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00:00Now, back to Will and Dibby on 95-7, the game.
00:22Hypothetical.
00:23Okay.
00:25Niners don't score on that play.
00:28What do you do, hotshot?
00:30What do you do?
00:31What do you do, hotshot?
00:34Fourth and three.
00:37From the three.
00:39Down three.
00:42A little bit under three to go.
00:44What do you do?
00:46I'm going to channel my inner Rocky from Rocky III when Clubber Lang says,
00:51I'm going to bust you up.
00:53And what does Rocky say?
00:55Go for it.
00:56You go for it.
00:58You go for it.
01:00Philly's got three timeouts.
01:02And if you kick it, although you are going with the wind, so I like your chances.
01:07But, you know, the Niners at that point had, they have two timeouts left, I think.
01:12They burned one early.
01:13When John yelled at Kendrick, because Kendrick wasn't lined up right.
01:16That was second half.
01:17I thought so.
01:19Yeah.
01:20I can't remember.
01:21I'm seeing one timeout here on my sheet.
01:23I think you're right.
01:24I think you're right.
01:25You know, you go for it.
01:26You don't get it.
01:27They're going into the wind.
01:29And you're down three.
01:30Philly's got three timeouts.
01:32You've got two timeouts and the two-minute warning.
01:34You like your chances to get the ball back with the wind.
01:37Eddie Pinero from deep.
01:38You still have a crack to tie it.
01:40I go for it.
01:42Yeah, they had two timeouts left.
01:43Thank you, Grandy.
01:44Okay.
01:45Poof.
01:47Well, and some people were wondering why the Niners didn't go for two.
01:50When they scored that touchdown, because you would go up six, in theory, if you get it,
01:57which at least makes the Eagles have to execute the extra point if they were to get a touchdown.
02:03My thought was, Kyle's thinking to himself, get to 24-19, so that if the Eagles do score,
02:11maybe there's still time on the clock and a field goal would win it as opposed to tying it.
02:19Unless Philly goes for two, and they get it.
02:23All of that stuff.
02:24All of the permutations and whatnot go into it.
02:28I don't know which was the winning one, but they went for one, and it didn't matter because they didn't get that either.
02:33Right.
02:34Which, I mean, Eddie just straight yanked it.
02:37Yeah, you know.
02:37It wasn't like Elliott's miss where he kicked it, and he thought the wind was going to push it back,
02:41and you could see he's looking around like, come on, where's the wind?
02:44Eddie, I was just a straight, like, four left.
02:47Every now and again, he just gags an extra point.
02:49He'll make his field goals, though.
02:51Right.
02:51That was like being on the tee, and you've been hitting it great all day,
02:55and you get up to 16, and all of a sudden, now I'm going to yank one left?
02:58Where did that come from?
02:59It happens, right?
03:00Yeah.
03:00What about the fourth and two decision late in the second quarter,
03:04with a little less than three to go in the second, down 13-7,
03:08fourth and two from the Philly 18, the decision to just take the three points
03:12as opposed to going forward on fourth and two?
03:13I liked it.
03:17I liked the decision.
03:19That was one of those where I was kind of like, I felt kind of 50-50 on it
03:24in terms of just, I wonder what Kyle's going to do.
03:27But when he kicks the field goal, I don't know, man.
03:32This is the way my brain usually works.
03:34It's like, in the first half, when you get those points,
03:39the second the field goal goes through, I'm like, all right, that was probably smart.
03:43That was probably smart.
03:44You know what I mean?
03:45It's kind of like whenever you're at the Vegas casino,
03:48and you run out of money, and you look at the ATM,
03:51and you're like, um, like, yeah, let's go for it.
03:57Let's go for it.
03:57And then, like, then you regret it.
04:00Leaving and going back to the hotel room, that's the field goal,
04:05and it doesn't feel good when you're doing it,
04:07but when you get back to the room, you're like, you know what?
04:10I think that was a pretty good decision.
04:11That's kind of how I felt about that.
04:13I like the analogy, especially if it's an inebriation sensation.
04:17If it's 1.17 in the morning, and you've been gambling all day,
04:22and you're not down a lot, you're still in it.
04:24You're still in it if you go to the room,
04:26and you get to come back tomorrow, the second half of your gambling trip.
04:30Let's go to Dibs, half in the bag.
04:31You know what I'm saying?
04:32I think I called in once.
04:34There's rumors that I called in.
04:35That trip's coming up, by the way.
04:36We're inside of 10 weeks.
04:38But I think that the circumstance has to be accounted for,
04:42because on that drive, Kittle gets hurt, Jawan the big play,
04:46and then third down and one from the 17, Purdy, your guy, trips McCaffrey.
04:53Mean-spirited? Unnecessary.
04:56I think if that third and one play goes for nothing, and now it's fourth and one,
05:00maybe it's different.
05:01When you lose a yard because McCaffrey gets tripped and it's fourth and two,
05:05at that point I think you're thinking, we just lost Kittle.
05:08We can still get three here.
05:09Let's just take the three.
05:10My Sunday partner has gotten to me on this one.
05:13Ephraim on the Fox show, who is...
05:16Your side piece.
05:16Yeah, exactly.
05:17He's the other guy.
05:18But anyway, don't tell him I said that.
05:19But anyway, he's a longtime offensive lineman in the league,
05:24and he's told me, you've got to understand that when...
05:26Just so you know, I'm nobody's side piece, okay?
05:29I'm the main course.
05:30Actually, got to give him some love,
05:32because last night he took care of the first 45 minutes of the show by himself.
05:36Wow.
05:37Yeah.
05:37We had some...
05:39Technical difficulties.
05:40Let's just call them technical difficulties.
05:42I know, Lucas, I'll tell you the whole story later.
05:44We had some technical difficulties that actually allows me an opportunity.
05:48Let me just take a moment and say hello and thank you to everybody at Copa Ayazeta.
05:55And it turns out, you know the Ayazeta family well.
05:59Oh, yeah.
06:00It's a longtime principal at Marin Catholic.
06:02His family has fingerprints all over the school and the area.
06:07And just last year, they opened up a wine bar.
06:09And I know why...
06:10You hear wine bar and you go, oh, oh, wine bar.
06:13Let's put...
06:14No, this is a wine bar with a massive big screen TV right over the heads of everybody that's pouring the wine.
06:21So, they ended up with an unbelievable Hail Mary of help last night to get me on the air.
06:29And then we ended up sitting with them and getting to know them and drinking some wine late into the evening yesterday.
06:35Unbelievable family.
06:38Incredible wines.
06:39It's right on the Sonoma Square there.
06:41Copa Ayazeta.
06:42Go say hi to them.
06:44You will thank me later.
06:46You will thank them.
06:47All of it.
06:48It's a really, really good establishment.
06:49So, go check it out.
06:50Their hospitality was unbelievable last night.
06:53Yeah, he was a good principal.
06:54Nice guy a lifetime ago.
06:56Bill Ayazeta.
06:57Bill Ayazeta.
06:58Yeah.
06:58I don't think it's Ayazeta.
06:59I think it's just Ayazeta.
07:00No, am I saying it wrong?
07:02You are.
07:02Ayazeta.
07:03Yeah.
07:03I don't mean to put an A in there.
07:05Never forget Ayazeta.
07:07That's Mazeta who also...
07:08That's Mazeta.
07:09I went to high school with Mazeta and our principal was Ayazeta.
07:13Which makes it better.
07:14Yeah.
07:14It was more better.
07:16Yeah.
07:16Totally.
07:17And same thing with Copa Ayazeta.
07:19Right.
07:19Yeah.
07:20Ayazeta.
07:20Ayazeta.
07:20That's what I'm saying.
07:22Copa Ayazeta.
07:23There you go.
07:24That's what I said.
07:25You've been saying Aya.
07:26That's just...
07:26Like Lee Ayacocca.
07:27That's just me with my swag.
07:29Chris Ayaneta?
07:30Yeah.
07:31No.
07:31That's well done.
07:32Makes it better.
07:33Exactly.
07:34Evan is probably driving to the office right now.
07:37He's like, you guys are absolutely crushing my read.
07:39Anyway.
07:39Thank you, Bill.
07:40Thank you, Copa Ayazeta.
07:42That place was just...
07:44Oh, my gosh.
07:45Good people.
07:46Ephraim's been getting to you.
07:47That's the point of the story.
07:48Ephraim says that when you, as an offense, when you do the hard thing and you move the
07:57ball all the way down the field, and then you get nothing, it's demoralizing.
08:04Yeah.
08:05It crushes you.
08:06So, I know that there's always a fancy play call coming from the sideline.
08:12But Liam Cohen and Sean McVay and Ben Johnson, and I know two of the three of you won over
08:18the weekend.
08:19But I'm talking to you.
08:21Don't do that.
08:22Don't do that.
08:23It usually, to me, I don't care what your analytics say, but they leave context out of it all
08:31the time.
08:32I think it costs more people games than the other way around.
08:35Because analytically, you can't really track it.
08:38It's like, when the Bills beat the Jags 27-24 and Josh Allen is doing 10-yard quarterback
08:43sneaks, does anybody think about the fact that early in the second quarter when it's
08:497-3, and it's 4th and 2 at the 9, you opted not to kick 3.
08:55I don't know if that, that was the first thought that goes through my head.
08:58Yep.
08:59Those are points you could have had, most likely.
09:00The game script changes, so I know you can't just go, well, then you would have had 3 more.
09:04I don't know what would have happened next.
09:06But I just think, I think you kick yourself in the shin too often when you do that.
09:11It just depends on more than what the book says, and that's where analytics to me always
09:16fall short because you have to worry about the human beings.
09:19Like Ephraim is saying, you know, if you're an offensive lineman and you're out there battling
09:23and now we're going to get nothing, you're going to be a little bit bummed.
09:26And the other piece of it, outside of the fact that Purdy tripped McCaffrey and so you
09:30lose a yard, at that point, McCaffrey had 7 carries for 9 yards.
09:35You're not running the ball effectively.
09:37And you don't have George Kittle, who would be a great red zone piece to have on a 4th and
09:422 in that spot, and a great blocker if you chose to run it.
09:46So you lose a yard, now you need to, you don't have Kittle and you haven't run it at all,
09:51and a field goal brings you within 3.
09:53That, to me, was the right call, and it took Shanahan a little extra time.
09:57He had to call timeout, and I don't know if somebody, you know, got to him and stuff
10:00and said, Kyle, let's kick it, or maybe, you know, they were trying to push him to go.
10:05I wonder what that conversation was like.
10:07Because you don't often use a timeout and change your mind.
10:10It's a timeout so that we can come up with the play of, hey, Eddie, kick ball straight.
10:14Right.
10:14Yeah.
10:15That's, like, you're right.
10:16That's not normally what you do.
10:17The timeout suggests we're going for it so we can talk it over.
10:20But that's not what they did, and I just think it's the playoffs, man.
10:24Points are at such a premium.
10:26You've got to be real, real sure, or real, real careful about the idea of letting at least
10:33the opportunity for 3 go.
10:34I know sometimes you pick the 3, and then the kicker goes out there and misses it,
10:38and then you really want to punch yourself in the face.
10:40You know, talk to the Packers.
10:41They're out there kicking, and they just kept missing the darn thing.
10:44But, like, that's, I think points.
10:49Points, man.
10:49Points are important, you know, so let's do points when you can.
10:53Yeah, and I also think, just based on the way the game was kind of going,
10:56that you hadn't yet stopped Philadelphia cold in their tracks yet.
11:01The second half, you did a bunch of 3 and outs.
11:03But in that spot, you don't want to, you know, go for it, not get it,
11:06and then they strike again.
11:07And all of a sudden, now you're down 22-7.
11:10Yeah, and now you're in trouble.
11:11And in the locker room, now you're chasing it.
11:13Yeah.
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11:25All right.
11:26More phones.
11:27Let's do it.
11:27And, oh, I promise, Philmo Mike, but let's take Earl on 580 first
11:33because I think they might be attached.
11:34Hi, Earl.
11:35What's going on?
11:39Earl, are you there?
11:42Earl.
11:43Man, that's...
11:43I was on mute.
11:44Yeah, I was in here.
11:45What happened?
11:45Come on, man.
11:45Just in time, Earl.
11:46Wow, that was a buzzer beater.
11:48Hi, Earl.
11:48Buzzer beater for real.
11:50No, happy Victory Monday, y'all.
11:51I don't even know where to start, man.
11:53What a game.
11:54Um, I really, you might not remember, but I called a couple weeks ago
11:58after we beat the Bears, and the conversation was why we were still
12:02feeling confident about this team moving forward.
12:04Obviously, it was before we got dominated by Seattle last week,
12:07but what I shouted out was our defense being able to bend and not break,
12:12right, and keep us in the game.
12:14And I was listening to the pregame show with Evan Gidding before the game,
12:19and Philmo Mike called in.
12:20It's not about him calling Philly radio, but he called in,
12:22and he made a prediction.
12:23He shouted out Upton Stout.
12:24He said, I think that Upton Stout was going to make a big play at some point
12:27in this game.
12:28And granted, it was early, but that first fourth down stop that we got,
12:31who was it?
12:32None other than Upton Stout with the pass break up.
12:34So I just wanted to shout out Philmo Mike because he really be knowing this
12:36stuff, and I know he gave the Philly radio hell after we won.
12:40But, uh, y'all, like, what are we really talking about here, man?
12:44Like, Philly wasn't ready.
12:45I know that if they could have circled the defense to try to shake back from
12:50this slump that they've been in on offense for the last few weeks,
12:52it probably would have been ours.
12:53Nobody expected the 49ers defense depleted, starting Garrett Wallow and
12:58Curtis Robinson and the likes of the others to go in there and hold them to
13:01less than 20 points.
13:02We kept Saquon bottled up for the most part, kept him out of the end zone.
13:06And again, man, like, forcing them to kick field goals instead of getting
13:09touchdowns was a huge key.
13:11And I feel like if the defense can just continue to do that, just make sure that
13:15they don't make any costly errors, no costly mistakes, no costly penalties.
13:18If Brock's going to keep balling, you know, sky's the limit, bro.
13:22I don't know who we're going to lose to, but I say we go into Seattle, and I think
13:25we go take a lunch, for real.
13:27We learned a lot from last week, and Brock's going to keep this streak rolling of
13:31these road playoff wins.
13:33You know, he's going on a revenge tour.
13:34He got it in Philly.
13:35I think he goes into Seattle and gets it done next week, bro.
13:38But yeah, shout-out to y'all, and let's keep it going, baby.
13:41Earl, thanks, man.
13:42Appreciate that.
13:42I will say this, like, and we got all week to get to it, so I'll just keep it to
13:46one sentence.
13:47I do think this week's game against Seattle is going to look different than last
13:51week's game against Seattle.
13:52I would hope so.
13:53I'll just leave that there.
13:55Yeah, well, the offense is going to have 71.
13:58You're not going to have 85, unfortunately, but you will have the big fella.
14:02And I think that the game in general is going to look different on both sides.
14:06Seattle left a lot of meat on the bone themselves with a fourth down failure and
14:11two missed field goals, so we'll get all the way into it, but I would predict it's
14:14not going to be 14-3 again.
14:16We can start with that.
14:17Yeah, yeah.
14:18I'll take the Niners over on three points.
14:21All right.
14:21Cuckooch.
14:22Yeah, Cuckooch.
14:23George Kittle just posted something on Instagram.
14:25We're going to read it for you in a moment, but we promised you the film I might call,
14:28the WIP, and Earl just referenced it.
14:31So, let's let you hear it.
14:33This is earlier today.
14:34Sister Station WIP, our own Fillmore Mike.
14:38He goes out there and he gets them.
14:40I guess we've got to take his call.
14:41Fillmore Mike, the Niners fan, is up.
14:44Mike?
14:45Hey, man.
14:46How y'all doing, man?
14:47Not good.
14:48I've been on hold for hours.
14:49Not good.
14:49For hours.
14:50It's all good.
14:51Hours and 15 minutes.
14:52I can't.
14:53I mean, I had to make you hold for a while.
14:55If we're being honest, nobody wants to hear from you today.
14:58You said if we're being honest.
14:59Hey, man.
14:59It's all good.
15:00It's all love, but y'all going to hear this sermon because your fans, your staff, I love
15:07Hugh Douglas.
15:08I love you, Joe.
15:09For real, for real.
15:10But John Johnson going to say last night, he going to say Brock Purdy is his system quarterback.
15:17If he's a system quarterback, what is Jalen Hurts?
15:20Jalen Hurts has regressed.
15:22Why?
15:23Because of bad coaching.
15:24Why did I call him Friday?
15:25There's no passport office today, baby.
15:27You're going to hear the real film on my Friday when I called Friday when I called.
15:32What did I say?
15:33Your coach sucks.
15:34He's regressed.
15:35Jalen Hurts is a solid player.
15:37But because your coaching sucks, he's regressed.
15:40Right?
15:41The NFC East, NFC Leafs.
15:43They're soft.
15:44The whole division.
15:45You guys talk about our schedule.
15:46You guys play the Giants and the Commanders two times out of the year.
15:50Meanwhile, we play in the Rams.
15:51We play in the Seahawks.
15:53Teams that really be hitting hard and really be playing.
15:56And then I just got to give a shout out to Meryl Reese.
15:58He's class personified.
16:00I swear to God, I love Meryl Reese.
16:02I did enjoy listening to his conversation because that's class personified.
16:06Now, Brock Purdy, way better than Jalen Hurts.
16:11Way better than Jalen Hurts.
16:13And I got a new name for Nick Sirianni.
16:15Nick Sirianni, baby.
16:17Nick Sirianni.
16:18You need to replace the Jordan emoji with his face.
16:22He's a horrible coach.
16:23Could you imagine Digford Mill, Bill Walsh running down there,
16:27yelling at Mike Quick or Jerry Rice or John Taylor's face?
16:30Even Andy Reid.
16:32Come on, man.
16:32Well, yeah.
16:33Come on, man.
16:34And it's annoying because I wish I could disagree with you on that.
16:37I can't.
16:38I didn't like that either.
16:39Mike, I guess we appreciate the call.
16:41I guess.
16:42I mean, what can you do?
16:43All right, then, Mike, have a good one.
16:45Yeah, screw that guy.
16:48What can you do?
16:50What can you do?
16:51Well, start by getting my damn R out of his name.
16:53It's not Fillmore Mike.
16:55Let's go to Fillmore Mike.
16:58Fill-mo-Mike.
17:00Mo-money.
17:01Mo-money.
17:03Mo-money.
17:05That's the way to do that.
17:07And props to the two hosts on that station for allowing Mike to say it.
17:12Give him his piece.
17:13That's absolutely the right thing to do.
17:15And he called on Friday.
17:16And so he calls back and lets him know, gives him a recap.
17:20And this whole thing about system quarterback, I don't know why it triggers people so much.
17:25I think that people hear that and they think, oh, that's disrespectful.
17:29They're all system quarterbacks.
17:30Every quarterback runs a system, and if they run it well with good players and good play calling, they do well.
17:37And if you run a system that's a bad system with bad players, you're still a system quarterback.
17:43It's just your team stinks.
17:44That's all.
17:45It doesn't really bug me, but I understand that people think that you're saying that,
17:50and what you're saying is that Brock Purdy's only good because of Kyle Shanahan.
17:54That's what you're saying.
17:55Well, I mean, hmm.
17:58Okay.
17:59Is Matt Stafford only good because of Sean McVay?
18:03He never went to the playoffs when he was with the Lions.
18:06Ever?
18:07Nope.
18:07Wow.
18:09I mean, yeah, he's a system quarterback.
18:11He put up numbers.
18:12He put up numbers.
18:13Our guy Rob Parker, he's the one who nicknamed him Stat Padford, which is a funny nickname.
18:22What's he supposed to do?
18:22Like, you're always trailing.
18:24Well, that's right.
18:24You're in Detroit.
18:26You're always trailing, and Barry Sanders is gone.
18:28You're going to have to throw the ball all the time.
18:30Why don't I – I would love – and take Brock out of it if you want.
18:34I would love for the quarterback discussion to start leaning into common sense a little bit more.
18:42Stafford did go to the playoffs three times with the Lions.
18:44Okay, never won a game.
18:45Never won a game.
18:45Never won a game.
18:46That's what – thank you for that correction.
18:47Yeah.
18:48Never, never won a game.
18:49But the whole thing needs – because, by the way, my point wasn't to say that Matt Stafford wasn't good prior to going to the Rams.
18:56I wanted him on the Niners.
18:57You could – and this is what I'm getting at.
19:00Like, it's common sense.
19:02You can watch football, and you can see the guys.
19:05It doesn't mean they don't make mistakes.
19:06It doesn't mean they don't make boneheaded throws.
19:08And it doesn't mean that, by the way, if a coaching staff and a team are having discord, that quarterback is going to suffer.
19:15My favorite example to always use, and he's talked about it on this show, is what Kurt Warner looked like with the Rams and Cardinals.
19:23But in between the two, the middle of the sandwich was he went to the New York Giants and looked like a joke.
19:28Yeah.
19:29And he's a Hall of Famer.
19:30But it's very easy, actually, to see.
19:35And if you want to rank them, that's fine.
19:36I'm not talking about rank them.
19:37I'm just talking about whether you've got a good one or whether you don't.
19:41And if you've got somebody that wins a lot of games, if you've got someone that gets a lot more touchdowns than interceptions,
19:49if you've got someone who commands a huddle and goes out there and, more often than not, is able to function within a team concept,
19:59if you've got one of those, then do some Hail Marys and thank the damn whatever you want to pray to that you've got one.
20:06Because life in the NFL is hell when you don't have one.
20:10And there's a lot of teams that don't.
20:12And the Niners aren't one of them.
20:14They've got their guy.
20:16Is he the best?
20:17No.
20:18No, he's not the best.
20:19But he's really good.
20:21He doesn't have to be the best.
20:23And he just has to be as good as he can with Kyle Shanahan and in his system.
20:27And I'm thinking about Jared Goff and system quarterbacking because his rookie year he had Jeff Fisher and John Fossil.
20:35He was bad.
20:36They were worse.
20:37Then Sean McVay shows up.
20:38All of a sudden, Jared, they go 11-5, and he progressively looks better.
20:42Then he starts to look a little shaky, whatever, off to Detroit.
20:46Got a great offensive coordinator.
20:47And now all of a sudden he's great again.
20:49There we go.
20:49And he's putting up MVP-type numbers.
20:51And the example I've been using all year is Trevor Lawrence.
20:54All of a sudden, this year, he looked better.
20:56He still doesn't look amazing, but he looked better with a new offensive-minded head coach and got his team to the playoffs.
21:03So he's a system quarterback.
21:04They're all system quarterbacks.
21:07And Jalen Hurts' system got all messed up this year.
21:10Right.
21:11For a bunch of reasons that some might have to do with him, and a lot of them I know don't.
21:16Right.
21:16So why was Philadelphia's offense not as good as last year?
21:19They had the center retire.
21:21They had more injuries, and their coordinator forgot that Saquon Barkley's really good.
21:26Well, and I do think, and again, this is one of my top ten questions for the Niners moving forward.
21:33Like, Kristen McCaffrey had all kinds of touches this year.
21:36And I wonder what that's going to mean next year for Kristen McCaffrey.
21:39Last year, Saquon Barkley got all the touches.
21:42Does he look as spry to you this year as he did last year?
21:45He does not to me.
21:46No.
21:46Part of that is the offensive line.
21:49Part of that is the play calling.
21:51Part of that is Saquon himself.
21:53It's always, as you say, complimentary.
21:56Add it all up.
21:57And no, they're not as good.
21:59They're not as good.
22:01They're still good, though.
22:02Yeah, and he sure looked good early in the game last night.
22:04He sure did.
22:05As he was getting tote after tote.
22:07And as I mentioned earlier, seven carries for 35 yards.
22:11Or no, 11 carries for 35, I believe, after halftime.
22:15So the Niners were able to bottle him up.
22:16Yep, yep.
22:17I mean, yeah, he's still good.
22:18He still had a good year.
22:20I know the fantasy community wanted to absolutely, you know, kick him in the butt.
22:24Like, I mean, because of where you drafted him or whatever.
22:28But, like, he had over 1,000 yards.
22:30And he's still a very good player.
22:33But no, it did not work as well.
22:35I mean, think about, what if we assessed running backs the way we assess quarterbacks?
22:40What would you say about Saquon Barkley this year?
22:42Well, he's a system running back.
22:43Actually, it turns out he's not that good.
22:46Right.
22:46Okay.
22:47And, well, and you can look at most running backs, and they either have really good offensive lines,
22:55really good coaches and quarterbacks and coordinators, or they're just anomalies.
23:00Like, I don't know, Derrick Henry, for example.
23:02Yeah.
23:03He's going to get 1,500 yards no matter who he runs behind.
23:05Dude.
23:06That was a big boy.
23:07He's going to say.
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