drugs right at...
13:47...at your door and we had the best prices.
13:50Let me just start.
13:52...picking little...
13:53...different little cities.
13:54Like, one of my cousins stayed in...
13:57...of Memphis.
13:58So I would blow him up.
14:00He knows the guy that's getting all the work there.
14:02But I'm going to bring it where it's going to be cheaper.
14:04So we're going to take over that city.
14:07By the early 2000s, BMF was operating in almost two dozen different...
14:12...of the major cities around the United States.
14:14And each one of these cities had their own packaging houses.
14:17Stash houses.
14:18Their own individual nerve centers to make sure that that city, that region...
14:22...worked in conjunction with the other cities and regions.
14:25Detroit hustlers are thinking...
14:27...so we're thinking about as a corporation.
14:31So we're thinking about as a corporation.
14:32...from the...
14:36...our...
14:37...the investigation.
14:38We knew there were separations of duties.
14:40There was a...
14:42...an org chart.
14:43There was a hierarchy.
14:44And there was delegation of responsibilities.
14:48There's usually people involved in some type of security.
14:51We have obviously...
14:52...the transportation arm, which is crucial.
14:54And then somebody that can handle the money.
14:57...and then...
14:58...and then...
14:59...mich and I...
15:00...was hands-on with a lot of these guys.
15:01And we knew a lot of these guys...
15:02from growing up.
15:03It was like family around.
15:07When our first Mediterranean meets had to be...
15:12in the 90s, when I was still in high school, then later...
15:17I get a phone call saying,
15:18hey, are you ready to change your life?
15:21Be on the...
15:22I'm ready to fly to California.
15:27I just dropped my whole life and left.
15:30Eventually, I...
15:32I'm probably like third in command in LA.
15:35So, a lot of responsibility.
15:37I always fell on.
15:41The key to America is...
15:42transportation.
15:44So, if you have a product in California...
15:47you're gonna get California rates for it.
15:49But if this product is at high demand in New York...
15:52and you know how to get it there...
15:54you can almost name your own price.
15:58To move around all these cities,
16:00you might have transportation to hold.
16:02house 10.
16:03Transportation to house 20.
16:06I'm saying...
16:07minivan.
16:08I've seen Mark 8's...
16:11conversion van.
16:13Shit, I ain't even seen an old-ass Cadillac before.
16:16The load moved up.
16:17We had to move up with vehicle transportation.
16:20It came a point to where Terry was saying...
16:22we need to minimize the risk and maximize our efforts.
16:28We needed something bigger.
16:30So, they had put a word out to try to find this guy.
16:32I had Peora down in Miami.
16:36My name is Spirino.
16:37They called me James Bond.
16:40McIver.
16:41The Blues.
16:42We apostate for Paris to Значит and해.
16:44And so we needed money,
16:45we needed that.
16:46We needed plenty of Арge Pius.
16:47Sweet.
16:48I used to pay for it.
16:49I handed it this up to...
16:50At 9 to 17.
16:51thr
16:47a great applause for her!
16:49Between 87...
16:52through maybe 2003,
16:54a lot of the company was making things for a movie.
16:57They asked me to make some advice,
17:00which was, for the time, well...
17:02...advance,
17:03like voice recognition system.
17:05I aprila poeta dreta.
17:07Ah!
17:10They're not just for movie or stuff.
17:12For most people,
17:14the normal request was a video in a car.
17:17It's safe.
17:19This is a security compartment.
17:22With a CEP.
17:23Yeah,
17:24a secret compartment.
17:28Mitch and Terry,
17:29they come in the shop at the time.
17:31They give...
17:32I'm picking him.
17:33They come to me,
17:34it says,
17:35I gotta leave my business.
17:36And they said that...
17:37people didn't want to fly anymore,
17:39because of 9-11.
17:40They were scared.
17:41So...
17:42they wanted to...
17:43basically travel with a limo,
17:45and they want to have their own...
17:47safe...
17:48in the limo.
17:49It makes sense for me.
17:50Wealthy people...
17:52possibly travel.
17:53It can be a lot of money.
17:54It can be jewelry.
17:55It can be whatever.
17:56It's important.
17:57It can be a document.
17:58And it says,
17:59this safe gotta be waterproof.
18:02Anything happen in this car,
18:03even if you go underwater,
18:05you gotta be sealed.
18:08We needed limousines to have...
18:10perfect compartments,
18:11air...
18:12very tight.
18:13No dog could sniff them to avoid any heat from any...
18:17level of the game.
18:18So...
18:19I started to do...
18:20different type of configuration.
18:23You can open a lot of different way.
18:25You can use...
18:26the switch.
18:27inside the car...
18:28to be a keypad.
18:29So that I don't attract attention.
18:32Maybe you gotta press...
18:33the window switch down...
18:34and press...
18:35your black pedal...
18:36and then you put the...
18:37press on.
18:38You gotta push the switch...
18:39in the light sequence...
18:41of the safe...
18:42open.
18:43And every car was different.
18:44PR was a Wizard of Oz.
18:46Yes.
18:47And he was like me...
18:48because the things he could do with a car...
18:49he had it down to...
18:50a fine science.
18:51I...
18:52I really...
18:53I like what I was doing...
18:54but I don't know...
18:55really...
18:56where the...
18:57this car ended up.
19:01My father...
19:02nickname was Lucky.
19:03So of course...
19:04when I was born...
19:05I was a little lucky.
19:06I love driving.
19:07so I could've did it forever.
19:11For...
19:12driving...
19:13one trip...
19:14across the United States...
19:15he would pay me...
19:16twenty thousand dollars.
19:17The driver had to look like...
19:18he was a limo driver.
19:19He always had a white shirt on...
19:21and a necktie.
19:22the black slacks.
19:23I would be sent...
19:24to maybe say...
19:25California.
19:27or Miami...
19:28or...
19:29Atlanta.
19:30And I would see these guys...
19:32and they would stack a limo...
19:33in a secret compartment...
19:34full of cash.
19:35That was their payment...
19:36for the drugs.
19:37I would then...
19:38take the car back...
19:39to say...
19:40California.
19:41Then they would...
19:42stack...
19:42the cars...
19:43with drugs...
19:44and I would run the drugs...
19:45back...
19:46to the drug dealer...
19:47I just received...
19:48the money from.
19:47T had a regiment for them.
19:48They had to follow...
19:49this regiment.
19:50It was a great system.
19:52because...
19:53they had to pay first...
19:54before they received...
19:55their drugs.
19:56So...
19:57when we ran...
19:58our operation...
19:59we learned...
20:00from a lot...
20:01of our mistakes.
20:02there's a...
20:03major rule...
20:04in hustling...
20:05on...
20:06any level.
20:07you never really want...
20:08your money...
20:09and your product...
20:10in the same place.
20:12if you ever get caught...
20:13you lose everything.
20:15I'm awesome.
20:16T was very...
20:17meticulous...
20:18when it came to drivers...
20:19you had to have...
20:20a certain look...
20:21probably be a...
20:22certain age.
20:23It's like a...
20:24well oiled machine.
20:25We had...
20:26we had...
20:27videos...
20:28on...
20:29drivers getting...
20:30busted...
20:31out of Texas...
20:32Arkansas...
20:33we would have...
20:34guys sit...
20:35and watch...
20:36these tapes with us.
20:37we stopped...
20:38the tapes...
20:39he tripped them up...
20:40right there.
20:41So we talked...
20:42to pay attention...
20:43what they were being...
20:44asked...
20:45and just...
20:46answer the question...
20:47with one word.
20:47we brought...
20:48the structure...
20:49and discipline...
20:50so it would be...
20:51no accident...
20:52I have...
20:55never...
20:56heard...
20:57of any organization...
20:58doing it the way...
20:59that BML do it.
21:00Southwest T and Meech...
21:02were geniuses...
21:03in this market...
21:04and I thought...
21:05no way we can...
21:06ever be caught...
21:07it was a little...
21:12a lot of money...
21:13flowing through...
21:14BMF...
21:15a kilo...
21:16at that time...
21:17sold...
21:18probably like...
21:19$15,000...
21:20$16,000...
21:21if you're paying...
21:2210...
21:2312...
21:24to get it...
21:25that's like...
21:26half a million dollars...
21:27every trip...
21:27we was already...
21:28making millions...
21:29but now...
21:30we're making...
21:31hundreds of millions...
21:32not...
21:33I'll just tell you...
21:34that these hands...
21:35have counted...
21:36more than most banks...
21:37have counted...
21:38in two ways...
21:39to take...
21:40to pay...
21:41to pay...
21:42L.A. is all in and nothing.
21:47We were starting to enjoy the fruits of our labor.
21:52It's not cheap to live in L.A.
21:54It's not cheap to flow through L.A.
21:56But...
21:57The type of money we was bringing in,
21:59it was able to afford that lifestyle.
22:02From high-end furniture to cars, jewelry.
22:07Restaurants, you name it.
22:12At that point in time in our life, it was amazing.
22:15In L.A., they have all these...
22:17mountains, right?
22:18And me and Terry on the freeway.
22:20And he said, I'm gonna move.
22:22I love you up there.
22:23And I'm like, I don't know how you gonna make that possible.
22:25But when he sets his mind to do...
22:27something, he did it.
22:28My whole life changed.
22:32Tony and I eventually moved to Mulholland Drive.
22:37From the outside looking in, it just looked like normal family.
22:42We had barbecues.
22:43And people got up in the morning and actually left the house.
22:47Now I'm living in this different world with all the Hollywood people.
22:52in this cul-de-sac behind the gate.
22:54So I have to become...
22:57somebody else.
22:58.
23:02I'm sitting next to these wealthy women, these movie stars...
23:07and these people thought, for sure, I was just a housewife with these three children.
23:12This Susie Homemaker, I was sticking to this story to all my...
23:17my neighbors, to the schools.
23:19I taught my kids to live a double life.
23:22I taught my kids to stay in life, too.
23:23.
23:24You become neighbors with Shag, quit sh...
23:26.
23:27.
23:28.
23:29.
23:30.
23:31.
23:32.
23:33.
23:34.
23:35.
23:36.
23:37.
23:38.
23:39.
23:40.
23:41.
23:42.
23:43.
23:44.
23:45.
23:46.
23:47.
23:48.
23:49.
23:50and Cookie come in
23:52and Magic looking like,
23:53well, who are these people?
23:55So Magic says,
23:56I've never seen two black people
23:59in private.
24:00I had planes on the runway
24:01at the same time.
24:02I let you take off before me.
24:04It was kind of like...
24:05Like, yeah, we made it too.
24:06You know, like that crazy thinking
24:08and reality forgetting again.
24:10No, you're selling drugs.
24:11You're not like Magic.
24:15We started going out a little bit.
24:20Real quiet like going out
24:22to the celebrity club.
24:25That's when I started
24:26coming out of my shell
24:28ego blue.
24:30Boost a little bit.
24:32I'm human.
24:32I started to stretch out
24:34a little bit.
24:35Terry and Meech,
24:37they both have
24:38their different personalities.
24:40Meech, you know,
24:41he like to have fun
24:42and he like everybody else
24:43to have fun with him.
24:44Meech likes to party.
24:45T more than T likes
24:46to stay in the house more.
24:48That don't mean T ain't
24:49going to go out
24:49and pop on.
24:50All those bottles.
24:51But he going to take care
24:53of his business most of the day
24:54and then chill with his
24:55family.
24:56That kind of helped
24:57to state out the line.
24:59Southwest T.
25:00He always emphasized
25:02take care of your family.
25:04We in this to take care
25:04of our family.
25:05At this point,
25:09the money was
25:10$100.
25:10just everywhere.
25:12It was so much,
25:13it was making me nervous.
25:15Carlos' closet nose.
25:19We're done for next.
25:20I'm not talking
25:21about little duffel bags.
25:22We talking about
25:22a body can fit in bags
25:24of money.
25:25You know,
25:25it was just so much
25:27and it was coming fast.
25:29I wanted
25:30to be able to
25:30Terry to stop.
25:32I'm like,
25:32we got so much.
25:33How much do you think
25:34we need?
25:35People don't understand.
25:38Money changes people.
25:40It does.
25:41And I think
25:42as Terry was growing,
25:43he was changing.
25:45The more money he made,
25:47he started becoming
25:48a Terry that I
25:49didn't know anymore.
25:50It was starting to be
25:52a lot more friction
25:53and it was because of
25:55the stress,
25:56the power.
25:57But when you get
25:58that level,
26:00the...
26:00the cartel
26:01or the people
26:02that need you
26:03to supply them
26:04are not gonna let you.
26:05stop.
26:06I think deep down
26:07in his heart,
26:08every time I was sad,
26:09Terry wanted to stop.
26:10but how do you?
26:15At the same time
26:17that Terry
26:18has planted
26:19the flag for BMF,
26:20in Los Angeles.
26:22Demetrius is setting up
26:23permanent residence
26:24in Atlanta.
26:25which became a hub.
26:27BMF was growing,
26:29growing, growing.
26:30And then one day
26:31it's like they're huge.
26:33They may have been
26:34absorbing.
26:35distributing
26:36as much as half
26:37of the cocaine
26:38that Sinaloa was producing.
26:40making BMF
26:41the largest domestic cocaine
26:43distribution organization
26:44in the U.S.
26:45history.
26:46Everybody from
26:47different places.
26:48Milwaukee,
26:48St. Louis,
26:50Detroit.
26:50Texas,
26:52Atlanta,
26:53Cali,
26:54you know what I'm saying?
26:54Florida.
26:55We can't be stopped.
26:56Well, if you're going
26:56to be successful
26:57in this business,
26:58you've got to be
26:58invisible a lot of times.
27:00But Meech didn't want
27:02to do that.
27:03I believe in
27:0411 every day.
27:05like you laugh.
27:06That's to say,
27:07I go to Atlanta,
27:08I go to club,
27:08I blow a bunch of money.
27:10I feel like the feds
27:11been watching me.
27:12So, well,
27:13it's nothing for me
27:14to get on the plane.
27:15I'm going to go to L.A.
27:16and just sit back
27:17and return to Atlanta
27:18whenever I feel like it
27:19a couple of months later.
27:20We didn't have a hard time
27:22finding Meech
27:23anywhere he went.
27:25At the same time,
27:25for years.
27:27Nobody never heard of me.
27:29Nobody even knew
27:30who I was.
27:30It was quiet.
27:32I was a ghost.
27:33Nobody never heard of me.
27:35until Meech brought the heat
27:38in Atlanta.
27:40I was a ghost.
27:41I was a ghost.
27:42I was a ghost.
27:43I was a ghost.
27:44I was a ghost.
27:45I was a ghost.
27:46I was a ghost.
27:47I was a ghost.
27:48I was a ghost.
27:49I was a ghost.
27:50I was a ghost.
27:51I was a ghost.
27:52I was a ghost.
27:53I was a ghost.
27:54I was a ghost.
27:55I was a ghost.
27:56I was a ghost.
27:57I was a ghost.
27:58I was a ghost.
27:59I was a ghost.
28:00I was a ghost.
28:01I was a ghost.
28:02I was a ghost.
28:03I was a ghost.
28:04I was a ghost.
28:05I was a ghost.
28:06I was a ghost.
28:07I was a ghost.
28:08I was a ghost.
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