00:00there's no doubting the the impact that the lockout laws have had in a kind of protracted way
00:07on you know our our capacity to and permissiveness and capacity for folks to kind of get out and
00:14and engage with music in the city um but i think encouragingly now we really have
00:19the regulatory environment that we need for music and nightlife to really flourish
00:24yeah so to what extent has that turned around before now yeah i mean there's dead and music
00:32new south wales certainly commends the new south wales government and the work that they have done
00:36through the vibrancy reforms packages over the last few years um we saw the lockouts first uh
00:43repealed in 2021 and then the last of those have kind of um we've put the last nail in that coffin
00:48today um and so yeah we really embrace that work i think importantly while we've actually got a
00:57regulatory environment now that's in in so many ways stronger than it was in the kind of pre-lockouts
01:02era um and the important thing as well is that we have really incredible local artists and that's
01:07never changed we have artists all across sydney who are making incredible work whether it's in our
01:13kind of vibrant electronic and dance community whether that's in the r&b scene that's that's
01:18really you know thriving out in western sydney we've got a an amazing experimental and jazz music
01:24scene in sydney there's so much really great work happening and so if i had a kind of rallying call
01:29to uh sydney siders it's really just to kind of lift your gaze above the dull homogeny of the
01:36algorithms and go and support live music we really have so much going on in our city and this is a
01:41really uh market step forward for for um for the scene the dull homogeny of the algorithms i love
01:48that and um so uh take us through the details of this you say the the regulatory environment now is
01:55probably even a bit stronger than it was pre-lockout just yeah take us through um that that's right i
02:01mean i think there were a whole bunch of quite archaic uh regulatory uh you know conditions that were
02:08imposed on different venues licenses so things like you know not being able to dance in venues
02:13where there were mirror balls hanging or um you know stages needing to face certain directions based
02:19on historic complaints from from um you know nape you know single complainant neighbors those kinds
02:24of things so a lot of that work has really been wound back through the vibrancy reform package that
02:28the office of the 24-hour economy commissioner and others within the new south wales government
02:33have really led with uh sustained advocacy from across the sector um so we're in a really strong
02:39place now i think the the battleground now it's really about how audiences are connecting with
02:44artists because we've never had been in any doubt that there's great artists could have um coming out
02:49of sydney so the connecting piece is um is you know ensuring that the folks who live in sydney are
02:54getting out and supporting those artists yeah and what are the latest laws that have just been the
03:00final the final remnants of the laws that are being lifted now yeah i mean that these are just
03:07you know tweaks around uh last drinks those kinds of things um there are some kind of yeah little bits
03:14and pieces of the of the regulatory you know framework that were overhanging from um from the lockouts
03:21when they were kind of first introduced 12 years ago um so yeah we're in a really great place and and
03:28um happy to to commend the government for for their work in that space what about the people who kind
03:33of fought for these laws initially and their ongoing concerns about late night boozy violence
03:41yeah i mean i think i mean interestingly you know and first it's important to acknowledge that
03:48the you know uh violence perpetrated by men mainly in our nightlife spaces is a significant concern and
03:56and um we uh you know uh of course sympathetic to the the families of the victims who were involved in
04:06the lockouts being brought into place in the first in the first instance um interestingly though i mean
04:12some of those events they happened at 9 30 pm you know the actual lockouts were a kind of brash
04:18uh response to a much more difficult systemic problem which is um alcohol fueled violence and
04:26certainly um the kind of over policing and of you know the permissiveness of of folks participating in
04:34nightlife and music in sydney um was in in the view of music new south wales uh not the best way to
04:41kind of solve that much more difficult systemic problem um yeah i think we need to have a more
04:47nuanced conversation about that and is what's the kind of the level of vibrancy in sydney now and uh
04:54compared to what it was kind of three or five years ago yeah well as i said earlier i mean we've
04:59always and continue to have really great artists i mean there are so many musicians makers event
05:06promoters doing really interesting things there was a period where they were kind of exiled into
05:11non-traditional venue spaces through that lockout um period but that's never really changed i think
05:17the the call and certainly our message to folks living in sydney or anyone who's wanting to come and
05:22visit sydney to engage in the really great art and art making that we have in the city is to the
05:28people living in the space to kind of look up and get involved in supporting their local their local
05:33artists so seek out independent music media listen to community community radio listen to local abc radio
05:41um go out and see shows buy tickets buy them early and of course evangelize about the artists you love
05:47talk to your friends and family about the artists that are connecting with you this is a really important
05:51function of the way that we can all support local music and speaking about local music are you having fun
05:57in tamworth just arrived um but yeah really looking forward to uh to a couple of days of the tamworth
06:04country music festival it's always a good time to be up here um and uh and supporting the best
06:10country talent that we have coming out of new south wales and australia that's a that's a great
06:13festival are we going to see some video of you boot scooting we'll see joe
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