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00:00Many countries seek to transform their economies, but few do it with such a centralized approach
00:05and such vast amounts of capital.
00:08Through its Vision 2030, Saudi Arabia wants to shed its image as just an oil nation and
00:13modernize its economy.
00:15It's a goal that comes from the very top, with the crown prince meeting President Trump
00:19and foreign business leaders in the United States at the end of 2025.
00:24More than 40% of Saudi Arabia's GDP comes from oil, but by 2030, the kingdom wants that
00:29number to be closer to 35%, with around two-thirds of GDP coming from non-oil sources.
00:35Just this month, the country started opening its property market to foreign investors and
00:40announced plans to do the same with its equity markets after a year of poor returns.
00:45In 2025, Saudi Arabia's benchmark index dropped 13%, despite strong stock performance in much
00:51of the rest of the world.
00:53Stephen Cook is a senior fellow for Middle East and Africa Studies at the Council on Foreign
00:57Relations.
00:57Saudi economy has been a commercial economy, but it hasn't really had genuine institutions
01:02of a market economy.
01:03Independent courts, which he hasn't even tackled yet, but rational investment laws and the
01:09things that investors really, really need in order to operate outside of the hydrocarbon
01:15industry.
01:16You know, with the Vision 2030, His Royal Highness the Crown Prince said, we have to diversify
01:24the economy.
01:25We don't want to continue relying on one source of income, which is the oil.
01:30In a time where we have vast number of other things like mining, natural resources, phosphate,
01:39gold, and nature, we can do a lot in the sport, culture, and entertainment, and tourism.
01:47His Excellency Ahmed Al-Khatib has been serving as Saudi Arabia's Minister of Tourism since
01:522020.
01:53Tourism was one of the main pillars of Vision 2030.
01:59And since then, we have been working to modernize the country, build new destinations, new airlines,
02:06Riyadh Airlines, new airports, including King Salman Airport, and new hotels.
02:12Leisure tourism might be relatively new to Saudi Arabia, but for centuries, millions of Muslims
02:18have come to Mecca and Medina for the Hajj religious pilgrimage.
02:21We are blessed to have the two holy cities.
02:24They use to represent 60 percent of our international arrivals back in 2019.
02:31And last year, they dropped to 46 percent and the ledger increased.
02:38And therefore, we will continue pushing and promoting travel for ledger to Saudi Arabia,
02:46travel to enjoy your holidays in Saudi Arabia.
02:50And in the same time, the religious tourism will grow to a much bigger number than what
02:55we are having today.
02:57But now, Saudi Arabia wants to put a new foot forward.
03:01It might look like the Maldives, but that's the Shibara Resort Saudi Arabia on the Red Sea.
03:06Well, we were born out of Vision 2030.
03:10Vision 2030 is trying to accomplish a number of different things for the country, amongst
03:14which, obviously, creating a vibrant society, opening up the kingdom and diversifying the
03:19economy.
03:20John Pagano is CEO of Red Sea Global, a real estate development company founded by the
03:26Crown Prince himself to create the real estate that will become part of Saudi Arabia's tourism
03:30offerings.
03:30We have a beautiful, pristine environment, which in the world today doesn't exist.
03:36I mean, we've exploited our nature and our environments globally.
03:40When I first came to Saudi Arabia, I was shocked at how beautiful and pristine this environment
03:45was.
03:45We had beautiful islands, a coastline that was largely untouched.
03:50Pagano's shock is exactly the image that the kingdom wants to change.
03:54Stephen Cook said there's a long road ahead.
03:56I was there before the opening up of Saudi Arabia, and it was extraordinary because nobody
04:00had been there.
04:01But in terms of tourism, I think that, yes, there'll be tourism from, you know, major Muslim
04:07countries, Indonesia, Malaysia, India, which has the second largest Muslim population in
04:12the world, even though it's not a Muslim country.
04:14But also, I think there is a genuine interest in attracting people from the West, Americans and
04:19Europeans, and not just the kind of, you know, adventure tourism that they may have seen
04:24so far.
04:25Beach resorts attract wealthy tourists, but the kingdom is also leaning into its rich
04:29history to combine luxury and culture for what it hopes will be a unique experience.
04:35Al-Ola is an incredible place, a place like no other.
04:38It's a region in northwest Saudi Arabia with incredible natural and cultural significance.
04:44It's located on the ancient incense route, and many civilization has passed through for
04:52thousands of years.
04:53Abir Al-Akl is the CEO of the Royal Commission for Al-Ola, which means glory in Arabic.
04:59The city is one of eight UNESCO World Heritage Sites in Saudi Arabia, and the kingdom has big
05:05plans to make the destination a central part of its tourism initiative.
05:09Al-Ola is not just a historical site.
05:13Al-Ola is a home.
05:15Many families have lived there for generations.
05:17And I would say that an example would be Al-Ola Old Town, where it was inhibited by the families
05:25starting from the 12th century until late 1980s.
05:30Now, if you bring all of this together, the ancient past, the incredible nature, protected nature, and the living
05:40culture and, you know, living community, this basically gets you a complete picture of Al-Ola.
05:47It's important to say that Al-Ola is Saudi Arabia's treasure, but it's also the gift for the world.
05:52Which year did Al-Ola open for international tourists?
05:57We started our efforts back in 2019.
06:01Today, we have received around 300,000 guests, visitors to Al-Ola, 30 percent of which are international
06:08visitation. So we're targeting around 2 million visitors by 2035.
06:12If Al-Ola's plan to bring in 2 million visitors by 2035 sounds ambitious when it attracted only 15 percent of that
06:20last year, that's because it is. It echoes the kingdom's big target of getting 50 million foreign
06:26visitors a year by the end of the decade, in addition to 100 million local tourists. It's a goal that is
06:32even more stunning, considering the kingdom only opened its borders to leisure tourists in 2019.
06:38Do you feel like you're on track to get there?
06:40I'm very comfortable. The 50 million will put Saudi Arabia among the top 10 most visited
06:47countries around the world.
06:48And how much of a draw are those big mega events, the World Expo, potentially FIFA World Cup?
06:55How much of a draw is that going to be in terms of bringing in those international tourists?
06:59And where does it fit in to your broader plan?
07:02It is very important for us to repeat the visitors who will come again and again to
07:08spend their holidays in Saudi Arabia, not to come only for business or to visit their families and friends.
07:16Adding leisure tourism to its offerings requires a big capital outlay. The government plans to spend
07:22almost $1 trillion in all to transform its tourism industry. Private investment in tourism rose to $3.8
07:29billion in 2024. And about 40% of that comes from foreign capital.
07:34How important is it to get private sector
07:36involvement with all of these events and projects that you're putting together?
07:39It's very important. It is part of Vision 2030. We want the private sector to drive. We are a regulator.
07:48When we opened this sector, the government started to stimulate the sector. But down the road,
07:55this sector has to be run by the private sector. The private sector in the tourism built the hotel,
08:02built the shopping mall, and built the restaurants, etc. And they operated. They are the investor.
08:08They are the operator. But they have to. The private sector in Saudi Arabia is contributing
08:14heavily in building new destinations and new experiences. We cannot do it alone. The private
08:21sector role is very vital to the success of this sector. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia also has stiff
08:27competition from its neighbor, the United Arab Emirates, and beach destinations in Africa and Asia.
08:32This is a dynamic throughout the region. There is competition among all of these countries
08:38and cities, actually. And even within them, you know, there's a competition between Abu Dhabi and Dubai,
08:43even though they're both in the UAE. And I think that the Saudis always looked themselves as the big dog
08:50in the region, but they'd lag behind in terms of the kind of ability to attract businesses and firms
08:58and build these gleaming, gleaming cities. International visitors account for almost 80 percent of the UAE's
09:05tourism expenditure. And right now, Dubai offers tourists something that much of the rest of Saudi Arabia
09:11doesn't, alcohol. But even that is changing. Well, you can get alcohol in the diplomatic quarter.
09:18You could always get it through diplomatic pouch, but now there's actually a shop. And so Saudis
09:22proclaim, not officially, but they would say, you know, this is a precursor. This is the first step
09:30towards legalizing alcohol in the kingdom. I don't think anybody knows when that's going to happen.
09:35And from, I think, the Saudi perspective, that's not make or break. People will want to come to Saudi
09:40Arabia. They'll want to see Jidda and Riyadh and Al-Ula and other places. And it won't deter them if they
09:48can't get a glass of wine. But it certainly would be a nice addition if they could. A growing tourism
09:54industry is also changing things at home. Look, I think the transformation has been
10:00breathtaking. I first came to Saudi Arabia for the very first time in 2017. And, you know, the changes
10:08in society, the changes, I mean, simple things like cinemas and music, women driving. And, you know,
10:15you're walking around today in a Western business suit, which back then you probably didn't see.
10:20The local community are basically the heart of our vision. Since the beginning, we ensured that
10:27we have set in place an approach that ensures empowering our local community through education,
10:34sewage shop, and opportunities. Is Saudi infrastructure ready to accommodate
10:42this potential influx of future tourists? Oh, yes. We are ready today. We have catered for 116
10:49without any issue. But definitely we are building new destinations, new experiences. I believe
10:57we are ready to cater for with the projects in the pipeline under construction, whether Riyadh Airlines
11:08or King Salman Airport that will happen, and many other airports like Abha Airport, Asir Airport,
11:17which is important, and the hotel rooms that are under construction, and Riyadh, and many other
11:26destinations or locations. We will be absolutely fine. I don't think we will have a challenge to achieve
11:34the 150 billion.
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