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Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney faced tough questions from reporters in Beijing after meeting Chinese President Xi Jinping, as journalists repeatedly raised concerns over China’s human rights record, freedom of expression, and Canada’s trade strategy. The exchange highlights growing tension between economic diversification and democratic values as Ottawa deepens engagement with Beijing.
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Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney faced tough questions from reporters in Beijing after meeting Chinese President Xi Jinping, as journalists repeatedly raised concerns over China’s human rights record, freedom of expression, and Canada’s trade strategy. The exchange highlights growing tension between economic diversification and democratic values as Ottawa deepens engagement with Beijing.
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00:00All right. Good afternoon. Bonjour, tout le monde.
00:10C'est un grand plaisir d'être ici pour ma première visite en Chine en tant que Premier ministre.
00:17Et je tiens tout d'abord à remercier le président Xi Jinping et le Premier ministre Li
00:23pour leur hospitalité qu'ils nous ont témoigné ici à Bégin.
00:31It has been a historic and productive two days,
00:36during which myself and fellow ministers have had the opportunity to meet
00:42with President Xi, Premier Li, Chairman Zhao,
00:45as well as business leaders across a number of key sectors.
00:50And I am very pleased to announce that we have made significant progress
00:55in a number of key areas.
00:58Stepping back, it's been eight years since the Canadian Prime Minister visited China.
01:04And in that time, the world has changed dramatically.
01:08The technological revolution and the energy transition are accelerating
01:12at an unprecedented pace.
01:15The global trading system is undergoing a fundamental change,
01:19and the effectiveness of multilateral institutions on which trading powers
01:23such as Canada and China have greatly relied.
01:27That effectiveness has been greatly reduced.
01:30This is happening fast. It's large. It's a rupture. It's not a transition.
01:35What we do now, as Canada, how we position ourselves in the world
01:39will shape our future for decades to come.
01:42Canada can thrive in a new system.
01:48But to do so, we must be ambitious.
01:52We must work at speed and scale to find new partners to diversify our trade
01:56and attract unprecedented levels of investment in our country.
02:00And we must be pragmatic.
02:02That means we have to understand the differences between Canada and other countries
02:08and then focus our efforts to work together where we're aligned.
02:14And it's with this approach that Canada is forging a new strategic partnership with China.
02:21China is the world's second largest economy.
02:23It contributes one-third to global growth.
02:28It's our second largest trading partner and our third largest investor.
02:33Two-way trade between our countries amounts to nearly $120 billion a year.
02:38There are 400,000 careers across Canada.
02:44Farmers in the prairies, manufacturers and engineers in Ontario and Quebec,
02:48fish harvesters in Atlantic Canada and British Columbia,
02:51they are all supported by trade with China.
02:55$20 billion in wages are earned each year by Canadians
03:00because of our existing trade relationship.
03:06And this is a relationship that has been distant and uncertain for nearly a decade.
03:12That has held back investment.
03:14It's stalled business growth and cost Canadian workers good.
03:18And it has had the consequence of leaving us even more dependent
03:26on our largest trading partner.
03:29And that's why immediately after the election,
03:32Canada's new government began to recalibrate our relationship with China.
03:37Strategically, pragmatically and decisively.
03:41A bit after the election, I discussed with the Prime Minister Li.
03:47Deux months later, we were met in New York.
03:51In October, I met the President Xi in South Korea.
03:56With a supportive dialogue, constructive and pragmatical dialogue,
04:02notamment through the visits of our ministers and members of our caucus in China,
04:09Ours is a long-standing relationship.
04:24Canada was one of the first Western nations to recognize China in 1970.
04:29Over many decades, Chinese Canadians have helped build communities in every part of our country,
04:37from dynamic small businesses to schools and hospitals,
04:40straight through to innovation across advanced technologies.
04:44All around China, there are Canadian companies such as Manuvie, CAE and the Montreal Banque de Montréal
04:52who do business in China for long time.
04:56Their presence here benefit so clearly to the Canadian economy.
05:02There are two million Canadians of Chinese descent, leaders across commerce, technology and culture.
05:27Mandarin is Canada's fourth most spoken language.
05:30There is much to protect in this relationship, and much on which to build, and much to be gained.
05:38So leveraging our strengths and focusing on areas of alignment, Canada and China,
05:43can create greater stability, security and prosperity for both our nations.
05:48And to that end, President Xi and I are announcing that Canada and China are forging a new strategic partnership.
05:55It will focus on five key areas where both our nations stand to make substantial and sustained gains.
06:04The first is in clean energy and climate competitiveness, areas where Canada and China have immense strengths and complementary strengths.
06:14Second, we're expanding trade, particularly in agriculture and food, where Canada is a reliable partner.
06:20Third, our commitment to multilateralism and strengthening global governance comes at a time when all of this is in flux.
06:29Fourth, we're deepening engagement in public safety and security to protect our peoples.
06:35And finally, people-to-people ties and culture are being enhanced to enrich our lives.
06:41To begin, we're leveraging our strengths in energy, clean tech and climate competitiveness.
06:48Canada is an energy superpower in both conventional and clean energies.
06:52We have an over 80 percent clean electricity grid with vast potential to power the clean economy of the future.
06:59China is the leader, the leader, the leader, the leader of the energy propres, producing more than 75 percent of all the batteries of electric vehicles and more than 80 percent of the solar panels and more than 60 percent of the world.
07:21Canada is the leader, the leader of the energy propres, and more than 80 percent of the energy propres.
07:41China's strengths in electric vehicle sector are undeniable.
07:47China produces some of the most affordable and efficient energy-efficient vehicles in the world.
07:54And in order for Canada to build our own competitive EV sector, we need to learn from innovative partners, access their supply chains, and increase local demand.
08:05And to help deliver the full potential of these partnerships and bring down costs for Canadians, Canada has agreed to allow up to 49,000 Chinese electric vehicles into the Canadian market, with the most favoured nation tariff rate of 6.1 percent.
08:23This is a return to the levels that existed prior to recent trade frictions, but it's a return under an agreement that promises much more for Canadians.
08:37It's expected that within three years, this agreement will drive considerable Chinese investment in Canada's auto sector, creating good careers in Canada and accelerating our progress towards a net-zero future and the auto industry of the future.
08:53With this agreement, it's also anticipated that within five years, more than 50 percent of these vehicles will be affordable EVs with an import price of less than $35,000.
09:07Over the next 15 years, Canada intends to double our energy grid through major investments in hydro, nuclear, solar, and wind power.
09:15That creates tremendous opportunities for Chinese partnerships in these investments, including in energy storage and offshore wind.
09:25On the other hand, Canada is developing our oil and natural gas reserves, one of the world's largest, to be the lowest risk, lowest cost, and lowest carbon.
09:34Last June, we exported our first LNG shipment to Asia, and we're scaling up quickly, making major investments and streamlining approvals.
09:43By 2030, Canada will produce 50 million tons of LNG each year, all of which will be destined for Asian markets.
09:51The second pillar of our strategic partnership aims to increase trade directly between Canada and China.
10:13For more than six decades, Canada has been a reliable partner for China in food exports.
10:27Canadians export more than $7 billion in agricultural products to China each year.
10:32China used to be the largest market for Canadian canola seed.
10:37We want to not just return to those levels, but to surpass them.
10:42And so I'm pleased today to announce that Canada and China have reached a preliminary but landmark trade agreement to remove trade barriers and reduce tariffs.
10:53By March 1, Canada expects that China will lower tariffs on Canadian canola seed to a combined rate of approximately 15 percent.
11:02China is a $4 billion canola seed market for Canadian producers.
11:06And this change represents a significant drop from the current combined tariff levels of 84 percent.
11:14Furthermore, Canada expects that Canadian canola meal as well as Canadian lobsters, crabs and peas will not be subject to relevant anti-discrimination tariffs from March 1 of this year until at least the end of this year.
11:27Together, these results will unlock nearly $3 billion of export orders for Canadian farmers, fish harvesters and processors as they realize the full potential of this market of 1.4 billion people.
11:41With this agreement, we also expect to see a resolution of many long-term obstacles for a range of important agricultural sectors from beef to pet food.
11:51We welcome Chinese business plans to significantly significantly.
11:53We welcome Chinese business plans to significantly increase our exports to China.
11:58in major clean energy projects, as well as in agriculture and consumer projects.
12:06And by building this new strategic partnership, we're creating the stability and certainty needed to catalyze new investments and opportunities for Canadian workers.
12:14Both Canada and China are strong advocates of multilateralism.
12:26We partageons plusieurs objectives in what is to treat the environment.
12:39Canada and China have created with success the world's goal for biodiversity and biodiversity.
12:42We share the stability and certainty needed to catalyze new investments and opportunities for Canadian workers.
12:46Both Canada and China are strong advocates of multilateralism.
12:51We are trying to create the sport to power for multilateralism.
12:53We are planning to create such a purpose.
12:54We are trying to create a potential project for COVID-19 modern planetary
13:08in order to cooperation with countries in the world's world's global mining.
13:11That's why our third pillar of our strategic partnership partnership is a renewed engagement toward the world's governance.
13:12While we are collaborating more, we are collaborating on Canada and China.
13:17se concentrer sur les nombreux domaines d'intérêt commun, allant de la compétitivité climatique
13:24et des finances à la stabilité macroéconomique et au multilateralisme.
13:31China will be the host of APEC this year, and Canada stands ready to support their agenda
13:38focused on strengthening and reinvigorating the multilateral system.
13:43Canada appreciates China's support for our bid to host the APEC Leaders Summit in 2029.
13:51The fourth pillar of our new strategic partnership is public safety and security, and this is
13:56an area where pragmatic and constructive engagement with China is crucial.
14:02Through this pillar, our law enforcement agencies will increase cooperation to better combat
14:08narcotics trafficking, transnational crime, cybercrime, synthetic drugs, and money laundering.
14:16And we will create safer communities for people in both our countries.
14:22And finally, people have always been at the core of this relationship.
14:26As I said, Canada is home to a Chinese diaspora of 2 million.
14:32Over 300,000 Chinese visitors came to Canada in 2024.
14:38China is Canada's seven largest source of tourism.
14:42So the fifth pillar of this partnership will build on opportunities for cultural exchanges
14:47and partnerships that further deepen our people-to-people ties.
14:52That means museums, digital content creators, visual artists, and other creative professionals
14:57in our respective countries will have new opportunities to collaborate.
15:02It also means more tourism, including following China's decision in November to grant approved
15:08destination status for group travelers to Canada.
15:12And we're building on this progress, looking to increase travel, exchange, and deepen our cultural
15:17ties.
15:18I'm very pleased to share that President Xi, in our meeting today, has committed to ensuring
15:23visa-free access for Canadians traveling to China.
15:28We are different countries.
15:40We have different systems, different histories, different perspectives.
15:44Yet, we have much in common.
15:47And when we focus on our strengths, and we focus our ambition towards those areas where we
15:52have the most in common, Canada and China have done great things.
15:58In the mid-1980s, our bilateral trade was roughly $2 billion.
16:02In just two decades, that increased to $30 billion.
16:07Through periods of global tension and disruption, we've created more opportunities for our workers,
16:11businesses, and investors by working together.
16:14And with this new strategic partnership, that's the opportunity before us now.
16:19It's a partnership that reflects the world as it is today, with an engagement that's realistic,
16:26respectful, and interest-based.
16:30The work in the recent months, the discussions in the meetings over the past two days have
16:35not been a question of putting things back on track.
16:38It's been more a question of designing new tracks that will benefit the people of both our countries.
16:44In a world of increasing uncertainty, Canada is building with speed, confidence, and determination.
17:05In a world of increasing uncertainty, Canada is building with speed, confidence, and determination.
17:13We're forging new partnerships around the world.
17:16We're diversifying trade over a dozen new agreements across four continents in recent months.
17:23We're attracting record levels of new investment in order to unleash $1 trillion of investment in the Canadian economy over the next five years.
17:31We're building a web of new connections with China to create transformative opportunities for Canadian workers,
17:40build more stability, more certainty, and prosperity on both sides of the Pacific.
17:46And with that, I very much look forward to your questions. Thank you very much. Merci beaucoup.
17:51Prime Minister, merci. Nous allons maintenant passer à la période de questions. First question, Tonda.
17:54We'll do one question, one follow-up.
17:57Tonda McCharles, Toronto Star. Right here, Prime Minister. Right here.
18:01How are you? Ah, there you are. Sorry.
18:03Hi.
18:04I'm in plain sight. Sorry.
18:06We're so many reporters here, so it'll be one question. We won't take follow-ups, but please bear with us.
18:14Prime Minister, this announcement, I'd like you to characterize it in terms of how big an entry into the market you expect it really is.
18:24And how do you intend to explain it to the U.S. in allowing that entry?
18:32And separately, how do you intend to explain it to Canadian car makers who fear any softening on Chinese EVs?
18:38Okay. So you mean the auto portion of the broader partner? Yes. Okay. So I think the first thing to say is exactly that, that it's part of a broader partnership.
18:47And the fundamental issue is we have a broader strategic partnership on which to build and create big opportunity.
18:55But to get to the auto question and your various questions around specifically, let's put this in context.
19:0149,000 vehicles, which is the cap on Chinese electric vehicle exports to Canada, that's part of this agreement, that's a return to levels last seen in 2023, the last full year before the Canadian tariff actions.
19:19That's the first point. Second point, again, to put it in dimensionate, that's less than 3% of the size of the Canadian auto market.
19:28The third point, to put in context, and I reference this, is that part of this agreement, and it takes a few years to build this, a couple of years to build this,
19:38that a portion, an increasing portion of those exports will be in a new segment of the Canadian market.
19:45In other words, electric vehicles that cost less than $35,000 at the landed price.
19:52So there's huge opportunity here to get more affordable cars in the electric vehicle market for Canada.
19:59The fourth element, and in many respects the most important element, is the beginning of discussions and expectation of Chinese investment in Canada and partnership in Canada to produce vehicles over time, so to partner with Canadian firms.
20:17And putting all this, and if I can take the last part of your question and move to colleagues, which is vis-a-vis the U.S., I think we need to look at this in the context of building.
20:28I mean, we're building a new part of our car industry, building cars of the future in partnership, bringing affordable autos for Canadians at a time when affordability is top of mind,
20:46and doing it, and doing it at a scale that allows for a smooth transition in the sector. Thanks.
20:56Next question, Steve.
20:58Steve Chase, Globe and Mail. Good afternoon.
21:02This week, two Liberal MPs cut short their visit to Taiwan. It was a friendship and outreach visit.
21:10They cut it short before they were going to meet with President William Lai.
21:14They said in a statement that they were advised to do this by the government.
21:18So why did the government advise these two Liberal MPs to cut short their visit, and is this an indication we're willing to tailor our foreign policy to placate Beijing?
21:30Well, a couple of things. One is our policy with respect to Taiwan, our One China policy, which was set in 1970, has not changed.
21:42We're reaffirming our One China policy. It remains constant. It's consistent.
21:48We have relations with the government here, the People's Republic of China, and we have people-to-people relations in Taiwan.
22:00Those MPs, members of my caucus, members of our caucus, participated in the people-to-people proportion of that trip.
22:09But no, not in the government proportion. And, you know, that's straightforward, not causing confusion about what the policy is of the government, the policy of Canada that has been the policy of liberal governments and the policy of conservative governments over the course of the last 55 years.
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22:53And it's the world as it is. It's the truth. It's the reality. And for Canada, we need to have relationships with great power, commercial relationships, but relationships that are calibrated to our interests and our values.
23:16Mais est-ce que la Chine est une puissance perturbatrice?
23:19Ce n'est pas mon objectif. Je n'étais pas un membre du gouvernement à ce moment-là.
23:25Donc vous n'êtes pas d'accord? Vous avez changé d'avis?
23:28Je n'étais pas là. Ce n'était pas mon avis, madame.
23:32Good afternoon, Prime Minister. Less than a year ago, you said that China was the biggest security threat to Canada. Do you still believe that?
23:40The security landscape continues to change. And in a world that's more dangerous and divided, we face many threats. That's the reality.
23:56And the job, my responsibilities as Prime Minister, the job of the government, is to manage those threats.
24:05You manage those threats by building resilience, building security. You manage those threats through alliances.
24:15And we're pursuing all of those. And I would say that, well, the threat environment has increased. The risks have multiplied. So, too, has our resilience and our engagement, which is protecting Canadians on balance.
24:36But is that threat from China still exists? I'll refer to my previous answer.
24:44Next question, Martina. Prime Minister Martina Stavis, New York Times. After your visit, is it fair to say that you're concluding that China is a more predictable and maybe reliable partner to Canada than the United States is today?
25:03Well, let me answer it. I'm going to answer it directly with respect to the relations with China and our engagement with China.
25:13And I will say that from the first conversation I had with Premier Li, telephone conversation, then the meeting in New York, the long meeting with President Xi in Korea, and then the meetings over the course of the last few days.
25:28There are a number of specific issues, and I've outlined them and where we've made progress in our strategic partnership. But we spent a fair bit of time in all of those meetings about the guardrails, if you will, of the relationship, where we felt we could cooperate, where we had differences of opinion, where we had differences of view in the system, respecting each other's differences in the system.
25:57And that sort of candid and consistent dialogue, frank dialogue, that leads to a more predictable and effective relationship.
26:06Our relationship – the one comparison I will give you with the United States, our relationship – this is no insight – is much more multifaceted, much deeper, much broader than it is with China.
26:18But yes, in terms of the way that our relationship has progressed in recent months with China, it is more predictable, and you see results coming from that.
26:35Can we talk about the previsibility?
26:36The previsibility?
26:37Yes, it is necessary to explain a little bit, because there are clear challenges for the cooperation between Canada and China.
26:56Yes, there are, yes, there are challenges, but they are also clear. And, by consequence, yes, the relations with China are more previsibles now than other relations for Canada.
27:13Next question.
27:14Mylène?
27:15Bonjour, Monsieur Carney.
27:16Bonjour, Madame.
27:17Mylène Crête de La Presse.
27:18Je voulais savoir, qu'est-ce que vous allez répondre à Doug Ford qui voulait une usine en échange de l'ouverture du marché canadien aux véhicules électriques chinois? Et pourquoi est-ce que les tarifs sur le port sont demeurés les mêmes?
27:33Je crois que je vais fournir une réponse sur la deuxième partie après. Mais ce qui est clair, on a fait beaucoup de progrès dans les produits agriculteurs et on a fait beaucoup de progrès.
28:02Et nous nous attendons qu'il y ait plus de réductions des tarifs d'agriculture pendant l'année. OK? Premier point. Deuxième point. En ce qui concerne Monsieur le Premier ministre Ford, nous deux, nous voulons bâtir
28:31une nouvelle industrie automobile. OK? Alors, c'est quoi l'avenir de l'industrie automobile? C'est des véhicules électriques et des véhicules avec beaucoup de technologies et d'abordabilité. Les trois choses. OK?
28:55Il y a plusieurs entreprises qui peuvent fournir, qui peuvent créer ces véhicules-ci, y compris les dirigeants chinois. Alors, pour une échange d'un petit morceau,
29:13un petit morceau du marché canadien, on a un engagement. Nous nous attendons un engagement d'investissement au Canada, des dirigeants, des vrais dirigeants de nouvelles industries. Alors, c'est un accord qui va créer l'avenir pour notre industrie.
29:40Donc, ça veut dire une usine, ça, éventuellement?
29:42Oui, ça c'est le plan. C'est le plan, absolument.
29:46Anne?
29:47Anne?
29:48Hello, Prime Minister Carney. CSIS has called China an enduring threat to Canadian tech and democracy,
29:54and some in the auto sector have said that Chinese EVs could pose national security risk if allowed into Canada.
29:59And your plan is to increase the number of those EVs that are coming into Canada every year.
30:03Did you get any assurances from President Xi that China would stay out of elections, for example,
30:08and sensitive sectors before allowing more Chinese investment in many sectors, including the auto sector?
30:13So, several aspects, thank you for the question, several aspects of what you said. The first is, and I'm going to refer to something I said a few minutes ago,
30:22which is we're returning to the levels of Chinese automobiles as a cap that we had two years ago, okay?
30:31Secondly, just to reinforce, that's less than 3% of the Canadian auto sector. So, again, let's keep that in, keep it in perspective.
30:38But that's going up by 6.5% every year after.
30:41Yeah, again, well, again, but in, you bring that, you compound that growth, and you're getting to about 70,000 vehicles at year five,
30:51although the agreement has it reviewed after year three. So, again, it's still in low single-digit proportion of the size of the Canadian auto sector.
31:00One point, Canadians buy about 1.8 million autos a year, just to put it in context.
31:05The second thing, but you asked, you had autos mentioned, but then you asked, if I may, a deeper question around our relations,
31:17and as you said, foreign interference, transnational aspects.
31:23The first thing I'd say is that part of the agreement includes a security aspect, greater cooperation between law enforcement on a series of cross-border crime issues.
31:36That's the kind of progress we need in order to address a range of issues, including illicit narcotics, but as well as interference.
31:45And then the second is that we have an understanding. These are some of the issues that we discuss in terms of our expectations in Canada,
31:55our red lines in terms of preventing foreign interference, not tolerating foreign interference, and addressing it when we see it.
32:03And as Prime Minister, I've always taken this extremely seriously, just from the point when I got my security clearance well before I was elected leader of the Liberal Party.
32:16Next question, Christopher.
32:17Good afternoon, Prime Minister. Christopher Nardi from the National Post.
32:21Canola tariffs are not completely disappearing, and more importantly, they're not disappearing on all products either.
32:28What do you say to the industry who is hoping, obviously, for progress on this, but will still be dealing with tariffs going forward in their second biggest export market?
32:36This is enormous progress. The first thing is, this is enormous progress.
32:39We're dropping the expectations starting from March 1st, so in advance of planting, we're seeing canola tariffs.
32:48We fully expect canola tariffs to drop from 85 percent to a combined 15 percent, approximately 15 percent.
32:56I'll use the exact language in the agreement, but we have a high degree of confidence that that's going to happen,
33:03and that's going to create an opportunity combined between meal and seed, a $7 billion market opportunity.
33:12That's the first point.
33:14The second is that the spirit of this agreement.
33:19So there's agreements and technical aspects of the agreement, and expecting those to be followed.
33:24That's important.
33:25But it's also the spirit of what is a new partnership, a new era, turning the corner, historic agreement, building more broadly.
33:36That creates a series of expectations about where we're going from here, whether it's in canola, other grains, pulses, lobster, beef, pork, pet food, all these are covered.
33:52So there's movement, and there's a real – it's a return, and actually more than a return, to Canada as an important agriculture partner with China.
34:01Next question.
34:02Brian?
34:03Prime Minister, Brian Platt with Bloomberg News.
34:07Yesterday when you met with Premier Li, one of the things you said in the public remarks was this partnership with Canada and China,
34:15this new partnership sets us up well for the new world order.
34:18What did you mean by that?
34:20What is the new world order?
34:21Well, this is – it's a great question, Brian, because I think the world is still determining what that order is going to be.
34:28And let's be clear what we're talking about first and foremost, which is what are the trading – what is going to govern global trade?
34:36What is the role of the WTO going to be?
34:39How important are bilateral deals such as the one we're developing, plurilateral deals – if I can use that term – trans-Pacific partnership, the potential linkages between trans-Pacific partnership and the EU?
34:55Where is financial regulation, payment system regulation going to fit into that?
35:00All of these aspects – I'm going to use a fancy word – like the architecture, the multilateral system that has been developing these is being eroded, to use a polite term, undercut, to use another term.
35:17So the question is, what gets built in that place?
35:20How much of a patchwork is it?
35:22How much is it just on a bilateral basis?
35:24Or where do you like-minded countries in certain areas?
35:29So like-minded countries, just to be clear, doesn't mean you agree on everything.
35:33So aspects, for example, on digital trade or agricultural trade.
35:40Climate finance is another area.
35:43To move into areas of geostrategy, geosecurity, you will have different coalitions that are formed.
35:53So what this partnership does is in areas, for example, of clean energy, conventional energy, agriculture, as we were just talking about, and financial services, which we've talked less about.
36:09But the evolution of the global financial system, the role of the renminbi over time, the evolution of cross-border payments – I know it all sounds very dry, except for your organization, which I think takes an interest in it.
36:22So these are important elements of how the system is going to work.
36:27And look, the expectation is that rather than these being developed necessarily through the IMF, WTO, and other multilateral organizations, it is going to be coalitions that develop them, not for the world, but for subsectors of the world.
36:47Okay.
36:48Next question.
36:49Tom?
36:50Hi, Prime Minister.
36:51Tom Perry with CBC.
36:52I know that you're talking about China offering stability.
36:54There are still, of course, though, concerns in this country about human rights, about freedom of expression.
36:59I'm wondering where those fit into your calculations.
37:01Are these things that Canada just can't afford to think about because we've got to diversify our markets?
37:07No.
37:08Look, we fundamentally stand up for human rights.
37:13We stand up for democracy, territorial integrity, rights to self-determination.
37:19We take the world as it is, not as we wish it to be.
37:25That means the following.
37:28We do engage with countries.
37:30We calibrate that engagement, depending on our values and our interests, so that engagement is more narrow when there are those issues.
37:41We also have, if you will, a sort of value-based realism to the approach.
37:49In other words, we will engage on those issues.
37:52We'll engage with coalitions on those issues because that has more influence.
37:59And we will form coalitions with those countries with which we share those broader values.
38:08I will give you a current example of the last point, which is we are a member, as you know, of the Coalition of the Willing to Back Ukraine.
38:18And that is an example.
38:20Those countries in that coalition, over 30 countries, share values on a broad range, including all of those that I just mentioned.
38:29With other countries, our engagement is more narrow, it's more specific, and we keep within those guardrails.
38:38And for those relationships, we're very clear about where we will cooperate, where we differ.
38:44We'll have those engagements, but in a way that looks to make progress.
38:48Can I just ask you a follow-up?
38:49In your meetings over the last couple of days, did any of these issues come up?
38:53Yes.
38:54Could you be a little more specific?
38:57That was your follow-up.
38:58I guess so.
38:59How did you discuss that in your…
39:01We're going to move on to the next question here.
39:03How did you discuss that in your questions?
39:04Oui.
39:05We're going to move to the next question right after.
39:06En français, oui.
39:07En français, en…
39:08Nous avons eu des questions sur le sujet des droits humains, oui?
39:16Next question.
39:17Maria.
39:18Thanks.
39:19Maria Chang from Reuters.
39:20Just for a follow-up, can you tell us specifically how you raised these concerns about human rights?
39:27Did you address the issue of things like Jimmy Lai, concerns about Taiwan, violations of human rights in China in your discussions with President Xi?
39:36A couple of things. One is, with respect to Mr. Lai, Canada led a G7 statement in the
39:43course of recent weeks calling for his humanitarian release, a foreign minister's statement.
39:51These issues were raised in our broader discussions over the past few days. With respect to One
40:00China and Taiwan and expectations of our longstanding policy, I think I answered this earlier, but
40:05just to be clear that we had a clear exchange in terms of what our policy is and a reaffirmation
40:11of, as I say, our longstanding policy. We have different systems. Take a step back.
40:20We have different systems, Canada and China. That has several consequences, one of which
40:27is the breadth of our engagement with China.
40:32We respect the differences in each other's systems. It does mean that our cooperation
40:39is more focused and more limited. But to have the effective relationship, we have the direct
40:45conversations. We don't grab a megaphone and have the conversations that way.
40:51MS. And we'll have time for one last question, Kyle. Or David.
40:54David Aiken, Global News. Good afternoon, Prime Minister. I got shoved to the front here.
41:01I'd like to know what Canada is doing to protect the integrity of Greenland. And related, China
41:08fashions itself a near-Arctic power and with some claims to Arctic resources. So I wonder
41:15if you could answer that question. What we're doing to help protect Greenland's integrity and
41:19how do you feel about China's claims such as they are to Arctic resources?
41:23MR. Well, several aspects of that. The first, with respect to Greenland, Greenland, the future
41:32of Greenland is a decision for Greenland and for the Kingdom of Denmark. We are NATO partners
41:39with Denmark. And so our full partnership stands. Our obligations on Article 5, Article 2 of NATO
41:47stand. And we stand fuller square behind those. Thirdly, with respect to our relations with
41:54Greenland, as you know, we've opened our consulate. As you may know, the Governor General is visiting
42:02with the Minister of Foreign Affairs. There she is. No rest for you. Going to NUC in the
42:10first week of February. We'll be there. We're in discussions with our NATO partners and with
42:17Denmark about Arctic security through various fora, through bilaterally with Greenland and
42:25very much with Denmark, through the Nordic countries, Nordic Baltic Gate. And as you know, just
42:33remind others that we've taken decisive steps in terms of Arctic security over the course of this
42:40year. One of the first things that I did as Prime Minister was to move our Arctic presence from four
42:48months a year to 365 days a year on land, sea and in air. And we will continue to reinforce that.
42:59I will say that I had discussions with President Xi about the situation in Greenland, about our
43:08sovereignty in the Arctic, about the sovereignty of the people of Greenland and the people of Denmark.
43:15And I found much alignment of views in that regard.
43:20And in what he has concerned about Greenland, in what he has concerned about Greenland, the
43:27position canadien in Greenland, the future of Greenland and the country is a decision for Greenland and Denmark.
43:44Okay?
43:45Premier point.
43:46Deuxième point.
43:47Nous sommes des alliés.
43:48Nous sommes des alliés dans l'OTAN et le Canada est ferme, est clair.
43:52Nous avons des obligations, des engagements comme un partenaire dans un allié, comme
43:57un allié dans l'OTAN par rapport au Greenland et le Denmark et nous allons respecter nos
44:05engagements.
44:06Et nous, nous attendons que les autres membres de l'OTAN respectent leurs engagements.
44:14Peut-être ça suffit.
44:15Merci.
44:16C'était la même.
44:17Non, c'est une courte transaction.
44:24We respect our obligations and our responsibilities in NATO, and we expect all NATO partners to
44:30do the same.
44:32This puts an entire press conference.
44:33C'est ce qu'il m'a fait à notre conférence de presse.
44:34Merci.
44:35Merci beaucoup.
44:36Ouf.
44:37Should've brought some gloves.
44:44Merci.
45:11Merci, public сказать.
45:14You
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