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00:00This is a subject I love, our connection to our beloved pets.
00:23Tammy Billups is a pet medium who has written an award-winning book on our soul contracts
00:27with our pets, and now one on how our pets can help heal us, and we can help heal their
00:33wounded parts as well.
00:34I can't help but think of my little wounded terrier, Ernie, in this subject, and I'm sure
00:38you're going to find your little doggy or cat somewhere in this story, too.
00:41So let's go to Tammy.
00:43Tammy, I'm so happy to have you here.
00:45I just, I love, love, love this topic.
00:47Thank you so much.
00:48I love it, too.
00:49Yeah.
00:49I never tire of it.
00:50Well, let's get into your background and how you ended up doing this, because people, how
00:55did she end up talking to animals and connecting with them, you know, telepathically and so
01:00forth.
01:00So let's get into your background a bit.
01:02Okay.
01:02Well, it wasn't part of my plan to do this.
01:05You've probably heard that before.
01:07I began working with people more.
01:10I took a four-year certification to learn how to help people heal their emotional wounds
01:16through the energy fields.
01:18And I was maybe in the first year of doing that, and animals had always been a big blessing
01:26to me.
01:27I, like many people, had a lot of trauma in the past where animals were safer to let
01:31in.
01:32And so I always had animals close to me, and I wondered, I wonder if this stuff works with
01:36animals.
01:37And so it was interesting, because I began asking my friends, can I work on your animals
01:42and just see if I can see what's happening in their energy fields?
01:45And when I did that, the fascinating thing was that I would look into their energy field
01:51and see a clear pattern.
01:53There are certain characteristics of the way that the energy flows for certain emotional
01:57wounds that are predictable.
01:59And so I would see, perhaps, that the animal had an abandonment wound in their energy field.
02:04And then I would kind of pander their person.
02:07And guess what?
02:08Their person had the same emotional wound that was unhealed.
02:12And I found that fascinating.
02:14Yeah, now, as you're saying this, everybody, think about your pets and their wounds they
02:19bring and how you mirror them.
02:21Because I'm doing that as we're talking, but I have a couple questions.
02:25So you must have been very open and empathetic to begin with.
02:28Yes.
02:29Yeah, so you're an empath.
02:30So when you looked in their field at their wounds, did it show up similarly to how that
02:36would show up in a human field?
02:37It did.
02:38And I'm not sure if that was just for ease of me recognizing it.
02:41Yeah, it'll present how it needs to for your recognition.
02:43Correct, correct.
02:44But yes, it was very much there.
02:47And I started noticing that there were behaviors that were the same between them.
02:51There were certain differences between how people might show up with abandonment or an
02:56animal.
02:56But it is predictable for different ways that their behaviors are going to be, or they're
03:01going to talk a lot, or they're going to, depending on what their emotional wound is.
03:05Interesting.
03:06Yeah, as I'm kind of searching through, too, in my own mind, I'm thinking, wow, I must
03:10be schizophrenic because of the variety of dogs that I've brought to me.
03:16But it's interesting that the female dogs I've had, I got from puppyhood.
03:21And they were perfect.
03:23They were just kind of perfect little dogs.
03:25They didn't have any issues, confident.
03:26You could even do fireworks on Fourth of July.
03:29Didn't bother them any.
03:30I mean, the males were the wounded ones that had had trauma when I got them.
03:36Wow, what a difference in the two types of dogs.
03:39But it was nice to be surrounded by both kinds of energy.
03:43But your heart just pours out to the ones who have been wounded.
03:46Of course, of course.
03:47So it must have been where you were on your emotional journey as well, that you were open
03:50to receiving that in any way, maybe doing some deeper work at that time.
03:55Yeah, yeah.
03:55I mean, and I bring it up because everybody's thinking, they might even be pausing for a
03:59second.
04:00Yeah, what about that dog I had back then?
04:02And now in your case, it's cat.
04:04So let's get into the notion, was there one particular pet that you had along the way
04:10that just you knew when you met them, this being was here for you, and you were here for
04:15them, and you knew you had a soul connection, even before you understood all of this?
04:19Oh, yeah.
04:19It definitely happened before.
04:21That's what really changed my life, because we weren't really allowed to, as a child,
04:25I wasn't allowed to have animals.
04:27I'm not one of those animal people that says, I lived on a farm, and I was talking to animals
04:32early.
04:32That was not the case.
04:34They weren't allowed in my house.
04:35They were dirty, in my mom's mind.
04:37So when I got into my career that I traveled a bunch in my 20s, I started wanting an animal,
04:44and a cat seemed to be the perfect choice for traveling.
04:47Yeah, not as codependent.
04:49Correct.
04:49And so when I got this kitten, Kalua, who I found on the side of the road, she was this
04:55flotchy little neighbor, Kalua, because it looked like someone had spilt some on her.
05:00And she loved, she looked at me in a way that no one had ever looked at me before, and it
05:07still brings up emotion today.
05:08I understand.
05:09And you don't realize that you've never heard or felt unconditional love until you feel it
05:15for the first time, and animals are so extraordinary in that they bring that to humans that have
05:21had a lot of trauma in their past.
05:23She changed me.
05:24She rocked me at my core, because I had felt that.
05:28I didn't know that I could love in that way.
05:30They were my safety net, and they always will be.
05:34It's a different relationship now, of course, that I'm on a conscious journey than the relationship
05:39I had with my animals in my 20s and 30s, which were much more codependent, I might have.
05:43Sure, sure.
05:44What it really does underscore is that in the human world, love tends to be so conditional.
05:53It shouldn't be, but in the end, it is.
05:57And part of the way you understand that is by feeling the contrast when it's not conditional.
06:04The very ones that love us unconditionally are the ones that we outlive, too.
06:09And that, certainly for a lot of people, is the biggest trauma, one of the biggest traumas
06:13in their life, but yeah, and I had a dog named Sugar Bear, who was a Samoyed.
06:17She was draped over a man's arm.
06:20He was walking through the parking lot, and he was carrying a little free sign with him,
06:24and I thought, this can't be this cute little floppy white puppy.
06:29And she ended up being the most unconditionally loving, beautiful entity that I had ever met
06:35in my life, just like what you're talking about.
06:37And actually, because my love for her was so deep, I stayed in a not very good human relationship
06:42for years.
06:43Oh, for the kids.
06:45Yeah, for the kids.
06:46And I think people can really understand that and relate to it.
06:49So let's go to now how the soul contract part of it, because that's another book you've
06:54written before we start going into the reflective mirrored healing parts.
06:59So that we do have these, our souls line up agreements between us and our animals.
07:06These things are preconceived.
07:08Sometimes we'll reincarnate, you know, the same animals we incarnate with us several times,
07:13because we're so familiar with them, which is amazing.
07:15We'll recognize them just like what people.
07:18And so we will embark upon these agreements that we have with animals to help us grow,
07:24learn, heal, evolve, depending on what we're needing on our evolutionary journey.
07:30And animals will help us direct ourselves in the journey that we want to evolve to.
07:36They're evolving as well, of course.
07:38But we really line up these things in advance.
07:41Give me some examples of what you've seen with some of your clients in terms of soul contracts.
07:46I love these stories.
07:47Yes.
07:47And because we always think that we're in control, right?
07:51And, well, I think it's time to get a cat.
07:54And that's the end of the story.
07:55So you're going to go somewhere and find a cute cat.
07:57Right.
07:58But let's talk about what's really going on.
08:00Right.
08:01People think they're just getting this pet, and they're just going to have this unconditional
08:04love, and they're going to be able to go on walks with them.
08:07And, oh, they're helping them exercise.
08:08But there's a lot more going on under the surface and at a soul level for your growth.
08:14And the more open you are to that, then the more soul contracts are going to start revealing
08:18themselves, the higher purpose of your arrangement as to why you came together to learn and grow
08:24together.
08:25It's truly extraordinary what animals are willing to do with this.
08:29So tell us a couple examples of people and their pets you've read, what they thought
08:33was happening versus what was actually happening.
08:36Well, I'll start with something more simplistic.
08:40Early when I started working with animals a bit, and like so much of the time, people
08:45will call and want to fix their animal.
08:47My animal's doing this.
08:49Will you help them stop doing this or tell them I don't want them to jump on the sofa?
08:55Can you fix them?
08:57And I remember one call in particular of a woman who just called, and she said, I have
09:03this dog, and he's jumping, and he's jumping, and he's jumping, and he's jumping, and I can't
09:06get him to stop jumping, and I just don't know what to do, and she's going on and on and
09:09on.
09:09And her voice is jumping and jumping and jumping.
09:12And I started working with the dog, and the dog immediately calmed and got grounded
09:18and was fine, but her energy didn't change.
09:22She stayed in this very ungrounded state where she was very jumpy herself.
09:28And so then she called a week later, and she goes, well, it didn't stick.
09:32And I said, hmm, well, how can we look at this differently?
09:36How about, do you meditate?
09:37Well, I'm open to meditate.
09:38Well, can you meditate together maybe?
09:40And when you go walking, can you more intentionally see yourself grounding?
09:44Because your dog is picking up on everything that you're doing, and that little leash is
09:49a little energetic umbilical cord between the two of you.
09:52So she said, I'll try.
09:54And she began trying that, and then I didn't hear from her for a long time.
09:58And sometimes that's good news, and sometimes not.
10:01But six months later, I started getting a lot of referrals from her.
10:05And she said, that was the ticket.
10:08And that's when I realized that when the person's on board, that's when the animal change.
10:12And that's when it's more sustainable.
10:14That's when it's going to stick, what you're wanting for your animal.
10:17Same with the ailments.
10:19And so much of the time, Regina, I see people become aware of a conscious journey because
10:26of something that they're doing for their animal.
10:28They may not be aware yet.
10:30They may not be on a conscious journey.
10:32But then in order to fix their animal, they tried an animal communicator.
10:37They tried herbs.
10:39They tried things that started to open their minds to something different.
10:42And because of that, the animal said, yeah, high five.
10:46She's doing it now, or he's doing it now.
10:49And they started learning about consciousness and what they could do for themselves.
10:54But when they begin a conscious journey together, that's when it gets juicy.
10:59That's why I love doing what I do.
11:01Oh, I can imagine.
11:03What gratifying work.
11:04Well, let's talk about maybe a story of abandonment because I look at people are picking their
11:11dogs up at the pound or at SPCA oftentimes.
11:16And so you know that there might be issues there.
11:19Yeah.
11:19So abandonment is one of those issues where, of course, we can, it's easy to recognize within
11:24the animal because a lot of times they've been adopted and returned, adopted and returned.
11:28Maybe they have separation anxiety.
11:30Maybe they're overeating.
11:31They use oral fixations, carry around a toy, overlook, all kinds of things that are really
11:36predictable.
11:37Sometimes the person's not quite as aware of their heavy abandonment wounds until they
11:43get together.
11:43And regardless of whether or not the animal has abandonment before you adopt them, if you're
11:49the one they land with, I promise you, you've got abandonment wounding.
11:53I remember there was a gentleman named Rick that called me about Sammy.
11:57And his primary motive in calling was, you need to fix Sammy.
12:01He's way too needy.
12:02I can't leave the farm.
12:03He's running after the truck.
12:04I can't go anywhere.
12:06Can you fix Sammy?
12:08And I said, okay, so let's focus on Sammy's abandonment wound.
12:12But you know, I just want you to be open to doing this with him.
12:15Are you open to a tandem session?
12:17Yeah, I'm open to it.
12:18He was very open and conscious about it.
12:20So he would lay down while I do the session as well.
12:23And they both began working on their abandonment wound.
12:25And after the second session, he said, well, Sammy's not chasing the truck anymore.
12:30He goes, but you know what I realized?
12:32And I said, what?
12:33And he said, every single love relationship I've had, these girlfriends get very needy
12:40and very attached.
12:42And in the same way that Sammy gets attached.
12:45And I said, well, isn't that interesting?
12:48And he said, I think I've got abandonment.
12:51And I said, I think you're onto something.
12:52And then he said, I want to just work on me.
12:55And a lot of times that's the way that it works.
12:57I mean, this is so wonderful because you're qualified to do both.
13:00Yeah.
13:01Yeah.
13:02So they go in tandem.
13:03And so sometimes these animals come into our life to show us this about ourselves.
13:08Yeah, that's beautiful.
13:09And you just said something.
13:10When abandonment has to do with over licking, for example.
13:14Because I'm just thinking of a situation.
13:17I'm going to sprinkle.
13:18This show, I'm going to totally take advantage of the time to bring in my own anecdotes here.
13:22Bring it on.
13:23Okay.
13:23So little Ernie, he had great emotional difficulties.
13:27He was about nine months old running in a very busy intersection in Phoenix.
13:32Someone found him.
13:33And my friend who does animal rescue ended up with him.
13:37And he wouldn't let her touch him.
13:39He was freaked out just with his ears down and eyes wide, hugging the side of the sofa.
13:46So I thought, oh, goodness.
13:47I just felt so sorry for him.
13:49I met him and we bonded instantly.
13:51But he never bonded with anyone else.
13:53I was his bond.
13:54But I already had a little dog named Angel, little Bijan, who I was driving through Malibu
14:03and just happened to stop at a cafe with a pet shop next door.
14:07And she had a perfect life.
14:10She was like 16 weeks old, cute and happy and fluffy, jumped in my lap.
14:15Well, she was about, I'd say, five years old when I got Ernie.
14:20And it didn't occur to me until you said that.
14:22That's when she started excessively licking her paws.
14:26So in that case, because Ernie was so needy, she must have felt abandoned.
14:32Because I think she did.
14:33She started getting her feelings hurt easily.
14:35Well, sometimes licking can also be a self-soothing or helping others move out energy in the house.
14:41So if she was the first dog, the one that had no issues, really.
14:46She was just happy as can be.
14:48She sounds like she's more of the older soul of the two.
14:51And a lot of times they will help to soothe in some way the other animals.
14:56So she has to soothe herself by licking her paws?
14:58There might be a way that she's moving out the energy, yeah.
15:03Interesting.
15:03And yes, it could be a little bit of that, you know, without intimately connecting with them.
15:08Yeah.
15:08It could be that as well, that there's some type of interaction with that.
15:13But it sounds like she was probably, that she could sense his anxiety.
15:18Right.
15:19And so she's helping him move it out.
15:21Okay.
15:22Yeah.
15:22A lot of anxiety.
15:24She's the empath.
15:24Yes.
15:24She was very sensitive.
15:26Yes.
15:26And helping move out the energy.
15:28And he was super intuitive.
15:30You thought it.
15:31He already knew.
15:32You had to really be careful what you thought of around him.
15:35If you thought, okay, we're going to have a bath today, he'd already be hiding if I thought it.
15:39Yes.
15:40They get the visuals in our mind.
15:41Oh, yeah.
15:42They're picking all that up.
15:43They do.
15:44Oh, my God.
15:44So fascinating.
15:45So now this gets to another question then.
15:47So you might have a cat in the house, and then maybe you decide to get a little puppy as well.
15:52Are there soul contracts between the other animals too?
15:56Yeah.
15:57They're definitely, they know each other sometimes, and they've been together before.
16:01Sometimes they have some karma to work out amongst each other.
16:05And yes, I write about that in animal soul contracts, where they do come in knowing.
16:09There are people who will call, and they'll say, I'm thinking about getting this animal.
16:13Do they have any stuff together?
16:14Or, you know, do my animal that I, my dog now, have any stuff with that?
16:18And sometimes I'll see a little angst between their higher selves, where it's going to be
16:22difficult for them to be together, because last time it wasn't so great.
16:25Maybe something really bad happened at the end at the, you know, from one of them towards
16:30the other.
16:31And so they'll remember that, just like we do at a soul level.
16:34And sometimes they'll work it out.
16:36Just like us, they come together to heal together.
16:39They're looking to evolve.
16:40They're looking to resolve their past wounding, this life or past life.
16:44Mm-hmm.
16:45Interesting.
16:46Well, in Angel's case, Angel lived to be 15.
16:50Ernie, Ernie died young.
16:52He had so many emotional wounds.
16:54And I think I kind of get it, why.
16:57But she died the same day as my father, both unexpectedly.
17:01It happened very quickly with both of them.
17:03And I always wondered, I think it was almost like a gift of freedom.
17:08Like she left at the same time because life was going to change or something.
17:13Did they have a relationship?
17:15They didn't.
17:15And I took her to see, she was in the car when I went to see my dad.
17:21And things weren't right that day.
17:22His mind was all over.
17:24And I didn't know what was going on.
17:27So I just said goodbye to him and told him no worries.
17:30And she had a seizure right after that in the car.
17:35And I thought, oh, my God, what's going on?
17:37And they were, they both died the next day.
17:40Wow.
17:41Just like that.
17:41So that would have to be something with you and the changes of the transformation.
17:44It had to be.
17:46I bring that, and I'm bringing every example up because so many people watching have been through so many of these things.
17:52And I'm just trying to put, I lost all three of my animals at the same time right after my mother.
17:57Big life changes.
17:57Same with my father.
17:58I lost them, my two animals right afterwards.
18:01So they're in relationship with that where they're ready to maybe, I thought.
18:05We're ready.
18:06We are and they are ready to free us because we might need the freedom on some level.
18:11We've learned, we've gotten what they came into our life to learn.
18:14And the soul contracts are complete.
18:15We're shifting into a new level, a higher octave, whatever it is.
18:19Right.
18:20They're, they've, it's, it's complete.
18:22And we're, I see that often where, where there are multiple passings.
18:27And it's difficult to go through those times.
18:30Oh, my God.
18:30So difficult when there are multiple passings like that.
18:33But they are the most transformational times.
18:35And were they each, were your animals, it wasn't like there was one that was sick and gave the other the disease.
18:39They were individually.
18:41Yeah.
18:41Yeah.
18:42Yeah.
18:42Right after my, my big awakening came through the death of my mother.
18:47And, and then that Kitty Kalua, my first, my first Kitty was my big awakening.
18:52And that two weeks after my mother passed, I'd had, my mom was talking about people on the other side coming to greet her.
18:59She was having those conversations.
19:00I, that was all new to me.
19:02It sent me on this whole journey of, there's this other world on the other side.
19:07Yeah.
19:08And then Kalua, all of a sudden, when she passed, mother hated cats.
19:12I didn't thought, who's going to greet her?
19:14And I asked Spirit to bring, uh, Kalua back to me.
19:18And guess what?
19:19All of a sudden that evening, I turn off the light, turn over.
19:22She's always jumping on my head, come around.
19:24And I felt something jump up on the bed, walk around, and wait for me to lift her up.
19:29I'm like, oh, my God.
19:30I turn on the light.
19:31There's no Kalua.
19:31That started my journey.
19:34All of a sudden, I could see into other dimensions.
19:36I could see her.
19:38She was this big springboard.
19:39She's back with me now as Rumi, as Kitty Rumi.
19:42Yeah.
19:43So different now, but same Kitty.
19:45But yeah, these animals have been springboards.
19:49Yes.
19:50Okay.
19:50So you had multiple contracts with her in this lifetime.
19:52Yes.
19:53And then she passed right afterwards.
19:54Wow.
19:55Yeah.
19:56Interesting.
19:56Right after mom did, and the other two passed right away.
19:58At 11, 8, and 6 years of age, they brought me into this new journey.
20:04It was so difficult.
20:06But they did what they had come to do.
20:09It's so beautiful.
20:10I think Sugar Bear, the one I talked about, she came back very quickly as another Alaskan breed.
20:18And my ex, he was my ex by now, and we had a son.
20:21He said, this dog sure does feel like Sugar Bear.
20:24She does the same thing, rescue.
20:27When she's lying down, it's in the same position.
20:30So I went and said, Sugar Bear.
20:33And she was like this and answered and turned around and ran toward me.
20:37And she stayed with them because she was to be there for my son because he was back and forth with the custody arrangement.
20:45And she was there to stabilize him at his dad's house.
20:48It was so, so beautiful.
20:51And to this day, he'll get teared up if he hears about me so.
20:54Yeah.
20:55I love that.
20:56Yeah, yeah.
20:57So let's talk about Mary Burkholz.
20:59I love this story.
21:00Caring for Creatures Animal Sanctuary.
21:02Yes.
21:03Yeah, let's talk about her story with her rescue cats.
21:05That was pretty phenomenal.
21:07Oh, with the ones where?
21:08Yeah, the UTI.
21:09Okay, okay, because I have her in there a couple of times.
21:10Yeah, the UTI.
21:12Yes.
21:12So Mary, when she first started her rescue organization, some of the animals would be in her house at that point.
21:18So her house was on the sanctuary grounds.
21:20But before they were building all of the buildings for all the rescues, a lot of the animals were in the house.
21:25And there was one morning long ago when Mary got up in the morning and she felt awful.
21:32I mean, really sick.
21:33And she said, I went to the restroom.
21:34I knew I had a really bad UTI.
21:37And the kitties were all, all the rescue kitties were meowing for their breakfast.
21:40And she went to, she said, you know, it's just got to wait.
21:44She was that ill.
21:45And she lied back down on the bed and she fell asleep.
21:49And when she woke up, there were, she looked and there were six cats on the bed with their bottoms up against, three on each side, just holding.
21:59Right against her on the lower part of her body.
22:01Right against her.
22:02And she said, what?
22:04Because these were cats that didn't co-mingle together and certainly didn't come up on the bed together.
22:09And as soon as she sat up, she realized she had no pain.
22:14All of the symptoms were completely gone.
22:16Wow.
22:17And we know this about animals.
22:18We know they're extraordinary healers.
22:20We hear about these things all the time.
22:22But I really want people to realize how much they're doing this for us and to maybe slip into allow mode, to allow it and find gratitude for it.
22:31Oh, my God.
22:31Yes.
22:32Okay.
22:33So, okay.
22:34I'm going to flip things a little bit.
22:36So if you are, say, if you have issues of abandonment and then you bring in a little animal that has issues of abandonment.
22:44Some people might flip it and ask, well, if I bring in an animal that has the same issues I have, isn't that essentially instantiating the same issues in me?
22:52Isn't it going deeper?
22:53Well, sure.
22:54That's what you want at a soul level.
22:56That's what we want.
22:57So it could get better before it gets worse.
22:59Yes.
23:00Or get worse before it gets better.
23:02Yes.
23:03Absolutely.
23:04We're going to, we're magnets for that.
23:07At a soul level, we're calling in beings that are going to help us get to the root of what we're wanting to heal.
23:13So, of course, we're going to call in animals that sometimes are the agitators.
23:17And we're going to call in the ones that are looking at us like we're golden because we're trying to believe that about ourselves.
23:23So, yes.
23:24Yeah.
23:24We're going to call that in.
23:26Yes.
23:26When, when two people come in, they have abandonment wounds.
23:29When you're on a conscious journey, you can say, oh, let's heal this together.
23:33It's a bit different then.
23:34Yes.
23:35Yes.
23:36Okay.
23:36So now we're talking about the emotional wounds here.
23:39And one of the things that you write about in the book is that the same beliefs we have, the most common simple beliefs that we carry often throughout incarnations are the same beliefs the animals carry, which is statements such as I'm bad, I'm not enough, and I'm unlovable.
23:57So when they come to us, they, they may very well be carrying these exact same beliefs, except beliefs I think work differently in the animal world.
24:06They embody it more.
24:08Yeah.
24:08It's a bit more.
24:09Plus they're, they're amplified usually within them for us until we get it and we start consciously working on our wound.
24:17And then they can usually heal much faster, much faster, depending on, of course, every soul is wired a bit differently, but they will, yes, I call them emotional wound soul contracts.
24:29And for those of us that get emotionally close to our animals, which are millions of people who turn to animals because they are safer, well, at a soul level, we're always seeking growth.
24:41It's medicine for the soul.
24:43So, yes, domesticated animals are on the front line of the animal kingdom's mission to help humanity to embrace consciousness at a new level.
24:50Yeah, our domestic pets, absolutely.
24:52Yes, in a way that we wouldn't have, millions of people would not have ways to continue their growth if it wasn't for the safety of animals to be able to help us do this.
25:01And healing our emotional wounds is a big part of why we're here.
25:05When we do that, we are moving forward.
25:08We are raising consciousness.
25:10So, yes, these animals are going to come in.
25:12If you've been betrayed, they're probably going to have betrayal.
25:15Usually how people describe their animals, they're describing a bit of themselves, right?
25:19Oh, my animal's very stubborn, and he wants to do what he wants to do, and he wants to do it, you know?
25:24And it's like, great, that might mirror you, right?
25:26Well, yeah, I kind of am that way.
25:27So they're probably here together to heal that particular wound and soften the effects of it.
25:34Okay, so you have a little bit of typology in here, which people enjoy, which is the five types of emotional wounds in your pets, your cats and dogs, and you might even say parrots and birds as well.
25:45I don't know.
25:46And I will bring your knee into the conversation again, because the first one is the scared one, terror.
25:54Yes.
25:55Yeah.
25:55The scared ones are, those are people and animals who have certainly experienced a lot of terror in past lives and in this life, torture, really,
26:05and usually begins with, with two-legged anyway, as early as the birth canal, and being in the womb of maybe they were a birth that wasn't wanted, maybe even tried to abort.
26:17A lot of times they don't bring all of their soul energy in because they say, oh, no, no, I remember this now.
26:23I don't think I want to do this.
26:25I think I'm going to, you know, try to go back to the other side.
26:28And that can happen with animals as well.
26:30At the hands of people especially, they have experienced a lot.
26:34And so the scared ones come in wanting to feel safe in a body again, wanting to heal the terror.
26:43And those of them, we know what they are.
26:44And in fact, one of your animals you mentioned, was it Ernest?
26:48Yeah.
26:48Oh, Ernie.
26:49He probably had a lot of terror in his background that he wanted to overcome by being here.
26:54And sometimes they will set up circumstances for that, to do it together.
26:58Interesting, because he, like I said, he bonded with me, and I could do anything with him.
27:04I could bathe him, whatever needed to be done, as long as it was me.
27:07But he wouldn't let anyone else close to him.
27:10Right.
27:11Yeah.
27:11And that can be, because they feel unsafe.
27:16Right.
27:16And so clearly you established this great bond with him.
27:20You had a contract to help him to heal.
27:23It was instant.
27:24And he literally let me touch him.
27:26Right.
27:27Right.
27:27Yeah.
27:28Yeah.
27:28In a way that nobody else could.
27:30So clearly that's going to be helping him.
27:32And it's helping you.
27:33You might have been clearing some karma with him.
27:35Well, yeah, the birth canal, the whole birth thing, I did not.
27:38I definitely came kicking and screaming.
27:41Ah.
27:41And came frank breach, very long labor, like butt first, didn't want to.
27:47At the last minute, no, no, no, I don't want to do this one.
27:50Right.
27:50So there was that.
27:51Yeah, sure.
27:51And we're all going to relate a little bit to each of the patterns.
27:55But some, there's going to be two to three that we're really going to feel as real for
27:59us.
28:00And those are the animals that are going to mirror that for us.
28:03Okay.
28:03That's the scared one.
28:04Then there's the needy one.
28:05Again, we're talking abandonment.
28:07Abandonment.
28:08Yes.
28:08And this usually starts in the oral developmental phase, about that time when the mother is
28:15trying to, you're trying to suckle on the mother's teat for the animals.
28:18And for some reason, you don't get enough or you don't have that spiritual connection.
28:23And of course, with big litters, with animals, that doesn't happen.
28:26Sometimes the mother passes.
28:27Sometimes the mother rejects them.
28:29Right.
28:29I mean, there's all kinds of things that can happen with animals.
28:32With people, we know those things as well.
28:34Sometimes the mother isn't able to nurse.
28:36Sometimes there's some type of the baby isn't able to digest the milk for whatever reason.
28:42And they don't get enough.
28:43Sometimes the mother is working.
28:46You know, none of it's wrong, of course.
28:47We all came in to heal these things together.
28:50And there's past life of famine, starvation, all kinds of things that you come forth with
28:55if you have any type of abandonment wounds to heal.
28:58And again, you're going to be coming together to heal that.
29:01And you're going to, as always, you're going to adapt coping mechanisms to help you do that
29:06with oral fixations, with the oral developmental phase of abandonment.
29:10You're going to be looking external to get filled because you don't know how to fill yourself
29:14because you weren't filled fully at a time when you needed to know that,
29:19oh, I'm sustained here.
29:20I can actually withdraw from the teat and I know that I have enough.
29:25Right.
29:25And so when you don't get that feeling, everything is external.
29:29I'm seeking to be filled externally.
29:31And I'm not going to have enough time, enough money, enough food, enough whatever.
29:35There's not enough syndrome.
29:36Same for the animal.
29:37Not enough food.
29:38You're going to know it until you start to satiate within and begin to really look at
29:43how do I fill this up?
29:44How do I satiate myself in ways that I want?
29:47And usually, of course, that starts with love.
29:49Yeah.
29:49And releasing emotions that is kind of mad about that I didn't get that.
29:53Right.
29:53Or whatever emotions there are that need to come up to clear so that we can begin implementing
29:58the newer ways and putting the reparenting in place that's needed.
30:02Mm-hmm.
30:03Okay.
30:03The sensitive one.
30:04Sensitive one.
30:05These first three that I mentioned, these are the ones that are really attracted to animals
30:09for filling, that feel safer to be around animals more so than next two.
30:14Next two, of course, as well.
30:15But these three really turn to animals because they're safer.
30:18Invasiveness is what's behind the sensitive ones.
30:21So these are people that were criticized, had a lot of trauma as well.
30:26Different.
30:27With the scared ones, it's more a physical trauma.
30:30If there's sexual abuse, it's very traumatic.
30:32With the sensitive ones, it's covert.
30:34It was the father who touched you.
30:37You couldn't say anything.
30:38It was manipulative or it was just an over-controlling parent or maybe even teasing from a parent
30:45or a brother or a sibling in some way, a cousin, some type of abuse.
30:50And then with animals, a lot of times they're over-controlled by the people that they first
30:54get there where they're so over-controlled and it feels invasive.
30:59On a chain, stop that.
31:00Right, right.
31:01Or in a very small space.
31:03Maybe they're kept in a crate, but they're over-controlled a lot.
31:08And they're going to be magnets to each other.
31:10These are people who are very, and animals, very empathetic because they have no boundaries
31:15because they were over-controlled.
31:17People came into their boundaries, so they're feeling everything.
31:20And they're very sensitive, become fabulous healers, I might add, because they are intuitive.
31:27But these are the animals that a lot of times they want to be under the bed.
31:31Not like the scared ones, they want to be in a really safe place.
31:34But the sensitive ones are just, let me observe this from afar because I know everything about
31:41everybody who's walking in this house, and I'm going to let you know who's good and who's not.
31:45Because they can read their energy.
31:47And the same with people.
31:49These are people who go into social situations.
31:51They're feeling everything.
31:52They can get very overwhelmed by that.
31:54And these sensitive animals are teaching them to take time for themselves,
31:58that it's okay to be wired differently, that they can, I don't have to be social all the time.
32:03I need to replenish my energy.
32:05I need to go take some meditation time to refuel.
32:09And that's okay.
32:12This is, I think, very helpful for people.
32:14Good.
32:15Then we have the protector.
32:16Yes, protector.
32:17The fire energy of all.
32:20The fire energy.
32:21And we know and hear these animals and people way in advance.
32:25They're righting the wrongs of the world.
32:27They're going to tell you who's right.
32:29Oh, my God.
32:29I have one of those.
32:30Oh, did you?
32:31Oh, yeah.
32:32Couldn't borrow the old sailor man.
32:34Yes.
32:35But these are the fire energy people and animals.
32:37And they are the doers.
32:38They're the masculine energy out of any of the patterns.
32:42And so these are the ones that, of course, are more reactive.
32:46These are the biters with a lot of the animals.
32:48And the people, not literally, but they are the ones that are the protectors and the invasiveness wounds or come together as pairs because they're going after the invasiveness and the invasiveness are trying to learn their boundaries so that they say enough to the ones that are the protectors.
33:05And a lot of times protective animals are in the life of an invasive person to provide protection for that part was never protected within you.
33:15Interesting.
33:16Because there's a lot of times I'll say, well, does the animal react just when they're with you?
33:20Yes, no one else but me.
33:22They don't do it with anyone else.
33:24Well, they're protecting a part of you that was never protected.
33:26There's the growth.
33:28Well, yeah.
33:28Finbar, oh, my gosh.
33:29A friend of mine had him.
33:31She was a prominent in the town, had a little magazine, and people had to go over to her place to work out their editorial stuff.
33:37And they'd be greeted at the door with this beast.
33:41He was this large Australian shepherd mix.
33:43And he would jump up and at the door and everyone was like this.
33:48Yes.
33:48Like, could you please stop him so I can come in?
33:51Yes.
33:52And she was very aggressive.
33:54Yes.
33:55And she bit.
33:55Right.
33:56And he bit.
33:57And was there a person that was marrying them?
34:00Yeah, his owner was just like that.
34:02Yeah.
34:02And so, ultimately, she had to move and no one would take him, the sucker.
34:08Everyone knows me.
34:09And she said, well, Regina, he's such a good boy, really.
34:12And I thought, really?
34:14So, of course, I go over to the house.
34:17I'm so stupid.
34:18I go over to the house.
34:19He comes, sits at my feet, rolls his head back on my knees and stares at me with these big puppy eyes.
34:27And he's like, I was totally in and conned from the first minute.
34:31And he was a total gentleman with me.
34:34But what turned out, when the people would come to deliver something in particular, it appeared he'd rush out the door before we could catch him.
34:41We thought he was trying to bite them.
34:43He was trying to herd them, it turned out.
34:45He was getting their sleeve trying to get them to come back to the house.
34:49So, very complex character.
34:51Anyway.
34:52Well, with those protectors, they're covering up their heart energy because they're protecting it.
34:59He was such a big heart.
35:00I mean, I've had so much wonderful, big hearted energy from dogs.
35:04Yes.
35:05You know, no matter how damaged they appear.
35:07So, that's, yeah.
35:08And the last one is the perfect one.
35:11Yeah.
35:12Feeling perfectionism.
35:14Yes.
35:14As in perfectionism.
35:16And this is more that detachment of the true self.
35:18And with people, and usually they're brought up in families where there's another perfectionistic parent in some way that's teaching them to focus more on external appearances, on material gains, on how they can show up.
35:34And every profile is about the learned progress of how they feel safe in the world.
35:39That's what's underneath it.
35:40And how the perfect one feels safe is by appearing perfect.
35:44And these are the people that, when they're fully immersed in it, of course, we have a little bit of each of them.
35:48These are the persons that always look perfect.
35:51Their lawns look perfect.
35:52Their houses are perfect.
35:53Their bells are all paid on time.
35:56Yes.
35:56There's refrigerators stocked and lined up.
35:59Yes.
36:00They make it all look easy.
36:02Yeah.
36:02And they bring a lot of envy from others, actually, as well.
36:05Uh-huh.
36:06From people who maybe...
36:08Like us, whose lives are a little messier.
36:10Right.
36:11Right.
36:11Yeah.
36:11A lot of heart protection around these animals and people as well.
36:15But once these two people, the people and the animal, I should say, come together and on a conscious journey, they're a dynamic duo.
36:23And they are serving the world in ways that no other parent can.
36:27Because they are grounded.
36:29They begin to have more of an open heart versus always being in the mind, always trying to figure things out.
36:35They're beginning to feel things out as they begin to heal on a conscious journey.
36:39And these animals are a little bit more detached.
36:41They're not the warm and fuzzy abandonment who say, I'll take the attention from everyone.
36:46These animals are more holding what I call transformational healing presence.
36:50And that's where they can walk in the room and everybody feels better.
36:54Everyone feels better.
36:55Uh-huh.
36:56But they aren't looking.
36:57They aren't going to be on your lap.
36:58They aren't going to be licking you.
36:59They're holding...
37:00And horses do this really well all the time.
37:02Oh, so amazing.
37:02They hold this sacred presence for others.
37:06And the people as well, when they really begin to heal behind the perfectionism and begin to open their heart more to the experiences,
37:14then they show up in this sacred, beautiful work that is undeniable for how many masses they can reach.
37:23Because these are people and animals who don't mind being seen.
37:26They're in the nursing homes.
37:28Because they're approaching others.
37:30They're guides.
37:32That's beautiful.
37:33We only have a minute or two left.
37:34So I would like to ask you to...
37:36You'd like to talk about the albatross.
37:38Let's just finish on the story of the albatross.
37:40Oh, the albatross.
37:41Yes.
37:42The albatross, I was definitely drawn as I was writing the book.
37:47I started reading more about the journey of the albatross.
37:50And they can fly.
37:51I forget how much it's.
37:52I think it's like 42,000 miles a year.
37:57And they begin in this one little place wherever they're born.
37:59And they make these trips around the world.
38:02And I began thinking, oh, my gosh, what are their journeys?
38:05What are their stories?
38:07What they might have seen.
38:09They can actually sleep while they're flying.
38:12Oh, my gosh.
38:12What an amazing trait.
38:14What's the wonderful thing about the albatross is that once they land, they don't sit around and say, I'm not going to do that again.
38:22I'm not going to take that journey.
38:24That hurricane I had to go around was too much.
38:27They pack up their bags and they take off on another journey around the world again.
38:33They don't sit and do what we do and say, I need to be in this safe place.
38:37They trust that they have an inner compass within them to guide them.
38:41And I believe that that's what animals teach us.
38:44That we have the beautiful inner compass within us to guide all of our journeys and our partnerships with them.
38:52I love that.
38:53And that's beautiful.
38:54Any final little quick thought before we say goodbye?
38:57Well, I'd like to say one thing.
38:58Yeah.
38:59In that when you have an animal that's looking at you like you're golden and they open your heart and they're looking at you and saying, you are the best thing since life's bread.
39:10You would best honor them.
39:12If you look in the mirror and you believe them, just believe them because that's why they came in your life.
39:18They don't want to hold your golden energy for you.
39:21Believe that you are what your animal sees in you.
39:24Oh, that's beautiful.
39:27Tammy, thank you so much.
39:28I've enjoyed every moment of this talk.
39:30Thank you so much.
39:31I have as well.
39:32Tammy's new book is called Your Animal, Your Soul Mirror.
39:36I love this topic, as you can tell.
39:38And I hope you've enjoyed the conversation and see yourself in it as well.
39:42And also your pets.
39:43You can go to Tammy's site at TammyBillips.com and learn much more about your connection with your pets.
39:49Until next time, thank you for joining us here on Open Minds.
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