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00:00It's been three years, and we're still nowhere closer to getting this done, and I want my life to move forward.
00:10Barry and I are not divorced yet. It's been over three years. It's really, really hard.
00:18The bright side of Olivia Leap in my life is that I have a full and healthy relationship with my family now.
00:25Unfortunately, me and Olivia are not divorced. The paperwork did not go through. It's frustrating.
00:31At this point, she won't respond to my attorney or my texts.
00:36You may kiss the bride.
00:39Let's go!
00:42After the wedding last night, Micah and Isaac got into a fight.
00:46He hit me first. I guess he kind of started it.
00:50Everything that was emotional that fueled the fight from that point on was you.
00:54You said that Tegan was on OnlyFans.
00:57Yeah.
00:57Did you say that?
00:58Yeah.
00:58You also called Kay on a slut.
01:01No, I did not call her a slut. I called her a liar.
01:03I can't believe they're blaming me, but it is so up their alley.
01:06Like, I just didn't think this far of a stretch could happen, but it did.
01:11When you come in here and start telling us my family's a problem and don't even know Olivia...
01:15She's a good woman to be like. I like her.
01:17That concludes it here, Micah. Your woman wants to be like Olivia. Do you want that?
01:24Are you ready to go on our honeymoon?
01:37I am ready.
01:38Let's go.
01:39You look ready. I mean, come on.
01:42This outfit.
01:43I'm heading to Europe.
01:44Oh my goodness.
01:45I'm going to be in Paris for three days, Germany for two and a half weeks.
01:50So.
01:51And then we'll see. We haven't booked our return flight tonight.
01:54So we'll see.
01:55I'm with my wifey. My wife. I'm going to Europe with my wife.
02:02On the honeymoon.
02:05The wedding was definitely very peaceful.
02:08It was perfect in every way. Everything and more.
02:11I think just having our people there really just completed it.
02:15We're married now. We can kiss.
02:17Among other things.
02:23How did the wedding night go?
02:26And did ya?
02:28And did ya?
02:31I mean, obviously, the wedding night is just between Zach and I.
02:35But I will say it was pure and beautiful.
02:43It's such an intimate experience that there's soul ties that happen.
02:48It's like actual chemical connection when you have sex with your surroundings.
02:53And so, that's...
02:56Say that again? Have sex with your surroundings?
02:59No, like...
03:00Chemical connections to...
03:02Chemical connections.
03:02Did I say that? That was weird.
03:04Yeah. That was a little weird.
03:07I don't even remember what the question was.
03:09I think, like, overall, what made the day so perfect was just this...
03:16I mean, everyone was there for us.
03:18Yeah.
03:18And, like...
03:20I just don't know how to describe it.
03:22It was just, like, everyone was so overjoyed to see us.
03:26And everyone was encouraging.
03:29It was just such a great day.
03:30And, like, I didn't feel like there was any drama.
03:34That concludes it here, Micah.
03:36Your woman wants to be like Olivia.
03:37Do you want that?
03:38I don't.
03:40I know I'm at a crossroads, and it's either we spill everything out on the table and work through it somehow,
03:48or we spill everything out on the table and walk away from it.
03:51If you don't want to change and accept my family and actually work on improving them...
03:55So I need to change?
03:56Yes, you absolutely do.
03:57You do have to change.
03:58Do you think I can keep living like this?
04:00I have to change my beliefs and ethics.
04:03No, you just don't have to disrespect my family.
04:05If you're going to continue trying to find dirt on family members, it doesn't exist.
04:08I don't know where you got that mud, but smearing it over everything?
04:13There's certain things that I might be wrong about.
04:16Yes, I'm a human.
04:17You're not apologizing.
04:19I don't...
04:20Why are you not finding Tegan's only fan, which you have lied about over the years?
04:22It might just be clickbait articles, but I don't...
04:25Okay, so how can you find a clickbait article and accuse her of having it when it's just clickbait?
04:31Yes, because we're on our way to therapy for him cheating, and he cheats, and I was worried that he would cheat on me with you because...
04:37Get the hell out of here.
04:39How disrespectful to say that he would cheat on my girlfriend.
04:45I definitely feel for Veronica in this moment.
04:47I can't imagine being in a room where, you know, you're feeling so attacked.
04:52I do think and know everything she said was a lie in one form or another, and I don't want to excuse that behavior, but I do give her grace and feel for her.
05:02In the room, you say it might be clickbait.
05:07It might.
05:07It might be clickbait that a thousand things.
05:10There's mites to everything.
05:12Everything in this world, nothing is certain except life and death and taxes.
05:16Look at these two.
05:17Look at these two beautiful women.
05:18You have problems with them.
05:20That's not their fault.
05:21That's your fault.
05:22I don't really have problems with Caitlin.
05:24Is it possible that you were wrong about Tegan?
05:26It's possible I was wrong.
05:27It's also possible I was wrong about Micah.
05:30It's also possible I'm wrong about being a blonde.
05:32It's also possible I'm wrong, that I'm not the mayor.
05:34Yeah, anything's possible.
05:38Veronica, you never really apologized to me.
05:40About what?
05:41Much less anyone else.
05:42About what?
05:44Exactly.
05:45An apology I would love to get from Veronica is just the name-calling, the belittling.
05:50It'd be awesome to know she didn't mean that.
05:54The fight was why we were here, but that was the cause.
05:56That was the anger that I was feeling because of you.
06:00All the anger and everything, I would not have hit my own brother unless I had something
06:04like that built up inside of me.
06:05The reason this actually happened, the punch that-
06:08Are you going to blame me for your nose right now?
06:11Yes.
06:11Yes.
06:12Yes.
06:12We all are.
06:14What is going on?
06:16Like, what is my life right now?
06:17Like, how am I here?
06:19Veronica, you have manipulated everyone in this family, and then there's high feelings because
06:24of some of this stuff, and it ends up in a punch fight, and that's too bad, and that
06:28shouldn't have happened.
06:29But can you not see that you're at the root of all of that?
06:33I mean, it could be that, or it could be the family dynamics.
06:36I don't think even not being there causing a physical altercation-
06:40Everyone else in the family gets along.
06:42You're the common denominator.
06:44All of this would have a different outcome if she responded differently, but that wasn't
06:51her position at all.
06:53The more evidence we gave for what actually happened, the more she dug her heels in.
06:59Why did you come here?
07:00To support Mike and Lydia.
07:01Okay, well, you have done none of that.
07:03The cows didn't need your damn support.
07:05They're fat enough as they are.
07:06That's all you did is hang out there in the mud feeding cows because you burned every
07:10relationship with everyone here.
07:11I'm getting a tie.
07:12I like the drama.
07:13Yeah, rightfully so.
07:14Veronica, the reason you're getting attacked is because you have attacked every one of
07:19us.
07:19Every single person here.
07:19Amber, Kaylin, Isaac, my mom, Ethan, Tegan, and me, and me.
07:23Even people that are not here.
07:27Either I strictly choose her over my family and continue down a very difficult road, or I
07:33just cut ties.
07:35Veronica's not going to change.
07:37This is going nowhere.
07:38Right.
07:38She's going to be right.
07:40I think we need to leave.
07:42Go back to Boca.
07:47Yeah, we are done.
07:49I'm like, I'll come down and help you pack.
07:51It kind of feels like Veronica just kept, you know, pouring lighter fluid on a whole bunch
08:00of different stuff and tempting me to light it.
08:02The truth always comes out, and nothing stays secrets for forever.
08:07I was shooting a wedding this weekend in Georgia, and Ethan wanted to talk, and so we are going
08:17to meet at a hotel in Thomasville.
08:18I feel a little anxious.
08:22Our last conversations did not go well.
08:25I think we need to go back to Boca.
08:37Yeah, we are done.
08:38Michael, I'll come down and help you pack.
08:40When I tell Veronica that it's over, and I think we both know that it's not going to work
08:46out, she doesn't really say much.
08:51Do you think Veronica wanted you to break up with her?
08:54No, I don't know.
08:55That's a good possibility.
08:56You put gasoline on a wooden bridge and lit a match and threw it on there and then said,
09:01oh, poor me, I can't cross.
09:04Um, maybe I did.
09:06Maybe I did light a match.
09:09Honestly, I'm more into science experiments than bridges that could be burnt down by one match.
09:15Veronica, you probably don't see it because you are incapable of understanding this, but
09:19you missed out on a good family.
09:20You did?
09:21Yeah.
09:21Amen.
09:22Honestly, though.
09:23And that look right there says it all.
09:26That's the truth.
09:27Oh, nice knowing you, Veronica.
09:30Touche.
09:31Are you okay?
09:39I deserve more than to get cheated on.
09:44I deserve more than to get lied about.
09:48I guess when they went low, I went lower.
09:51Not by me.
09:53I was 100% on your side up until this morning when I found out you were calling me names
09:58behind my back, and then I can't.
10:00I can't do that.
10:01I don't think I could let people in that I don't trust.
10:04Then you'll never have relationships.
10:06And that's why, I just want you to see, that's why your relationship with this family failed,
10:10because you didn't let us in.
10:11Not because we didn't let you in.
10:14I let you guys in.
10:15No, you didn't.
10:16Not by calling us names and backstabbing us.
10:20I'm sorry for hurting you.
10:29I appreciate the words.
10:31I don't really believe it.
10:35Maybe it's genuine, and maybe it's not.
10:38I don't know.
10:39Fair.
10:39I've seen and heard enough today to know that I don't really want anything further to do with you.
10:46Good-o.
10:50Maybe I did sabotage it at the end.
10:52Maybe I was so tired of this messed up family and this toxic relationship that I said, add the catalyst.
11:01So what if I did?
11:05I feel like I'm in chemistry class, like, mixing things together, and it's going to, like, explode any second.
11:10Does Micah know that we talked at all?
11:12No.
11:13I know this will go bad.
11:15Mark my words.
11:16You're not emotionally intelligent.
11:18Grow a pair.
11:19As things progressed, I made up in my own mind that I couldn't be with somebody that could treat me like that.
11:26I don't think it's normal to look up your brother's girlfriend's naked photos.
11:30She's going around and just spreading rumors.
11:32I was prolonging something that needed to happen long ago.
11:36My claws are under their mittens.
11:38If I could wish one thing, I wish it happened sooner.
11:43I was scared to be alone, because I thought alone was the worst thing.
11:47But the worst thing is a toxic relationship where you lose love for yourself.
11:53I want people to know I did love him.
12:05I was experimenting, honestly, at this point with a bunch of chemistry beakers, fragile glass, toxic chemicals.
12:15And Micah and I were too.
12:17Beautiful chemicals, but toxic together.
12:21And the catalyst was the family.
12:25I never thought something like that would happen.
12:31But I guess it's my fault.
12:33So what do you want to do as far as, like, getting down there and getting your stuff?
12:44I'm going to take my truck.
12:46Is she riding with you?
12:48If it's drug out, prolonged, lengthened anything, it's going to be even harder.
12:52Should I fly back and ship your stuff?
12:55You're going to ship my boat for me?
12:57I mean, I won't pay for it, but I can logistically sign it up.
13:00Yeah, no, I'll drive you back.
13:02I'll drop you off.
13:03So after we break up, my first response is, you know, I can, I will drive you back.
13:12I don't know if we should ride back in the same car.
13:14If you ride back in the same car, I think you should at least have one of us with you.
13:18Probably.
13:19I was going to say, I wouldn't go down there with her by yourself.
13:24As you know how manipulative she can be.
13:27Yeah.
13:28Shortly after I came to the conclusion that seven hours in the car together would probably
13:31not be the best thing right now.
13:33I left Veronica with the producers and absolutely knew they were escorting her back to her home.
13:42Come on, Isaac.
13:45So Ethan and Isaac agreed to go with me to go down and grab all my things.
13:49I'm proud of you, Micah.
13:51Yeah, it took, I mean, it took a lot.
14:03Two trucks, two boats, a motorcycle, and a car.
14:24Yeah.
14:24Well, we got back late last night from picking up all my stuff down in Boca.
14:34It was hard, I guess not at first because I had been really frustrated, but after, like,
14:41you know, I started going through the garage and getting the last of my stuff, it really
14:46hit me.
14:47I mean, I just broke down.
14:49I couldn't help it.
14:50And she broke down.
14:51She was like, why, why?
14:52Just tell me you never loved me, any closure that way.
14:55And I was like, I can't tell you that.
14:56I loved you very much.
14:58I've never, never loved anyone like I loved you.
15:01Never had a relationship like this.
15:02And then she was like, well, was I your guinea pig then?
15:04I was like, no, it was all very real.
15:07And I'm sorry I had hurt you as bad as I had, but I just couldn't, couldn't keep doing that.
15:12Which room are you going to live in?
15:14I think Isaac's old room.
15:17But Zach's got all his stuff in there still.
15:19For the time being, I'm going to unpack my things.
15:22I'm going to settle in up here.
15:24And I think I'll give it about a week.
15:25And then I'll go back down to South Florida and keep fencing.
15:29On top of everything that's going on, we found out Veronica is in the virtual realm spewing
15:35out lots of things that are just not true.
15:40Veronica is saying that me, Mike, and Isaac had left her abandoned on the side of the road.
15:48Yeah.
15:48Absolutely not true.
15:50She's accused my family of abusing animals, which is not true.
15:55She's accused my family of incest, which is absolutely not true.
15:58All she is trying to do is find anything that would make someone look bad and spread it
16:07out there.
16:08I don't think there's a need to entertain that stuff.
16:10I think most people can easily read through that.
16:13She acts like she's anti-bullying, but she sure does it herself.
16:17I think trying to heal, trying to get over it is going to be much easier for me if I
16:21don't look at all that stuff.
16:24I've never said that she's a liar.
16:27I've just noticed that she may have embellished the narrative.
16:31She's a liar.
16:32Tonight, we're doing a controlled burn all down and get rid of the good with the bad
16:49if it's not salvageable so you can start over.
16:56It kind of feels like Veronica just kept, you know, pouring lighter fluid on a whole bunch
17:00of different stuff and tempting me to light it.
17:03And every time we'd get in an argument, every time she would threaten me to leave, tell me
17:06to pack my stuff, get out of here.
17:08I didn't want to.
17:09I had a box of matches in my hand, but I didn't want to use them.
17:11That match had to be lit and thrown down on the lighter fluid.
17:18My therapist was like, have you overthought that maybe God sent Veronica to make you realize
17:27you want to settle down and not just take relationships and women and all that stuff
17:32for granted just for pleasure?
17:34Like, there's actually a very rewarding relationship.
17:36This was like, have you overthought that maybe God sent Veronica to make you realize you want
17:45to settle down?
17:47And not just take relationships and women and all that stuff for granted just for pleasure.
17:52Like, there's actually a very rewarding relationship with someone, not something shallow, just
17:56for fun.
17:59Even though she might not be the one, it might have taken her for me to come to that realization,
18:04you know?
18:05You know, living a double life and not being transparent about my past.
18:10I cheated on her.
18:11I feel very, very, very for putting her through that.
18:15You know, I learned that all that will catch up to you.
18:17The truth always comes out and nothing stays secrets for forever.
18:39It's been quite a week, hasn't it?
18:43Yeah, it has.
18:44I got a little gift for you, but there is one string attached.
18:49Where's the string?
18:51You have to teach me how to smoke one.
18:53Whoa!
18:55We've had a pretty chaotic couple of days here at the farm.
18:59Ethan is with me and we're hanging out, enjoying a little bit of downtime after all of the
19:05excitement.
19:07So I bite the end off.
19:09I've never really smoked a cigar.
19:10One time in college, I took a puff from somebody else's, but I inhaled deeply and apparently
19:15you're not supposed to do that.
19:18Any tips for biting it off?
19:19Just the very tip.
19:22Just the tip?
19:23Just the very tip.
19:24That's awkward.
19:27That's what she said?
19:30Yeah, with Ethan.
19:31I kind of feel like we're making up for lost time, you know?
19:35I'm glad for Mike that he got out of that relationship.
19:38I was talking to him last night.
19:40I was like, man, if I could go back and I could get out of mine and Olivia's relationship
19:45as quickly as you got out of yours with Veronica's.
19:47Yeah.
19:48Man.
19:49But you live and you learn.
19:50Yeah.
19:51My mom and dad are not divorced yet because they haven't come to an agreement on who gets
19:55what, and then me and Olivia are not divorced because the first application wasn't filled
20:01out correctly.
20:02And after I hired an attorney to deal with it, Olivia will not respond to my attorney.
20:11Yeah, me and Tegan, I love Tegan so much.
20:13I guess the only thing is, like, where am I going to live?
20:16I really, really feel like I need to be back down here.
20:19But I don't think she can move down here at the moment.
20:22Do you know when she could?
20:25It doesn't bother Tegan that I'm not divorced.
20:28It just bothers her more so that nothing is happening to come to that point.
20:34I wanted to apologize to you for going along with all the crap that Olivia did for so long.
20:40And I don't know why I did.
20:42The last two years, I've really spent a lot of time reading and, you know, educating myself
20:48and, I guess, developing and just knowing why I think and believe the things I do so
20:54I can explain myself.
20:55And one of those things is family.
20:58You can't cut off your family, you know, for your spouse's sake, you know.
21:05Yeah.
21:06I really admire Ethan for, you know, really trying to make things work with Olivia.
21:10And, you know, I tried for 25 years with Barry.
21:15You know, it's hard to try to make a marriage work.
21:20I probably won't feel fully free until I'm divorced from Barry.
21:25I still feel just chained down.
21:29So anyways, I'm sorry for not standing up to her.
21:33I just, I wanted us to work out some of that.
21:35I loved her.
21:36I couldn't articulate my thoughts and feelings very well at all.
21:40It was clear to me you were walking on eggshells and I hated that for you, so.
21:45It's so freeing to not walk on eggshells anymore, to not answer to anyone.
21:51Hello?
22:00Hello.
22:00Hi.
22:02Can you see us?
22:04Hey.
22:04Oh, there you are.
22:06How's it going?
22:06Good.
22:07How's it going?
22:07Where are you guys?
22:09We're at the Louvre in Paris.
22:13Oh, nice.
22:13Wow.
22:14Yeah, we're going to see the Mona Lisa here.
22:16So how was it?
22:17How did the deed go down?
22:26How'd it go?
22:27Was it as good as he thought?
22:29Lydia, be truthful.
22:33How are you guys doing?
22:34What are you guys up to?
22:36Mike and Veronica broke up, so I went and helped Mike move up from Boca to Georgia.
22:41Oh, my.
22:43I guess I should call Mike.
22:44Yeah.
22:44That'd be good.
22:45Lydia, did you know Mike and Isaac got into a fight the night of your wedding over Veronica?
22:52Isaac sent Mike to the ER.
22:54He hit him with his elbow.
22:56He had to get stitches in the nose.
22:58You know, the outcome of that was that they're no longer together.
23:02Yeah.
23:02Well, thanks for the update there, I guess.
23:06Anything else new?
23:07Yeah, Zach, do me a favor.
23:09Make sure you fill those croissants with cream.
23:16Yeah.
23:17Okay.
23:17Bye.
23:18Talk to you later.
23:19Love you.
23:22We didn't keep them on the phone long because they have pressing business.
23:27Pressing up against each other.
23:29Oh, you had to go there.
23:30I did.
23:32I was hoping you'd buy me a drink.
23:36Oh, well, what do you want?
23:38If you want to be stingy, you can get me a glass, but otherwise get me the bottle.
23:42No, no, no, no.
23:44I'll do that.
23:46Will you please stop slandering and disrespecting my family in public for things, whether you perceive
23:52them to be true or not?
23:54Olivia seems to be coming closer and closer to what Veronica is, and that's a sad reality.
24:02Olivia, interview a beam worker.
24:29One husband didn't work out.
24:32I'm trying for four now.
24:36I am divorced in spirit, not in legal paperwork, yeah.
24:41I was shooting a wedding this weekend in Georgia, and Ethan reached out.
24:48He said he wanted to talk, and so we are going to meet at a hotel in Thomasville.
24:52I'm living in Washington, D.C.
24:56I moved there from L.A. and signed a six-month lease in the city, just tried it out, explored,
25:03lived on my own for a bit.
25:04And then afterwards, Brendan and I signed a lease on a townhome together and moved in.
25:08And yeah, I am so happy.
25:13The last time I saw Ethan, well, the last time Ethan and I spoke was when I was in Minnesota
25:19trying to get him to sign paperwork to get all that finalized.
25:23He did sign paperwork, but he didn't fill it out properly, so it was flagged by the courts
25:27it never went through.
25:28So I feel a little anxious about it.
25:31Our last conversations didn't go well, but at the end of the day, I would love to at least
25:35walk away from this and be divorced.
25:52I'm here at Ken Wine in Thomasville.
25:55Um, Barry and I finally came to an agreement, signed, notarized, done, just a couple days
26:02ago.
26:03And we are officially divorced.
26:06We went back and forth for over three years, and then finally we decided to sit down and
26:10do mediation.
26:11And that got us in one day to settle everything.
26:16And so now I thought it would be nice to just meet and have a glass of wine and just kind
26:21of close that chapter officially, and that's what we're doing.
26:34After a year and a half of nothing, not answering my texts, blocking me, not fixing the paperwork,
26:41not making any effort to be divorced, Ethan finally unblocked me.
26:44This was like a month and a half ago, maybe, and he was very, very, very urgent.
26:50We need to get divorced immediately.
26:51We need to get divorced now.
26:53And I'm like, what is going on?
26:55I was traveling overseas at that moment, and I was like, listen, I will deal with this in a hot
26:58minute.
26:59Like, you made me wait a year and a half.
27:01I do.
27:02And then, um, I learned that same day, that was the day he posted his new girlfriend online.
27:06So, I'm not saying there's a correlation, but you can draw what you will from that.
27:12And so, here I am.
27:14Let's get it all done.
27:15All in one weekend.
27:21Hello, hello.
27:26Hi.
27:27How are you doing?
27:27Good.
27:28How are you doing?
27:29I'm doing okay.
27:31I'm just so relieved.
27:33I'm like, oh, boy.
27:38So, what are you drinking?
27:41Well, I was hoping you'd buy me a drink.
27:45Oh, well, what do you want?
27:47Um, white wine.
27:48I prefer a bottle.
27:50If you want to be stingy, you can get me a glass, but otherwise, get me the bottle.
27:54No, no, no, no.
27:56I'll do that.
27:57Bottoms up, girl.
27:58Okay, thank you.
28:00I never thought you and Kim would be at a wine bar.
28:03Yeah, here we are, you know.
28:05And, you know, somebody was whining.
28:09We've got Alice, and then here's your non-alcoholic spritz.
28:14All right.
28:15Thank you, thank you.
28:16Here's to 25 years.
28:18Yeah.
28:19This is my mini divorce party right now, but sometime I'll get my girlfriends together and we'll plan something fun.
28:28And this ain't it.
28:29Is Ethan coming?
28:41I think so.
28:42Ethan and I said we'd meet at four at the hotel here.
28:58He just texted me and said, I'll be there at 5 p.m.
29:01So, do you know why he's running late?
29:05It's Ethan Plath.
29:07I see that some things have not changed.
29:09So, if we can sell the house and get that other property paid off, then I feel like that's a step in the right direction.
29:22Yeah, that'll be big.
29:24Kim and I have agreed to sell the White House, so we're both on board with that.
29:29And I'll be moving to one of our properties in Cairo, and Kim will be doing whatever she has planned to do.
29:36I like the idea of me living out on the farm, like in a camper or something, and, you know, Ethan and or Micah and or Isaac building and living on the property, you know.
29:47There's a certain dynamic that Ethan and Micah and Isaac have together.
29:54Yeah.
29:54Right.
29:55So, they got the brother bond, and the brother bond wasn't there for all those years when, you know, the who, you know, was around.
30:07And things weren't smooth.
30:09Yeah.
30:09Right.
30:10Oh, Ethan, class.
30:22Keep an eye out at the front of the hotel in the middle there.
30:26Did he just text you again?
30:27No.
30:28Did he text you?
30:295.50.
30:32That's his ETA.
30:36That means, like, he just left.
30:38Yeah.
30:40I'm definitely going to give him a ****.
30:46Please leave your message.
30:47We'll see what he has to say for himself.
30:49I mean, I don't, when I was married to him, I took it personally that he did not communicate with me.
30:55Yeah, he called the meeting, so I think he owes me communication, but, like, it's not personal.
31:00It's who he is as a person.
31:01It's how he treats people.
31:03Ethan's here.
31:03Okay.
31:04Okay.
31:10Why are you so late?
31:34I would like for this to be done, and I would like for this to be wrapped up so we could both move on.
31:45All that you had to do was just talk to my attorney, and I didn't know why you weren't.
31:50Yeah.
31:50Well, I was overseas when you guys were trying to contact me originally.
31:53Look, I am not arguing with you over the details of the divorce.
31:58All I'm saying is, I have everything lined up.
32:01Let's do it and move on.
32:03You made me wait a year and a half.
32:05You can at least be polite about asking.
32:09I ask you politely in every way.
32:11I am not apologizing for any of that.
32:20The crazy thing is, just a few short years ago, we were standing in the driveway, and that whole incident went down.
32:29So that's quite a...
32:30And that was all Olivia with it, but he really didn't...
32:33He was trying to save his marriage.
32:35Yeah, I mean, that's understandable, and I see how that was.
32:39But it's just kind of a big change.
32:43Oh, yeah, definitely.
32:43To now, where he's changed.
32:46He's changed.
32:47He's become more like...
32:49The happy guy.
32:50Yeah.
32:56Hey.
32:57Hey.
33:01How's it going?
33:02Why are you so late?
33:03I had stuff to do.
33:04Yeah?
33:05Yeah.
33:05Yeah.
33:07Okay.
33:09Two hours late?
33:13Okay.
33:15Sorry for being late.
33:16I'm late today.
33:19Yesterday is the last day that I'm in Cairo, and I had rented a bunch of equipment at my dad's house and cut down trees.
33:27I just had to finish what I was doing before I could stop, because by the time I got back from talking to her, it would be dark.
33:32Well, that's in the past is what it is.
33:36I couldn't do anything about it.
33:37Thank you for meeting me here.
33:39I got two things to say to you.
33:41Okay.
33:41When can we finalize everything?
33:46We can do it now.
33:47Do you have everything to do it now?
33:49Um, you asked me in a text about our original papers.
33:54Mm-hmm.
33:54Those are gone.
33:57They closed the case.
34:00So my attorney said, if you get a hold of him, then he'll take care of everything.
34:05It can be done in two weeks.
34:07It'll cost you nothing.
34:08Yeah, I'm not paying.
34:11Oh, I understand.
34:14Olivia is saying it is my fault that stuff was spilled out incorrectly.
34:18That is absolutely false.
34:20In November 23, Olivia came back after her summer in California.
34:24We sat down at the island in the kitchen in our apartment.
34:28She was on her laptop on the state's website filling out the application for divorce.
34:33I distinctly remember there was one section that had to do with her finances that she skipped.
34:40And it wasn't you that decided to skip it?
34:42No.
34:44And I'm pretty sure that's why it was sent back.
34:47I do have to say, I would like for this to be done.
34:55And I would like for this to be wrapped up so we could both move on.
34:58However, you both reached out to me during a time when I was, one, overseas.
35:03It was not even in the U.S.
35:04And then, two, I told you, like, during tax season.
35:07And I didn't feel like there was a lot of wiggle room.
35:11Like, there was a lot of push from your end to get it done.
35:13I'm ready to get it done.
35:16I would just like for there to be, like, some niceties and grace and timeline.
35:26That's fine with me.
35:27Um, the only reason for that was because I had everything lined up and all that you had
35:35to do was just talk to my attorney and I didn't know why you weren't.
35:39Yeah.
35:39Well, I was overseas when you guys were trying to contact me originally.
35:42Look, I am not arguing with you over the details of the divorce.
35:46All I'm saying is, have everything lined up, let's do it, and move on.
35:57We can, and I'm not arguing with you either, but you made me wait a year and a half.
36:01You can at least be polite about asking.
36:05I asked you politely in every way.
36:07I am not apologizing for any of that.
36:08As soon as I saw Ethan, I knew he was not in a good mood.
36:14I guess I was hoping this time would be different.
36:17At least just being, like, polite.
36:19And I should know by now not to walk into it with expectations.
36:25The only other thing that I want to ask you is will you please stop slandering and disrespecting
36:32my family in public for things, whether you perceive them to be true or not?
36:37Would you please stop?
36:38No.
36:39Why?
36:40It's not slander.
36:42No, it is slander.
36:43Me talking about my life and my experiences is not slander.
36:49Anyone can say they experienced anything, but if it's factually not true, it is slander.
36:55Olivia seems to be coming closer and closer to what Veronica is, and that's a sad reality.
37:03I thought Olivia was more tactful.
37:05I thought, you know, she wouldn't just outright lie about things like Veronica.
37:08I just, I see them both the same now.
37:12They're both liars.
37:12It's infuriating to me because what she walked into, she claims it's awful.
37:20Some of it may have been unpleasant, but it is not nearly as bad as she makes it out to be.
37:25And it's also 100% true that the majority of the problems that she wants to talk about today of her experience, she also created.
37:36You've done nothing but separate me from my family, slander my family.
37:40Friends and family have let me know occasionally here and there, like when she's been on a podcast or when she's posted something and what she said.
37:49So, like, there's a lot of things, just like with Veronica, that she read into, that she created, that she made bigger than they ever were.
37:55And my parents are like, what the hell's going on here?
37:56My siblings is, and then, and then after you made a situation 10 times worse, then you want to step back and say, look at all that I went through.
38:05It's just, it's a double standard.
38:07It's a victim mentality that pisses me the hell off.
38:09You wouldn't like it if I was doing it to your family.
38:13All I'm saying, please, from this day forward, leave my family out of it.
38:17I can't control what you do, what you don't do, but I'm just asking you, whether it's on social media, the internet, to other people, please stop.
38:26Leave my family out of it.
38:28I can't do that because your family is a decade worth of experiences in my life that were hard, that made me the person that I am.
38:37And I'm not asking you to not do that.
39:06I'm just saying, can you not do it in a slanderous way?
39:08Is telling the truth slandering people?
39:12Me and my family have not spoken out on social media, the internet, whatever, about anything that Veronica or Olivia have been saying.
39:18For one, I think their actions, very low, very dirty.
39:25It's definitely not following the golden rule.
39:26But also, I'm very confident if we did, it would literally start a he said, she said social media war.
39:35The only thing I'd say to Olivia, I think at this point, is thank you for the good times that we had.
39:45I would really like to officially, legally close that chapter, move on.
39:50And I have not and will not say anything about you purposely, slander you or anything like that.
39:57And I would just like that same in return.
39:59I think the kids all recognized that they had a really fun childhood growing up, you know.
40:09Yeah.
40:09It was a really good time.
40:11Yeah.
40:11It was really good.
40:13You can overcome negativity in the long run.
40:15Yeah.
40:15And come out on top.
40:17I think a lot of that was driven by Olivia.
40:20Yeah.
40:20Well, it was good having this last talk with you.
40:25I will be in touch.
40:27Did you get me a glass or a bottle?
40:29Yeah, there's a bottle there for you.
40:31Okay.
40:34I can't not talk about your family if I want to talk about my life.
40:41Very well.
40:42Do what you want.
40:43I've asked you.
40:45That's all I can do.
40:49Thanks.
40:50Okay.
40:53Have a nice life.
40:56You don't have to be friends with all your exes.
40:58You don't have to be friends with the people you were married to.
41:00Sometimes it works that way.
41:01Sometimes it doesn't.
41:03But that always depends on both people.
41:06And in this case, there's absolutely no way her and I will ever be friends.
41:13I was told you have the rest of a bottle for me.
41:16That's the most Ethan Plath thing he could do.
41:21Show up two hours late.
41:22Say, I have two things to tell you.
41:24A.
41:24B.
41:25Have a nice life.
41:27Walk off.
41:29Yeah.
41:29So he didn't actually buy me a bottle.
41:32My relationship with Olivia, you know, I look back on it now and I was like, dang, we should have never been together.
41:41You know, it never should have gone that far.
41:43But because it did and because I loved her and eventually ended, it ended up teaching me more than I probably would have ever learned anywhere else.
41:51Honestly, it's made me a better man.
41:56Life is a process.
41:57You're never done.
41:58And, you know, I'm still learning and I hope I continue to for the rest of my days.
42:03Life is a process.
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