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00:00This show is a spoiler sensation, so if you haven't watched episode 4 of The Traitors yet, go and watch it now, and then come back to join us for more deception, drama, and druids.
00:11Coming up, we'll be discussing the shock reveal of the secret traitor's identity.
00:16The latest player to be banished, Ross, is with us to dissect the surprise roundtable and the secret he's been keeping this whole time.
00:22Plus, we're about to have our first face-to-face murder, which I'm going to unpick in detail with superfans Angela Scanlon and Max Belegde, Series 1 traitor Wilf, and Series 2 faithful term traitor Miles.
00:39We have to start with the biggest revelation of the series so far. Fiona is the secret traitor. Your reactions to that?
00:47Little red riding water.
00:48With a little basket and everything. She's welcome.
00:53It is, of course, Fiona. I mean, I was willing it to be Fiona.
00:58From episode 1, I was like, please let it be Fiona.
01:01Did any of us suspect that it was Fiona? Angela, did you have any suspicions?
01:05I had, like, hopes that it would be Fiona, because she's so unassuming.
01:10I mean, obviously, everyone was like, oh, she's playing a good game, being a bit ditzy and kind of clueless, as if that was a pretense.
01:17But I thought, oh, that's actually quite an obvious kind of line to tread.
01:20But I just love her voice and her insight and how sweet she looks outside.
01:28And then she sits in that chair and she's like, they haven't seen me coming.
01:33She's like rubbing her hands together.
01:35She's a beast and I love it.
01:37I love it.
01:37Yeah. What about you, Max? Did you suspect?
01:39I suspected her when she was in the car and she brought up Rachel's name.
01:43Because up until that point, nobody had really suspected Rachel.
01:46And then out of nowhere, she brings it up.
01:48But she didn't try too hard.
01:49And I thought, you know something, you love.
01:51You know. And she did.
01:53Yeah.
01:53She did.
01:54I thought, to be honest, it was like, it was so obvious it could have been her, but it couldn't have been her.
01:58Yeah.
01:59She's so cute and so innocent looking.
02:00She's the perfect pick for it.
02:01She's perfect.
02:02Oh my God.
02:03But then she went so hard for Hugo, I thought, maybe she's not.
02:06I was watching it going, surely that it's not going to be another Welsh person.
02:11So many Welsh people.
02:13We've had Amanda.
02:15Amanda.
02:15We've had Andrew.
02:16And then we had Charlotte.
02:17We've had a fake Welsh traitor.
02:19And now another real Welsh traitor.
02:21And Hugo was Welsh as well.
02:23So this has done a lot to ruin the reputation for Welsh.
02:26Were there any clues that could have led us to Fiona?
02:29We've got the handwriting.
02:31Did anyone notice similarities with the handwriting, with the murder shortlist and the slates?
02:36That was one thing.
02:37Oh, I didn't even think of that.
02:39Well, I did think the handwriting was so good that a younger person might not have done that.
02:45You know what I mean?
02:46I just think like we use, like younger people use technology a lot.
02:48Speak for yourself.
02:49I've got a beautiful handwriting.
02:50Sorry, I'm sorry.
02:51But I was like, it's an older person.
02:53That was my initial fault.
02:54I definitely thought it was going to be a female.
02:56Yeah.
02:56It's going to be a female.
02:57Because she was going for the lads all the time.
02:59The men were in the chopping block for a long time.
03:01So it's like, yeah, it's going to be a good lady.
03:04So in episode one, on the way to the mission, I don't know if anyone else picked up on this.
03:08James says that no one in the car that he's in does he suspect to be a traitor.
03:12And Fiona's in that car and does a quiet little sort of smile out of the window.
03:17Just glances off.
03:18Oh, I missed that.
03:19Did you catch that?
03:20I did catch that.
03:21But I think Fiona always looks like she's like, sunshine's a lollipop.
03:25So she's just looking around and just having a great old time.
03:28I think she's played it beautifully.
03:29She is.
03:30There was also, and I mentioned this on a previous episode of Uncloked, my biggest clue that Fiona
03:35was the secret traitor, the comment of saying, at home, I've got a red bather that's a thong.
03:40Your husband's not going to recognise you when you get home.
03:43You're just doing all this exercise.
03:44How are you going to be?
03:44I'm like Cindy Crawford.
03:47Be on their watch, ready for their watch.
03:49It will.
03:50Yeah, I will.
03:51I've got a little red bather, which is a thong.
03:54I don't think I need to know that.
03:59That to me is the biggest clue.
04:01Yeah, 100%.
04:02There's no way they're including that in the edit.
04:04It's not a huge clue.
04:06And she threw it in on purpose.
04:07She's like, I'm going to mention red and I'm going to do it.
04:10Give it a little one for me, hubby at home.
04:13Little wink.
04:14Love her.
04:14Husband's thinking, I've never seen that.
04:16That's not fair.
04:19She's all talk.
04:20As a former traitor, how do you rate her gameplay so far?
04:23It's 10 out of 10, isn't it?
04:25It's got to be 10 out of 10.
04:26As long as she tones it down at some point, it's just great.
04:28And it's entertaining.
04:29It's really entertaining to watch somebody who's fully in the role and just enjoying it.
04:33Obviously, I cried all the time.
04:34So it's like watching somebody who's just enjoying it and taking it as a game.
04:38It's nice to watch.
04:39Yes.
04:40And Max, as a super fan, this has obviously been our opportunity to play the game at home.
04:44Have you enjoyed that?
04:46Loved it.
04:46Because I was dissecting everybody's glances.
04:49Everybody, even the tone of their voice when they would say certain things.
04:52I found myself this season more than ever really paying attention.
04:55And it just kind of showed to me how hard it is as a job of being a faithful.
05:00Let's talk about Fiona's relationship with the other traitors now that she's revealed herself.
05:04It's a little icy in here.
05:09Look at you, Boatnight Hugo.
05:11Do you know what?
05:12He messed up big time.
05:14So I had to go gun ho on him.
05:16Okay.
05:16It had to be done.
05:18I basically have done your job for you for the last few nights.
05:25She's already got the villain's laugh.
05:27She's phenomenal, isn't she?
05:29Unbelievable.
05:30So brilliant.
05:31I think that that could be her biggest downfall.
05:33Is like Rachel actually said earlier in the show, no two traitors have ever won it together.
05:39So you've got to have your fellow traitors on side, really, to get to the end.
05:42Because they can throw you under the bus just as easily as you can throw them under the bus.
05:46Well, Miles, you know that more than anyone else.
05:49Take a minute's silence.
05:50What do you make of the heightening tension in the turret?
05:53I think the thing is, I think Rachel is very much, like you said, was the driving seat.
05:58Kind of had Stephen under her thumb.
06:00And then Fiona's come along now with this kind of powerhouse, especially with the attitude.
06:04And so the alliances are kind of shattered because I think Stephen's the kind of one in between the two ladies.
06:09And I think it depends on how it kind of falls.
06:11He just needs to let them fight out, doesn't he?
06:13Yeah, just don't get involved.
06:14But I think you do need your traitors.
06:17Your traitors need each other at certain points.
06:19Yeah.
06:19And as soon as that kind of starts crumbling, as you saw.
06:22Especially this early in the game as well.
06:24It's very early.
06:25It feels like they need to stick together for a little bit.
06:27I mean, obviously, in series three, we saw a fairly united traitors turret.
06:31It feels like things are crumbling pretty quickly.
06:34I think Hugo being chucked so quick has kind of made them all a little edgy, maybe.
06:40I think Hugo was the kind of common enemy, wasn't he?
06:43He was like, he's not going to last.
06:44Easy time.
06:45He's not going to last.
06:46And the faithfuls were annoyed by him and so were the traitors.
06:48So you've got no chance, mate.
06:50Now, speaking of Fiona, as we have been for pretty much the whole episode,
06:54her take on the mission was rather relaxed.
06:58She could not care less.
07:00I love it so much.
07:01She's walking around.
07:02She's literally trolling him.
07:04What would you say then, Angela?
07:05If you was in that box.
07:06I'm about to die.
07:07I'd be like, Fiona, babes, love you, love your pace.
07:10Generally enjoy the way you exist in the world.
07:14But get your arse in here.
07:15You're not sprained in an ankle.
07:16I'm not interested.
07:17The mission as a whole was quite a brutal display of allegiances
07:20because people had to pick the people they were protecting.
07:23Poor Sam.
07:25Poor Sam, completely alone.
07:27No one picked him.
07:28Apart from Rachel electing Amanda over fellow traitor Stephen,
07:32were there any other pairings that you found surprising?
07:35I think they were quite random, to be honest.
07:37From what we've seen, there weren't too many alliances that I could tell.
07:41Are we surprised that Sam was the one who was left out?
07:43No.
07:44No, I was.
07:45No, I wasn't.
07:47I think he gives up that vibe.
07:48I even thought he was a secret traitor for a while
07:52because he gives off that vibe like I'm playing the game by myself.
07:56Well, soon we'll be getting Ross's reaction to the secret traitor twist,
07:59which unbeknownst to the faithful,
08:01has been controlling the castle since the start.
08:04But first, we finish this episode with traitors Rachel and Fiona
08:07having to put their differences aside
08:08and decide who to kill to take suspicion of fellow traitor Stephen.
08:13So their choices are Sam, Rhys and Maz.
08:17Protect Maz at all costs.
08:19What I love about Maz, he's clearly such a sweet man.
08:23Yeah.
08:23And when he finds out he's on this, you know, big shortlist or whatever,
08:27that he's one of the people who could be murdered,
08:29he's like, oh, this is awful to be on the murder shortlist.
08:32And you want to go, brother, you've been on that list every day.
08:36You've been dodging them day in day.
08:37If only you, Fiona has been whacking you on the shortlist every single day.
08:42Why? I don't understand.
08:43That's the nicest problem with Maz.
08:45He's so innocent.
08:46Yeah.
08:47But I liked how when he was in the cage,
08:50he's like, I was in the police force.
08:52This is, whatever happens here is grand.
08:56Clearly everyone is involved in the police force.
08:58Quite a lot.
09:00Maz needs to go.
09:01I'm really sorry.
09:02How dare you?
09:03Rhys already has suspicion on him.
09:05So you'd leave him in
09:06because they're going to banish him at some point anyway.
09:08Yeah.
09:08So you'd get, like, I'd get rid of Maz
09:10because people would be like, what's going on?
09:12Why would they get rid of Maz?
09:13It would just cause a bit more confusion.
09:15Then they'll look at Rhys a little bit.
09:17And Sam's got a lot of suspicion on him as well.
09:19Yeah.
09:19So I think that's really sad to say.
09:21I'm sorry.
09:21I love Maz as well, but see you later.
09:23Do we think murdering Sam takes the spotlight off Stephen at all?
09:26Because Sam led the Judy banishment charge
09:29and he's been a bit quiet ever since.
09:31Sam just acts like a traitor sometimes.
09:33Yeah.
09:34He kind of gives that traitor confidence, maybe.
09:37Too much.
09:38He kind of calms it down and becomes a good faithful.
09:41I don't think he seems like he's got a good alliance
09:43with many other faithfuls.
09:44Still, really handsome guy.
09:46Oh, Alex.
09:48Because everyone thought he looked like you and that's why.
09:51Oh, what? Did they?
09:52Sorry.
09:53I'm not on socials very often.
09:57Let's look at murdering Rhys as an option.
10:00Because it was neck and neck between him and Ross at the round table.
10:03He basically just got absolved of a lot of suspicion on him
10:06because he got so emotional.
10:07No, but the fact that Stephen saw that happen,
10:10as a traitor, I would then go,
10:12guys, this happened in the kitchen.
10:14Murder Rhys.
10:14You know, Harriet saw him crying
10:15and she was a big force in getting rid of Hugo.
10:18She no longer has any suspicion on him.
10:20It's kind of useless.
10:20We may as well get rid of him.
10:21Yeah, that's interesting.
10:22But, yeah, I suppose in that moment,
10:25Stephen is not deciding who to murder, of course.
10:28He's locked in a cage.
10:30I mean, I'm gutted for Stephen
10:31because this feels like a huge mistake.
10:33Did anyone spot the particular slip-up at the round table?
10:37Let's have a little reminder.
10:39There's just one point as well that I wanted to make.
10:43These murders in plain sight, right,
10:45they are designed to give us clues, OK?
10:48Because you're asking the traitors to do something
10:50whilst everyone is running wild around the castle, OK?
10:53Yeah.
10:54So, who was the last person I saw at that painting?
10:58Yeah.
10:58And I've spoken to you before, Maz, through this process.
11:01And so I was thinking to myself last night,
11:04you know, or sorry, this morning,
11:06after we found out how, you know, the thing was done.
11:09Dude.
11:11Dude, he's got to be more careful.
11:12And he was so confident.
11:14He was like, I'm going to smash this, Paul.
11:16One of the tales, though, I noticed on that
11:19is that he finishes every sentence with OK,
11:21which I think is giving himself a breather
11:23to get my next sentence with you.
11:24It's not enough of a breather, though.
11:25No, it is.
11:26OK?
11:27So, last night in the turret.
11:28He had a full night.
11:29We were talking in the turret last night.
11:31OK, so I'm a traitor, Faithful.
11:32Well, Banished Faithful Ross joins us next.
11:36But first, let's see how he reacted
11:38when he found out the identity of the traitors
11:40just after he left the game
11:42at Claudia's surprise morning round table.
11:48It's frustrating having been voted out as...
11:54Honestly, I had a perfect theory.
11:55Come on now.
11:56Like, literally, we know one of those five
11:59had to be a traitor.
12:01And they've set me up.
12:03And ultimately, I could tell on that round table
12:06they just were not listening to the facts
12:09that I was laying down.
12:11Traitors-wise, I think there were four.
12:13And at least one of those five
12:15who heard Ben's dying words is a traitor.
12:20And of those five,
12:21Ellie, I think, is a traitor.
12:24Stephen, I think, is a traitor.
12:26And then Fiona.
12:30It's so hard.
12:31It's so hard.
12:31But I do think Fiona is a silent assassin.
12:35Final one is Harriet.
12:37And it's just because of her behaviour on that last round table.
12:42It didn't make sense that she wasn't listening to what I was saying there.
12:46Is this now...
12:46Is this the point where I can now find out who the traitors are?
12:49Oh, mate.
12:50All right.
12:52Oh.
12:56Oh.
12:57Oh, here we go.
12:59Oh, mate.
13:00Okay.
13:07Yes.
13:08Stephen, I did know Stephen was a traitor.
13:11This makes me feel so good because I knew it.
13:16That's a win for me.
13:17I'll give you that.
13:19Right.
13:20Oh, do you know what?
13:20I'm a bit worried to see who the next one is.
13:21Rachel.
13:33Rachel.
13:36That has stunned me.
13:38Oh.
13:39I'm not going to lie to you.
13:42Rachel was completely off my radar.
13:46I just thought she was just being unnecessarily stubborn.
13:49Ultimately, the traitors' plan was to get me out at the round table.
13:53And she guaranteed, without suspicion, I'd always get at least one vote.
13:58I am super surprised Ellie's not on this list.
14:02She was really weirdly quiet at the round table.
14:05That was really weird to me.
14:07That surprised me.
14:08She has been a faithful.
14:11And I was wrong.
14:14And Russ is with us now.
14:15Yay!
14:20Welcome.
14:20Welcome to Uncloaked, Russ.
14:21Thank you so much for having me.
14:23It's a delight to have you here.
14:24Under sad circumstances, of course.
14:26You've gone out quite early.
14:27You know what?
14:28I'm actually really happy with my run.
14:30Honestly, I feel like blaze of glory, you know?
14:32Yeah.
14:33It was a huge blaze of glory.
14:35In a way.
14:36Gilted.
14:37Gilted.
14:38We'll talk about your whole game.
14:41But first, I do want to hear why you thought your own secret girlfriend was a traitor.
14:46Listen, right.
14:47So you lot don't know who I ever have at home.
14:49And so she'll be like freezing up.
14:52I'm really nervous.
14:52And then I'm like, I'm literally under fire here.
14:56Who's got a chance?
14:57Who's nervous?
14:59And so I just couldn't empathize with her finding the experience so intimidating.
15:05Was there beef and onion when you got home?
15:06No, no, no, no, no, no.
15:07Maybe a little bit, yeah?
15:09It was more, I was like, you know what?
15:11I didn't want her to go crazy, but I was like a little...
15:13A little drag.
15:14A little drag.
15:15Sorry.
15:15A little left hop.
15:17Like a little defence or leading the charge in an opposite direction, maybe.
15:22Don't get me wrong.
15:23The plan was, you know, we're working for the household.
15:25Don't sacrifice yourself.
15:26But I was like, don't do nothing.
15:28Yeah.
15:29Fuck me up a bit over here.
15:31But I did see later on in some bits that actually, you know, she was, she had my back.
15:35Well, she must have felt, she must have felt quite sort of torn because she was also watching you have the most stressful game anyone's ever had.
15:43I think because it was as soon as you got out of the car, when normally you can relax and sort of take the castle in.
15:48Nettie runs towards you.
15:49And from that moment on, you were under suspicion.
15:52At the time, I'd seen Nettie like early, if I say 20 seconds before.
15:57And so I was like, yes, I've got a secret ally.
16:02Not another one.
16:03It's supposed to be 22 strangers.
16:06It's 20 plus Ross and Nettie.
16:08And Ellie.
16:09And Ellie.
16:10Yes, and Ellie.
16:12Be for home.
16:14Definitely be for home.
16:16And Nettie's gone, Ross.
16:18And I was like, no.
16:19And so I've frozen because I'm like, oh, this is not good.
16:22And she's run and she's jumped into my arms.
16:25And the problem with that, it's also that I'm like, everyone was like, oh, Ross, how was, you know, it looks really suspicious.
16:31And I'm like, I don't care about you lot right now.
16:33Someone who, my partner, who has no idea who they are, just jumped into my arms.
16:37Like, you guys have got the wrong priority.
16:40And he's like, oh, really?
16:43Yeah.
16:43You've got some splaining.
16:45Is there footage anywhere of Ellie finding you in the castle and going, who the hell is that?
16:49And that's what my actual initial fear and worry was.
16:54And so what's annoying, frustrating is I'm trying to hang it up and be like, oh, my God, who is this?
17:00I can't believe.
17:01It's my platonic friend from years ago.
17:03Exactly.
17:05Wasn't a platonic friend.
17:06And so, yes, yes, yes.
17:07Okay.
17:08Just for a platonic.
17:09It's actually generally innocent, but it looks terrible.
17:12Look, you guessed Stephen.
17:18And we also saw in that clip, you guessed Fiona as well.
17:21You referred to Fiona as a silent assassin.
17:24Yes.
17:24You couldn't have been much closer, you know, secret traitor, silent assassin.
17:27I just noticed she'd, like, I've spent a lot of time with Fiona.
17:32She's switched on.
17:33She's really, really switched on.
17:35So when she'd say stuff every now and again, like, what did he say?
17:39What did Ben say?
17:41I was like, you're asking a question you knew the answer to.
17:45Yeah.
17:45And so for me, I was like, that was a flag, but it wasn't like a, yeah.
17:50And I mean, we're talking a lot about the Library Five.
17:53So the people who heard Ben's final words to look at you if he died.
17:58And so you suspected Stephen because of that.
18:00And Fiona was also there.
18:01It was two of the Library Five addresses.
18:04That's true.
18:04And so in my eyes, it was those three.
18:08I knew that, this is going to sound a bit arrogant,
18:11but I felt like Fiona would not kill me.
18:16And so because of it, I was like, there's no point actually going out with Fiona.
18:19I'm obviously not going to ruin the household.
18:21And so Stephen was actually the only viable person of that five
18:26who was like, yeah, you can go.
18:28And so it just made sense.
18:30So you were so adamant it was Ellie.
18:32Like you were like, I was, I couldn't, at that time,
18:36I could not think of any other reason for her to be so out of character.
18:40Like if you know, if you guys, I would say if you know Ellie,
18:42she's actually like wild.
18:45Like I'm actually the calm one.
18:47Really?
18:48Yeah.
18:48She seems so quiet.
18:49That's it.
18:50And so I was more like, who are you?
18:52Like I was, I was.
18:54She's only chill when her boyfriend's under the threat of vanishment.
18:56That's the only time she takes a back seat.
18:59You know what?
19:00After watching the first episode,
19:02I did now notice that basically,
19:04other than us two on the train where she's smiling
19:06and a bit like,
19:07every other scene was like.
19:09She's terrified.
19:12Can we talk about the moment on the train?
19:16Obviously, you're trying to conceal that you're in a relationship.
19:19I'd say it's the most obvious thing I've ever seen in my life.
19:22That conversation, the, I'm from London.
19:25Is it?
19:26Is it?
19:26I think, is it, is it.
19:28I went, is it.
19:30Hey!
19:31That was a good one.
19:32Is it?
19:33I think is it will be your legacy on this show.
19:36I hope so.
19:37No one's ever been that surprised to hear someone's from London.
19:41Well, Ellie's claimed that she's going to avenge your banishment.
19:44I hope so.
19:45Yeah.
19:45I hope so.
19:46She should be.
19:47She's got, I feel like I've laid the clues.
19:49You know, with evidence.
19:51So, I'm like.
19:52And beautifully articulated and very calm.
19:55I just, yeah.
19:56But then Rachel went, what was the turret like?
19:58And you were like, oh!
19:59That was crazy.
20:00Oh, my God.
20:01I don't know what anyone would say in that situation.
20:03I know.
20:04You pretending that you didn't know what the turret was was brilliant.
20:06We should talk about this.
20:08Let's remind ourselves of that moment.
20:10Can I ask you a question?
20:11Please.
20:12Was Hugo this dramatic in the turret?
20:14Was Hugo this?
20:17I'm sorry, I don't understand.
20:18Was Hugo dramatic in the turret?
20:22I didn't.
20:23In what turret?
20:26Oh, she's so evil.
20:27And she's like, I rest my case.
20:31I mean, a brutal move from Rachel, I think.
20:34Wild play.
20:35And then she tries to claim it was a joke afterwards.
20:37She's like, I jokingly said this.
20:38It's like, your face wasn't showing up.
20:39That was a little joky joke.
20:41But then, I mean, look, I felt bad for you for this whole game, Russ.
20:45Because from minute one, you're like,
20:47no one else is under suspicion.
20:48You get out of the car.
20:49Nettie runs up to you.
20:50And the game never slowed down from that point.
20:52Yes, sadly.
20:53So I understand there's so much going on.
20:54At this point, you're going to go, what turret?
20:57But have you worked out what the turret is yet?
20:59I do that.
20:59Yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:00Rachel's turret.
21:01Hats off to you.
21:02He's had the hardest start I've ever seen anybody have.
21:05It's the most brutal Rachel V. Ross since Friends season.
21:08It's such a leading question though as well, isn't it?
21:13I thought that was her slipping up.
21:16So what's really funny was, when that was going on, I was like,
21:19bruv, have you just outed yourself?
21:22And also, what I didn't want to do at the time as well was say traitors.
21:26I don't know why, in my head, I just thought,
21:27if you say traitors, people will associate you with.
21:30And I was like, bruv, that...
21:32And I still thought it was a weird thing to say,
21:33but I understand now the game was a powerful thing to do.
21:37Max, how would you cope in that situation
21:38if you were at the round table?
21:39I think I would cry and run away.
21:42I don't think that would raise any suspicion whatsoever.
21:45Yeah.
21:46Ross, why did you and Ellie decide to go into the game together?
21:49Oh, so actually, Ellie was the one that applied for us.
21:52And we loved the show.
21:54So we'd watched season two and three.
21:59And then when she said we should try for it,
22:01I was like, you sure?
22:04Because obviously, it's such a popular show,
22:07so many people are on it.
22:08And so, yeah, I'm not really like that.
22:09Has it brought you closer together?
22:11Yes.
22:12Or has it exposed some serious flaws in your relationship?
22:18Love Island.
22:19I have, yeah, to be fair to you,
22:22I've seen a lot more already, actually,
22:25if that makes sense.
22:25Because I think, especially in a relationship,
22:27I don't know if you're competitive,
22:29but she'd keep her guard up quite a bit.
22:32So now understanding, oh, that's what that face means.
22:35It's been really, really helpful,
22:37because, like, no, it's been good.
22:39I think it's been good.
22:39I've seen your own reactions on TV.
22:41It is.
22:42Oh, that's what my face looks like.
22:44Were there any moments when you're in the castle
22:48that you nearly slipped up,
22:49that you nearly sort of revealed a little bit
22:51of the secret relationship to the other players?
22:54No, I was actually really playing with it.
22:56Weirdly, our relationship was the most fun
22:59and comfortable thing for me, personally,
23:01because I just, I don't know why,
23:02arrogantly, I knew nobody would guess.
23:05Yeah.
23:06And especially, obviously, after the Nettie scenario,
23:08I was like, bruv, we can do whatever.
23:09But there was no point at, like, the end of the day.
23:12Let's just go to get you.
23:16At the end of the day,
23:17you didn't, like, accidentally kiss her on the lips
23:19and then have to kiss everyone on the lips.
23:20That's why he got banished.
23:25It's not an excuse anymore, Eddie.
23:27Yeah, we're going to have to get rid of Ross.
23:29He keeps snogging at me.
23:32It's obviously out there now
23:34that you and Ellie are in a relationship,
23:36but when the first three episodes were going out,
23:39have you been trying to not be seen together
23:41or trying to keep it safe?
23:42So, yes, we've had to leave the house at separate times
23:46where we went to go watch the first episode
23:49that my family's together.
23:52Ellie took a big jacket and sunglasses.
23:55And, like, it's going over the top.
23:57And I get it, to be fair,
23:58because we live where we live.
23:59And so we don't want people just to ruin the fun.
24:02Yeah, yeah.
24:02And so, yeah, we've been doing every bit extra,
24:05which has been a bit long, but it's fun.
24:07And also, and telling friends, bruv.
24:10Yeah, because I was going to say,
24:11the neighbours next door, like,
24:12hey, yeah, they're neighbours, they're my neighbours.
24:16I've been using this emoji non-stop.
24:17And then everyone else has been, like,
24:18keep it to yourselves.
24:20And also, because it's fun.
24:21You get to share in the secret.
24:22You're in the circle.
24:24Yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:25Who do you think is going to survive
24:27tonight's face-to-face murder, Ross?
24:29We've obviously got...
24:30Stephen.
24:31We've got Stephen.
24:32Stephen will survive, yeah.
24:34Really?
24:35Are you all right?
24:36We should survive,
24:37because obviously if I was a traitor,
24:38I'm keeping him to hell in.
24:39I'd probably kill Maz.
24:42That's what I said.
24:43I said that.
24:44But we love Maz.
24:45I love Maz.
24:46I'm sorry, Maz.
24:47Explain yourself.
24:48I love Sam,
24:49but Sam has rubbed some people
24:51not the right way.
24:53The wrong way.
24:54Ross is so nice,
24:55he won't even say the word wrong.
24:56Oh, the incorrect way.
25:00You've rubbed me not the right way.
25:02A little feedback for you there.
25:09Yeah.
25:10The turret, yeah.
25:11What turret, yeah.
25:14Ross, although your time
25:15was cut savagely short,
25:16you've entered
25:17the Traitor's History books
25:18because you are the second Ross
25:20to be in a secret relationship.
25:22The other one with his mum.
25:24Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
25:26Of course.
25:26It's sad season.
25:28You follow in the footsteps
25:30of secret son Ross to Diane,
25:32who is, of course,
25:33Miles' murder conquest.
25:35Congratulations.
25:36We'd like to commemorate that here
25:38on Uncloaked.
25:39A little portrait for you to take on.
25:42So you can have the other Ross at home.
25:45We'll have all the Rosses.
25:46All the Rosses.
25:47You can take that home with you.
25:48And we've sent him one of you as well.
25:51Nice.
25:53Well, we're out of time for part one,
25:55but we'll keep chatting over
25:56on BBC Sounds.
25:57I'm going to ask Ross
25:58more about his secret in the castle
25:59and if Fiona's arrival in the turret
26:01will make or break the traitors.
26:03Plus, there'll be more
26:04from Angela, Max, Wilf and Miles.
26:06It's all in your bonus episode
26:07of Uncloaked,
26:08which you can hear right now.
26:09Just scan the QR code on the screen
26:11and listen to us
26:12as you get ready for bed.
26:13I'm back on Thursday night
26:14straight after episode five
26:16with celebrity faithful Mark Bonner
26:18and series three faithful Fosier
26:20to see who hasn't made it
26:21through the night
26:21and if that murder
26:23has successfully thrown the scent
26:24off of traitor Stephen.
26:26Big thanks to Angela, Max,
26:27Wilf, Miles and Ross
26:28and to you for watching.
26:29I'm Ed Gamble.
26:31Stay faithful.
26:32Woo!
26:33Woo!
26:33Woo!
26:33Woo!
26:33Woo!
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