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00:00Today I'm interviewing one of the most defining figures from the last quarter century of celebrity
00:05history a true icon Paris Hilton and I started our careers around the same
00:10time in the two thousands I wrote about her in the pages of the magazines I've worked for she was the
00:15original influencer as the socialite queen of the nightlife with the famous last name
00:20after a very public betrayal involving a leaked sex tape Paris did something people did
00:25expect she leveraged her notoriety and built a ground-breaking reality show
00:30an entertainment empire that she estimates to be worth one billion dollars today
00:35she's a multi-hyphenate entrepreneur with ventures in music fashion skincare and even
00:40as 30 fragrances and for many people the idea of Paris Hilton still comes
00:45up someone impossibly unrelatable wrapped in luxury and privilege she's the last
00:50person you'd imagine to be just like us but in recent years Paris has evolved beyond
00:55just being a successful businesswoman she's become more vulnerable and opened up to tell her full
01:00story and what was really going on behind the glitter and glamour in doing so she's made
01:05valuable contributions to the world in a 2020 documentary this is Paris she told her how
01:10the following story of being sent off to Utah's Provo Canyon School and became an advocate for
01:15survivors of the troubled teen industry leading to the passing of legislation reform she also
01:20uses her platform to talk about the misogynistic treatment of women in media and her charity
01:25work including launching funds for wildlife relief and is a vocal advocate for animals
01:30and for the children a welfare and for the neurodivergent and the lgbtq communities and so
01:35So although Paris may live the high life and may or may not have an entire...
01:40...dedicated to her 10,000 pairs of sunglasses, she has challenges and setbacks that...
01:45...to reveal, she may just be just like us. Today we'll dive deep into her life and...
01:50...documentary Infinite Icon, a visual memoir and assess how just like us...
01:55...this is Paris Hilton.
02:00So do you have a room for 10,000 sunglasses?
02:04I have lots of sunglasses.
02:05And that was at my other house that I just moved into. So this house...
02:10...has my glam room and it has my 10,000 sunglasses in it, yeah.
02:14So I like to start...
02:15...at my interviews with a little ritual about something personal about the person...
02:19...and I was so dumb.
02:20Confounded that you have 30 perfumes. I asked your team to send me some.
02:25...so that we could test them. So tell me about this one.
02:28This is my 30th fragrance.
02:30And it's called Iconic. And it is so beautiful. It has like...
02:34It really...
02:35...the rose tint. I love rose.
02:37Yes.
02:38It's like peony, raspberry...
02:40...rose. Those are some of the notes. And it's just like...
02:45...the house is just like very...
02:47...light, summery.
02:49...gorgeous.
02:50And I feel like men and women could both wear it.
02:53I would... I wear rose tint tones.
02:55And sometimes.
02:56I love it.
02:57What...
02:58If you've got 30 perfumes, how do you decide what...
03:00...to wear in the morning?
03:02I...
03:03...just kind of like what mood I'm in.
03:05I love that I have one literally for like every day of the month because there's 30.
03:08And do you only wear your own?
03:09Yeah.
03:10Yes.
03:11I've not worn another person's perfume since I was a little girl.
03:14But it's such a...
03:15...because when I was a little girl I would always go into my mom's boudoir and she collects perfumes.
03:20And my sister and I would be playing with all of them.
03:22And I was like, Mom, one day I'm going to have my own perfume.
03:25So...
03:25So now to have just released my 30th is just another dream come true.
03:28Well, it's not just like us to have...
03:30...but they are quite reasonable, right?
03:32What a surprise point.
03:33Yes.
03:34These are at Ulta Beauty.
03:35And for the size, this one's 80.
03:38So we're here in your craft room.
03:40And this helps your ADHD, right?
03:42It does.
03:43This is like...
03:44If you...
03:45If you looked inside my mind, what it looks like.
03:47I feel like the camera can't see at all because like...
03:50...the top with the rainbow and the butterflies, the clouds.
03:53Like...
03:54It feels like a dream.
03:55And when I walk in here with the kids, like we have so much fun doing art and just hanging out and...
04:00It's also my office and I love being able to look out the window and see...
04:05...like my 11-11 office and the waterfall and the just beautiful backyard.
04:10And all of it.
04:11It just...
04:12It's your safe space.
04:13Yeah.
04:14It just literally looks...
04:15Like when I was little, I would make like mood boards and like manifest what I wanted.
04:20In life, I really...
04:21Like this is what it was.
04:22And crafting gives you that...
04:23Yeah.
04:24That safe space.
04:25I love it.
04:26Well, you're...
04:27We're here in your home.
04:28It's absolutely beautiful.
04:29It's Beverly Hills.
04:30It is not quite just like us, but it is very unapologetically you.
04:35Are there any elements of just like us around the house?
04:38Are there like piles of unfolded lawns?
04:40Are there laundry?
04:41Are there dishes fill in the sink?
04:42I feel like it's just like...
04:45Any other family's house with kids.
04:47You know, there's toys everywhere.
04:49There's...
04:50Of course, like the laundry room as a laundry.
04:52Um, but then also we have like a water slide and...
04:55Like the pink tennis court and all the other fun things.
04:59It's like...
05:00The ultimate fun house.
05:01Like I feel like this is like the house I dreamed of since I was a little girl.
05:05So it's fabulous, but it's relatable and family just like everybody else.
05:09Just like regular folks.
05:10And I think that's what your new documentary really shows as well.
05:14It's an...
05:15It's an exploration into the human side of you, just like our side of you.
05:19Because it shows your...
05:20Life as a music icon and it marries that with the vulnerability of what...
05:25You've gone through.
05:26Behind the stardust and the glitter, it says I am...
05:30You're human.
05:31Like what do you want people to take away from the documentary?
05:34I feel that...
05:35This is really like a third part of a trilogy.
05:38Like the first time I really opened up...
05:40And, you know, showed people who I was, was through my first documentary.
05:44This is Paris.
05:45And then going even deeper through my memoir.
05:48And now in this part...
05:50With Infinite Icon, it's like my whole life through the lens of music.
05:55And just going back, you know, from the beginning, since I was a...
06:00Little Girl and all these dreams that I had.
06:02But then just going into so much more.
06:05Because I feel like within these past five years, I've just been on this whole journey.
06:10Of self-discovery and just learning so much and healing so much.
06:15And just so much has happened.
06:16So I just wanted to show that story and...
06:20I feel like it's also a story that others can relate to as well.
06:22I think we're going to talk through lots of those different points.
06:25On there, but to start with the music, I loved seeing you on the stage and so happy.
06:30And it being such a fulfilling journey.
06:32How does it feel to be up there when you're performing?
06:35When I'm on stage, it feels like the most incredible, magical feeling.
06:40In the world, just seeing everyone in the audience so happy and...
06:45excited and screaming and crying and singing along and dancing and just the...
06:50energy and love in the room is like another level.
06:53And when I'm up there, I just feel like...
06:55this was what I was born to do.
06:56It's funny because I've followed your career and worked with...
07:00you and covered your career for so long.
07:03And I never realized that music...
07:05was the pure love.
07:07And so, like, it made me wonder watching...
07:10the documentary.
07:11Do you feel that becoming famous before you explore music...
07:15hampered your ability to become a pop star quicker?
07:18Yeah, I do.
07:19I think that...
07:20just, you know, from doing The Simple Life, like a reality show...
07:23I think anyone who does reality...
07:25and then if they go into music...
07:27you're just not going to be taken seriously.
07:29And...
07:30especially during the early 2000s...
07:32when just the media...
07:34was...
07:35just extremely cruel to young women in the industry.
07:38So...
07:40it was always...
07:41really hurtful to me because it was just such a dream of mine,
07:44you know.
07:45ever since I could remember what I'd love to do...
07:47since I was literally, like, three years old.
07:49Like...
07:50I just...
07:51always wanted to be a pop star...
07:52but...
07:53I just felt that...
07:54my music didn't...
07:55didn't get the chance that it deserved...
07:56because...
07:57the media was controlling everything back then...
07:59and...
08:00now today, with social media, I'm actually able to hear what...
08:03the fans and people really think.
08:05so...
08:06And you can control your own narrative...
08:07and have your own voice.
08:08Yes, exactly.
08:09Well, I was a part of that media...
08:10you were at the time...
08:11I don't think I was mean to you...
08:12but I'd like to apologise...
08:13and...
08:14but...
08:15have you got any questions...
08:15for me about, like, at that time...
08:17covering the media and how unfair it was?
08:19Like...
08:20for you, I'm sure, just being in...
08:22the newsroom...
08:23Yeah.
08:24like...
08:25were you ever...
08:25pressured for them...
08:26to try...
08:27to make you...
08:28do or say things that you felt...
08:29like...
08:30uncomfortable asking?
08:31like...
08:32you felt like it was...
08:33going too far sometimes?
08:34I think there were times when there were...
08:35stories...
08:36where...
08:37I look back...
08:38and I'm like...
08:39why...
08:40did...
08:41they take that...
08:42direction...
08:43and it questions...
08:44I think...
08:45I believe media reflects society...
08:47and society was meaner back then...
08:49and that's...
08:50what people wanted...
08:51now people don't...
08:52want that...
08:53there's different meaner elements...
08:54on social media...
08:55but I think it's an...
08:56interesting question...
08:57or I think...
08:58there are certainly things...
08:59I regret being involved in.
09:00back at the time...
09:01and...
09:02I think the media has done better...
09:03in recent years...
09:04and I hope you find that...
09:05as well...
09:06definitely...
09:07I know that...
09:08so many of the things...
09:09you know...
09:10the way that...
09:10myself and other girls...
09:11were treated back then...
09:12would not happen today...
09:13it would not be accepted...
09:14so at least it's...
09:15changed for other people...
09:16so I think that's...
09:17like the silver lining...
09:18you had to go for...
09:19a lot of pain...
09:20to get there...
09:21a big theme from the documentary...
09:22of music saving your life...
09:23tell me...
09:24how that worked for you...
09:25just...
09:27you know...
09:28just from going through...
09:29so many traumatic experiences...
09:30as a teenager...
09:32and...
09:33you know...
09:34it was just so...
09:35painful...
09:36and traumatizing...
09:37and...
09:38when I got out...
09:39of those boarding schools...
09:40I just remember...
09:41like when I would...
09:42go out at night...
09:43it was like...
09:44the one thing...
09:45that I would just...
09:45forget about...
09:46all the pain...
09:47and just like...
09:48lose myself in the music...
09:49and have so much fun...
09:50and I just...
09:50felt...
09:51like this whole community...
09:52or I just felt...
09:53so accepted...
09:54and...
09:55no one was...
09:56judgmental...
09:55it was just...
09:56all about having...
09:57an incredible time...
09:58and...
09:59just...
10:00I don't know...
10:01I just...
10:02I love music...
10:03I love to dance...
10:04I love the lights...
10:05I love...
10:06the people...
10:05the escapism...
10:06yeah...
10:07you've been through...
10:08so much...
10:09and you touched...
10:10on some of it there...
10:10what has been...
10:11the hardest thing...
10:12to recover from...
10:13you've dealt with...
10:14sexual abuse...
10:15as a kid...
10:15so...
10:16the sex tape...
10:17the media treatment...
10:18what was the...
10:19what's...
10:20been the hardest...
10:20thing to heal from...
10:21do you think?
10:22hmm...
10:23all of it...
10:24you know...
10:25I think...
10:25these are things...
10:26that will...
10:27definitely affect me...
10:28for the rest of my life...
10:29but...
10:30especially...
10:30being...
10:31in these schools...
10:32which...
10:33my parents were told...
10:34it was called...
10:35a...
10:35emotional growth...
10:36boarding schools...
10:37and...
10:38they were sold...
10:39a lie...
10:40these places...
10:41are so many...
10:40manipulative...
10:41and...
10:42their marketing tactics...
10:43everything...
10:44they had brochures...
10:45where kids were...
10:45smiling...
10:46and...
10:47there was like...
10:48rainbows...
10:49and people were...
10:50riding horses...
10:51and everyone...
10:52looked so happy...
10:53in that situation...
10:54and...
10:55it was terrifying...
10:56just to be around...
10:57these adults...
10:58who...
10:58were literally...
10:59abusing...
11:00all of us...
11:01in so many ways...
11:02and...
11:03it's just...
11:04it took...
11:05many years...
11:06for me...
11:07to even talk about it...
11:08it was so...
11:08traumatizing...
11:09where it took me...
11:10you know...
11:1120 years...
11:12to even tell anyone...
11:13why do you think...
11:14there was...
11:15a shame...
11:16attached to it...
11:17definitely...
11:18and I think that's...
11:18the way they get away...
11:19with it...
11:20where they shame...
11:21the kids in these places...
11:22so much...
11:23where they're...
11:23we...
11:24were just too...
11:25embarrassed...
11:26and scared...
11:27to talk about it...
11:28and it was just...
11:28so...
11:29the things that happened...
11:30were just so like...
11:31crazy...
11:32it just...
11:33it...
11:33you wouldn't feel like...
11:34anyone would believe you...
11:35or...
11:36and...
11:37you kind of...
11:38go into...
11:38being told you're a bad kid...
11:39this is why you're here...
11:40yeah...
11:41and it just...
11:42it was just...
11:43it's horrible...
11:44what they do in these places...
11:45and plus...
11:46they get away with it...
11:47because they can...
11:48say to the parents...
11:48oh...
11:49they're...
11:50they're bad kids...
11:51they're lying...
11:52they're manipulating...
11:53they're trying to...
11:54you know...
11:55go home...
11:53so they're gonna say...
11:54that we're abusing them...
11:55they're gonna say this...
11:56they kind of tell the parents...
11:57what they're actually doing...
11:58they're lying...
11:59they're lying...
12:00and of course...
12:01if you're sending your child...
12:02to a place...
12:03and you think...
12:03they're gonna be protected...
12:04and you have no idea...
12:05the type of people...
12:06that work at these places...
12:08it's...
12:09you know...
12:10a recipe for disaster...
12:11I mean...
12:12I read some of...
12:13in your memoir...
12:13that...
12:14you're encouraged...
12:15to verbally abuse...
12:16each other...
12:17and then hug each other...
12:18afterwards...
12:18to untangle...
12:19mental abuse like that...
12:20it's...
12:21it just...
12:22I don't understand it...
12:23it blows my mind...
12:24how they think...
12:25that that's therapy...
12:26and when you go...
12:27into a place...
12:28and you...
12:28come out...
12:29more traumatized...
12:30than when you went in...
12:31Did it make you scared...
12:32of therapy...
12:33after that?
12:34Yeah...
12:33I've never had therapy...
12:34You've never had...
12:35therapy after that...
12:36because...
12:37it made me not...
12:38trust anyone...
12:38especially...
12:39people...
12:40like therapists...
12:41because I just thought...
12:42they were all...
12:43those type of people...
12:43and...
12:44um...
12:45it was just...
12:46a neat...
12:47that being a mom...
12:48it just makes me...
12:49even more...
12:50just...
12:51upset...
12:52and that's why...
12:53I just want to...
12:54continue...
12:55fighting...
12:56and using...
12:57leave them...
12:58in so many years...
12:59until...
13:00I've told my story...
13:01and now...
13:02it's started...
13:03an entire movement...
13:04it's been so difficult...
13:05especially for my mom...
13:06and dad to hear...
13:07about these things...
13:08because they had...
13:09no idea...
13:10the forgiveness...
13:11like even though...
13:12they were tricked...
13:13the forgiveness...
13:14process for you...
13:15with that...
13:14it must have been...
13:15so difficult...
13:16because I knew...
13:17that they had no idea...
13:18because that's...
13:19none of the parents...
13:20knew that this was happening...
13:21and...
13:22um...
13:23it's been...
13:24yeah...
13:25it's been like...
13:26a whole...
13:27my mom has just been...
13:28so...
13:29sad...
13:30just to hear...
13:31what has happened...
13:32and she's been...
13:33coming with me...
13:34to DC...
13:34to help speak...
13:35with the other parents...
13:36and...
13:37to let them know...
13:38her story as well...
13:39because it's important...
13:39for other families to know...
13:40because I feel like...
13:41the parents are just as much...
13:42the victims in this...
13:43well thank...
13:44thank you for using...
13:45your voice for good...
13:46thank you...
13:47it's been...
13:48the most meaningful...
13:49work of my life...
13:50like...
13:51when I was a little girl...
13:52I would have...
13:53no idea...
13:54that one day...
13:54I would be...
13:55I was...
13:56testifying in Congress...
13:57I would have passed...
13:58fifteen...
13:59state laws...
14:00and...
14:01the past two...
14:02federal bills...
14:03to protect children...
14:04so...
14:05it may...
14:04makes it all worth it...
14:05that I'm able to...
14:06help that from happening...
14:07to others...
14:08you should be...
14:09proud...
14:09so...
14:10instead of...
14:11traditional therapy...
14:12music's been something...
14:13that really has helped...
14:14to escape...
14:14and to disassociate...
14:15with a lot of the pain...
14:16and the healing...
14:17what...
14:18what...
14:19do you think...
14:19would have happened...
14:20if you didn't have music...
14:21to help you?
14:22I don't know...
14:23I think...
14:24out of thinking...
14:25of everything in my life...
14:26like music...
14:27art...
14:28and music...
14:29things...
14:30that helped me so much...
14:31and...
14:32even through doing...
14:33this documentary...
14:34I've just seen...
14:34like the power...
14:35in music...
14:36and...
14:37even the power...
14:38in listening to a lyric...
14:39and a song...
14:39like something...
14:40that could change your mood...
14:41or even change your life...
14:42and...
14:43just so many...
14:44of my fans...
14:45have come up to me...
14:46and said...
14:47thank you so much...
14:48for your album...
14:49it saved my life...
14:49like...
14:50thank you for your memoir...
14:51you have no idea...
14:52how much it means to me...
14:53so just to see...
14:54like the impact...
14:55it could make...
14:56on someone's life...
14:57and...
14:58I love that I'm able now...
14:59to have these...
14:59concerts...
15:00and create these...
15:01safe spaces...
15:02where my fans can come...
15:03and...
15:04dress up...
15:05however they want to...
15:04wear like...
15:05these outfits...
15:06and have so much fun...
15:07and just...
15:08lose their self...
15:09in my music...
15:09and have the most...
15:10incredible night...
15:11and forget about...
15:12anything bad...
15:13that's happening...
15:14in their life...
15:14what's...
15:15what's the darkest moment...
15:16you've been through...
15:17was it in...
15:18Provo?
15:19yes...
15:20just the...
15:21things that happened...
15:22to those places...
15:23should never happen to it...
15:24anyone...
15:25and especially...
15:26not a child...
15:27and...
15:28just...
15:29being terrified...
15:30every single day...
15:31of like...
15:32what was gonna happen next...
15:33and then having...
15:34severe nightmares about it...
15:36for...
15:37you know...
15:3820 years...
15:39until I started talking...
15:39telling my story...
15:40Were there moments...
15:41where you didn't want...
15:42to be here anymore?
15:43What...
15:44when I was in there...
15:45I was...
15:46it felt...
15:47everyone I felt...
15:48felt that way...
15:49like...
15:50you just...
15:49was like...
15:50it would be better...
15:51not to live...
15:52than being in these...
15:53type of places...
15:54um...
15:56but...
15:57it did make me really strong...
15:58where...
15:59it almost...
15:59prepared me...
16:00for Hollywood...
16:01in a sense...
16:02because I don't know...
16:03if I could have...
16:04survived the two...
16:042000s...
16:05and the way...
16:06I was treated...
16:07unless I had already...
16:08been through...
16:09such hell before...
16:09documentary...
16:10there was a line...
16:11that really stuck with me...
16:12where you said...
16:13life doesn't stop...
16:14life doesn't stop...
16:15with the drama...
16:16so neither should you...
16:17and I found it...
16:18really interesting...
16:19and something...
16:20I've tried to embrace...
16:21like...
16:22life is crazy...
16:23and bad things...
16:24are always gonna happen...
16:25and you've just...
16:24got to...
16:25power through...
16:26and we see that...
16:27in the documentary...
16:28when the fire...
16:29happens in the trailer...
16:29and you're...
16:30you've just...
16:31got to keep going...
16:32it's a pivotal moment...
16:33in the production...
16:34of the...
16:34at all...
16:35how do you...
16:36manage to carry on...
16:37when bad things happen...
16:38and...
16:39you're somebody who...
16:39things have happened...
16:40constantly...
16:41and you...
16:42are always smiling...
16:43you're always positive...
16:44from going...
16:44through so much...
16:45in my life...
16:46it's made me...
16:47so strong...
16:48and resilient...
16:49where...
16:50I can make it...
16:49through anything...
16:50so no matter what...
16:51life throws at me...
16:52it just continues...
16:53to make me...
16:54stronger...
16:55every single time...
16:56well...
16:57I'm loving...
16:58this pop journey...
16:59what...
16:59do you want to do...
17:00next...
17:01with your pop career...
17:02this has just been...
17:03so...
17:04so much fun...
17:05just...
17:06living out my dreams...
17:07and now...
17:08I've been in the...
17:09studio...
17:10the past year...
17:11and just finishing up...
17:12my third album...
17:13which will be...
17:14really...
17:14released next year...
17:15and I can't wait...
17:16we have a big tour...
17:17planned...
17:18so I can't wait...
17:19to perform...
17:19around the world...
17:20and then get started...
17:21on my fourth album...
17:22this is what...
17:23I love to do...
17:24more than anything...
17:25Have you got...
17:26advice from your...
17:27musical friends...
17:28like Brittany?
17:29we were just talking...
17:30about music...
17:31the other night...
17:32we were in Cabo...
17:33for her birthday...
17:34so it was such...
17:35an amazing night...
17:36and...
17:37yeah...
17:38we always love...
17:39to like...
17:40play music...
17:39to dance...
17:40and...
17:41we were just talking...
17:42about like...
17:43what our...
17:44favorite songs are...
17:44and like...
17:45what type of music...
17:46that we love...
17:47and...
17:48Do you think...
17:49you could ever...
17:50do anything...
17:51with her?
17:52so we'll see...
17:53what happens...
17:54yeah...
17:55I love her so much...
17:56she's...
17:57an angel...
17:57and you...
17:58you threw her...
17:59birthday party...
18:00was that accurate?
18:01yeah...
18:02that's lovely...
18:03that she's got...
18:02such a good...
18:03sisterly bond...
18:04with you...
18:05and you keep it...
18:06very low-key...
18:07as well...
18:07and I'm sure...
18:08she appreciates that...
18:09you're someone...
18:10who is...
18:11super...
18:12famous...
18:12do you...
18:13ever wish...
18:14you weren't famous...
18:15at all?
18:16I feel like...
18:17this is something...
18:18I was born to do...
18:19as well...
18:20I feel like...
18:21there's certain people...
18:22in my...
18:22in my life...
18:23that this is like...
18:24what they're meant...
18:25to be...
18:26so...
18:27even though it's been...
18:27so difficult...
18:28and hard...
18:29I try to think about...
18:30all the beautiful things...
18:31that come with it...
18:32and...
18:32and I really see...
18:33fame...
18:34as like...
18:35a superpower...
18:36to make people happy...
18:37so...
18:37I love that...
18:38I'm able to just...
18:39make people's days...
18:40by like...
18:41taking up a...
18:42photo with them...
18:43or spending time with them...
18:44or just...
18:45anything...
18:46smiling...
18:47just...
18:47I feel like...
18:48it just makes people...
18:49so happy...
18:50so I think that...
18:51the good things...
18:52you can do with it...
18:52and I love that...
18:53I'm able to use...
18:54my platform...
18:55just to make a difference...
18:56in other people's lives...
18:57so...
18:58even though...
18:59it has been...
19:00very traumatizing...
19:01at times...
19:02it's worth it...
19:03I like that...
19:04I love that...
19:05you're using your fame...
19:06and your platform...
19:07to do good in the world...
19:07how...
19:08how about money...
19:09how...
19:10do you think money...
19:11brings you happiness?
19:12It does...
19:12because I have worked...
19:13so hard...
19:14and...
19:15success is something...
19:16that is always...
19:17really...
19:18been a driving force...
19:19for me...
19:20and...
19:21I feel very lucky...
19:22just to...
19:22grow up in my family...
19:23and have incredible...
19:24business mentors...
19:25with my grandfather...
19:26and my parents...
19:27and...
19:28I always have...
19:29loved to make them...
19:30proud...
19:31and...
19:32I love that...
19:33I've created this...
19:34entire brand...
19:35and empire...
19:36and now...
19:371111...
19:37my media company...
19:38so...
19:39it...
19:40makes me happy...
19:41because I'm able...
19:42just to...
19:42feel...
19:43that happiness...
19:44and I think that...
19:45also...
19:46just from going...
19:47to those schools...
19:47and being so...
19:48controlled...
19:49that I made a promise...
19:50to myself...
19:51that I was gonna work...
19:52so hard...
19:52become so successful...
19:53that...
19:54no one could ever...
19:55control me...
19:56or tell me...
19:57what to do again...
19:58so...
19:57I really see it...
19:58as...
19:59freedom...
20:00so you used...
20:01the pain...
20:02that you went through...
20:02restrictions...
20:03and the abuse...
20:04to...
20:05drive your...
20:06your...
20:07ambition...
20:08yes...
20:09what...
20:10do you say...
20:11to people...
20:12who say...
20:13you've had it...
20:12easy...
20:13because...
20:14because you came...
20:15from money...
20:16I could totally...
20:17understand...
20:18people saying that...
20:17because of course...
20:18I'm very...
20:19privileged...
20:20that I'm...
20:21you know...
20:22came from a family...
20:22where I've been...
20:23able to...
20:24learn so much...
20:25from such...
20:26incredible...
20:27business...
20:27men...
20:28and women...
20:29and...
20:30just...
20:31you know...
20:32coming from...
20:33my last name...
20:32as well...
20:33so...
20:34but I've seen a lot...
20:35of other people...
20:36who come from...
20:37you know...
20:37prestigious families...
20:38and...
20:39a lot of them...
20:40don't do anything...
20:41like...
20:42a lot of people...
20:43I know...
20:44like...
20:45they just get like...
20:46an allowance...
20:47from their parents...
20:48still...
20:49they've never...
20:50worked a day...
20:51in their life...
20:52because they...
20:53are just...
20:54handed everything...
20:55and...
20:56they've never...
20:57had to work...
20:58for any of it...
20:57so...
20:58yes...
20:59I can understand people...
21:00they don't know...
21:01and don't see...
21:02how much work...
21:02has went into...
21:03everything that I do...
21:04and...
21:05just how...
21:06what I've created...
21:07and what I've built...
21:07and...
21:08you know...
21:09what I've...
21:10been through...
21:11on top of all that...
21:12so I think if...
21:13people know me...
21:14they understand...
21:15but then...
21:16if there's like...
21:17an outsider...
21:18who just...
21:19you know...
21:20see...
21:21...
21:17the name Paris Hilton so I can understand how some people would think that because I would say I'm
21:22self-made but like my granddad paid me to go to journalism school everybody's gonna get some help
21:26how much
21:27help did you get at the beginning um I like used to get like an allowance but
21:32I haven't got anything since I was 18. 18 so that's the same as me my
21:37mine was probably 21 through college so you didn't get money from a parent
21:42so there's no trust fund nothing like that I've been working since I was 16
21:47and so they didn't help with the deposit for a house or anything like that I did everything on my own
21:51so that's
21:52really not fair that people like criticize you for being not believing that you're
21:57self-made because there's a New York Post thing saying fans are reacting saying she's delusional
22:01thinking she's self
22:02right if they actually knew everything and saw everything they would understand
22:07that that's that's really interesting so congratulations how will you handle that balance
22:12balance with your own kids because obviously you've been incredibly successful
22:17how will you create the balance of trying to work out how much to support to give them
22:22uh I think it's you know I've just from growing up in this way and seeing so many
22:27others I think if you spoil your children you will destroy them so that's something
22:32that my husband and I talk about where we of course want to give them the most beautiful life make them so happy but
22:37we also want to instill that work ethic in them and make them want to do something with their own
22:42lives and I think with my babies growing up and seeing just how hard I work and
22:47everything I accomplish it's going to be really inspirational to them and that's why I've built so
22:52much at the house where I have like my recording studio here the podcasting studio the
22:57photo studio just like so much of my work I'm able to do from home and my kids are always
23:02there watching everything so I feel like that will be instilled in them just like any
23:07so I'm in a meeting here like they're sitting on my lap so like I feel like even though they're babies
23:11they're soaking it
23:12in and they'll continue to do so throughout their life so um yeah
23:17for my kids I just want them to be so happy and be incredible human beings and
23:22I want them to do whatever makes them happy you've talked a lot about reclaiming your narrative
23:26what's one
23:27misconception about Paris Hilton that you're still trying to correct
23:30I feel like I've been such
23:32an open book in the past five years where I've discussed everything
23:37so I don't really think there's any anymore I feel like I've cleared up so many misconceptions
23:42I feel like before they just you know thought I was a dumb blonde because of the simple life
23:47but I've proved that I am not a dumb blonde I'm just very good at pretending to be on
23:52well that comes on to my next question actually I loved in the
23:57movie when um you're doing a recording and somebody says you can use your real voice
24:02on this one and it reminded me I was on your BFF show with you back in the day
24:07and we would record and you'd have this baby voice saying that's hot
24:10and then we'd go off and you'll be with
24:12Benji talking about beats in this voice so low and I would just be like she's two different
24:16people
24:17and so like you you pretended to be somebody
24:22was that where did that come from was that protectionism protecting yourself by being
24:27a caricature or was that strategically to play a part and earn money
24:32I think you know I didn't even realize until you still do it
24:37that was higher Lola that was Lola see I literally can't even control it I think it's just such a part of me now
24:42because I've been doing it for so long um but I do think it was a trauma response to what I want
24:47I went through um where I just kind of wanted to build this perfect like a Barbie doll
24:52life and like a Disney kind of Barbie
24:57character
24:58and then um you know getting the simple life and then the producer
25:02is telling me you know we want you to play this kind of blonde spoiled airhead
25:07and play into this character and this was the first reality show and I had no idea
25:12I'd have to continue on that character for five seasons straight and then every talk show
25:17and everything I would go on I would be the character and then I just kind of got stuck in it almost because
25:22the whole world thought that's who I really was and I'm also a very naturally shy person
25:27so I feel like being the character it made it easier for me to kind of
25:32be silly and say say the ridiculous things I don't know I feel like if the simple life had me
25:37been talking in my normal voice and not playing the character it would not have been the show that it was
25:42I can see that I know Nikki your sister and she's shy too and that that shyness
25:47comes across with both of you and it's an understanding that like you're playing a part
25:52to get through social anxiety sometimes I'll do that at parties like I've got to be down
25:57wait for tonight so like how do you deal with social anxiety now
26:02I still have social anxiety and I think that might be the ADHD as well because I'm just so
26:07in my head all the time and I get just I think also since the pandemic like
26:12I've gotten just like way more anxiety than I used to
26:17but then if I'm around like if I bring like the best friend or like I'm with like a group of people I trust
26:22then I feel more comfortable but if I'm just like going in somewhere and not knowing
26:27anyone sometimes I get a little nervous but I think that's normal I feel like everyone
26:31I mean it's just like us
26:32it's just like regular folks everybody deals with mental health issues but people wouldn't imagine that Paris
26:37Hilton this striking beautiful blonde woman with everything would be nervous going into
26:42going into an event yeah I think people would definitely be surprised to know that
26:47what's your relationship with the character of Paris Hilton these days
26:52I think before I saw it as like a form of protection and now I see it as
26:57like my just fun silly side like you know there's a time and
27:02place for everything and like when I'm doing TikToks or just like doing certain content or
27:07you know like different campaigns with brands and they want me to play the character like I
27:12I will do it and I love doing it and then obviously when I go to
27:17DCC and I'm speaking on Capitol Hill and talking about serious subjects that's when you see
27:22like the real side of me but yeah I just I couldn't do it
27:27back and forth we can all have silly sides and serious sides so it's fun
27:32I think a lot of artists and people do like they are a lot of people I've spoken to like actors
27:37Beyonce, Sasha Fierce, JLo, Jennifer Lopez, we all have that and
27:42we all have the one when we're at home you know chilling in our sweats and just like
27:47back and just like ourselves so you are just like us you're playing the part of an entitled heiress
27:52but now 20 years have passed I have to ask you the question was the warm-up
27:57question set up or did you really not know what warm-up was at the time
28:03I did
28:04you did that
28:05I did yeah
28:06you do
28:07I just thought
28:07I thought it would be a funny line
28:08and you came up with a line
28:10I just yeah it wasn't like I thought about it
28:12in advance because I didn't even know we were going to talk about Walmart but when it came up I was like in my mind
28:17I was like this will be funny I had no idea it would be such an iconic line that people to this day still say
28:22and now I have like my entire kitchenware and home
28:27your fragrances were in Walmart
28:29all of it yeah so
28:30when was the last time you were in Walmart?
28:32I was there two weeks ago in Arkansas actually I go there all the time
28:37to go meet with the whole team out there and I was showing them all the new products from my new line
28:42for Paris and Pups and my new homeware line and kitchenware line and
28:47storage line and all of it I have so I have like over 400 SKUs of products
28:52inside of Walmart so now I know they don't sell walls they sell Paris Hilton Pratt
28:57you're just a comedy icon
29:00moving on to something a bit more difficult the sex
29:02the sex tape it's really heartbreaking looking back on the doc in the documentary and you talk
29:07about it that you had no agency about this besides Pamela Anderson
29:12you were the first celebrity to go through this publicly and
29:17internet was different copyright was different it was a wild wild west and now it would be impossible
29:22to happen like was there no way of stopping it coming out how was that
29:27time it was just humiliating
29:32so painful I did not want to leave my house I was just
29:35I was just
29:37it was just you know just trust somebody and have them violate
29:42violate me like that was just the most horrible thing that you could do to a person
29:47and there was nothing that I could do about it and
29:52yeah that's something that will haunt me the rest of my life and if that happened to
29:57the day it would be illegal
29:59um
30:01so
30:02I mean I think
30:03like another thing I went through that now would be illegal for people today so I think
30:07that again is the good part that other girls don't have to go through that but um
30:12yeah that was um
30:14I mean when you frame it that this was a young girl
30:17who didn't
30:18who was coerced to do this and then was publicly humiliated and
30:22flogged for it afterwards it like it really wasn't really
30:27wasn't fair I'm not going to mention the name of the guy because you cleverly didn't do that
30:32in the dark
30:33have you ever spoken to that ex again?
30:35no
30:36would you ever have
30:37conversation with him?
30:38no
30:39have you thought about when your kids find out
30:42about the sex tape and how you'll approach it with them?
30:45that
30:47that's going to be a really just painful subject to talk about like
30:52I don't even know
30:53like I haven't even thought about what I'm going to say since they're only two years old right
30:57now
31:04but
31:06that happen to them or they'll be taken advantage of so it's just
31:11horrible and now just being a mom again just thinking about that just makes me even sadder
31:16for me that i had to go through all that and so publicly and have people vilify me for
31:21it when i was just a 19 year old kid basically yeah the media would just
31:26brutal for you the news media particularly the expert in the documentary said
31:31you're targeted because of your intelligence to play the game effectively we kind of played the
31:35game together
31:36the similar to princess diana you worked with the press at times welcome them into your life
31:40posed for the
31:41paparazzi do you think you paid the price for that by welcoming the media
31:46i didn't think that was fair at all i was always respectful and kind
31:51and i knew that people were just trying to do their job so i would always be
31:56nice to everyone i never was one of those celebrities that would you know tell them off or
32:01or go off on them like i've seen some people do so i just thought it was
32:06really unfair the way that they did that i'm going to read some of the headlines from the documentary
32:24you
32:11and just ask you like how did they make you feel back then
32:15like
32:16like the idea that this was a description of a young woman in her early 20s
32:20paris hilton what's
32:21what's the point famous for nothing bimbo summit no brains all fame a new low for
32:35you
32:26celebrity culture like you're human just like the rest of us how did that feel at the time
32:40you
32:31it was really hurtful you know i was just a young girl just
32:36living my life but i had the whole world watching and judging and pick
32:41everything apart and just i felt like no matter what i did or what
32:46what i accomplished people just refused to
32:51i don't know just see see me as like a human being it was just like
32:56a cartoon character or like a punchline that they just make fun of and
33:08you
33:01it just always hurt my feelings because i've always been such a sensitive person as well
33:05and then
33:06and then
33:10and
33:12and
33:14and
33:16and
33:17and
33:18and
33:18and
33:19and
33:20and
33:11like 10 times more than a neurotypical person.
33:16And especially there's something called RSD, which is Rejection Center.
33:21It's a very sensitive dysphoria, which 99% of people with ADHD experience.
33:26So to have things said like that is just...
33:31physically painful, like it's like being...
33:36stabbed in the heart, like it's just...
33:38I would cry so much all the time, just like...
33:41constantly hearing things and people making up lies and stories.
33:45It was just...
33:46a nightmare.
33:47What would you say to the people who wrote those headlines now?
33:51Say, look at me now, honey.
33:54I've always loved...
33:56proving people wrong.
33:57So much of my career, I've been underestimated and misunderstood.
34:01So now today, just to see my life and everything that I've accomplished...
34:06and my beautiful family and just everything that I've done.
34:11And now, I've had so many people come up and apologize to me.
34:15So many reporters.
34:16Just people on the street, if I'm doing an interview...
34:21just so many people have said, I'm so sorry for the way that myself and others treated you...
34:25because you did not...
34:26not deserve that.
34:27So it feels...
34:28it's very healing to hear that from people, to realize...
34:31that they know it was wrong.
34:32What advice would you give to the... to the young girl who...
34:36who's going through that now?
34:39My advice would be...
34:41that you shouldn't listen to people like that.
34:46that what matters most is what you think of yourself.
34:49So don't let that outside noise...
34:51affect how you feel about yourself...
34:53because a lot of people...
34:55a lot of people...
34:56can be mean...
34:57especially...
34:58you know...
34:59now with the internet and...
35:00you know...
35:01people are able to...
35:01hide behind...
35:02behind a computer...
35:03and...
35:04It's a different...
35:05form of meanness now.
35:06Yeah.
35:06It's different...
35:07I feel like the media...
35:08it wasn't like that...
35:09but then there's like the...
35:10internet trolls...
35:11who are just like...
35:11these people living in like...
35:12their parents' basement...
35:13like miserable...
35:14with no life...
35:15and like...
35:16just sit on the computer all day...
35:17just writing...
35:18rude things to people...
35:19like...
35:20I just would...
35:21tell them like...
35:22I would feel bad...
35:23for this...
35:24these people...
35:25that they...
35:26are that miserable...
35:26that they need to go in...
35:27and try to...
35:28tear you down...
35:29and don't let it affect you.
35:30In the movie...
35:31I found it really interesting...
35:32you talking about your ADHD...
35:33and thank you...
35:34I think...
35:35like...
35:36I believe...
35:36mental health challenges...
35:37it's so important...
35:38to talk about them...
35:39and normalize them...
35:40and destigmatize them...
35:41to make people feel less alone...
35:42and...
35:43you've been a leading person...
35:44with ADHD...
35:45to do that...
35:46the quote that really hit me...
35:47from the documentary was...
35:48I have all the success...
35:49but I wish I could be as happy...
35:51as someone...
35:52without the ADHD...
35:53demon voice...
35:54who had had all these things...
35:56still have...
35:57would have had all these things...
35:58so...
35:59do you still feel like that?
36:01it's...
36:02it's gotten...
36:03much better...
36:04like...
36:05now that I've...
36:06really studied...
36:07and researched...
36:08and know so much...
36:09about my ADHD...
36:10but...
36:11growing up...
36:12no one was talking about it...
36:13especially with...
36:14young girls...
36:15so...
36:16I had no idea...
36:17like...
36:18being in school...
36:19and constantly...
36:20getting in trouble...
36:21all the time...
36:21like...
36:22not able to focus...
36:23like...
36:24always in detention...
36:25always failing...
36:26like...
36:27all the tests...
36:26because I couldn't...
36:27remember anything...
36:28or like...
36:29losing my homework...
36:30just like so many things...
36:31would happen...
36:31and...
36:32you know...
36:33people with ADD...
36:34would just be called...
36:35like...
36:36bad kids...
36:37and I think that's...
36:36you know...
36:37one of the reasons...
36:38I got sent away...
36:39to these schools...
36:40is because of it...
36:41because I just...
36:42was not able to...
36:41focus in school...
36:42or anything...
36:43no matter...
36:44how hard I tried...
36:45um...
36:46and then...
36:47now...
36:48knowing...
36:49that...
36:50the voices...
36:51from that...
36:52that are negative...
36:53self-talk...
36:54are not true...
36:55like...
36:56is always a good thing...
36:57so anytime I do...
36:58have that happening...
36:59I'll just...
37:00immediately say...
37:01that's not you...
37:02that's just your...
37:01ADHD...
37:02So that's how you manage it...
37:03that's really...
37:04I really love sharing...
37:05solutions...
37:06Yeah...
37:06how you...
37:07I talked to this...
37:08amazing doctor...
37:09named Dr. Hallowell...
37:10who was like...
37:11one of the leading...
37:12ADHD psychiatrists...
37:13and...
37:14he has it as well...
37:15and he...
37:16calls it...
37:17the demon...
37:18it's called...
37:19DMN...
37:20which is like...
37:21the default...
37:21mode network...
37:22is what the real...
37:23term port is...
37:24In the documentary...
37:25you call it...
37:26the demon...
37:26it's fascinating...
37:27the idea that...
37:28all these mean things...
37:29are being said...
37:30about you...
37:31and the press...
37:31but it's worse...
37:32in your head...
37:33that you were saying...
37:34worse things...
37:35about yourself...
37:36so...
37:37that was just...
37:38painful...
37:39and I think...
37:40through doing...
37:41this documentary...
37:41I feel like...
37:42I never even...
37:43gave myself...
37:44the credit...
37:45for like...
37:46how much...
37:47I survived...
37:48even going...
37:49through that...
37:50like...
37:51after...
37:52the media...
37:53say all these...
37:54crazy things...
37:55like...
37:56it was just...
37:57it was...
37:57so traumatizing...
37:58back then...
37:59so I'm so...
38:00like...
38:01grateful...
38:02now...
38:03to have healed...
38:04from that...
38:05and now...
38:06I'm able...
38:07to tell my story...
38:08to others...
38:09because I know...
38:10there's so many...
38:11that we're going...
38:12through the same thing...
38:13right now...
38:14and...
38:15just to...
38:16tell them...
38:17and let them know...
38:16that...
38:17this is something...
38:18that we all experience...
38:19and that those things...
38:20are not true...
38:21and...
38:21to be strong...
38:22and to lean on...
38:23in on it...
38:24as your superpower...
38:25because I wouldn't be...
38:26the woman I am today...
38:27without it as well...
38:28I wouldn't be...
38:29the entrepreneur I am...
38:30I wouldn't be...
38:31the creative...
38:31I wouldn't have...
38:32so many different businesses...
38:33without...
38:34the ADHD...
38:35so...
38:36I want...
38:36to inspire others...
38:37that...
38:38this can be...
38:39a superpower...
38:40and you can just...
38:41lean in...
38:42to what you love...
38:43they say that...
38:44we can't focus...
38:45but...
38:46that's not true...
38:47we can...
38:46hyper-focus...
38:47like no other...
38:48we just can't...
38:49focus on things...
38:50that are boring...
38:51but the things...
38:52that light us up...
38:53we will focus...
38:54like a superhero...
38:55that's really interesting...
38:56it's just that...
38:57all of our brains...
38:58have worked differently...
38:59and so...
39:00the fact you're...
39:01talking about it...
39:01realising this...
39:02and showing it's actually...
39:03a positive...
39:04not a negative...
39:05is a great example...
39:06for society...
39:06so thank you...
39:07I've had so many...
39:08families...
39:09kids...
39:10people come up to me...
39:11thank you so much...
39:12for writing your song...
39:13ADHD...
39:14like...
39:15my child...
39:16used to be so...
39:16ashamed of it...
39:17but now...
39:18that's their anthem...
39:19and they're singing it...
39:20every morning...
39:21and telling everyone...
39:21ADHD...
39:22is my superpower...
39:23so I love how...
39:24I'm able to reframe it...
39:25especially for...
39:26these young kids...
39:27growing up with it...
39:28because I know...
39:29that a lot of them...
39:30are struggling...
39:31and back in the noughties...
39:31I felt you couldn't...
39:32admit...
39:33to having any...
39:34any weaknesses...
39:35and now it's different...
39:36opening up with your...
39:37vulnerabilities...
39:38is your superpower...
39:39Yes...
39:40for sure...
39:41Growing up...
39:41in the 2000s...
39:42like...
39:43no one was even...
39:44saying the word...
39:45mental health...
39:46like...
39:47if you heard that...
39:48they'd be like...
39:46like...
39:47mental hospital...
39:48like...
39:49they wouldn't...
39:50understand that...
39:51I'm a big believer...
39:51there's a lot of work...
39:52in the mental health...
39:53space...
39:54that like...
39:55everybody...
39:56has got somebody...
39:57in the family...
39:58who's going through...
39:59something...
40:00scratch...
40:01about...
40:02clinical depression...
40:03and it...
40:04people don't talk about it...
40:05and we should encourage it...
40:06make people...
40:06for less alone...
40:07so thank you...
40:08for all of your work...
40:09Thank you...
40:10I think it's amazing...
40:11the new generation...
40:12and how open they are...
40:13just how...
40:14you know...
40:15we were all taught...
40:16like...
40:17if anything's wrong...
40:18don't talk about it...
40:19just like...
40:20everything's fine...
40:21but when you do talk about...
40:21things...
40:22it just shows...
40:23the power of vulnerability...
40:24and telling your truth...
40:25and...
40:26just like...
40:27letting it out...
40:28and it just like...
40:29helps you so much...
40:30and then it makes...
40:31others feel...
40:31safe to open up as well...
40:32and then it starts...
40:33like this whole domino effect...
40:34where so many people...
40:35could heal...
40:36around the world...
40:37So you are just like us...
40:38the relatable things...
40:39are what matter...
40:40so...
40:41all of my gay friends...
40:42are totally jealous...
40:43I'm here with you...
40:44at your house...
40:45and...
40:46until I saw...
40:47this documentary...
40:48I didn't really realize...
40:49why you were a gay icon...
40:51and...
40:52I had tears...
40:53streaming down my face...
40:54when you said...
40:55they are the ones...
40:56who...
40:56gave me the greatest gift...
40:57showing me...
40:58what it truly means...
40:59to live my truth...
41:00for so long...
41:01I was waiting...
41:01really down...
41:02by the shame...
41:03over what I went through...
41:04in the troubled teen industry...
41:05I've never heard...
41:06the straight...
41:06the gay person...
41:07understand...
41:08the shame...
41:09that gay people...
41:10go through...
41:11living in a world...
41:11being othered...
41:12and not feeling...
41:13welcomed...
41:14and the fact...
41:15that you could empathize...
41:16with that...
41:16with what you've...
41:17gone through...
41:18I found that...
41:19really powerful...
41:20so...
41:21thank you...
41:21how did you realize...
41:22your similarities...
41:23with the gay community?
41:24just...
41:25especially...
41:26getting out...
41:27of those schools...
41:28and then...
41:29David LaChapelle...
41:30and I...
41:31had been very close...
41:32friends forever...
41:33and I was one of his muses...
41:34and he would take me...
41:35to all the gay clubs...
41:36so I was hanging out...
41:37with him...
41:38and Amanda Lepore...
41:39and Patricia Field...
41:40and that whole club scene...
41:41and just...
41:42feeling so...
41:43like...
41:44much love...
41:45so accepted...
41:46just seeing...
41:47these people...
41:48who just like...
41:49live their life...
41:50out loud...
41:51just...
41:52beautiful...
41:51inside and out...
41:52and...
41:53just...
41:54learned so much...
41:55from that...
41:56just...
41:56incredible community...
41:57in so many ways...
41:58Pride is my favorite...
41:59time of the year...
42:00it's...
42:01so much fun...
42:02just being on stage...
42:03performing...
42:04going to all the gay clubs...
42:05and...
42:06feeling the energy...
42:07the love in the room...
42:08it's like...
42:09nothing...
42:10I can even describe...
42:11it's just so...
42:12much fun...
42:13Well thank...
42:14thank you for your support...
42:15the way you vocalize...
42:16that connection...
42:17to the community...
42:18was so...
42:19breathtaking...
42:20how have you...
42:21dealt with that...
42:21shame...
42:22that you talked about...
42:23I've just felt...
42:24that...
42:25a lot of the things...
42:26that have happened...
42:26in my life...
42:27or because...
42:28other people hurt me...
42:29and something...
42:30another message...
42:31in this film...
42:32that I wanna...
42:33have others know...
42:34is that...
42:35the shame...
42:36should not be on us...
42:38it should be on the people...
42:39who hurt us...
42:40and...
42:41I was actually speaking...
42:42with one of the...
42:43survivors...
42:44who...
42:45went to Provo Canyon School...
42:46with me...
42:46and she said that...
42:47to me...
42:48when we were doing...
42:49my first documentary...
42:50and that's something...
42:51that stuck with me...
42:51ever since...
42:52and it's so true...
42:53I feel like...
42:54so many of the times...
42:55so many of us...
42:56held on to shame...
42:57which...
42:58never should've been on us...
42:59it should've always been...
43:00on that person...
43:01hurt us...
43:02so I think that's...
43:03such a powerful message...
43:04for people...
43:05to know...
43:06in their hearts...
43:06because I feel like...
43:07that would...
43:08take away...
43:09a lot of pain...
43:10from people...
43:11if they knew that...
43:11motherhood...
43:12they say...
43:13becoming a parent...
43:14will humble you...
43:15and make you just like us...
43:16what's...
43:17one way...
43:18your kids have humbled you...
43:19recently...
43:20they are...
43:21who's...
43:22my...
43:23everything...
43:24my world...
43:25and...
43:26every day with them...
43:27just feels like...
43:28a dream come true...
43:29I've...
43:30always wanted to be a mom...
43:31and...
43:32now...
43:31we're about to have...
43:32these two...
43:33little angels...
43:34who are just...
43:35the cutest little...
43:36fun...
43:37like...
43:38sweet...
43:39smart...
43:40um...
43:41they're...
43:41just...
43:42everything to me...
43:43I'm so...
43:44so lucky...
43:45that I'm their mom...
43:46When was your...
43:46latest...
43:47breakdown...
43:48in tears...
43:49mummy...
43:50meltdown...
43:51moment...
43:51they're...
43:52they're...
43:53really well behaved...
43:54they're...
43:55so well...
43:56they're so...
43:57like...
43:58just...
43:59smart...
44:00they're so kind...
44:01they're so gentle...
44:02they're on an amazing...
44:03sleep schedule...
44:04like...
44:04they're just like...
44:05the perfect...
44:06kids...
44:07So...
44:08when they become teenagers...
44:09if they turn out to be wild...
44:10how are you gonna do it?
44:11with this?
44:12I...
44:13I think about that a lot...
44:14that's...
44:15that scares me...
44:16um...
44:17you're not gonna send them...
44:18to a provost school...
44:19we know that...
44:20definitely not...
44:21um...
44:22that's why...
44:23even with this house...
44:24like...
44:25I wanna like...
44:26build like...
44:27this world...
44:26where they...
44:27never wanna sneak out...
44:28because they'll just...
44:29always wanna invite...
44:30all their friends here...
44:31and this will be...
44:31like...
44:32the house...
44:33everyone...
44:34like...
44:35is at...
44:36movie nights...
44:37and going in the pool...
44:36and...
44:37the water slide...
44:38and just like...
44:39having so much fun...
44:40where like...
44:41I feel like...
44:42they'll never wanna leave...
44:41and if they try to sneak out...
44:43we have...
44:44the most advanced...
44:45security system...
44:46security guards...
44:47cameras...
44:48lasers...
44:49everything...
44:50so...
44:51there will be no...
44:52sneaking out...
44:53on my watch...
44:54so you're...
44:55you're creating...
44:56safe environments...
44:57very safe environments...
44:58so they don't want to leave...
44:59and if they did...
45:00they couldn't...
45:01anyway...
45:01um...
45:02what's something...
45:03your mum and dad...
45:04have taught you...
45:05about...
45:06um...
45:06life and parenting...
45:07that you wanna...
45:08pass on to your kids...
45:09or...
45:10is there anything...
45:11you wanna do differently?
45:11I love that...
45:13my mum and dad...
45:14just always made...
45:15every...
45:16holiday especially...
45:17so...
45:18special...
45:19just like...
45:20my mum is...
45:21like...
45:22the queen of Christmas...
45:23so with all the decorating...
45:24like...
45:25all of that...
45:26I learned from her...
45:26and just making...
45:27all those family moments...
45:28just like...
45:29unforgettable...
45:30and like...
45:31just all...
45:31all of the memories...
45:32and family traditions...
45:33that I learned from my parents...
45:34I'm now...
45:35passing on to my children...
45:36and...
45:38just how important...
45:39family is...
45:40and being close with each other...
45:41and...
45:43yeah...
45:44just like...
45:45the holidays are so special...
45:46and I love that...
45:47my mum really...
45:48instilled that into me...
45:49and...
45:50yeah...
45:51how is Kathy...
45:52as a grandma...
45:53how is grandma Kathy...
45:54is she hands on...
45:55or...
45:56did she spoil them rotten...
45:56don't call her grandma...
45:58her...
45:59she's called Kiki...
46:01and...
46:02she is...
46:03the cutest...
46:04and the best...
46:05and the kids...
46:06love when...
46:06she comes over...
46:07they love going to her house...
46:08she has like...
46:09a whole...
46:10like...
46:11children...
46:11nursery...
46:12playroom...
46:13at the house...
46:14that has...
46:15all the coolest toys...
46:16everything...
46:17so they're always going over there...
46:18and playing with her...
46:19and she's very childlike...
46:20in so many ways...
46:21as well...
46:22so she's just so...
46:23sweet with them...
46:24and...
46:25she's obsessed...
46:26especially with London...
46:27she's like...
46:28London is like...
46:29my twin...
46:30because if you look...
46:31at their baby photos...
46:31they look so similar...
46:32oh really?
46:33that's so cute...
46:34but she's an amazing...
46:35yeah...
46:36she's amazing...
46:36grandma...
46:37so you have...
46:3820 boy embryos...
46:39on ice...
46:40I read...
46:41after trying for a girl...
46:42for so many times...
46:43will you keep them on ice?
46:45yeah...
46:46you never know...
46:47so you...
46:48you consider more kids?
46:49I...
46:50I love having two...
46:51but you never know...
46:52because they're getting so big...
46:53so I...
46:54I love babies so much...
46:56so...
46:57maybe there'll be...
46:58another brother one day...
46:59we'll see what happens...
47:00or if someone...
47:01and the family needs one...
47:02we have...
47:03lots of...
47:04boys...
47:05we talked about this earlier...
47:06about how...
47:06trolls on social media...
47:07are difficult...
47:08and there's so much mum shaming...
47:09on social...
47:10like critiquing...
47:11like a baby's...
47:12physicality...
47:13so appalling...
47:14how...
47:15do you handle things like that?
47:16what does it...
47:16bring out on you?
47:17I'm...
47:18like a protective...
47:19mama bear...
47:20so...
47:21I get...
47:21very protective...
47:22and...
47:23you know...
47:24sometimes...
47:25there is...
47:26you know...
47:26people online...
47:27who want to be...
47:28mean...
47:29and negative...
47:30and I just think...
47:31it's so wrong to...
47:31talk about a baby...
47:32in a bad way...
47:33or...
47:34or...
47:35just like a cruel way...
47:36so I...
47:37am always very...
47:38protective of it...
47:39but...
47:40there's been so many...
47:41moms...
47:42and others...
47:43who have been so supportive...
47:44and so amazing...
47:45and...
47:46I love being able to...
47:47share my life with them...
47:48and...
47:49it's always nice to hear...
47:50from the other moms...
47:51because...
47:52moms are superheroes...
47:54and we can do it all...
47:55just like...
47:56just like us...
47:57that's a leveler...
47:58and...
47:59like...
48:00no matter if you've got...
48:01millions of dollars...
48:01like...
48:02you still have to go...
48:03through the same struggles...
48:04as other parents...
48:05how do you...
48:06and Carter...
48:07think about...
48:08balancing privacy...
48:09with sharing family moments...
48:10like...
48:11do you ever...
48:11ever have any tension...
48:12about that?
48:13I feel like I...
48:14share so much...
48:15of my life...
48:16um...
48:17and I love my fans...
48:19and I know that they...
48:20love seeing...
48:21my...
48:21my family...
48:22so...
48:23I love to show them...
48:24certain moments...
48:25or not...
48:26like...
48:27every single day...
48:26but...
48:27all like...
48:28the...
48:29special...
48:30fun moments...
48:31that we do together...
48:32it's always...
48:31fun to share them...
48:32like...
48:33Phoenix...
48:34just like...
48:35always is saying...
48:36the cutest thing...
48:36things...
48:37and...
48:38I don't know...
48:39What's the funny thing...
48:40he said lately?
48:41He...
48:41just everything...
48:42like...
48:43he just like...
48:44he says...
48:45all of my catchphrases...
48:46like...
48:47that's hot...
48:48iconic...
48:49loves it...
48:50It's living...
48:51he says...
48:52he says...
48:53he loves singing that song...
48:54London just learned it...
48:55so she...
48:56she's now saying it...
48:57iconic...
48:58is favorite...
48:58is London's favorite word...
49:00and it's our dog's name...
49:01as well...
49:02so...
49:03they're just so...
49:04cute...
49:05I can't...
49:06I'm like...
49:07obsessed...
49:08I can't take it...
49:09So the whole gang now...
49:10the crew back in the...
49:11the day are all mums...
49:12do you and Kim Kardashian...
49:13ever bond over motherhood...
49:14these days?
49:15We do...
49:16we talk a lot...
49:17just about...
49:18our kids...
49:19how much fun it is...
49:20to be a mom...
49:21um...
49:22I met Dr. Wong...
49:23through her...
49:24who was...
49:25both of our doctors...
49:26for our...
49:26two babies...
49:27and...
49:28she's such an amazing mom...
49:29Did she give you advice?
49:31She said just to like...
49:32soak up every moment...
49:33because it...
49:34it goes so fast...
49:35and they are just...
49:36growing up so fast...
49:37How often do you two...
49:38hang out?
49:39Um...
49:40we're both so busy...
49:41so anytime...
49:42like during the holidays...
49:43or if it's like...
49:44an event...
49:45or something...
49:46I love her so much...
49:48I'm so proud of her...
49:49Carter seems so...
49:50supportive...
49:51how do you parent together?
49:53We're...
49:54just...
49:55the best parents...
49:56we have so much fun...
49:57with the kids...
49:58Carter is just so...
49:59sweet...
50:00and...
50:01fun...
50:02and gentle...
50:03and just an amazing dad...
50:04and...
50:05they love him so much.
50:06and we just have...
50:07the best time...
50:08with the kids always.
50:09Do you agree...
50:10on all the parenting principles?
50:11I think...
50:11not come up...
50:12things you've disagreed with so far...
50:13No.
50:14You sorted that all out beforehand?
50:15Yeah.
50:16Um...
50:17how does he really feel...
50:18about your obsession...
50:19with pink...
50:20and your interior design?
50:21Like...
50:21the pink tennis court...
50:22and everything?
50:23He loves it.
50:24He loves anything...
50:25that will make me happy.
50:26It's like...
50:27really incredible.
50:28That...
50:29is an amazing moment...
50:30because the next question was...
50:31how...
50:31how...
50:32how and when did you know...
50:33Carter was right for you?
50:34But like...
50:35I just...
50:36knew right away...
50:37there was just something...
50:38special about him.
50:39I could just tell...
50:40like...
50:41just...
50:41right...
50:42when he looked at me...
50:43and smiled...
50:44I could just look in someone's eyes...
50:45and see...
50:46whether...
50:47like...
50:48they're a good person or not...
50:49and he...
50:50has such incredible family value.
50:51he's so...
50:52kind...
50:53and patient...
50:54and loyal...
50:55and sweet...
50:56and...
50:56funny...
50:57and loving...
50:58and...
50:59lifts me up...
51:00in a way...
51:01that no one ever has before.
51:01and...
51:02He seems to love you...
51:03for you.
51:04Yeah.
51:05I just feel like...
51:06so safe with him...
51:07where I feel like...
51:06anything is possible...
51:08and...
51:09that's an amazing feeling...
51:10because it's...
51:11been so hard...
51:12to trust people...
51:13with everything...
51:14that's happened in my life...
51:15and...
51:16I met him at a time...
51:17where I just...
51:18it's like...
51:19I'm not even gonna...
51:20get married...
51:21I'm not...
51:21be with anyone...
51:22like...
51:23I don't need a man...
51:24and...
51:25that's what I was thinking...
51:26and then...
51:27met him...
51:28so...
51:26they always say like...
51:27love will find you...
51:28when you're not looking for it...
51:29and I never believed that either.
51:31but...
51:32I guess it's true...
51:33because it worked with me.
51:34And so...
51:35you've done...
51:36so...
51:37so much...
51:38what...
51:39unfinished business have you got?
51:40what have you still got to...
51:41prove?
51:42what's next?
51:43I feel like I've...
51:44accomplished like...
51:45every...
51:46everything...
51:47that I would want to in life...
51:48but I'm just gonna...
51:49continue on...
51:50with everything I'm doing.
51:51with 1111 Media...
51:53and just all of the...
51:54different projects I have...
51:55with...
51:56that...
51:57and...
51:58I'm very excited for...
51:59Para-V...
52:00my skincare line.
52:01that...
52:02I developed...
52:03for the past three years...
52:04and...
52:05building new products...
52:06with that as well.
52:06and...
52:07continuing on...
52:08with the music...
52:09and all my advocacy work.
52:11and...
52:12continuing to build IP...
52:14and then...
52:15getting involved.
52:16more in real estate...
52:17with my own hotels...
52:18and...
52:19um...
52:20yeah...
52:21just...
52:21Paris Hilton Hotels...
52:22rivaling Hilton Hotels...
52:24um...
52:25the skincare line...
52:26you...
52:27are aging backwards...
52:28you look...
52:29amazing...
52:30like...
52:31I have a...
52:31pretty fancy mask...
52:32like...
52:33just...
52:34just like us...
52:35but you have a whole machine...
52:36I read.
52:37yeah...
52:36The spa, the sliving spa.
52:38The sliving spa.
52:38What works the best for readers?
52:41But anti-aging, how can we look as amazing as you?
52:43What works the best is PeraVe, my skincare line.
52:46Of course.
52:46And then the LED red light is incredible.
52:50Cryo.
52:51Therapy, hyperbaric chambers, the number one thing for longevity.
52:56Which I'm obsessed with.
52:57I just invested into Brian Johnson's company as well.
53:01Blueprint, which I'm obsessed with.
53:04So I think, yeah, it's important.
53:06To do all of those things.
53:08Try to stay out of the sun.
53:10But, yeah.
53:11Red light really does work.
53:13I have like a whole red light bed, which I'm obsessed with.
53:16And I'm building an entire spa downstairs.
53:19It would be like an 8,000 square.
53:21So we go from an 8,000 longevity center and spa.
53:23So we go from an 8,000 longevity center.
53:26To testing out just like us.
53:28Because that's not quite.
53:31Just like us.
53:31But now it's time to find out how just like us Paris Hilton really.
53:36Is it's a quick fire round.
53:38Questions will come fast.
53:39The answers should come faster.
53:40And there's.
53:41No hiding from your humanity.
53:42Are you ready to prove you're just like us?
53:44Yes.
53:46Stars are blind is one of my top five karaoke songs.
53:49But it's really hard to sing.
53:51Are you just like us?
53:52And have you ever sung karaoke?
53:55Yeah.
53:56I love karaoke.
53:56What are your songs?
53:57Do you sing stars are blind?
53:58Yes.
53:59Of course.
53:59Stars are blind.
54:00And I love.
54:01Betty Davis eyes by Kim Cards.
54:02One of my favorites as well.
54:04So iconic.
54:06Classic.
54:06How much help do you have around the house?
54:09Yeah.
54:10We have like.
54:11The nannies.
54:12The people who helped take care of the house.
54:13And.
54:15The.
54:16Handyman and.
54:17Yeah.
54:18All of them.
54:19And I love them so much.
54:20They're like part of the family.
54:21What's the most surprisingly normal thing you do every day that no one would ever expect
54:25from Paris Hilton?
54:26Most normal thing just being with my.
54:31Kids in the morning eating cereal watching cartoons.
54:36I like frosted flakes.
54:37I love cooking.
54:38I love making French toast with frosted.
54:41Flakes cooked onto it.
54:42It's so good.
54:43That's a good American breakfast.
54:44She is just like us.
54:46How much do you spend on a glam a year in a year would you estimate?
54:49I don't know.
54:50I've never.
54:51Looked into that but I'm sure a lot.
54:54What's one household chore you.
54:56What do you secretly love doing yourself?
54:58I don't know.
54:59You don't do any.
55:01Organizing.
55:06I like organizing as well.
55:07I like organizing.
55:07I like tidying.
55:08I hate cleaning.
55:09When was the last time you pumped?
55:11I used to pump gas when I used to drive everywhere but I honestly.
55:16never leave the house now like unless I have to and then I have a driver and then.
55:21I'm always just going directly from here to the airport and flying somewhere so I have not done.
55:26on gas in a long time but if I was driving I would do it I don't mind.
55:30You would.
55:31Okay you are just like us.
55:32Well thank you for sharing your incredible journey and the wisdom.
55:36that you've imparted and how you've helped people along the way and I do think.
55:41how vulnerable you are it shows that you really are just like us so thank you Paris.
55:44Thank you this was so much.
55:46fun.
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