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01:24But also the Indian Prime Minister Modi
01:26And the head of the European
01:27Council will walk in and take questions
01:29From the press. Obviously this
01:31Raps now a two day summit
01:33In India. The two sides also suggest
01:36That this is now a new chapter for
01:37Strategic relations when it comes to
01:39The two blocks and of course we have to look at the details
01:42Of this trade deal which will
01:43Cut tariffs on more than 90%
01:46Of European products
01:47European sources also telling us in the run
01:49up to the announcement that this will open up a market that until now has been very heavily
01:54protected by the Indians. Obviously, this could be good for European carmakers, for chemicals,
01:59for wine, spirits, olive oils. In some of these sectors, tariffs could go all the way down to
02:05zero. And of course, we've got to remember that this is a country that's not just one of the
02:08fastest growing markets in the world, but it's also a country of more than 1.4 billion people.
02:15I should also note, and this is very important just before we have to leave, that the timing
02:18is interesting because both India and the European Union, of course, have come under pressure
02:22from tariffs from President Trump, this country operating under a 50% tariff regime. They both
02:27say they want to diversify and open up to new markets.
02:31OK, Maria Tadeo, our EU news editor there reporting from Delhi on that major announcement breaking
02:36today. Thank you so much for that. The final deal, of course, we'll have to get the green
02:39light from the European Parliament. But you can read more about Maria's reporting on Euronews.com.
02:44But now, back in Brussels, Mark Rutte, the NATO Secretary General, was in the European Parliament
02:49yesterday with a very stark message for MEPs. Take a look.
02:54President Trump is doing a lot of good stuff, I believe. The 2% reached by all NATO countries now
03:00at the end of 2025 would never, ever, ever have happened without Trump. And do you really think
03:05that in The Hague we would have come to the 5% commitment without President Trump? No way.
03:10And if anyone thinks here, again, that the European Union or Europe as a whole can defend
03:15itself without the US, keep on dreaming.
03:18Keep on dreaming. That's the NATO chief there, telling European nations that they would need
03:22to increase defence spending to 10% if they, quote, really want to do it alone. He added
03:27they would also need to build up their own nuclear capability and that would cost billions
03:31of Europe. Euronews' Stefan Kolbe was following the speech for us and joins us now here in
03:36the studio. Good morning, Stefan.
03:37Good morning, Maeve.
03:38Tell us, what more did Mark Rutte have to say and how is it received by MEPs?
03:43Well, first of all, these hearings at the European Parliament tend to be very casual affairs,
03:48like the European version of a fireside chat. And people expected some muscular statement
03:55from Mark Rutte, but it wasn't the way they thought. He was quite fiery, as you've seen,
04:02saying that, you know, Europe cannot defend itself alone without the Americans. And he praised Donald
04:08Trump. And one more said, I say something that you don't like, I will defend Donald Trump,
04:13saying that the increase of defence spending is largely due to the US president. So that left many
04:19of the members of parliament with a little bit of frustration. That's not what they wanted to hear,
04:24really. Also important, what Mark Rutte didn't speak about, and that was the Greenland deal. It
04:29was very short on details. We still don't know, almost a week after Davos, what's in this deal?
04:35Is this a deal at all? But sure, Mark Rutte then has not a mandate to negotiate on behalf of all the
04:40member states.
04:41And some people a bit concerned about the fact that he's a little bit like teacher's pet here to
04:46the US administration. Well, absolutely. And, you know, some EU leaders, the former and present,
04:53reacted to this. And Charles Michel, the former Belgian prime minister and EU council president,
04:59said, you're wrong, dear Mark Rutte. Europe will defend itself. And Donald Trump is not my daddy. That's
05:05a potshot at Mark Rutte. Of course, Europe's future requires vision, courage and leadership,
05:11not resignation, submission and fatalism. So there you have it. Others follow,
05:16the French prime minister, for example, saying the same thing. Europe can or should, you know,
05:22work to be able to defend itself in the future. And we have to put some distance between us and the
05:27Americans. Now, I believe that this is somewhat of an academic discussion here because of things that
05:34have been going on in the United States itself. So in December 2023, Joe Biden was the president.
05:39Congress passed overwhelmingly a bill that barred any president from unilaterally withdrawing from
05:47NATO. So that would require approval from the Senate or an act of Congress. So they were,
05:54if you remember, and during Trump's first term, he already toyed with the idea of America leaving NATO.
05:59And here you have a Congress bipartisan bill, by the way, orchestrated by Mark Rubio,
06:07the Secretary of State today. So it's, it's, Trump cannot just walk away like this.
06:12Okay, Stefan Kobe, thank you so much for all those details. We'd love to hear your view as well on
06:17that. Write to us here at Europe Today at yournews.com. But now moving on, you might have noticed the
06:23French president has soared in popularity lately, quite simply for his fashionable shades in Davos.
06:29Emmanuel Macron is also using this moment in the limelight to push through a social media ban for
06:34minors that has also been approved by the French assembly. Jacob Janis tells us more.
06:42France is officially at war with social media and the battle cries are echoing all over Europe.
06:48According to a French health watchdog, half of teens spend between two to five hours a day on their
06:55smartphones. President Macron says our children's brains are not for sale and wants a social media
07:02ban for under-15s by September. But your reporter went for a dinner with some tech lobbyists and it's
07:09clear now this ban sounds like a nightmare. Let's investigate. Supporters say it would protect
07:17kids from harmful content. Over a half of European teens have seen online pornography. The average
07:24age of first exposure? Just 11. And in the era of Elon Musk's Grok AI, they don't even need to search
07:33for it. They can generate it. So let's cheer for the AI revolution. And Australia, which was first to
07:40ban social media for teens, claims the ban helps kids focus. Like children actually need focus to
07:47study. Personally, I think algebra is much easier when you are interrupted every 12 seconds.
07:54Finally, the ban would hurt profits of the big American and Chinese apps. And my legal team advised me
08:01not to name them. So here instead is a video of a sad puppy. Just look at his sad eyes.
08:08Look, if your child doesn't recognize your face anymore because it isn't vertical, don't worry.
08:15Just send him a message with a funny cut video. With the social media ban, you can't. So case closed.
08:23And I just hope my new friends who work as lobbyists liked my explainer. My job is done here.
08:31Now let's go back to doom scrolling.
08:38Jakob Janis there. But now coming up, we'll be joined by the Executive Vice President of the
08:42European Commission, Henne Verkunen. The Finnish politician and former MEP and Government Minister
08:48is currently in charge of tech sovereignty, security and democracy. Good morning, Commissioner.
08:53Good morning. Great to have you with us. Look, the big news, of course, breaking this morning
08:58is happening in New Delhi. Tell us more about how this EU trade deal with India will impact our viewers.
09:04Of course, it's a very important deal from the European Union perspective, because together,
09:09European Union and India, we are two biggest democracies in the world. And I think this is
09:14great news for everybody. So more business opportunities for our SMEs, for our industries,
09:19also for our service providers. And of course, also for the Indians, especially when it comes to
09:25technologies. We are working also together with India. We have our technology partnership also with
09:31India. And especially when we are looking at the talent part, we know that India is having very much
09:38ICT experts and talents. So we are really lacking workforce in Europe. So this is now the certain field
09:44where we are working together with India, also to attract more talented ICT experts from India to
09:49work in Europe. Okay, see if your work got out for you there. And now just talk to us about the
09:54investigation that you've launched this week against Elon Musk's controversial AI chat box, Grok.
10:00Tell us more about your findings here. We opened also formal investigation yesterday on this topic,
10:06especially now to investigate that how X has been assessing and mitigating the risks. So it's
10:13obligation under DSA that always the service providers, they have to assess and mitigate the
10:19systematic risks that they are posing. And now we see that Grok is now included more and more to X
10:24services. So it really looks that how the risks are taking care there. And also, we saw also that
10:33there was certain illegal content that Grok was pushing. We know that now the feature has been changed,
10:40but we are also now analyzing about the other other risks really related to Grok.
10:45And we saw that Grok AI generated about 3 million sexualized images in just two weeks. That's
10:51according to research. Can you keep up with this though? It came very late like you're here.
10:56We have very clear obligations for the online service providers that they have to all the time mitigate
11:03the risks what they are posing, especially now when more and more AI is also integrated to online
11:09services. More and more AI is also running the recommender system of the online services. So this
11:15is certain obligation now for the online platforms to really look that they are having practices in place
11:21and illegal content, for example, it's not spread online.
11:24And has X responded? Because we all know how Elon Musk feels about the European Union.
11:29Yes, they have been in dialogue with the commission services. We already sent it earlier for them
11:34requests for information about this topic, that how they have been assessing the risks. And also,
11:39we made before Christmas already the decisions that they have to now retain all the documents related
11:45to Grok and X. And now we opened also the formal proceedings. So they have been in dialogue with
11:51our services all these months. Okay. And how are you making sure that we can get it right here
11:55in the EU, that we can make sure that we have smart regulation when it comes to AI, but that we can also
12:00thrive? That is exactly what we are seeking in our regulation, that we want to have right balance.
12:07They're boosting innovations, but at the same time, it's also important to be aware of risks.
12:12And when it comes to new technologies also like to AI. So it's very important also that the developers,
12:17that they are also taking care of their responsibility here. And we have already AI Act,
12:23which is covering also the generative AI part. And the 26 AI developers, they were also
12:30signing code of practice together with us. So it means that they have to take care of the security,
12:35safety of the systems, and also they have to be transparent. They have to respect copyrights.
12:40So I see that we have a good balance in the European Union when it comes to digital regulation.
12:45And how are you handling the pressure though, coming from the US administration,
12:49trying to back you in a corner, trying to get you to kill the regulation?
12:52We know that these digital rules are very important for the Europeans, because we want to make sure
12:57that our citizens can trust to technologies. We want to be sure that our digital environment,
13:03it's fair, transparent, democratic, and safe. But you're seen as a rule maker. You were just in
13:10Davos last week. Everyone looking at you as the regulator, not the innovator. But there was good
13:14news on the 28th regime, right? To make it easier for startups here in the EU.
13:18In the same time, when we have certain digital rules, we want to make Europe faster and easier for
13:25the businesses. And we are doing that. So we are simplifying the processes and rules. We are creating
13:30better single market. We are boosting the capital markets to have also access to finance for the
13:35startups. So we are working on that. And we see that Europe is having everything that is needed
13:40to be competitive.
13:41Okay. Henne Verkunen, Vice President of the European Commission, thank you so much for coming
13:45into us here at Europe Today and being our guest. And thank you so much for tuning in. This does bring
13:50this edition of Europe Today to an end. But tuning in tomorrow, we'll be live from the European Space
13:56Conference with an exclusive interview with the head of the European Space Agency. See you soon on Euronews.
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