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Szef MAE w Davos dla Euronews: „Elektryfikacja wszystkiego to klucz do przyszłości Europy”

Szef IEA powiedział Euronews, że bezpieczeństwo energetyczne Europy i cele klimatyczne zależą od elektryfikacji „wszystkiego”. Od infrastruktury, przez transport, po budynki.

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00:00Zdjęcia i Europea
00:06Wydaje mi się wydać na słońcie, może wlega pytanie.
00:13M. Biroł, chcę zacznę z nimi, proszę, na wyścignie.
00:17Europea jest często critiowała za silnokre, za zapewną z czasem, za pewne decyzje.
00:24Wydaje mi się, jak zauwałaś się Europea'na w strategii z nimi,
00:27energy transition when it
00:29compares with global competitors?
00:33So I will not give
00:35a
00:36broad answer
00:39to your question about
00:40Europe is being criticized as being too slow
00:42because I don't agree.
00:44You don't agree? No, I don't agree.
00:47Today Europe, today Europe's
00:49the share of clean energy
00:51in Europe is 70%
00:52and the global average is 40%.
00:55So if you were too slow in Europe,
00:56it wouldn't be there. This is one part
00:58but in general there is a bit of a Europe bashing
01:00around and I think
01:02one has to look at different parameters
01:04about Europe, of course
01:06is every country, every region
01:08Europe has its own challenges
01:11deficiencies, difficulties
01:12but sometimes it's going too far
01:14I should say, especially when it
01:16comes to clean energy. Europe
01:18has 70% of it is Europe's electricity
01:20comes from
01:21clean power and global average
01:24is 40%.
01:25The problem in Europe is
01:27in my view is
01:29not only the share
01:32of the clean energy
01:33but the price of electricity
01:35The price of electricity is
01:37Europe very high
01:38compared to
01:40I don't know
01:41the competitors
01:42such as
01:43US, such as China
01:45three, four times higher
01:46than those
01:48regions, those countries
01:50and as such
01:51a major challenge for the competitiveness of
01:54Europe industry
01:55and now
01:56what do we have to do
01:57in Europe?
01:58I think we have to see
02:00that when we look at the
02:02security
02:03of energy in Europe
02:05Europe's other
02:07goals
02:10such as reaching
02:11our climate goals
02:13but also
02:14at the same time
02:15being affordable
02:16I see
02:16one future
02:17for Europe
02:18electrify everything
02:19as much as you can
02:21electrify everything
02:22transportation
02:23industry
02:23and so on
02:24and for this
02:26Europe needs
02:26the electricity
02:28master plan
02:29how we are going
02:30to electrify it
02:31and in order to do that
02:32we have to do
02:34two things
02:34in my view
02:35one
02:36grits
02:37grits
02:38grits
02:38grits
02:39there's a big bottleneck
02:40there
02:41we can talk a bit later
02:42and the second
02:43the pricing of electricity
02:45how we are going to
02:47price electricity
02:48so that we can make it
02:49affordable
02:50for
02:51the consumers
02:52for households
02:53industry
02:54so
02:54the way forward
02:57is electrifying
02:58the European economy
02:59as much as we can
03:00and
03:01at the same time
03:02enable to that
03:03we need grits
03:05building of grits
03:06and at the same time
03:08making these prices
03:09affordable
03:09through different
03:10tax policies
03:11and through different
03:12pricing regimes
03:14Minister
03:15what's your take on this
03:16also from national
03:17perspective
03:18how do you see
03:19has Europe
03:20dropped that ball
03:21or
03:22Europe nowadays
03:23is being bashed
03:23as Mr. Birol
03:24said too much
03:25if
03:26we are speaking
03:27about speed
03:28once you need
03:29to use
03:3010
03:3111 years
03:32for a
03:32bureaucratic
03:33approval
03:33for a
03:34hydropower plant
03:35or a
03:35nuclear
03:35power plant
03:36once you
03:37could build
03:37it in 3
03:38and 4
03:38years
03:38definitely
03:39we have
03:40an issue
03:40inside of you
03:41so in that
03:42perspective
03:42I'm pretty sure
03:43that I'm ready
03:44to make that
03:44reshuffle
03:45and to start
03:46with my country
03:46with Romania
03:47to discuss
03:48very clear
03:48about
03:48debureaucratization
03:50and to cut off
03:51all that
03:52stuff
03:53that are
03:53blocking us
03:55to make
03:55more energy
03:56in this moment
03:57doubling
03:58the resource
03:59of energy
04:00now in Europe
04:01and in Romania
04:02is the only
04:03way
04:03to bring
04:04out
04:04and to
04:04bring down
04:05the prices
04:06of the energy
04:07we're paying
04:08in my country
04:09related with
04:10the income
04:11of the people
04:12the highest
04:12price of energy
04:14in entire
04:15European Union
04:15we're in the same
04:16bubble
04:17with
04:17Hungary
04:18with
04:19Bulgaria
04:20and with Greece
04:21and we're
04:21starting
04:22all together
04:23to work
04:23and to have
04:24a strong voice
04:25at the Brussels
04:25level
04:26with Dan Jorgensen
04:26the European
04:27Commissioner
04:27and to start
04:28to make
04:29strong investment
04:30in greed
04:30as Mr. President
04:31Fatih Biroir
04:32said before
04:32because we need
04:33to diversify
04:35our resources
04:35not only
04:36in renewables
04:37I want
04:38and we have
04:39the good alliance
04:39of friends
04:40of nuclear
04:40I want to use
04:42EU resources
04:42to finance nuclear
04:44we have
04:44a huge
04:45history
04:46of nuclear
04:4725
04:4820 to 25%
04:49of my
04:50country production
04:51are getting
04:51from the nuclear
04:52to get to
04:53hydropower plants
04:54that's one of the best
04:55ways
04:55to bring cheap
04:57and baseline
04:59energy
05:00and in that
05:01perspective
05:02I just want
05:03to look at
05:03Romania
05:04as a country
05:05which starts
05:06to make
05:07that shift
05:07based on data
05:08not on ideology
05:10and making
05:12Romania
05:12a country
05:13which are not
05:14depending
05:14by the imports
05:14a country
05:15which have
05:16as much
05:17energy
05:17to use
05:18and to bring
05:19to our neighbors
05:20we have
05:21a strong
05:22Romania
05:23a strong
05:23Bulgaria
05:24a strong Greece
05:24a strong Hungary
05:26and so on
05:27will bring
05:27a strong
05:28European Union
05:29otherwise
05:30if you're stuck
05:30in some ideas
05:32that everyone
05:32should put
05:33only wind
05:34or only
05:34solar panels
05:36definitely
05:36have an issue
05:37that's one of the
05:38major aspects
05:39when we talk
05:40about
05:40the strategic autonomy
05:42that the European Union
05:43is envisioning
05:45when it comes
05:46to the energy sector
05:47in my perspective
05:49when I speak
05:49about energy
05:50it's not about
05:50molecules
05:51or physics
05:52it's about
05:53freedom
05:54of people
05:56it's about
05:57democracy
05:57and for example
05:58we have that
05:59Russian
05:59blackmail
06:01Moldova
06:02Ukraine
06:03starting with
06:032020
06:042021
06:04the entire
06:05Europe
06:06and in this
06:07moment
06:07daily
06:09I receive
06:09requests from
06:10Moldova
06:10and from Ukraine
06:11to help them
06:12and to support
06:13them
06:13to don't bring
06:14in a blackout
06:15in Ukraine
06:15so we are
06:16making that
06:17and we are
06:18making that
06:18and we are
06:18a security
06:19provider
06:19for the region
06:20but to
06:21have that
06:22role
06:23more
06:23we should
06:24bring out
06:24all that
06:25bureaucratic
06:26procedures
06:27to keep it
06:28what we should
06:28keep
06:28but we need
06:30speed
06:30Ms. Borg
06:31what's your
06:32take on this
06:32especially when
06:33Fatibiro
06:35and Minister
06:36just mentioned
06:37the speed
06:38that is needed
06:39and is not
06:40there
06:40you have a
06:41different
06:42perspective
06:42of that
06:42right
06:43what's
06:44your take
06:44I think
06:46that
06:46although
06:47the
06:47topic
06:48for
06:48this
06:48conversation
06:49is
06:49if
06:50Europe
06:51can
06:51compete
06:52with
06:52clean
06:53power
06:53I think
06:54that
06:54the
06:54question
06:55is
06:55rather
06:56the
06:56opposite
06:56if
06:57we
06:57can
06:57compete
06:57in
06:58an
06:58economy
06:58that
06:59is
06:59based
06:59on
06:59fossil
07:00fuels
07:00exactly
07:01due
07:01to
07:02what
07:02Fatib
07:02said
07:03that
07:03fossil fuels
07:05are
07:05much
07:06more
07:06expensive
07:06in
07:07Europe
07:07than
07:07they
07:07are
07:07in
07:08the
07:08US
07:08and
07:08China
07:09because
07:09there
07:10is
07:10simply
07:10much
07:10more
07:11domestic
07:11production
07:12in
07:12US
07:12and
07:13China
07:13so
07:13we
07:14are
07:14still
07:14importing
07:1590%
07:16of
07:16the
07:16fossil
07:16fuels
07:17we
07:17are
07:17consuming
07:18in
07:18Europe
07:19and
07:19we're
07:20doing
07:20that
07:20at
07:21a value
07:21of
07:21400
07:22billion
07:22euros
07:23every
07:23year
07:24so
07:24I
07:25think
07:25that
07:25you
07:25know
07:25it's
07:26very
07:26difficult
07:26to be
07:27competitive
07:27on
07:28those
07:28premises
07:29and
07:30at the
07:30same
07:30time
07:31I'm
07:31very
07:31hopeful
07:31because
07:32I
07:32think
07:32we
07:32are
07:32moving
07:33in
07:33a
07:33quite
07:33high
07:34pace
07:34and
07:34Fatib
07:35gave
07:35some
07:35good
07:35examples
07:36of
07:36how
07:36fast
07:37this
07:37transition
07:38is
07:38happening
07:38and
07:38that
07:39is
07:39only
07:39over
07:39the
07:39last
07:4020
07:40years
07:41and
07:41we
07:41are
07:41actually
07:41living
07:42in
07:43the
07:43middle
07:43of
07:43that
07:44transition
07:44and
07:45we
07:46have
07:46been
07:46reshaping
07:47our
07:48business
07:48but
07:48also
07:49the
07:49markets
07:49that
07:50we
07:50are
07:50active
07:50in
07:51and
07:51also
07:52that
07:52reshaping
07:53in
07:53Europe
07:54has
07:54been
07:54so
07:55far
07:56a lot
07:56around
07:57offshore
07:58wind
07:58onshore
07:59wind
07:59a bit
07:59of solar
08:00as well
08:01etc
08:01I
08:02think
08:02that
08:02we
08:02really
08:03need
08:03to
08:03leverage
08:04the
08:04strengths
08:04we
08:05have
08:05in
08:05order
08:05to
08:06do
08:06this
08:06much
08:07faster
08:07and
08:08that's
08:09also
08:09when
08:09the
08:09benefits
08:10come
08:10because
08:11we
08:11have
08:11seen
08:12the
08:12sort
08:12of
08:12rapid
08:13scaling
08:13of
08:13some
08:14of
08:14these
08:14technologies
08:15and
08:15if
08:15you
08:15take
08:16offshore
08:16wind
08:16for
08:16example
08:17just
08:17in
08:17the
08:17last
08:1810
08:18years
08:18we
08:18have
08:18seen
08:19the
08:19cost
08:19go
08:19down
08:19with
08:2025%
08:20and
08:21the
08:21output
08:22has
08:22been
08:22three
08:23folded
08:23compared
08:24to
08:24what
08:24it
08:24was
08:24before
08:25now
08:26we
08:26need
08:26to
08:26add
08:27also
08:27other
08:27technologies
08:28like
08:29nuclear
08:29so
08:30even
08:30though
08:30we
08:30are
08:31one
08:31of
08:31the
08:31sort
08:32of
08:32largest
08:33providers
08:34of
08:35offshore
08:35wind
08:35in
08:36Europe
08:36and
08:36building
08:36quite
08:37a lot
08:37of
08:37it
08:37we
08:38are
08:38also
08:38building
08:39new
08:39nuclear
08:39we
08:40are
08:40operating
08:41existing
08:41nuclear
08:42plants
08:42today
08:43but
08:43we
08:43are
08:44also
08:44now
08:44into
08:45a
08:45project
08:45where
08:46we
08:46will
08:46build
08:46new
08:47nuclear
08:47in
08:48the
08:48shape
08:49and
08:49form
08:49of
08:49small
08:50modular
08:50reactors
08:51which
08:51are
08:51not
08:51so
08:51small
08:52by
08:52the
08:52way
08:52they
08:52are
08:52either
08:53300
08:53megawatts
08:54each
08:59it's
08:59only
08:59by
09:00volume
09:00and
09:00scale
09:01that
09:01we
09:01can
09:01get
09:02the
09:02same
09:02kind
09:03of
09:03cost
09:03curve
09:03in
09:04that
09:04development
09:04so
09:05we
09:05will
09:05need
09:06all
09:06the
09:06fossil
09:06free
09:07technologies
09:07that
09:08we
09:08can
09:08get
09:08our
09:08hands
09:09on
09:09but
09:09it
09:10is
09:10important
09:10to
09:11understand
09:11that
09:11European
09:12economy
09:12can
09:12in
09:13the
09:13long
09:13run
09:13only
09:13be
09:14competitive
09:14if
09:15we
09:15phase
09:15out
09:16the
09:16fossil
09:16fuels
09:17and
09:18I
09:18think
09:18that
09:18we
09:19actually
09:19have
09:19really
09:20good
09:20prerequisites
09:21to
09:21do
09:21that
09:22from
09:29in
09:29the
09:29end
09:30and
09:30I
09:31think
09:31we
09:31have
09:31some
09:31leading
09:32industrial
09:33players
09:33in
09:34clean
09:34tech
09:35in
09:35Europe
09:35that
09:36we
09:36can
09:36scale
09:37in
09:37order
09:37to
09:37make
09:38the
09:38demand
09:38there
09:39because
09:39we
09:40will
09:40never
09:40be
09:40able
09:40to
09:41subsidize
09:42all
09:42of
09:42this
09:42power
09:43into
09:43the
09:43market
09:43we
09:44need
09:44to
09:44have
09:45sound
09:45businesses
09:45that
09:46can
09:47use
09:47and
09:48want
09:48to
09:48use
09:48this
09:49energy
09:49in
09:49order
09:49to
09:50build
09:50their
09:50value
09:50chains
09:51and
09:51that
09:52can
09:52be
09:52in
09:52steel
09:53in
09:54cement
09:54in
09:55car
09:56manufacturing
09:56in
09:57heavy
09:57transportation
09:58or
09:59in
09:59other
09:59industrial
10:00areas
10:00where
10:01we
10:01actually
10:01have
10:01a lot
10:02of
10:02lighthouse
10:02projects
10:03already
10:03today
10:04and
10:04I
10:05think
10:05to
10:05do
10:05that
10:05and
10:05scale
10:06fast
10:06enough
10:07then
10:07back
10:07to
10:07your
10:08origin
10:09of
10:09the
10:10question
10:10and
10:10the
10:10scaling
10:11I
10:11think
10:12that
10:12we
10:13need
10:13to
10:13steer
10:15away
10:15from
10:16this
10:17brown
10:17bubble
10:17and
10:17make
10:18sure
10:18that
10:18we
10:18can
10:19lead
10:19rather
10:20than
10:20lag
10:21and
10:21three
10:21things
10:21are
10:21needed
10:22to
10:22do
10:22that
10:22we
10:23need
10:24stable
10:25and
10:25credible
10:25policy
10:26frameworks
10:27because
10:28that
10:28will
10:29reduce
10:30the
10:30risks
10:30for
10:30all
10:31of
10:31us
10:31investing
10:31in
10:32this
10:32business
10:32and
10:33it
10:33will
10:34unlock
10:34capital
10:35that
10:35they're
10:35willing
10:36to
10:36go
10:36in
10:36here
10:36and
10:37I
10:37know
10:37that
10:37because
10:37we
10:37speak
10:38to
10:38the
10:38capital
10:39market
10:39basically
10:40every
10:41week
10:41and
10:42we
10:42know
10:42what
10:43it
10:43takes
10:43in
10:43order
10:43for
10:43them
10:44to
10:44invest
10:44in
10:44our
10:44projects
10:45secondly
10:46we
10:47need
10:47to
10:47remember
10:48that
10:48we
10:49are
10:49not
10:49just
10:49building
10:50assets
10:50we
10:51are
10:51building
10:51systems
10:52so
10:53we
10:53need
10:53to
10:53make
10:53sure
10:54we
10:54don't
10:54put
10:54all
10:54our
10:55efforts
10:55into
10:55one
10:56part
10:56of
10:56the
10:56system
10:57only
10:58to
10:58the
10:58clean
10:58industries
10:59or
10:59only
10:59into
11:00electricity
11:00generation
11:01or
11:01only
11:01into
11:02grids
11:02but I
11:02agree
11:03that
11:03grids
11:03goes
11:03first
11:04right
11:04now
11:04so
11:05so
11:05we
11:05need
11:06to
11:06make
11:07sure
11:07we
11:07have
11:07a
11:07system
11:07perspective
11:08and
11:09lastly
11:09we
11:09need
11:09to
11:10safeguard
11:10efficient
11:11markets
11:12because
11:13only
11:13that
11:13will
11:14provide
11:14sound
11:15business
11:15models
11:15cross
11:16value
11:16chains
11:17in the
11:17end
11:17and
11:18that's
11:18how
11:18you
11:18build
11:19prosperous
11:19competitive
11:20businesses
11:21going
11:21forward
11:22so I
11:22think
11:22we
11:23have
11:23all
11:23the
11:23prerequisites
11:24to do
11:24that
11:24but we
11:25need
11:25to
11:25do
11:25it
11:26Mr.
11:27Samler
11:27on
11:27this
11:27opening
11:28point
11:28I
11:28want
11:28to
11:29hear
11:29your
11:29view
11:30regarding
11:31the
11:34comes
11:34to
11:35Europe's
11:35competitiveness
11:36and
11:36whether
11:36Europe
11:37is
11:37lagging
11:37too
11:38much
11:38whether
11:39it
11:39dropped
11:39too
11:40much
11:40the
11:40ball
11:40or
11:41is
11:41there
11:41still
11:41room
11:42to
11:42pick
11:42it
11:42up
11:43but
11:43he
11:43mentioned
11:44about
11:44the
11:45prices
11:45about
11:45affordable
11:46prices
11:47but
11:47supply
11:48security
11:48and
11:49also
11:49the
11:49green
11:50energy
11:50so
11:50called
11:51has
11:51also
11:51cost
11:52I
11:52think
11:52high
11:53prices
11:53are
11:54manageable
11:54we
11:55can
11:55manage
11:55the
11:56high
11:56prices
11:56as
11:57long
11:57as
11:58they
11:58are
11:58predictable
11:59because
11:59what
11:59we
12:00don't
12:00like
12:00the
12:02volatility
12:02of
12:02the
12:03prices
12:03when
12:03I
12:04say
12:04we
12:04we
12:05as
12:05the
12:05power
12:06generators
12:06and
12:07we
12:07as
12:07the
12:07industry
12:08because
12:09both
12:10sides
12:10have to
12:11give
12:11their
12:11decisions
12:11with
12:12predictable
12:12numbers
12:13which
12:13means
12:14I
12:14think
12:15there
12:15is
12:15enough
12:15capacity
12:16in
12:16Turkey
12:16as
12:16well
12:17as
12:17in
12:17Europe
12:17for
12:18more
12:18capacity
12:19but
12:19what
12:19we
12:20need
12:20is
12:21an
12:21energy
12:22system
12:22with
12:23much
12:23more
12:23digitalized
12:24much
12:24more
12:25smart
12:26solutions
12:27such as
12:27storages
12:28smart
12:28grids
12:29demand
12:29site
12:30management
12:30this
12:31is
12:31what
12:31we
12:31need
12:31we
12:32have
12:32to
12:32manage
12:32the
12:32system
12:33not
12:33only
12:34by
12:34investing
12:34additional
12:35capacity
12:35yes
12:36we
12:36have
12:37to
12:37be
12:37fast
12:38Turkey
12:39as
12:40well
12:40as
12:40entire
12:41Europe
12:41I
12:42see
12:42also
12:42culturally
12:43difference
12:43also
12:43between
12:44Europe
12:44and
12:45Turkey
12:45as
12:46I
12:46feel
12:46we
12:47are
12:47more
12:47on
12:47the
12:47pragmatic
12:48side
12:48more
12:48agile
12:49side
12:49but
12:50the
12:51scale
12:52is
12:52important
12:52Europe
12:53can
12:53also
12:53bring
12:53the
12:54scale
12:54investment
12:56is
12:56a must
12:57on
12:58the
12:58grid
12:58on
12:59transmission
12:59but
13:00we
13:00have
13:00to
13:01also
13:01think
13:02about
13:02efficiency
13:03through
13:04digitalization
13:04it's
13:05like
13:06managing
13:06the
13:06traffic
13:07not
13:07only
13:08with
13:08additional
13:09roads
13:09it's
13:10managing
13:11the
13:11traffic
13:11solving
13:12the
13:12traffic
13:12problems
13:13with
13:14navigation
13:14systems
13:15you've
13:16mentioned
13:17permission
13:17processes
13:18and this
13:18would
13:18take
13:19us
13:19to
13:19the
13:20issue
13:20and
13:20the
13:21aspect
13:21of
13:21regulations
13:22right
13:22which
13:22is
13:22one
13:23of
13:23the
13:23most
13:23important
13:24can I
13:25ask
13:25you
13:25to
13:25list
13:26what
13:26are
13:27some
13:27of
13:27the
13:27key
13:27regulations
13:28that
13:28you
13:29would
13:29name
13:31as
13:31those
13:31that
13:31are
13:31needed
13:32to
13:32reduce
13:33the
13:33costs
13:33and
13:33scale
13:34clean
13:34power
13:34minister
13:35for
13:36example
13:37ETS2
13:37for
13:37gas
13:38we
13:38find
13:39a way
13:39together
13:39with
13:40a few
13:40member
13:40states
13:41friends
13:41which
13:42are
13:42using
13:42gas
13:42to
13:43bring
13:44a
13:44three
13:44years
13:44delay
13:45for
13:45example
13:46for
13:46entire
13:46market
13:47in
13:47my
13:47country
13:47bring
13:47around
13:4825%
13:49highest
13:50price
13:50of
13:50the
13:51of
13:51the
13:51gas
13:51so
13:52that
13:52is
13:52unaffordable
13:53for
13:53industry
13:54and
13:55that
13:55should
13:55be
13:55started
13:562026
13:57and
13:57I
13:57think
13:58that
13:58discussion
13:59should
13:59be
14:00put
14:00it
14:01in
14:01a
14:01very
14:01pragmatic
14:01way
14:02about
14:02our
14:02future
14:03of
14:03the
14:03industry
14:03in
14:04Europe
14:04and
14:05I
14:05think
14:05that
14:05is
14:05the
14:05best
14:06example
14:06for
14:07transition
14:08fuels
14:08like
14:09was
14:09coal
14:09before
14:10now
14:10we
14:10have
14:10a
14:11penalty
14:11which
14:12are
14:12doubling
14:12the
14:12price
14:13for
14:13energy
14:13made
14:14from
14:14coal
14:15in
14:16my
14:16country
14:16so
14:17in
14:18this
14:18moment
14:18I
14:19think
14:19that
14:19it
14:20should
14:20be
14:20very
14:20clear
14:20about
14:21gas
14:21to
14:22keep
14:22the
14:22same
14:23clear
14:23regulation
14:24and
14:24to
14:25keep
14:25it
14:25in
14:25the
14:25way
14:26that
14:26was
14:26before
14:26and
14:27to
14:27take
14:27a
14:27delay
14:27until
14:27we
14:28take
14:28some
14:28oxygen
14:29to
14:29feed
14:30our
14:30power
14:31plants
14:31gas
14:31to
14:32power
14:32plants
14:33and to
14:33feed
14:33our
14:33industry
14:34and
14:34that's
14:34very
14:34clear
14:35what do
14:36you
14:36think
14:36regarding
14:36the
14:36regulations
14:37that I
14:37needed
14:38would
14:38you
14:38name
14:38as
14:39the
14:39key
14:39ones
14:40you
14:41know
14:42regulation
14:42is
14:42important
14:43in order
14:43to
14:44speed
14:44up
14:44and
14:44I
14:44think
14:45there
14:45are
14:45things
14:45to
14:45be
14:46done
14:46for
14:46example
14:46make
14:47sure
14:47that
14:47the
14:47same
14:48things
14:48are
14:48not
14:48tested
14:49in
14:50several
14:50regulations
14:51we
14:52end
14:52up
14:52with
14:52that
14:52sometimes
14:53when
14:53we
14:53want
14:53to
14:53build
14:54something
14:54that
14:54first
14:54you
14:55have
14:55to
14:55get
14:55an
14:55approval
14:55according
14:56to
14:56one
14:56regulation
14:57and
14:57then
14:57to
14:58another
14:58and
14:58they
14:58are
14:58overlapping
14:59and
14:59looking
14:59at
15:00the
15:00same
15:00things
15:00but
15:00you
15:01can
15:01get
15:01different
15:01results
15:02and
15:02it
15:03also
15:03takes
15:03a
15:03long
15:03time
15:04because
15:04it's
15:04not
15:05a
15:05clear
15:05set
15:06of
15:06priorities
15:07of
15:07what
15:08actually
15:08needs
15:09to
15:09happen
15:09from
15:09a
15:10more
15:10holistic
15:11perspective
15:12for
15:12example
15:12when
15:12it
15:12comes
15:13to
15:13energy
15:13infrastructure
15:14related
15:14to
15:15security
15:16or
15:16other
15:17things
15:17but
15:18I
15:18also
15:18think
15:19it's
15:19important
15:19to
15:20say
15:20it's
15:20not
15:20just
15:20individual
15:21regulations
15:22the most
15:23important
15:23thing
15:24is
15:24probably
15:24stable
15:26regulatory
15:26and
15:27policy
15:27frameworks
15:28that
15:28are
15:28long
15:29term
15:29because
15:29these
15:30investments
15:30are
15:31made
15:31in order
15:31to be
15:32there
15:32for
15:32many
15:32decades
15:33and
15:34the
15:34best
15:34thing
15:35that
15:35we
15:35can
15:35do
15:35from
15:36a
15:36European
15:36perspective
15:37is
15:37to
15:37keep
15:37an
15:38alignment
15:38between
15:38the
15:39countries
15:39so
15:39that
15:39the
15:40policy
15:40is
15:41not
15:41differing
15:42too
15:42much
15:42between
15:42countries
15:43because
15:43you
15:43need
15:43to
15:43be
15:44able
15:44to
15:44act
15:44on
15:44a
15:44large
15:45market
15:45to
15:46unlock
15:46the
15:47economics
15:47of
15:48this
15:48and
15:48then
15:49be
15:49really
15:49clear
15:50on
15:50what
15:50the
15:50targets
15:50are
15:51until
15:51for
15:51example
15:522040
15:53and
15:53make
15:53sure
15:53we
15:53follow
15:54that
15:54trajectory
15:55because
15:55the
15:56risk
15:56right
15:56now
15:56discussing
15:57back
15:57and
15:58forth
15:58what
15:58it's
15:58going
15:58to
15:58be
15:59or
15:59not
15:59and
15:59are
16:00we
16:00sticking
16:00to
16:00it
16:01or
16:01not
16:02that
16:02creates
16:02uncertainty
16:03uncertainty
16:04is risk
16:05in the
16:05investment
16:05market
16:06and then
16:06you
16:07know
16:07investors
16:07will
16:07hesitate
16:08so
16:09I
16:09would
16:09say
16:09that
16:09clear
16:10policy
16:10frameworks
16:11that
16:11are
16:11long
16:11term
16:12is
16:12probably
16:12the
16:12most
16:13important
16:13thing
16:13and
16:14then
16:14we
16:14need
16:14all
16:15the
16:15sort
16:15of
16:15lightening
16:16of
16:16the
16:16speed
16:17in
16:17the
16:17regulation
16:18as
16:18well
16:18would
16:19you
16:19add
16:20to
16:20that
16:20because
16:20I
16:20saw
16:20you
16:21were
16:21agreeing
16:21with
16:21no
16:22I
16:22was
16:23smiling
16:23because
16:23I
16:24have
16:25a
16:25European
16:25partner
16:26operating
16:27in
16:27Turkey
16:27but
16:28apart
16:29from
16:29this
16:29we
16:29invest
16:29also
16:30in
16:30the
16:30United
16:30States
16:31in
16:31renewable
16:31and
16:32I
16:32have
16:33experienced
16:34all
16:34the
16:34permission
16:35processes
16:35Europe
16:38has
16:39the
16:39longest
16:39permission
16:40or
16:40process
16:41time
16:41from
16:42zero
16:42to
16:43build
16:43a
16:43new
16:43renewable
16:44plan
16:45in
16:45terms
16:46of
16:46permissions
16:47all
16:48the
16:48process
16:49we
16:50are
16:50trying
16:50to
16:50make
16:50it
16:50faster
16:51but
16:51we
16:51are
16:51still
16:51faster
16:52in
16:52Turkey
16:52than
16:53Europe
16:53but
16:54in
16:54USA
16:55I
16:56have
16:56an
16:56experience
16:56in
16:58one
16:59half
16:59year
16:59because
17:00the
17:00system
17:00the
17:01regulation
17:01is
17:02more
17:02on
17:02awarding
17:03I
17:04mean
17:04when we
17:04think
17:04about
17:05carrot
17:05and
17:06stick
17:06I
17:07see
17:07more
17:08motivation
17:09in
17:10US
17:10to
17:10speed
17:10up
17:11compared
17:12to
17:12Europe
17:12this
17:13was
17:13my
17:13experience
17:14that's
17:14why
17:14I
17:14smiled
17:14actually
17:15Mr.
17:16Birol
17:16what do
17:16you think
17:16on that
17:17with the
17:17regulation
17:17aspect
17:18we
17:19definitely
17:19need to
17:20in
17:20Europe
17:21simplify
17:22the
17:22process
17:22simplification
17:24of
17:24I
17:25cannot
17:26argue
17:27that we
17:27should
17:28completely
17:28abolish
17:28the
17:29regulation
17:29we
17:30should
17:30make
17:31it
17:31simpler
17:31and
17:32faster
17:32both
17:33licensing
17:35and
17:36permitting
17:36but
17:37I
17:37also
17:37want
17:37to
17:37say
17:38one
17:38more
17:38thing
17:38we
17:39say
17:39clean
17:40energy
17:40and
17:40I
17:40think
17:41we
17:41should
17:41agree
17:42that
17:42clean
17:42energy
17:42includes
17:43renewables
17:44but
17:44also
17:45nuclear
17:45power
17:46clean
17:46energy
17:47is
17:48also
17:48for
17:49Europe
17:49secure
17:50energy
17:50it
17:51is
17:51for
17:51electricity
17:52security
17:52because
17:54they
17:54are
17:55renewable
17:55energy
17:56is
17:57home
17:57growing
17:57you
17:58don't
17:59if
18:00I
18:00put
18:01a
18:01solar
18:03panel
18:03on
18:04the
18:04roof
18:04of
18:04my
18:05apartment
18:08my
18:09house
18:09my
18:10neighbor
18:10can
18:11do
18:11it
18:11as
18:11well
18:11I
18:11am
18:11stealing
18:12from
18:12him
18:13or
18:13her
18:13so
18:13this
18:14is
18:14a
18:14home
18:15growing
18:15and
18:16therefore
18:17for
18:18when
18:19we
18:19talk
18:19about
18:19the
18:19energy
18:20security
18:20I
18:22think
18:22one
18:22of
18:22the
18:22solutions
18:23to
18:23energy
18:23security
18:24is
18:24renewable
18:24energy
18:25together
18:26with
18:26nuclear
18:27energy
18:27this
18:27is
18:27one
18:28issue
18:28the
18:29second
18:29why
18:29I'm
18:30insisting
18:30on
18:31the
18:31grids
18:31is
18:33the
18:33following
18:33I
18:33want
18:33to
18:34give
18:34one
18:34number
18:34which
18:35is
18:35in
18:35my
18:35view
18:35very
18:36shocking
18:36at least
18:36for
18:37me
18:37last
18:38year
18:38in
18:38Europe
18:39we
18:40have
18:40installed
18:42it
18:42was
18:42a
18:43record
18:4380
18:45gigawatts
18:45of
18:46renewable
18:47capacity
18:47this
18:48is
18:48good
18:48news
18:48but
18:49you
18:50know
18:50what
18:50is
18:50the
18:50worst
18:50news
18:51more
18:52than
18:53400
18:53gigawatts
18:54of
18:54renewable
18:55capacity
18:55was
18:56ready
18:56but
18:57as
18:57there
18:57was
18:57no
18:58grid
18:58we
18:59couldn't
18:59connect
18:59to
18:59the
18:59grid
19:00and
19:00it
19:00didn't
19:00go
19:00to
19:01the
19:01households
19:01or
19:02the
19:03factories
19:04this
19:04is
19:04completely
19:04crazy
19:05this
19:05is
19:06economically
19:07it
19:07doesn't
19:08make
19:08sense
19:08at
19:09all
19:09because
19:09it's
19:10like
19:10the
19:11roads
19:15and
19:15streets
19:16it's
19:16like
19:16you
19:17build
19:17the
19:18nicest
19:18car
19:19very
19:20fast
19:20very
19:21nice
19:21looking
19:22very
19:22efficient
19:22and
19:23everything
19:23but
19:23you
19:24forget
19:24to
19:24build
19:24roads
19:25for
19:25that
19:25so
19:26we
19:26built
19:26the
19:26power
19:27plants
19:27but
19:27we
19:27don't
19:28have
19:28transmission
19:28and
19:29lines
19:29and
19:30Greece
19:30this
19:30is
19:30the
19:31biggest
19:31problem
19:31today
19:32in
19:32Europe
19:33and
19:33of
19:34course
19:34building
19:35these
19:35grids
19:35there is
19:36the commission
19:37has a new
19:38grids package
19:39I hope it
19:39will see
19:40the light
19:40of today
19:41and this
19:42will
19:42deblock
19:44many of
19:45the problems
19:46that we
19:47are facing
19:47it is
19:48main
19:48in my
19:49view
19:49main
19:50barrier
19:51in front
19:51of the
19:51electrification
19:52of
19:52European
19:52economy
19:53thank you
19:54very much
19:54for this
19:54thank you
19:55Muzyka
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