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رهبران منطقه می‌گویند: صلح میان ارمنستان و آذربایجان اوراسیا را تغییر می‌دهد
روسای جمهور ارمنستان و آذربایجان برای نخستین بار پس از امضای توافق تاریخی صلح دیدار کردند. ذی‌نفعان منطقه‌ای نقش صلح در آینده منطقه را جشن گرفتند.
لب بیشتر : http://parsi.euronews.com/2026/01/21/peace-between-armenia-and-azerbaijan-is-changing-eurasia-regional-leaders-say
مشترک شوید: یورونیوز به یازده زبان دیگر در دسترس شماست
روسای جمهور ارمنستان و آذربایجان برای نخستین بار پس از امضای توافق تاریخی صلح دیدار کردند. ذی‌نفعان منطقه‌ای نقش صلح در آینده منطقه را جشن گرفتند.
لب بیشتر : http://parsi.euronews.com/2026/01/21/peace-between-armenia-and-azerbaijan-is-changing-eurasia-regional-leaders-say
مشترک شوید: یورونیوز به یازده زبان دیگر در دسترس شماست
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00:00my name is Sasha Vakulina I'm Euronews EU correspondent it's my great honor to be
00:13moderating this session at WEF today and to be with you I'm gonna be starting slowly and
00:18I'm gonna just go into the beginning of this session if I may to open it and you know to
00:25get into it Azerbaijan and Armenia worked out a historic peace deal after decades of tragedies
00:32changing the course in the future for the two countries but also for the whole region just as
00:38we now witness the fast changing global order given how much effort it has taken to close the
00:44painful chapter I would like to ask President Ali and President Hachituran how do you look in the
00:51future now what does the future hold now both of you being here together at this session is already
00:57a great message in itself yes you're absolutely right it was a historical achievement last August
01:05when two countries initialed peace agreement thus putting end to three decades plus of war
01:14and bloodshed the uniqueness of this peace deal is that it was signed less than in two years
01:25after the last bloody clash so it demonstrates that if you have a strong political will from both sides
01:32and commitment to peace then you can reconcile in a relatively short period of time what has been signed
01:41and today is transforming into the practical results not only we live in peace for five six months only
01:52and we enjoy the situation neither Armenia nor Azerbaijan as independent countries ever lived in peace when we became
02:03independent in 1991 we were already at military standoff but today the benefits of peace are reflected into
02:14beginning of cooperation first cargo from Azerbaijan of critical products oil products are being transported to Armenia
02:25and in itself it brings the prices down so it was absolutely unimaginable maybe two or three years before but today it is a reality
02:37and I think nothing can interfere into this process what we need to do more I think both sides
02:48is to demonstrate the results of living in peace so that we can also witness the full support
02:58of our societies to this process I am very optimistic because really what has been achieved
03:05is a tremendous benefit to Armenia to Azerbaijan to Southern Caucasus
03:12and it sets an example of how the countries which were in very deep hostile terms now transform into
03:23phase of cooperation we restored justice international law our sovereignty territorial integrity and then we achieved peace
03:33and then we stopped and for the leader of the country which suffered for 30 years to stop at the right time
03:42is a very responsible and very important decision we could have continued I want to be very open with you and with the audience
03:51but that would lead to endless wars that would lead to more sufferings more victims then war would never end and someone should have stopped it
04:01and we decided to stop it and yes it was a joint decision by Armenian and Azerbaijan leadership to close that chapter and to see the opportunities for peace
04:16the same question to you please how do you see it what how do you look in the future now with this whole new era opening what does the future hold for Armenia
04:26two years ago two years ago one year ago it was unbelievable that we could achieve such a situation
04:33whereas now we and the Republic of Armenia is able to receive cargo from Azerbaijan via the territory of Georgia
04:41I'm sure we'll be able one day to receive this cargo directly through our own territories
04:48Baku Azerbaijan Armenia Armenia directly we can have transportation I am sure and we'll be able to overcome the problems that were created in the 90s
05:00but what is very important is that we are both looking forward if we try to look backwards if we try to look for reasons what happened and why it happened
05:13that will deprive us of the opportunity that we have received the willingness and readiness from the government of Azerbaijan
05:21of Azerbaijan Mr. Aliyev we appreciate it we can see it it was today or yesterday that Mr. Aliyev mentioned that we need to learn to live in peace
05:33I can reassure you it's not a new it's not a usual situation for us before signing the documents we would wake up and try to find out what's happening on the border
05:46And it's not a new it's not a new deal but we have no礼 you it's not a new to the border
05:51Now, let us be reassured, we are forgetting a new document we are forgetting this now we are more living in time so we need to implement projects
05:59and we will succeed we will succeed because our agreements are very concrete the principles are very concrete we do respect each other's
06:10territorial integrity, sovereignty, and the jurisdiction will be guided by those principles,
06:17will open borders.
06:19And I'm sure that after some years, not only at the highest political level we'll have
06:23such meetings, but also it will become business as usual when our citizens from Armenia and
06:29Azerbaijan will cross the border, will do business with each other, will make use of
06:34the benefits of each other.
06:35And therefore, as a result of this cooperation, will become a very conducive region as the
06:42South Caucasus for the entire world.
06:45The discussions that we are now having about connectivity between Europe and Asia, the best
06:50way to do this is South Caucasus.
06:53This process will succeed because there is an economic interest as well, not only political.
06:59Political is very important, but also economic.
07:02And this will enhance and strengthen the agreements that we have achieved on.
07:08And I do want to thank the leadership of Azerbaijan, Mr. Aliyev.
07:13I do have the right also to say thank you to our Prime Minister as well.
07:17President Vucic, I would like to ask you, how do you see the role of Serbia as somehow this
07:22important bridge for Eurasia, bridge between Europe and Asia, when it comes to redefining and
07:32defining this economic identity for the region?
07:35I believe that the role of our countries will become even, we all know that we belong to small
07:45countries, relatively small nations, speaking about size and numbers, not about our pride and
07:53dignity.
07:53But I believe that we'll have bigger importance in the future, and I'll tell you why.
08:02From Armenia, let's say 3 million, 7 million, Serbia, 10 million, Azerbaijan.
08:08We'll have to get along with each other, we'll have to cooperate, we'll have to do things
08:13together, because in today's world, where we are facing no rules, no regulations, where big
08:23fish eat smaller fishes, and they're saying it, they're not even wrapping it in anything,
08:31they just do it, and they're saying, doing it bluntly, and not observing and not in accordance
08:41with UN resolutions, we'll have to take care of ourselves, and now you have two different
08:50schools, one is either to belong to those big, newly defined empires in different hemispheres,
09:02either to still protect your sovereignty and independence.
09:06And knowing Azerbaijanis people, Armenian people, and Serbian people, I know that we'll pick
09:14the option number two, which means that we'll protect our countries, our nations, our sovereignty
09:20and our independence.
09:22Wanting, of course, to cooperate with everybody, but at the end, we'll have to keep our national
09:31interests, and to, and our statecraft as well.
09:36Ebreus Demir, we touched, the president's touched upon a little bit, the investment side
09:40and the business side of it, and it would be great to hear, please, from your take, what's your
09:46view regarding the policies, and probably the strategies needed to strengthen Eurasian's
09:52competitiveness, as well as, ultimately, also the integration in the global picture, in the global trade.
09:58The investments can only start when there's peace and long-term stability.
10:03I mean, if there's no stability, nobody wants to invest.
10:06So, hearing the leaders here, and I'm very happy to be among these very strong leaders,
10:11that the peace and prosperity are going to be long-term, it means investors can come.
10:16And I've seen the trip agreement, it's very well defined, and it's the first start of, I think,
10:24the major investments can start from that agreement.
10:28Because currently, there is CARSTEP VC project already, the BACU project, and I think with
10:34the middle corridor, then we can add more to this.
10:37So, what I'm saying is, the infrastructure is not only the roads, it's not only the railroads,
10:44it's the digital infrastructure, it's the energy infrastructure, as well.
10:48And also, it brings out many more infrastructures.
10:50I mean, the dry ports, the logistical hubs, and the people.
10:54I mean, people start to come and live around it.
10:57If I may intervene, regarding some good words, said by Madame Özdemir, if I pronounce that well.
11:05Perfect.
11:08We are speaking about peace, stability, tranquility.
11:13There has never been less peace, stability, and tranquility in the world.
11:17Last year was the worst year after the Second World War, with number of wars that were launched
11:23by different countries, or within the countries.
11:27And this year is going to be worse than last year.
11:30And next year is going to be worse than this year.
11:34And everybody is speaking about peace, accusing someone else for not observing something,
11:43not paying respect to someone, but at the end, everybody is taking care of its own national interests.
11:50Nobody cares about multilateralism, and this is the biggest mistake that all of us made in the past.
11:58And now, no one can correct it.
12:01There are people that might say, even in our countries, in Yerevan, Baku, Belgrade,
12:07they might say, okay, it's somewhere away from us, but there is a spillover effect,
12:13and we are all going to face the consequences.
12:15And that's why I was speaking about creating better bonds between us,
12:20in order to make these shocks relatively smaller to our economies and to our politics as well.
12:27And I'm not optimistic at all the world of, we have just entered the world of volatility and uncertainty,
12:35and not sure that we'll be able to overcome it in the years to come.
12:39President Chaturand, what's your take on this when it comes to this new approach?
12:43I'm one of the politicians who has always spoken about peace.
12:49In my political activities, I've always tried to be useful for peace,
12:55because I understand one thing clearly.
12:57If you have neighbors, only live in peace with your neighbors, including in your daily life.
13:04There is no other way.
13:07Other way means arguing, fighting, disputes, loss of time.
13:11I am therefore optimistic that we will indeed succeed.
13:15We will indeed also have joint economic and cultural projects.
13:20We will indeed have, and we already have the precedents,
13:23when the members of the civil society of our two countries meet.
13:29Business circles next will meet.
13:32In Yerevan, people can already buy Azerbaijani fuel for their cars.
13:38Years ago, if you would speak about this, there would have been hostile reaction to this.
13:44But this is the new reality we live in.
13:46And therefore, as for the problems of the world, there is a lot of volatility in the world.
13:52After COVID, a lot of things have changed.
13:55And the political map of the world is changing a lot.
13:59And the management methods are changing a lot.
14:03And therefore, especially in this situation, the small countries face challenges.
14:10But I do not want to underestimate them.
14:14Being small may also be an advantage.
14:17It allows us to act and take decisions independently ourselves
14:22and implement them independently ourselves.
14:26You may be surprised and ask, what about the big countries?
14:32Big countries have big problems.
14:34We have our countries, our interests, our action to be taken for our interests.
14:39The global geopolitical sort of picture in the landscape looks completely different.
14:43There is a lot of strengthening.
14:44There is rather cracking and shaking.
14:46And I would like to get that as a closing remarks for all of you speakers, please.
14:50How do you see with this challenging and shaking and rather fragile global landscape,
14:58how do you see then the place of Eurasia in that picture, President Tuleep?
15:02After peace de facto is established, we started also economic cooperation, export operations.
15:12Azerbaijan lifted all the restrictions on transportation of cargos to Armenia, from Kazakhstan, from Russia.
15:20And now we got a request from Armenian side to provide transit from Armenia to Russia.
15:28So we de facto unilaterally opened the corridors.
15:36Yes, the transportation goes through Georgia.
15:40But one day it will go through Armenia.
15:43One day Armenia will go directly through Azerbaijan.
15:47And that day is not too far away.
15:50We established a very close alliance relationship with Turkey, which is a brotherly country.
15:58And we have huge investments in Turkey.
16:01Our investments in Turkey are more than 20 billion U.S. dollars.
16:06We are one of the biggest investors in Georgia.
16:10With TRIP and the connectivity project, which the United States now is supervising,
16:17we will establish a new transportation corridor stretching from Asia, across the Caspian, through Azerbaijan,
16:26Armenia, part of Azerbaijan, which is Nakhchivan, Turkey, and further down to Europe,
16:33in addition to the existing corridors through Georgia.
16:37So the more routes, the better for consumers, for suppliers, for transit countries.
16:43So we as a country, we always concentrate on our regional agenda.
16:48And if we cannot achieve what we want in the region, we cannot have any aspirations for any kind of a global event.
16:59But today, especially after parallel tracks of Armenia-Azerbaijan and Turkish-Armenian rapprochement,
17:08which go in parallel and definitely will end in parallel by establishment of diplomatic relations between Turkey and Armenia,
17:17Azerbaijan and Armenia at the same time,
17:19We are changing the broad geographical area, part of Eurasia, which is very important for connectivity,
17:29for energy security, for peace, for stability.
17:32President, with your closing thoughts.
17:36The spillover effect will harm us a lot.
17:40I'll tell you why.
17:41More than Azerbaijan, of course, because we have a lot of German companies, French companies, Italian companies
17:46that are producing spare parts, if they will face bigger tariffs from the United States of America,
17:52which is the main market for those companies,
17:55it will mean that we'll have to shut down our factories, our plants in Serbia.
18:01And at the same time, there is a political issue.
18:03I see that we are coming to an end of a session.
18:06Everybody used to have its own Pandora's box.
18:09Now everybody is speaking about new Pandora's box.
18:12The real Pandora's box was open on Kosovo issue.
18:16When many countries in the world, Western world in particular,
18:22recognized and acknowledged an independence of Kosovo,
18:27saying, well, this was because of humanitarian disaster that was caused by alleged Serbian authorities action in Kosovo.
18:36And at the end, you can see the same arguments are used by all the others that are doing against the other countries.
18:42But everybody is forgetting when it started.
18:46And now why I'm afraid and why I'm saying that I'm not that optimistic is the fact that we are having more regional and local wars than ever.
18:54However, you have no certainty, even in the Gulf region, is it not used to be the case until the last few months.
19:06And also need to say that this divorce between the U.S. and Europe is not going to be just a temporary issue.
19:17It's going to last for quite a more time.
19:24And at the end, we'll all have to pay the price.
19:28Whether we'll be able to take care of ourselves, I hope that we'll be able to do it better than some others.
19:33But are we going to be hit?
19:36No doubt that we're going to be hit.
19:38But with the support and with the help, with the assistance of such good friends like Armenia and Azerbaijan and hopefully Turkey as well,
19:49we'll be able to overcome all these difficulties.
19:51Thank you very much for participating.
19:53Thank you for watching this live.
19:56We'll see you next time.