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00:01Mary Cosby on The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City
00:04was the reason that people were watching the show.
00:07Married to her grandmother's husband.
00:10Thank you. That gives me creep vibes.
00:13You married your grandma, and that's it.
00:16She's a pastor.
00:17There was a lot of chatter that Mary was running a cult from Faith Temple.
00:26That's the form of manipulation.
00:27It was a lot of pressure.
00:29Where is all this money going?
00:31In mind-control cults, power, money, and sex are the three universals.
00:36He said me and Mary had an affair.
00:39He felt that Mary was God.
00:43I am!
00:44I said I am!
00:46I said I am!
00:48In the eyes of the Faith Temple Church, she is God.
00:59You can call me a fool for believing.
01:06You can call me a fool for talking about Mary as God or even messing with Mary like that.
01:11You can say that and I understand because I feel like a fool.
01:14I am just trying to find a place to fill my spirit.
01:17I thought it was being filled there.
01:20The moment that I came to the conclusion that we had really gone to the dark side is when
01:30Cameron told me that he had intercourse with Mary on a Saturday.
01:34And not only did she get up there and preach to us on a Sunday, she put him up there too.
01:41And all that was going on and I had no idea.
01:43Like I didn't know that she was like that as much as I know about her.
01:46I didn't know that she would lay on her back with a member of our church.
01:53I just know that if my grandmother was here, none of this would be happening.
01:59What goes on down in the heart to show me where you're letting him be till I'm ready to call him out?
02:11Wow.
02:12My favorite picture right there.
02:15Just an amazing woman.
02:19Rumor has it that this is me in this picture at a young age.
02:26Being born into a church where my grandmother was the pastor and the leader was very strict.
02:36It was just all about no sin.
02:40Hmm.
02:45I refer to Robert as my Gramps.
02:50It's because he was married to my grandmother for as long as I can remember.
02:54My dad left when I was five.
02:56And Gramps, he was just the father figure that Mary and I never really had.
03:02We had to revisit what we were to each other once he married my sister.
03:06That's a different kind of person.
03:08And the reality set in that I lost him.
03:11It just upset me more than anything.
03:14I didn't.
03:15Yeah.
03:16So.
03:17When the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City was announced, Mary being married to her step-grandfather was the only thing that people could talk about.
03:31I am still not over the fact that she married basically her grandpa.
03:34I don't care if he's her grandfather by blood or marriage.
03:37The point is, this is a man that used to sleep with her grandmother.
03:42But in my reporting, I discovered there was much more to the story.
03:49Robert was married to Mary's grandmother, Mama.
03:53Mama was the founder and pastor of Faith Temple Church.
03:57When Mama married Robert, he was about 20 years younger than her.
04:01Robert and Mama never had any children of their own.
04:04Mama had Mary's mother, Rosalyn, from a previous marriage, making Mary Robert's step-granddaughter.
04:12After Mama died, Robert married Mary.
04:17Robert was 20 years older than Mary.
04:19Together, they took over Mama's church, Faith Temple.
04:22If my grandmother saw me today, she would be my number one cheerleader.
04:27She would say, Mary, keep up the good work.
04:30I know that's what she'd say.
04:33I don't think that the members of Faith Temple would agree with Mary thinking Mama would be proud of her.
04:40knowing the state of the church today.
04:45This is Mama.
04:47She's my grandmother.
04:49Faith Temple was Mama's church.
04:51God called us.
04:53Yes.
04:54That's why y'all here.
04:55Yes.
04:56You have an ear to hear.
04:57Yes.
04:58The Faith Temple provided a good foundation, security, safety.
05:03We were very close back then.
05:05It was like everybody in the church was family.
05:09Eight million.
05:11God bless y'all.
05:12Mama taught us love.
05:14She taught us support.
05:16And I want her story out there because Robert and Mary tainted Mama.
05:22I want the people to know the truth.
05:27I absolutely believe that Mary and Robert are running a cult.
05:30Mary is responsible for destroying the church and the legacy that was attached to it.
05:40Former Faith Temple members had said that Mary and Robert ruined everything that Mama built.
05:45And so in order to understand where Faith Temple is today, we need to go back and understand Mama's history.
05:52My name is Dorothy Shannon.
06:03I'm 95 years old.
06:05I was a member of the temple church for 76 years.
06:09And Mama was the beginning of it.
06:12I was Mama's best friend.
06:15We worked together as missionaries in Indianapolis from 57 till 60.
06:22And the Lord began speaking, go to my city, Salt Lake City.
06:27Cosby was a part-time preacher in Indianapolis.
06:31She knew nothing of Utah, only that God had souls for her to save in the West.
06:37She was an Indiana-born minister who set out on foot to Salt Lake City in 1961.
06:43She and her four children, she told them, she said, well, we're going to walk.
06:49She and her four children traveled by bus, hitchhiked, and walked to Salt Lake City.
07:02Pentecostal preacher brings a new voice to historically Mormon Salt Lake City.
07:08You're talking about a young black woman coming to a predominantly white state.
07:14One of the women in Indianapolis told her, why are you going to Salt Lake City?
07:18She said, there's nothing out there but white folks and salt.
07:21They didn't know anything about Pentecostalism.
07:24At first, I didn't know about Salt Lake.
07:27See, I didn't know anything about the West.
07:29I never had been anyplace.
07:31I just felt like I was a stranger in a foreign language.
07:34And then there was white saints that came.
07:37There was no color barriers there.
07:41Mama accepted all people.
07:42If you were a soul and you loved God, Mama loved you.
07:48Mama began preaching from her living room, which was known as the Saint's House.
07:53And these sermons were so loud sometimes that people just passing by would peek their head inside
07:58and become part of this grassroots movement.
08:02This is how she grew her church from nothing into a bigger congregation.
08:08Outside of preaching, Mama was working housekeeping jobs and saving money in order to open up her first church.
08:16In 1968, Cosby built her first Salt Lake Church on Indiana Street.
08:22Five times a week, these cinder block walls came alive with the rocking sounds of Mama.
08:28Don't you believe a church should be a quiet, sacred kind of place?
08:34Usually they think you're supposed to be real quiet, but we're noisy.
08:39We believe in making a joyful noise into the Lord, and that's what he's needed.
08:44Pentecostal is the receiving of the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues.
08:50They called us the Holy Rollers. That's where that term came from.
08:56The Holy Ghost is simply the Spirit of God.
09:00So it was prophesied that God would pour out His Spirit upon all flesh.
09:05And when you receive the Holy Ghost, you allow God's Spirit to go in you.
09:10Hands may be going up. We've seen people shake. We've seen people cry.
09:15It suddenly would end, or I couldn't live it if I couldn't do it.
09:21It's not religion. It's salvation.
09:24People are appraising God. We're thanking God.
09:27We're making that joyful noise unto the Lord, like James Brown, Elvis, Tina Turner.
09:34They all got their background from the Pentecostal church.
09:38When mama started preaching, she gradually took you to a place where it was high octane.
09:50Like you was being in contact with the divine.
09:52She said she need a church help. She wants to go down in Jesus' name.
09:57She would show up to church and give everything.
10:02Mama was always doing things that would sustain Fay Temple.
10:16Mama wanted us to be established in a way where we didn't have to go outside to get money.
10:22So my grandmother started opening up these small businesses that we had.
10:27When mama arrived in Salt Lake City in the 1960s, only 1% of the population was black.
10:33It was a massively underserved community.
10:36So when mama opened up a variety of businesses, specifically geared towards the black residents,
10:42people flocked to her businesses because there wasn't anything for them at that time.
10:47Everything that mama did was for the church.
10:51Although mama established Faith Temple in Salt Lake City, she still remained connected to Indianapolis.
11:05She went back there for teachings that were known as tent meetings.
11:11Back in the 70s, going back to Indianapolis for the tent meetings, that became synonymous with Faith Temple.
11:20The church was just growing like ridiculous.
11:24We had a tent meeting in Indianapolis, Indiana on the south side.
11:29At least 40 to 50 converts that came back with us to Utah at that meeting.
11:36And Robert was one of them.
11:39When Robert Cosby came to Faith Temple, the arena changed.
11:45He's a monster.
11:46Robert came to Salt Lake, I think around 72 or 73.
11:50Mama, she moved him into the guest room.
11:59Mama's approach was that she was a mother.
12:03But he wasn't seeing it like that.
12:04Everybody else kind of saw what mama did not see.
12:09They were like, that boy got it bad.
12:13Mama just wasn't having it.
12:14She was kind of hung up on the age difference.
12:16The age difference is about 20 years.
12:17It wasn't an issue for the members in the church.
12:26It was made clear to Mama that the whole purpose of them getting together was because he was to finish the ministry.
12:31That she had started and created.
12:32In 1975, Mama married Robert Cosby.
12:34He said, I was 22 years old when I married Mary's grandmother.
12:37Whose granddaddy was I then?
12:38And just so you know, when Robert Sr. and Mary and Mary were married,
12:40they were married.
12:41The age difference is about 20 years.
12:42It wasn't an issue for the members in the church.
12:43It was made clear to Mama that the whole purpose of them getting together was because he was to finish the ministry that she had started and created.
12:48In 1975, Mama married Robert Cosby.
12:52He said, I was 22 years old when I married Mary's grandmother.
12:56Whose granddaddy was I then?
12:58And just so you know, when Robert Sr. and Mary's grandmother got married, Mary was three years old.
13:05After they got married, he was made the bishop.
13:08If he didn't love her, he fooled me.
13:11And I was right there with her.
13:13He appeared he really loved Mama.
13:15But something happens afterwards.
13:18My mom's relationship with Robert, he was this guy that he would do anything for.
13:27But he has so many different sides to him.
13:31You may see a guy who seems very pious and whatever else, but you have to understand that at any given moment, he can become anything.
13:41I'll give you an example.
13:43When Mary said, I would say, arrange marriage.
13:48And if you notice, he breathes in.
13:51After that, he says, she said, if anything ever happens to me, Bobby, I want you to marry one of my girls because they'll look out for you.
14:01And he goes into that mode.
14:03If things didn't happen to me, give me one of my daughters.
14:06And it's like, okay.
14:07He was angry.
14:09Robert Cosby was like Jekyll and Hyde.
14:14What's up, Ray?
14:16This is Demetrius, my brother here.
14:23And this is me.
14:26And of course, this is my mom.
14:29At three weeks old, I was adopted by her.
14:32Robert Cosby adopted Demetrius and I as well.
14:36Demetrius is my natural brother.
14:38We thought that he was always our father ever since we were little kids.
14:43I hated him.
14:45I couldn't stand him.
14:47If you look real close, you can see my brother's hand on my shoulder pulling me back to protect us.
14:59We used to have some meetings called the Brotherhood.
15:02Robert and some other elders would have meetings with all the young boys in the church every Saturday.
15:11He was trying to teach us to be men.
15:13Yeah, give me some push-ups.
15:14Yeah, give me some push-ups.
15:15What's wrong with you?
15:16Yeah, give me a chance.
15:18He'd go out.
15:19He'd make us do push-ups.
15:20And he'd make us run around the church and keep us up all day, literally all day.
15:26And it started becoming abusive.
15:35He would make us hold books up out like this.
15:38And then he would have us run in place.
15:41What you trying about?
15:42Get up, boy. Get up, boy.
15:45You know, because he was in the military and some other elders were in the military,
15:50so they were putting that in us as kids.
15:55For example, taking a pin and putting it under your knees so you wouldn't.
16:15Anyway, it's a memory.
16:17Yeah, okay, you got me on that one.
16:27So, your knees wouldn't hit this pan or it'd stick you, obviously.
16:34Uh, I remember a kid, and he couldn't do a push-up or a sit-up.
16:43And I remember one of the guys, one of the elders kicked him.
16:47He kicked the kid.
16:48It was all in the premise of God. Holiness in hell.
17:01And Mama didn't know, because she had nothing to do with that.
17:05We felt that if she found out that he was doing these things to us,
17:10that it would end up ultimately hurting her.
17:12So, we felt we were taking one, as they say, kind of taking one for the team.
17:15That was until Demetrius spilled the beans on him.
17:19Demetrius said, okay, Mom, I don't want to go to the meeting because they're beating on us.
17:23He said, we have to do dying cockroaches while they hold needles under our legs, punching us.
17:28And he just told everything.
17:31And the look on her face, I can't even describe it.
17:37It was hurt.
17:40There was anger.
17:42It was almost like it just took her gut out.
17:45She said, Bobby, is that true, what they're telling me?
17:49No, I'm just trying.
17:50Potatoes, they exaggerating.
17:52They exaggerating.
17:53And she said, those meetings are done.
17:56And then she just sent us to her.
17:58She said, y'all go downstairs.
18:01And I don't know what the conversation was after that.
18:13Mind control cult leaders want total control over their followers.
18:19In mind control cults, especially when it comes to children, it's horrendous that corporal punishment is often used to hit children with a belt, with a paddle, striking them, which we now know creates trauma.
18:40But it's this cultivation that you better follow the rules or else there'll be violence.
18:49There is a line in the Bible, spare the rod, spoil the child.
18:54So that verse is taken out of context to mean do it literally.
19:00But it's a very important point because it's creating dependence and obedience.
19:05The more I go down the Mary Cosby rabbit hole, the crazier the story gets, Mary is estranged from her mother.
19:14When I was younger, I had five siblings, and we never had enough.
19:29I mean, I was there.
19:30I grew up poor, and so I felt like, you know.
19:32Why was I poor? I didn't say that.
19:33Mary says a lot of things, and it's just contradictory to the way that we were raised and the way that we came up.
19:42I mean, we were on the welfare, and we didn't have anything, and it just, the struggle was always there.
19:48Don't get on TV talking about you had money because you know that that's not the case.
19:53In 1972, Mama's daughter, Rosalyn, gave birth to Mary.
19:59Mary had a difficult relationship with her mom, though both remained part of the church.
20:06When she was around 19, 20 years old, her and her mom had a falling out.
20:10Mama played a central role in raising Mary.
20:14Why are you called Mama?
20:16Really, God called me Mama.
20:18That was the starting of it.
20:21And I'm an overseer of a group of people, and they're more like my children.
20:27One thing that me and Mary have in common is my grandmother was more of a mother figure to us.
20:35Our mother is Rosalyn Cazares.
20:39We don't have a relationship with her.
20:41I just don't remember her being around a lot.
20:45She was a young mom, and my father had left.
20:50When my mom felt like she couldn't control the situation, my grandmother would move in and really help.
21:03Well, there's myself, Mary.
21:06Yeah, this was a group that we used to sing in, Cosby and Company.
21:12Mary was annoying.
21:14I just have to be honest.
21:16Mary was a troublemaker.
21:19And she needed a lot of attention.
21:23She was wild.
21:25She would run away from home a lot.
21:27So we get the call from Mama.
21:31Look for Mary.
21:32She's gone again.
21:33Troublemaker, man.
21:35You seem to like dudes with reputation and a little bit of money.
21:44Mary's always been a materialistic female.
21:47That was her type of guy back then.
21:50Unfortunately, I had a lot of young female friends that I get phone calls.
21:56We're looking for your cousin.
21:58What's going on now?
22:00I can recall one instance where Mary had caused some trouble between some of the other students,
22:09and she began to follow me home.
22:11And she runs up behind me, and she says, I need to walk with you.
22:15I need to walk with you.
22:16I think these girls want to jump me.
22:17Mary kept nonsense going on.
22:19There's a difference when you enroll in school versus attending.
22:23Attending class was not on her agenda.
22:25It seems like there was always some kind of manipulation or scandal on Mary's behalf.
22:32You know, there's some people everywhere they go, they start a fire, right?
22:36I feel like she's one of those people.
22:38She just was all about herself and all about the men around her that could do something for her.
22:45She tended to lean on me.
22:49When we became adults, Mary came to live with me.
22:54I got up to go to work one day, and my car was gone.
22:58It's one thing to take somebody's car for a night, but then she took it for two weeks, and I had to go find her.
23:05She was doing stuff that was bringing a reproach on the church.
23:11My grandmother knew, and she couldn't continue to let Mary get away with that, which is why she got disfellowshipped.
23:22Most churches have some way to excommunicate people if they, you know, do things that they're not supposed to be doing.
23:29We call it disfellowshipped, and it just means that you can come and listen and watch, but you're not allowed to participate in the service until you find your way back to God.
23:40It was 1997.
23:50I remember Robert calling me, crying, and I was like, what, what, what?
24:04He said, Danny, she left me, and he didn't know what to do.
24:07I remember him saying he was distraught.
24:12I just kept saying, it'll be all right, it'll be all right.
24:15Yeah, it was probably the most devastating thing I've ever experienced in my life.
24:21Mary had a real hard time even just being at my grandmother's going away, just sitting there knowing that she was disfellowshipped in the state that she was in.
24:37It was really hard for her.
24:38I remember personally her just being really down.
24:41Mama was everything to us.
24:43She was the glue.
24:45She was definitely the glue.
24:56When Mama passed away, it was like the blanket got lifted and then all the ugly surfaced.
25:03All the monsters came out.
25:05And when they came out, there was no one there to check any of it.
25:11The expectation as far as a succession plan was Bishop Robert Cosby would take over and continue teaching us because he was her husband.
25:23You want to be safe?
25:25No.
25:26Trust who?
25:27Trust me.
25:28I know you trust God, but you trust God, trust me.
25:34Trust me!
25:35Trust me!
25:36Trust me!
25:37Trust me!
25:38It seemed like he was doing that maybe the first few months.
25:44And then all the problems started after that.
25:47The reality was he never got to see himself as an equal until my grandmother left.
25:54And then he didn't know what to do.
25:56That's where Mary got into the picture.
25:59I thought that the story was that your grandmother, before she died, said she wanted your current husband, your then grandfather, to marry you to replace her.
26:11So basically Robert Sr. was 20 years younger than my grandmother.
26:15Okay.
26:16The grandmother felt like she robbed his youth.
26:18And so she says, if something ever happens, I want you to marry one of my girls because I know they'll be loyal to you and treat you good like you treated me.
26:26Mary Cosby was kicked out of the church.
26:29The mama, the grandmother, wanted her out of the church.
26:33Like, get your life together.
26:35This doesn't make sense.
26:36Nothing makes sense.
26:38Rigor mortis didn't even kick in before Mary started walking down the aisle with her grandfather.
26:43But why would Mary want to marry her step-grandfather?
26:46And why would he, aside from maybe being creepy, want to marry his step-granddaughter?
26:53Hmm.
26:54The day that I went to my grandmother's services, I picked Mary up and Mary was disfellowshipped.
27:07I just remember me and her had a conversation about it.
27:11And I think Gramps went on this mission to try to revive her spiritually.
27:18Next thing you know, she's in his house and they're doing God knows what.
27:22Robert, he was devastated.
27:24He had just lost the love of his life.
27:27And then you've got this young girl who is her granddaughter who is consoling him.
27:32I mean, he told us they went to dinner every night and she'd make him talk about mama and it helped heal him.
27:41I remember my Gramps bought Mary a BMW.
27:45Random.
27:46Okay.
27:47You know, there's like 25 grandchildren.
27:48I'm right here.
27:49I'm waiting for mine.
27:50But anyway.
27:51She was showing him a new way of living in Christianity.
27:56You know, the things that we just weren't doing, you know, like the drinking and stuff.
28:00It's also alleged that the congregation was starting to talk and take notice that Mary was spending so much time with Bishop Cosby.
28:07You are a young woman and you're not some naive little girl.
28:12How Robert all of a sudden decided that he's supposed to marry Mary.
28:21I don't know where that came from.
28:23When my grandmother left, she left me her empire.
28:27Homes, churches, daycares, a mortgage company, restaurants, including her husband.
28:36Some of the things that she's saying about it being an inheritance, which is one of the biggest lies that she told.
28:46Every time she opens her mouth, she's telling the story.
28:49But more importantly, for him to allow her to get on TV and say, Mama wanted her to have this and that and the other.
28:58He knows better.
29:00It made people uncomfortable.
29:02And then he started using God.
29:04He started bringing God into it and asking different members, is God talking to you about him marrying Mary?
29:11I was like, what?
29:12My gramps called me up and asked me if the Lord is telling me anything about him and Mary.
29:22He was saying that God was telling him to marry my sister.
29:27He was like, okay, this is weird.
29:30The only thing that I said to him, I said, do I still get to call you gramps?
29:34It was almost like, is this guy crazy now?
29:37He goes, there's no relation. We're not related.
29:39I said, I know we're not related. That's common sense.
29:42But that's your granddaughter.
29:44And he said, don't worry, God will make it plain to you.
29:49The biggest thing that I would say in my mind horrifies me is that Mary was married at the time.
29:56Did you know that Mary Cosby was allegedly married before she married Robert?
30:03Why would mama want Mary to marry Bob Senior if divorce isn't allowed in their church?
30:09The pieces aren't fitting.
30:11If anybody sold they sold for money, this is it right here.
30:15Suzanne from Detroit, Michigan said, Mary, there are rumors online that say you were allegedly married before marrying your step-grandfather.
30:27Is there any truth to this?
30:28Yes.
30:29Did you leave your husband to marry your step-granddaddy?
30:31No, I did not leave my husband. He, no.
30:34In the reunion show, when Mary's asked about her first marriage, she gets flustered when pressed about the timeline of when that marriage ended and when she started things up with Robert.
30:45Did you divorce him to marry your step-grandfather?
30:49We got divorced because he, we just got divorced for irreconcilable differences. Just put it that way, Andy. It had nothing to do with Robert Senior. Nothing.
30:59Mary isn't being entirely truthful about the timeline of her divorce in her marriage to Robert.
31:06I found that she got a divorce from her first husband September 8th of 1998.
31:13A new marriage certificate was issued to Mary and Robert September 27th of 1998.
31:20So 19 days later, after she's granted her divorce, she marries Robert.
31:25The timeline shows there was some crossover happening.
31:29Mary's not telling the full story about what happened.
31:32Dana is Mary's first husband.
31:39He loved the mess out of Mary.
31:43She wasn't ready to get married and she's always been one that is after money, right?
31:50And he certainly didn't have any money.
31:53She went from struggling with Dana to overnight going to fancy restaurants with Robert.
32:00Mary's kink is money.
32:03It's not even really power.
32:05He wanted Mary.
32:06All he had to do was show her some cash.
32:08You show Mary some cash and you're king.
32:12I just think that her motive was lifestyle related.
32:17Gramps and Mary were trying to do something.
32:24So they had this whole meeting on Dana.
32:27They really set up the narrative like the reason why Mary went through that whole disfellowship thing and all that was really because of him.
32:38Because he doesn't want her close to God and he's jealous of her anointing.
32:44He was just basically ridiculed in front of the entire church and being accused that he hates Mary and being told to say it.
32:53It was two or three hours of just beating him down.
32:58Dana's been a member of this church his whole life.
33:01He was chastised.
33:02He was rebuked, humiliated.
33:04All I know is with Mama, that meeting wouldn't have took place.
33:09Mama loved Dana.
33:10She would have never done that.
33:14I think Robert and Mary did it to Dana because they had decided they were going to get married.
33:20They had to get rid of him.
33:22We had a meeting on a Friday.
33:25Saturday morning they were at Dana's house with divorce papers for him to sign.
33:39I was against Gramps and Mary getting married.
33:42I spent a lot of time with this eternal torment thinking I was going to hell.
33:49There was this element of if you go against Mary and Robert, you are going against God and therefore your salvation is at risk.
33:59They put this fear on you.
34:00God's going to replace you.
34:02God don't want everybody.
34:03You know, you're hearing stuff like that.
34:05She made God like the boogeyman.
34:07You know, he's going to get you.
34:08If you have an opinion about something, if you don't agree with something, then you are the outcast and you are of the devil and you are stopping God's progression.
34:23They did all of that so Gramps and Mary could get together.
34:27Very cult-like.
34:30Mind control cults, if they're religious, they typically like to use God or the divine as a weapon or a tool of complete control and domination.
34:42There are those religious figures who emphasize love God with all your heart, mind and strength.
34:50God bless y'all.
34:51I love y'all.
34:52Y'all know I do, don't you?
34:54So it's a love doctrine.
34:55But these mind control cults are focusing on the fear and domination notion of God.
35:04That unless you do what you're supposed to do, you're going to get wiped out, a la Noah and the flood.
35:11The use of God as the omnipotent power that's going to harm people is just a reflection of phobia indoctrination.
35:21So they emphasize fear and control.
35:25Rumors begin swirling at Faith Temple that Robert and Mary are planning to get married.
35:31Robert's telling everyone this is God's plan, that God wants him to marry Mary.
35:39Meanwhile, Mary's mother, Rosalyn, is adamantly against this.
35:44And it will come to a head at what's known as the walkout service.
35:48It was out of control.
35:50It's wild west.
35:51There was a walkout service where Rozzy Casares, Mary's mother, came in and got up in the pulpit.
36:14They had been trying to convince my mom that Mary and my gramps were supposed to get married and my mom wasn't having it.
36:32None of you didn't call and ask my side of the story.
36:35You just went against me because you got something in your heart in you.
36:39She's supposed to bring in the choir so they can sing, but they came in like because of war zone.
36:47And as she stood there, she pounded and stomped and held her mic.
36:52And this church is coming down.
36:54Tonight, as we stand, we fight as we fall.
36:56There's people going down.
36:58She had a group with her and, I mean, there was people that I had loved and they looked at us as if we were just pure enemies.
37:08Members that were with her were arguing with members that were with him.
37:11And this was going on in a service.
37:12They were name calling and hints of violence.
37:23You know, I remember people getting hit with umbrellas.
37:26So I called the police and I tell them there's a riot and they stormed down the aisle.
37:32They turned just mean.
37:46I mean, there was people pushing people out of seats, you know, moving people and shoving and like getting in people's faces.
37:52And it was horrifying.
37:53It shows like the dramatic effect that Robert making that decision to marry Mary had on the church.
38:14It's not anything that my grandmother would have approved of.
38:17You know, I know he's not blood, but it is incest because he's the only grandfather that we really knew.
38:22Just straight Sodom and Gomorrah.
38:27So now it's no longer Mama's church.
38:31What everyone knew and loved as Faith Temple.
38:33Like Faith Temple had completely changed.
38:35It has new leadership and two new branches that don't with each other at all.
38:39This is the craziest story on Housewives. It has to be.
38:45My grandson, Mary, got married in a private ceremony.
38:56I just decided if I'm going to be here, I'm going to wait and see what happens.
39:02You know, what are they going to do?
39:04So I waited to see.
39:06Shortly after the announcement of marriage, it's Mary is now the choir director.
39:14You're rolling Mary into positions of power and, you know, you're telling Mary that she's over these elders who have been in this church for years because she's my wife.
39:24She said, this one is going to come back in the form of Mama. It's going to come again.
39:31And that's when the trouble started.
39:33I said, did you know Mama? Well, then you ought to know me.
39:41When Robert and Mary take over Faith Temple, things turned up a notch.
39:45They started using their position in the church to chastise members.
39:53Robert would call and say, you need to come up the house.
39:56There was very few people that you trusted.
39:59This is torture, but this is what it's going to take for me to get into heaven.
40:04He came and he shoved me.
40:06You better stay in line, otherwise it could happen to you next.
40:10He said, I just wish I could go to sleep and not wake up.
40:15Till she didn't.
40:17It's unbelievable, the pain.
40:20That's when Faith Temple starts looking like the cult.
40:24And Mary Cosby disappears.
40:27Mary Cosby did not attend the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Season 2 reunion.
40:32The controversial Housewives skipped the annual end of season showdown.
40:36It's about manipulation. It's about control. It's about segregation.
40:41Run for your life. Get out. You don't have to go to another church.
40:44Just get out of there.
40:45Just get out of there.
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