Amit Shah Attacks Mamata Banerjee On Infiltration And Demographic Change In Bengal Ahead Of 2026 Polls

India Today

A political dispute intensifies in West Bengal ahead of the 2026 assembly elections, with Union Home Minister Amit Shah accusing Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee's government of facilitating illegal infiltration to alter state demographics for vote bank politics. Shah stated that the BJP, if elected, would end this practice. In a sharp rebuttal, Banerjee compared BJP leaders to mythological figures 'Duryodhan and Dushasan' and questioned why the central government's Border Security Force has not secured the borders. The controversy also includes debates on the issuance of identity documents to migrants. Separately, the report covers the diplomatic fallout from an upcoming film, 'Battle of Galwan'. Chinese state media has reacted strongly, accusing the film of distorting the facts of the 2020 Galwan Valley clash. This has led to analysis of the broader implications for India-China relations and the status of de-escalation along the Line of Actual Control (LAC).

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00:00There is a sharp spike in the political temperature in Bengal with Union Home Minister Amit Shah

00:06raising the issue of ghuzpaitiyas or illegal infiltrators from Bangladesh

00:11changing the demographic profile of the state.

00:15He took on Mamata Banerjee and the Bengal government for not providing land to the border security force

00:20to carry out fencing or to build the border outposts.

00:24Bengal Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee hit right back

00:27drawing parallels between Duryodhana and Dushasana and the BJP leadership.

00:31I'll get you much more on our top story.

00:41Bengal Battle for Ballot

00:43You have been in the Nigevani and you have been changing the demographic and you have been changing the Vought Bank.

00:54Infiltration takes center stage

00:59Sharplags, Fencing, Land Delays

01:08The Bengal Ghuzpaitia debate, that is our top focus on India first.

01:15The Bengal Ghuzpaitia debate, that is our top focus on India first.

01:21So the battle lines are very clearly drawn, the TMC took on the BJP head-on, saying if infiltration is happening from Bangladesh along the Bengal border, explain, did you carry out the terror strikes in Pehelga?

01:35Explain, the blast that took place in Delhi, the home minister spoke of Bengal government not clearing land for BSF to fence a portion of the Bengal-Bangladesh border and he said, they are enabling Ghuzpaitias.

01:50They are altering demographic profile in Bengal, which is detrimental to the interests of Bengalis, but they are doing it for a vote bank.

02:09That's coming up at 8.30 tonight. After Pakistan being upset over Dhurandhar, an Indian film, China and Chinese state media very upset over an upcoming Salman Khan starrer on Galwan.

02:26Why? Why this fear of this Indian film industry or films being made in India? Is the Indian film industry upsetting the apple cart on fake narrative, very carefully constructed and peddled by a certain ecosystem in our country?

02:42That's coming up at 8.30 tonight. I'm Gaurav Savant. As always, let's get started.

02:47Union Home Minister Amit Shah is on a three-day visit to Bengal to kickstart BJP's poll campaign for the 2026 assembly elections and he's stirred up on its nest.

02:57He's accused the Mamata Banerjee government in Bengal of facilitating infiltration of Bangladeshis to the state that he insists had dangerously altered the demography of the state.

03:09Mamata Banerjee hit right back accusing the BJP of turning the special intensive revision exercise into a scam.

03:16which he insists was being conducted using artificial intelligence.

03:20We get you more in this report on the battle for Bengal.

03:25You have been doing a lot of damage in the Nigerian country.

03:30And gradually changing the demography of Bengal, you will be doing a lot of damage.

03:36Home Minister Amit Shah, sounding the poll bugle in Bengal, launched a direct and scathing attack on the Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee and her government.

03:47At the centre of this political slugfest is infiltration and vote bank politics.

03:54Why is it not on the border of Gujarat and Rajasthan? Why is it not on the border of Punjab? Why is it not on the border of Kasmir? Why is it not on the border of Kasmir?

04:05Shailetj, the TMC government is deliberately not providing land for border fencing along the Bangladesh border.

04:12The BJP has made it clear.

04:26If voted to power, identifying and expelling infiltrators will be a top priority.

04:45But the Chief Minister has hit back questioning the centre's narratives on infiltration, throwing the spotlight back on national security failures.

05:13Mamata Banerjee countered, saying border security lies with central forces, not the state.

05:38The TMC chief also claimed that Bengalis are being harassed across the Bengal.

05:54The poll pitch is set in Bengal. With the Safran party setting the target of two-thirds majority and infiltration, as the core election flashpoint, the political battle in West Bengal is heating up.

06:20With Jitendra Bahadur and Inderjee Kundu, Bureau Report, India Today.

06:27Joining me on this debate on the battle for Bengal, Garga Chatterjee, General Secretary of Bangla Pocko.

06:36R.P. Singh is national spokesperson of the BJP. Shikha Mukherjee is a senior journalist and analyst.

06:42Rishi Bagri joins us as a political analyst on this broadcast. We will continue this conversation.

06:47But before that, quickly listen in to Union Home Minister's statement in Parliament on the issue of fencing, the issues that the border security force and the Ministry of Home Affairs were facing in Bengal.

07:02It says fencing, which is 563 km.

07:20जहाए 112 km in fencing होई नहीं सिबता।

07:24और 450 km

07:26जहाँ fencing होता है

07:28वहाँ बावी है।

07:29अब मैं वह बताना चाहता हूँ

07:30कि क्यों बावी है।

07:32ए 450 km के लिए

07:35मानेवर मैंने

07:36डियो लेटर लिखकर

07:3810 reminder करें हैं

07:40बंगाल सरकार भुमी नहीं देती

07:42मानेवर

07:46Oh yeah, it's a 450 km के लिए

07:51गुरू सचीव बंगाल के मुख्य सचीव के साथ साथ मिटिंग करे

07:55यह भूमी नहीं देते हैं

07:58मानेवर जहां फैंसिंग लगाने जाते हैं

08:01सत्तादारी पार्टी का कैडर आकर हुर्दन करता है

08:05धार्मिक नारे लगाता है

08:07और मानेवर मैं कहना चाता हूँ

08:10कि यह 400 km फैंसिंग रुकी है

08:15तो केवल और केवल बंगाल सरकार की दया की धुरुष्टी गुस पेटियों के पर जो है

08:21इसके कारण यह सवाल हमें करते हैं

08:25अभी भी किया कि रूंग गया दिल्ली तक आगया आपके नाग के निचे आ है

08:30गूस कर आते हैं इनको अधारकार दादा कौन देता है

08:34नागरिक कहां के बने है

08:37कहां के बने है

08:39जीतने बंगलादेशे पकड़े गए

08:4224 पर गणा जीले का अधारकार और नागरिक्ता है मानिवर

08:46Shikha Mukherjee, your reading of the Home Minister's charge in Parliament on the floor of the House

08:55and now in Bengal

08:56how major an issue is

08:59घुस पैथिया or illegal infiltrators

09:01from Bangladesh an issue

09:03in Bengal?

09:06It's because of two reasons

09:08one is that

09:09Ghuspetia or the

09:12politics of infiltration

09:14and infiltrators

09:15their religious identity

09:18more than anything else

09:19because Mr. Abidjah has made it very clear

09:21that Ghuspetia equals

09:23the demographic change

09:25and the demographic change

09:27that he's referring to

09:28is the

09:30phase at which

09:33the Muslim population has risen

09:35in West Bengal in certain parts

09:37vis-a-vis

09:38the stability of the

09:41Hindu population

09:43and the proportions

09:45of one of the Hindus

09:47to the Muslims

09:48in West Bengal

09:49that is the basic

09:51Ghuspetia argument

09:52so if you look at

09:53the Ghuspetia argument

09:54this has been going on

09:56for a long while

09:56and there have been

09:58various claims

10:00about the percentage

10:01of Muslim population

10:02in West Bengal

10:03and this gets linked

10:04to the other part

10:06of the political narrative

10:07which is

10:08the idea

10:10of a vote bank

10:12a Muslim vote bank

10:13and the increase

10:14of Muslim vote bank

10:16by the infiltrate

10:18by giving

10:19documents

10:20to

10:21and legalizing

10:22the infiltrators

10:24mostly

10:24Muslims

10:25now

10:26all of this

10:27has been

10:28a very long

10:29this has had

10:30years of

10:31building up

10:32as a narrative

10:33for a political campaign

10:36it has been ongoing

10:372021

10:37the same thing happened

10:392024

10:39it was the same thing

10:41and in 2016

10:42also

10:43it was the same thing

10:43however

10:44what makes this

10:46more urgent

10:47in this particular time

10:49in this particular

10:502026

10:51election

10:52is very simple

10:53it's the SIR

10:54and the SIR

10:56process

10:56is all about

10:57identifying

10:58the ineligible

11:00voter

11:01the illegal

11:02migrant

11:03and

11:04removing them

11:05from the polls

11:06now that

11:07raises the fundamental

11:08question

11:09which Mr.

11:10Mr.

11:11Amit Shah

11:12in today's meeting

11:12press conference

11:13addressed

11:14which is that

11:14Ghuzpeta

11:15equals demographic

11:16change

11:16equals Muslim

11:17infiltration

11:18now

11:20is that

11:21exactly

11:21what the SIR

11:22is going to

11:23reveal

11:23I doubt it

11:24because

11:25the SIR

11:26is not going

11:28to look at

11:28the religious

11:29identity

11:30of people

11:30but the papers

11:31that they have

11:32and that is

11:33going to pose

11:34a problem

11:34however

11:36what Mr.

11:37Shah's

11:37and the BJP's

11:39campaign up

11:40to this point

11:41Mr. Shah

11:41certainly took it

11:42up several notches

11:43is that

11:44this is

11:46the one

11:47issue

11:47on which

11:48the Hindu

11:49majority

11:50in West Bengal

11:51is expected

11:53to respond

11:55and react

11:56and give

11:57the BJP

11:58the two

12:00thirds majority

12:01that he's

12:01talking about

12:02and how

12:03is this

12:03and let me

12:05just explain

12:05a little bit

12:06more

12:06just one

12:07one more

12:07which is

12:09that if you

12:09look at the

12:10Hindu majority

12:12then the

12:13Hindu majority

12:14is comprises

12:15both those

12:16people who have

12:16been in West Bengal

12:17for before

12:19partition

12:19and those

12:20who came in

12:20after partition

12:21yes

12:22the impact

12:23is supposed

12:24to be

12:25on boats

12:26it is

12:27the scare

12:28is about

12:29the demographic

12:30change

12:30now

12:31the BJP

12:32is

12:33constantly

12:34harping

12:35on this issue

12:36the SIR

12:36is going to

12:37impact the

12:38Hindus

12:38as much

12:38as anybody

12:39else

12:40amongst those

12:41who came in

12:42across the

12:42water

12:43and then

12:44Mr.

12:44Pasha has

12:45made a

12:45further point

12:46one small

12:46point

12:47which is

12:48that nobody

12:49who came

12:49on grounds

12:50of religious

12:51persecution

12:52or as

12:52refugees

12:53will be

12:54struck off

12:55the list

12:56now how

12:58that is

12:58going to

12:58work out

12:59in terms

12:59of the

13:00existing

13:01framework

13:02of the

13:04SIR

13:04process

13:05remains to

13:06be seen

13:06and therefore

13:07it is going

13:07to be

13:08because

13:08which is

13:10where the

13:10CAA

13:11kicks in

13:11you know

13:12citizenship

13:13amendment

13:13act

13:14that the

13:14persecuted

13:14Hindu

13:16Sikh

13:16Jain

13:17and

13:18Christian

13:18minorities

13:19living in

13:19Bangladesh

13:20Afghanistan

13:20Pakistan

13:21they

13:22get

13:23citizenship

13:23in India

13:24will that

13:24date

13:25coincide

13:27and help

13:27with the

13:28Hindus

13:28that remains

13:29to be seen

13:30but R.P. Singh

13:31TMC on the

13:32issue of

13:32ghuspaitiyas

13:33or infiltrators

13:34Mamata Banerji

13:35is not taking

13:36it lying down

13:36she is hit

13:37right back

13:37at the BJP

13:38saying where

13:39did infiltrators

13:40come from

13:40in Pehalgaam

13:41attack

13:41or for

13:42Delhi

13:42blast

13:43so the BJP

13:44is being accused

13:45of using

13:45ghuspaitiyas

13:46only as an

13:47issue

13:47to polarize

13:48in Bengal

13:49sir

13:49give me a moment

14:12I am unable

14:12to hear you

14:13we will try

14:14and reestablish

14:15shall link

14:15with you

14:16but let me

14:17bring in

14:18Rishi Bagri

14:19to respond

14:20to this

14:20Rishi

14:20is

14:22is this

14:23an issue

14:24in these

14:25elections

14:25the issue

14:26of ghuspaitiyas

14:27and the changing

14:28demographic profile

14:29because the TMC

14:30says BJP

14:31only raises

14:31the issue

14:32of ghuspaitiya

14:32it's a self

14:34goal

14:34it's the job

14:35of the BSF

14:36or the MHA

14:37to stop

14:37infiltration

14:38they failed

14:39and they are

14:40blaming the

14:40Bengal government

14:41if you see

14:44the data

14:45I mean

14:46just go

14:47and check

14:47the data

14:48of the Kolkata

14:49itself

14:49in from

14:502002

14:51SIR

14:52to 2025

14:53SIR

14:54the rise

14:55of the

14:55total

14:55voter count

14:56is just

14:564%

14:57whereas

14:58the voter

14:59count

14:59rise in

15:00Morshidabad

15:01Malda

15:01and many

15:02minority

15:03dominated

15:03districts

15:04is more

15:04than 60-70%

15:05now you

15:06can imagine

15:07that this

15:08is not

15:09normal

15:09I mean

15:10a normal

15:11you know

15:11what do you

15:13call

15:13normal

15:13population

15:14doesn't

15:14like

15:15this

15:15this is

15:16the

15:16handiwork

15:16of the

15:17complete

15:17infiltration

15:18which is

15:19happening

15:19here

15:19now I

15:20give you

15:20some

15:20examples

15:21like

15:22if you

15:22remember

15:22there was

15:23recently

15:23there was

15:24a

15:24there's

15:24a

15:25female

15:25there was

15:25a

15:26Bangladeshi

15:26actress

15:27Shanta

15:28Paul

15:28who got

15:29caught

15:30actually

15:30she was

15:30a

15:31Bangladeshi

15:31she got

15:31caught

15:32with

15:32two

15:32Aadhar

15:33cards

15:33one

15:33voter

15:34cards

15:34and

15:34one

15:34Russian

15:35card

15:35all

15:35were

15:36issued

15:36from

15:37this

15:38Bengal

15:38the

15:39Aadhar

15:39card

15:39and the

15:40Russian

15:40card

15:40were issued

15:40by the

15:41West Bengal

15:41government

15:42basically

15:42if you

15:42say

15:43if you

15:43can

15:44say

15:44so

15:44there

15:45are

15:45many

15:45such

15:46rackets

15:46which

15:46are

15:47getting

15:47busted

15:48these

15:48are

15:48the

15:48rackets

15:49which

15:49takes

15:50money

15:50and

15:51issue

15:51ID

15:52cards

15:52and

15:53other

15:53things

15:54which

15:54help

15:54them

15:54to get

15:55the

15:55passport

15:55and

15:55even

15:56the

15:56voter

15:57cards

15:57so

15:57basically

15:58all

15:58this

15:59most

16:00of

16:00these

16:00people

16:00who

16:00get

16:01caught

16:01with

16:01all

16:02these

16:02fraudulent

16:03cards

16:03are

16:03coming

16:03from

16:03the

16:09so

16:09that

16:09is

16:10one

16:10thing

16:10which

16:10is

16:11there

16:11so

16:11it's

16:11very

16:12important

16:12that

16:13secondly

16:15you also

16:16need to

16:17understand

16:17that

16:17a very

16:18big

16:18large

16:19chunk

16:19of

16:19our

16:19border

16:20in

16:21Bangladesh

16:22between

16:22the West Bengal

16:23and Bangladesh

16:23is

16:24unfenced

16:24most of

16:26it

16:26the land

16:28has not

16:28been given

16:28to the

16:29BSF

16:29to set

16:31up

16:31the

16:31boundary

16:31wall

16:31I think

16:33the central

16:33government

16:34is

16:34repeatedly

16:35asking

16:35the

16:35land

16:36but

16:36I think

16:36Mamata

16:37Banerji

16:37is reluctant

16:38to give

16:38the land

16:39so

16:39you can

16:40imagine

16:40and

16:40then

16:41they are

16:41a very

16:42more

16:42interesting

16:42thing

16:42they are

16:43basically

16:44there is

16:46a called

16:46Damad and

16:48Jamais

16:48of

16:48Bangladeshi

16:49they are

16:51being

16:51basically

16:52settled

16:53in

16:53places

16:54like

16:54Jamai

16:55Pada

16:55there is

16:56a places

16:57called

16:57Jamai

16:57Pada

16:58Damad

16:58Pada

16:58in

16:59West Bengal

17:00officially

17:00they are

17:00in

17:01those

17:01are

17:03in

17:03like

17:04in

17:04Kulpi

17:04in

17:0424th

17:05Parganaz

17:06where

17:06all

17:07these

17:07Bangladeshi

17:07people

17:08come

17:08they marry

17:09the local

17:09Muslim

17:10woman

17:10and they

17:11settle there

17:11as a

17:12voter

17:12they settle

17:13there as

17:13a person

17:14they get

17:14all

17:14they basically

17:15I'll get

17:16Shikha

17:17Mugarji

17:17to respond

17:18to that

17:18but if

17:18I have

17:18R.P.

17:19R.P.

17:20R.P.

17:21R.P.

17:22Singh

17:22is back

17:23R.P.

17:23Singh

17:23respond

17:24is this

17:25just a

17:25political

17:25issue

17:26during

17:27elections

17:27because

17:27Mamata

17:28Banerji

17:28and you

17:29heard

17:29her

17:29where

17:30she

17:30very

17:31clearly

17:31says

17:31where

17:31did

17:32infiltrators

17:32come

17:32from

17:33in

17:33Pehalgaam

17:34did

17:34you

17:35do

17:35Pehalgaam

17:36what

17:36about

17:36the

17:37terrorists

17:37who

17:37carried

17:38out

17:38Delhi

17:38plus

17:38the

17:39BJP

17:39is

17:39only

17:39using

17:40Guzpatia

17:41as

17:41an

17:41issue

17:41to

17:42polarize

17:42as

17:43Shikha

17:44Bukadji

17:44also

17:44points

17:45out

17:45go

17:47on

17:47sir

17:47respond

17:48your

17:50channel

17:51and

17:51other

17:52various

17:52channels

17:52just

17:53recently

17:54covered

17:54how

17:55they

17:55are

17:56shifting

17:56Kalpasta

17:57and

17:57other

17:58cities

17:58and

17:59areas

18:00were

18:00vacated

18:02because

18:03they

18:03can't

18:05say

18:05that

18:06and

18:07your

18:09channel

18:09ask

18:10them

18:10who

18:11is

18:12the

18:12voter

18:12card

18:12they

18:13sent

18:15the

18:15card

18:15that

18:16we

18:16want

18:17to

18:17the

18:17TNC

18:20and

18:21we

18:21said

18:21hot

18:22TNC

18:22where is

18:24the

18:24equation

18:24and

18:25this

18:25is

18:25not

18:26social

18:29media

18:30I am

18:30talking

18:31about

18:31the

18:31main

18:31line

18:31link

18:32media

18:32so

18:34I think

18:34we will

18:34have to

18:34spend

18:35another

18:35moment

18:35trying

18:36to

18:36reestablish

18:36that

18:36audio

18:37link

18:37with

18:37you

18:37but

18:38Shikha

18:39Mukherjee

18:39the

18:40home

18:40minister

18:40referred

18:41to

18:41multiple

18:41letters

18:42and

18:42meetings

18:43with

18:43the

18:44Bengal

18:44government

18:44and

18:44yet

18:45land

18:45was

18:46not

18:46allotted

18:46to the

18:47border

18:47security

18:48force

18:48land

18:52the

18:52home

18:53minister

18:53referred

18:54to

18:54multiple

18:55meetings

18:55that

18:56were

18:56taking

18:56place

18:57that

18:57BSF

18:58was

18:58not

18:58getting

18:59land

18:59what is

19:00your

19:00reading

19:01of the

19:01allegation

19:01that the

19:02Mamata

19:02Banerjee

19:02government

19:03is actually

19:03facilitating

19:04infiltration

19:05of

19:05Bangladeshis

19:06deliberately

19:07changing

19:07the

19:08demographic

19:08profile

19:08and

19:09therefore

19:10land

19:10is not

19:10being

19:10provided

19:11I want

19:12you to

19:12just

19:12go

19:13through

19:13this

19:13ministry

19:14of

19:14home

19:14affairs

19:15press

19:15release

19:15this

19:16is an

19:16August

19:162025

19:17press

19:18release

19:18that

19:18talks

19:19about

19:19roughly

19:19456

19:20kilometers

19:21of land

19:21that was

19:22identified

19:23for border

19:23fencing

19:23148 odd

19:25kilometers

19:26that was

19:26still pending

19:27because land

19:27acquisition

19:28was not

19:28taking place

19:29work on

19:30another

19:30220 kilometers

19:31was not

19:32happening

19:32Bengal

19:32government

19:33had either

19:33stalled

19:34the payment

19:34or had

19:35not given

19:36cabinet

19:36approval

19:37how do

19:37you read

19:38this

19:38madam

19:38well I

19:40think

19:40it is

19:41a problem

19:42but there

19:42are land

19:43acquisition

19:44issues

19:44in West

19:45Bengal

19:45and that

19:46has to

19:46be dealt

19:47with

19:47if the

19:48Mamata

19:48Banerjee

19:49government

19:49is going

19:49slow

19:50on it

19:50then that's

19:50a problem

19:51then the

19:52accusation

19:52stands

19:53but to

19:54kind of

19:55infer

19:56from that

19:57that

19:57of the

19:582,216

20:01kilometers

20:02of the

20:03border

20:04there is

20:05less than

20:07one-fourth

20:08of the

20:08part

20:09of that

20:10land

20:10approximately

20:11has not

20:12been handed

20:13over

20:13so three-fourths

20:14of the

20:14land has

20:15been covered

20:15and of

20:16that 77

20:17kilometers

20:18has just

20:18been handed

20:19over in

20:20August or

20:21something

20:21and then the

20:22rest of it

20:22has to be

20:23it remains to

20:23be handed

20:24over because

20:24there are

20:25issues

20:25112

20:26Mr.

20:27Amitra

20:27himself has

20:28come up

20:29with these

20:29figures

20:29I think

20:29378

20:30kilometers

20:31land

20:32acquisition

20:32is yet to

20:33be initiated

20:34148 odd

20:35kilometers

20:35state government

20:36work is

20:37happening

20:37it's in

20:40various stages

20:40of acquisition

20:41according to

20:41that press

20:42release

20:42that's right

20:43that's right

20:44so this

20:45is a process

20:46it has

20:46been slow

20:47but given

20:48West Bengal's

20:49issues with

20:50land acquisition

20:51I am

20:52almost certain

20:54that even

20:55if you wanted

20:56to fast track

20:57it it would

20:58still be a

20:58far slower

20:59process than

20:59it would be

21:00in other

21:00parts of

21:01the country

21:01and I'm

21:02very clear

21:02about this

21:03because West

21:03Bengal's

21:04land acquisition

21:05problems

21:05are

21:06humongous

21:07political

21:08risk

21:08for

21:08everybody

21:09okay

21:11so you

21:12don't think

21:12that there

21:12is a

21:13deliberate

21:13ghost law

21:14in this

21:14let me

21:14also bring

21:15in Garga

21:15Chatterjee

21:16into this

21:17conversation

21:18Garga

21:18welcome

21:18you know

21:20the home

21:21minister

21:21accused the

21:22chief minister

21:23and the

21:23Bengal government

21:24of deliberately

21:25delaying land

21:27being provided

21:29to the border

21:29security force

21:30for fencing

21:31of that area

21:32how do you

21:32read that

21:32sir

21:33let me give

21:36you certain

21:36facts

21:37okay

21:38am I audible

21:39correctly

21:40okay

21:40strength 5

21:41sir go on

21:41yeah

21:43let me give

21:44you certain

21:44facts which

21:45should inform

21:46the people of

21:47india about

21:48what is

21:48what

21:48number one

21:50this whole

21:51bogie of

21:52bangladeshi

21:53immigrants coming

21:54in through the

21:54poorest west

21:55bengal

21:55bangladesh border

21:57let me give

21:58you a figure

21:58from 1971

22:00to 81

22:01to 1991

22:02to 2001

22:03to 2011

22:04the last

22:05census

22:05the percentage

22:07of bengali

22:07speaking in

22:08people in

22:09india has

22:10actually gone

22:11down

22:11number one

22:12okay

22:12number two

22:14in assam

22:1523%

22:17of the

22:18land

22:19border

22:19with

22:20bangladesh

22:21remains

22:21unfenced

22:22i really

22:24request

22:24mr amit

22:25shah

22:26to tell

22:26us

22:27what are

22:27the factors

22:28which are

22:29stopping

22:29a bjp

22:31state

22:31government

22:31and the

22:32bjp

22:33home

22:33ministry

22:34government

22:34to do

22:3623%

22:38fencing

22:38in assam

22:39okay

22:39number

22:41three

22:41in

22:432015

22:44let alone

22:46guarding

22:48the bangladesh

22:48border

22:492000

22:5010,000

22:51acres of

22:52west bengal

22:53land of

22:53kujbihar

22:54was written

22:55off to

22:56the bangladesh

22:56government

22:57okay

22:58made part of

22:59bangladesh

22:59by this present

23:00government

23:00of india

23:01in 2024

23:03september

23:04140 acres

23:06of nodia

23:07district

23:08was given

23:09away

23:09to bangladesh

23:10after

23:11amit shah

23:12nodded it

23:13to bsf

23:14and their

23:14bangladesh

23:15border guard

23:15people

23:16and in the

23:17recent sir

23:18in west bengal

23:19the draft

23:20list has been

23:21published

23:22we have seen

23:24about 19-20

23:25lakh people

23:26who could not

23:27be traced

23:28okay

23:28or who have

23:29said they are

23:29elsewhere

23:30among them

23:32about

23:3370%

23:34plus

23:35are hindi

23:36speaking people

23:37urdu

23:38speaking people

23:39and marwaris

23:40who live

23:41in the

23:42urban

23:42and industrial

23:43areas of

23:44west bengal

23:44what bangladesh

23:46bogie are we

23:46talking about

23:47rp singh

23:48respond

23:49rp singh

23:50respond

23:51what bangladesh

23:52bogie or infiltrators

23:54bogie is the

23:55bjp talking about

23:56because statistics

23:58and numbers

23:59don't seem to

24:00back the claim

24:01the tmc

24:02counters

24:03you can't hide the truth

24:09as i was telling you

24:11and i showed you

24:12your pictures

24:12also

24:13of the bangladesh

24:15fleeing

24:15and vacating

24:17their

24:17mohollas

24:18after mohollas

24:19the

24:20houses

24:22after houses

24:23because

24:24they knew

24:25that they were

24:25scared of

24:26they knew

24:26they would be

24:27caught

24:27and when

24:28interviewed by

24:29various channels

24:30including your channel

24:30asked them

24:31who made

24:32your adhaar card

24:33they said

24:34it was the

24:34tmc worker

24:35who made

24:36your voter card

24:37it was a

24:37tmc worker

24:38whom do you

24:39vote for

24:40we vote for

24:40tmc

24:41i mean there

24:42are areas

24:42after areas

24:43which are

24:43empty today

24:44i mean

24:45please

24:45if you

24:46if you want

24:46i'll send you

24:47the clipping

24:48of your channel

24:48itself

24:49but fact is

24:50that mamta

24:51benerji is

24:52harping on

24:52these migrants

24:53and that's why

24:55she has been

24:56trying to

24:57protect them

24:58and when

24:58gentleman says

24:59that okay

25:00the people

25:00come from

25:01the border

25:01okay

25:02but who

25:03gives them

25:03the shelter

25:03here

25:04who ensures

25:05that they

25:05get their

25:05vote

25:06their

25:06voter

25:08eye card

25:08are made

25:09so there's

25:10a complete

25:11racket which

25:11is happening

25:12okay you

25:13accuse a racket

25:14being there

25:15on ground

25:15and garga

25:16before i bring

25:16in rishi

25:17into this

25:18conversation

25:18once again

25:19garga chatterji

25:20how do you

25:20see this

25:21you know

25:22mamta

25:22benerji

25:22comparing the

25:23bjp

25:24leadership

25:24to duryodhan

25:25and dushasana

25:26there are

25:27some analysts

25:28who argue

25:28this actually

25:29shows her

25:30desperation

25:30on the issue

25:31of ghuspetiyas

25:32they are not

25:33countering

25:33you know

25:34she is not

25:34countering the

25:35bjp on facts

25:36that infiltrators

25:38are changing

25:38the demographic

25:39profile of the

25:40region and

25:41that is why

25:41you know

25:42she is moving

25:42as the bjp

25:43says towards

25:44the duryodhan

25:45dushasana

25:46comparison sir

25:47how would you

25:47explain that

25:48see duryodhan

25:52and dushasana

25:53and the

25:55kaurabs

25:55and the

25:56pandabs

25:57were from

25:57the same

25:58kuru

25:59family

26:00okay

26:00we are

26:02all part

26:03of the

26:03family

26:03of india

26:05we are

26:06all indians

26:07so when

26:08certain

26:09political

26:11forces in

26:12india

26:12the bjp

26:13in this

26:13case

26:14attacks

26:16in its

26:16states

26:17bengalese

26:18of india

26:19citizens

26:20of bengal

26:21in

26:22malda

26:23murshidabad

26:23in

26:25odisha

26:26in rajasthan

26:27in odisha

26:29in rajasthan

26:31sir the moment

26:31he completes

26:32i'll get you

26:33to respond

26:34okay

26:34rp

26:35is gaga

26:35chadji

26:36only

26:36okay

26:38this

26:39can't happen

26:39gaga

26:40gaga chadji

26:40complete your

26:41point

26:41sir i'm coming

26:42to you

26:43gaga please

26:44complete your

26:44point sir

26:45one has to

26:46be slapped

26:47by the

26:48passport act

26:49the citizenship

26:50act

26:50okay and

26:51that's the

26:52constitution of

26:53india

26:53while we have

26:55bjp

26:55bajarangdal

26:56vigilantes

26:57attacking

26:58bengalese

26:58in bjp's

26:59ruled states

26:59all over india

27:00is this some

27:01kind of

27:02ethnic cleansing

27:02of bengalese

27:03going on in

27:04india

27:04in the name

27:05of a

27:05you are saying

27:06it's happening

27:06to bengalese

27:07you are saying

27:08it's happening

27:08to bengalese

27:09rp singh

27:10respond

27:10rp singh

27:11respond

27:11i'll give you

27:13a challenge

27:14to gentleman

27:15let him give

27:16an instance

27:16where such

27:17thing has

27:17happened

27:18he is

27:18doing

27:19well

27:19he wants

27:21to bring

27:21hatred

27:21he wants

27:22to build

27:22hatred

27:23in the

27:23society

27:23which is

27:24all false

27:25and fabricated

27:26and as

27:26for duryodhan

27:28and dushashan

27:28mr jyoti

27:29priya malik

27:30is a duryodhan

27:31mr anuprat

27:32mandal is a

27:33dushashan

27:33mr jivan kris

27:34shah is a

27:35dushashan

27:35all these people

27:36who are involved

27:37in corruption

27:38are dushashan

27:39and duryodhan

27:39whether it's

27:40manik bhatachare

27:41chandalkhan

27:41senna

27:41preish pal

27:42kuntal ghosh

27:43kunal ghosh

27:44i mean

27:45all these

27:45are people

27:46who are

27:47duryodhan

27:47dushashan

27:48valchmangar

27:49because

27:50garga

27:50wants to

27:51quickly respond

27:52before i bring

27:53in shikha

27:53mukarji

27:54and amit

27:54and rishin

27:55to this

27:56conversation

27:56once again

27:57on what

27:57amit shah

27:58said

27:58but quickly

27:59garga

27:59yes please

27:59i have

28:02personally

28:03met

28:03buddhudar

28:04barik

28:04and his

28:0520 compatriots

28:06from

28:06poshtim

28:07madhinipur

28:09district

28:09who were

28:10who went

28:11to gujarat

28:12they were

28:12picked up

28:13by gujarat

28:13police

28:14their gujarat

28:16police

28:16boot marks

28:17are on

28:17their body

28:18they were

28:19branded as

28:19bangladeshis

28:20babai shardar

28:21who did

28:22a rss course

28:23of level 2

28:24from

28:24bishnipur

28:25assembly

28:26constituency

28:26of south

28:2724

28:28pargona

28:28he was

28:29picked up

28:29in moharashtro

28:30okay

28:30shujoy dash

28:31of murshidabad

28:32in urissa

28:33was beaten

28:34black and blue

28:35was almost

28:35killed with a

28:36stone

28:36i have visited

28:37all of these

28:38people

28:38these are

28:39all over

28:40the media

28:40all of these

28:41things exist

28:42the bjp

28:43is in the line

28:44of fire

28:44for not

28:45taking hard

28:46action against

28:46vigilante

28:47groups

28:48that's the

28:49in case there

28:50are illegal

28:50bangladeshis

28:51legal action

28:53by the police

28:53and not by

28:54vigilante

28:55groups

28:55that's the

28:56criticism

28:56coming your

28:57way sir

28:58rp singh

28:58wait 30 seconds

28:59he just now

29:00mentioned

29:00he just now

29:01mentioned

29:01the police

29:02police

29:03are starting

29:03vigilante

29:03groups

29:04when police

29:05is taking

29:05action

29:06they are

29:06saying

29:06vigilante

29:06groups

29:07they are

29:07trying to

29:08brand it

29:08as a

29:08bhangla

29:09as a

29:09bhangla

29:10but fact

29:11is

29:11let's talk

29:12about

29:12hargobindas

29:13and chandindas

29:13why were

29:14they killed

29:14in murshidabad

29:15what

29:16what made

29:17them

29:17why were

29:18they killed

29:18in murshidabad

29:19what was

29:19the instance

29:20do you remember

29:20that

29:21so it

29:22is

29:22as per

29:23their suitability

29:23poor people

29:25from backward

29:26classes

29:26were killed

29:27because they

29:28are hindus

29:28I want to

29:30quickly bring in

29:31Shikha Mukherjee

29:32Amit Shah

29:34Shikha Mukherjee

29:35accused

29:35Mamata Banerjee

29:36of creating

29:38this atmosphere

29:39of fear

29:40which was

29:40worse than

29:41in the times

29:41of a

29:42communist

29:42regime

29:43now he

29:43went on

29:44record to

29:44say more

29:44than 300

29:45BJP workers

29:46have been

29:46killed

29:46more than

29:473000 BJP

29:48workers

29:48have still

29:49not been

29:49able to

29:50return home

29:50they are

29:51being pressured

29:52that they will

29:52only be allowed

29:53to return home

29:53if they carry

29:54a TMC flag

29:55how bad

29:56is this

29:56situation on

29:57ground in

29:57your appreciation

29:58madam

29:58Guru

30:00before I

30:02get to the

30:03point that

30:03you just

30:04asked me

30:04I will

30:05raise two

30:06or three

30:06questions

30:07one is

30:08that there

30:09is a

30:09person called

30:10Shonali

30:10Ghatu

30:11who was

30:12deported

30:13on suspicion

30:14that she was

30:15a Bangladeshi

30:15the courts

30:17in Bangladesh

30:18and the

30:18Supreme Court

30:19of India

30:19have both

30:20said that

30:20she had to

30:21come and

30:22she was

30:22brought back

30:23the fact

30:24the fact

30:24is that

30:25this whole

30:27business of

30:28identifying

30:30people as

30:31Bangladeshi

30:32has now

30:32reached

30:33dangerous

30:34proportions

30:35with the

30:36death of

30:36Angel Chakma

30:38Chakma

30:39why because

30:39he was in

30:40Uttarakhand

30:41why was he

30:43attacked

30:43why was he

30:44killed

30:44Angel Chakma

30:45is a completely

30:46different issue

30:46ma'am and the

30:47Uttarakhand

30:47police have a

30:48different story

30:48but that

30:49you know I

30:50want to stay on the

30:50issue of Bengal

30:51for the moment

30:51Angel Chakma is a

30:53different story

30:53we are looking at

30:54Bengal but we are

30:55also looking at

30:56the identity

30:57politics that

30:58is underway

30:59and that is

31:00the dangerous

31:01part of it

31:02for national

31:04for the nation

31:05oh absolutely

31:06anybody targeting

31:07anybody you know

31:09the strong arm of

31:09the law has to

31:10come down very

31:11heavily but

31:11Angel Chakma

31:12has in my

31:13view has nothing

31:14to do with

31:14what's happening

31:15in Bengal or

31:16the issue of

31:17the ghuz

31:17paitia but

31:18Rishi Bagri

31:19TMC claims

31:19BJP leaders

31:20visit the state

31:21as tourists

31:22they have

31:22they lack

31:23grassroot support

31:24that is why

31:25they are blaming

31:26politics of fear

31:27and the TMC

31:28how do you read

31:28Amit Shah's

31:29statement on

31:303000 BJP

31:31workers being

31:31unable to

31:32return home

31:32sir

31:32I don't think

31:35so there is a

31:35lack of

31:36grassroot support

31:37because they

31:37already are

31:38having a 40%

31:39vote share

31:40and secondly

31:41I mean these

31:41are the same

31:42activists who

31:43stayed completely

31:44conspicuously

31:45silent on

31:46West Bengal

31:47police firing

31:48and which killed

31:49multiple Bengali

31:50students in

31:51Islampur when

31:52the Mamata

31:52government was

31:53trying to

31:53impose Urdu

31:54language instead

31:56of a Bengali

31:57language

31:57this was the

31:58same activist

31:58who stayed

32:00silent and

32:00gulped down

32:01the group

32:01and secondly

32:02Angel Chakma

32:03was not killed

32:04because of some

32:05hate crime

32:05he was killed

32:06because of

32:07some thing

32:07and his killer

32:08was some Nepali

32:09guy and some

32:09guy from

32:10what he called

32:12Manipur

32:12I mean they are

32:13basically on the

32:14run

32:14so the government

32:16and the police

32:17have clarified

32:18this thing

32:18so some arrests

32:20have taken place

32:20some more arrests

32:21need to take place

32:22but you are

32:23absolutely right

32:23any crime

32:25you know is

32:26very clearly

32:26unacceptable

32:27but you know

32:29does this mean

32:30that identification

32:31of illegal

32:32Bangladeshis

32:33should not happen

32:34due process

32:35must be followed

32:36but illegals

32:37must be dealt

32:38with

32:39but this is an

32:39issue of course

32:40we will continue

32:40to debate

32:41in the days

32:42and weeks ahead

32:43I want to thank

32:44all my guests

32:45so after Pakistan

32:46being rattled

32:47by Dhurandhar

32:48China is seeing

32:49red over an

32:50upcoming film

32:50on the Galwan

32:52clash

32:53Salman Khan

32:54star of

32:54battle of Galwan

32:55based on the

32:56deadly

32:56June 2020

32:58India China

32:59clash in Ladakh

33:01has triggered

33:01a sharp reaction

33:03on the other side

33:03of the line

33:04of actual control

33:05so China

33:06state run media

33:07they have gone

33:08after this film

33:09they have questioned

33:10the portrayal

33:11of events

33:12they have accused

33:13India

33:13of using cinema

33:15to push nationalism

33:16New Delhi however

33:18made one thing

33:19very clear

33:19of course

33:20through sources

33:20that the government

33:22has no role

33:22to play

33:23in films

33:24and that creative

33:26freedom

33:26stands in India

33:27so why is

33:29Beijing so rattled

33:30five years

33:31after Galwan

33:33let's find out

33:34in this report

33:35Hai Jan is back

33:36on the big screen

33:37this time

33:38with the battle

33:38of Galwan

33:39a film based

33:40on the June 2020

33:41clash between

33:42Indian and

33:42Chinese troops

33:43in the Galwan

33:43valley of eastern

33:44Ladakh

33:45directed by

33:45Apoor Valakia

33:46the film star

33:47Salman Khan

33:48is Colonel

33:48Santosh Babu

33:49the commanding

33:50officer of the

33:5116th Bihar regiment

33:52who laid down

33:53his life

33:53defending India's

33:54territorial integrity

33:55Chitrangda Singh

33:56plays the female

33:57lead

33:57the trailer

33:58has generated

33:59massive buzz

33:59across India

34:00stirring emotions

34:01pride

34:02and remembering

34:03but across the border

34:04Beijing appears

34:05rattled

34:06China's state run

34:07newspaper

34:07Global Times

34:08has taken a sharp

34:09aim at the film

34:10alleging that

34:12its portrayal

34:13of the June

34:132020 clash

34:14does not

34:15align with facts

34:16the article

34:18dismisses the film

34:19as over the top

34:19and even undermines

34:21Colonel Babu's

34:22sacrifice by calling

34:23his role

34:24so called pivotal

34:25The report also

34:27accuses India

34:28of using cinema

34:28to stir

34:29nationalistic

34:30sentiment

34:30calling it

34:32reflective of

34:32a deeply rooted

34:33cultural and

34:34political tradition

34:35But the propaganda

34:39doesn't stop there

34:40Global Times

34:41has falsely

34:42placed responsibility

34:43for the June

34:4415, 2020

34:45clash

34:45squarely on India

34:47alleging that

34:48Indian forces

34:49violated the line

34:50of actual control

34:51and deliberately

34:52provoked the

34:53situation in the

34:54Galwan Valley

34:54But Bharat's story

34:56is different

34:57and is backed

34:57by proof

34:58When China

35:02released the footage

35:03of the face-off

35:04it showed a young

35:05Indian army officer

35:06leading from the front

35:07standing firm

35:09against aggression

35:10That officer

35:11was Captain

35:12Soiba

35:13from Manipur

35:13Senapati district

35:14On June 15, 2020

35:18he led soldiers

35:20of the 16 Bihar

35:21regiment

35:21during the

35:22confrontation

35:22in the Galwan Valley

35:23and was later

35:25honored by the

35:25Manipur chief minister

35:26for his bravery

35:27Amid the controversy

35:32government sources

35:32have clarified

35:33that the Indian

35:34government has

35:35no role

35:35in the making

35:36of the film

35:36and that filmmakers

35:38enjoy creative freedom

35:39Bharat knows

35:40its truth

35:41Beijing knows

35:42it too

35:43So why the outrage?

35:44Five years later

35:45China still avoids

35:47transparency

35:47It continues

35:48to reshape

35:49narratives

35:49and relies

35:50on propaganda

35:51and this raises

35:52some important

35:53questions

35:54If China's version

35:55of events

35:56is so solid

35:56then why fear

35:57a film?

35:59If history is truly

36:01on Beijing's side

36:01why attempt

36:02to silence

36:03another perspective?

36:05In a world

36:05where borders

36:06are contested

36:07not just on the

36:07ground

36:08but in the mines

36:09is cinema

36:10really the threat

36:11or is it

36:12the truth?

36:13We're a report

36:13India Today

36:14Why Fear

36:17a Film

36:18Joining me

36:19on India

36:19first is

36:20Aynar Tanjan

36:21He's a senior

36:22fellow at the

36:22Centre for

36:23International

36:23Governance

36:24Innovation

36:25of course

36:25and chairman

36:25of the

36:26Asia

36:27Narrative

36:27He joins

36:28us from

36:28Beijing

36:28Left and

36:29General

36:29SL Narasimhan

36:30is former

36:31member

36:31of the

36:32National

36:32Security

36:32Advisory

36:33Board

36:33former

36:34defence

36:34attaché

36:35at the

36:35Indian

36:36Mission

36:36in China

36:37Gentlemen

36:37welcome

36:38Mr. Tanjan

36:39how do you

36:40interpret

36:41Global Times

36:41accusation

36:42that the

36:42film

36:43Battle of

36:43Galwan

36:44distorts

36:45historical

36:45facts

36:46about the

36:462020

36:47clash

36:47why do

36:48you think

36:48sir

36:49China

36:50of the

36:51newspaper

36:52is so

36:53impacted

36:54by an

36:55Indian

36:55film

36:55well I

36:58don't think

36:59it's so

36:59impacted

36:59I mean

37:00what they

37:00do is

37:01they believe

37:02they have

37:03their own

37:03narrative

37:04India has

37:05theirs

37:06and what

37:06you see

37:07here is

37:07a movie

37:08it's

37:08not

37:09reality

37:10it's

37:11in part

37:11fiction

37:12of course

37:12but it's

37:14just

37:14a movie

37:14so I

37:15think

37:15they're

37:15being

37:15a little

37:16bit

37:16sensitive

37:16but

37:17at a

37:17time

37:18when we

37:18have

37:18so

37:19much

37:19conflict

37:19going

37:20on

37:20in

37:20the

37:20world

37:21I

37:22think

37:22China

37:22would

37:23like

37:23to

37:23see

37:23less

37:24conflict

37:24and

37:25therefore

37:25less

37:26appeals

37:27to

37:27nationalism

37:28so

37:28I

37:29think

37:29they're

37:29concerned

37:29remember

37:30the

37:31background

37:31of this

37:32was

37:32that

37:32things

37:33were

37:33deescalating

37:34and

37:35from

37:35the

37:36Chinese

37:36perspective

37:36there

37:37was

37:37an

37:37attempt

37:38to

37:38kick

37:38over

37:38a

37:39tent

37:39that

37:39the

37:39Chinese

37:40said

37:40that

37:41they

37:41were

37:41about

37:41to

37:42take

37:42down

37:42this

37:43resulted

37:44in

37:44a

37:44melee

37:44many

37:45of

37:45the

37:45soldiers

37:46who

37:46died

37:47on

37:47the

37:47Indian

37:47side

37:48died

37:49of

37:50hypothermia

37:50because

37:51they got

37:51pushed

37:51into a

37:52ravine

37:52that

37:52at the

37:53bottom

37:53was

37:53water

37:54and

37:55they

37:55literally

37:56died

37:56from

37:57hypothermia

37:57and

37:58things

37:58like

37:58this

37:58so

37:58it

37:59was

37:59a

37:59very

37:59tragic

38:00incident

38:01it would

38:02have been

38:02better off

38:03if it

38:03had not

38:04happened

38:04but when

38:05you put

38:05soldiers

38:06in close

38:08proximity

38:08like this

38:09you're bound

38:11to have

38:12consequences

38:13like

38:13similar

38:14to this

38:14true

38:17General

38:17Simhan

38:18your

38:18reading

38:19of the

38:19unease

38:20and the

38:21Global Times

38:22article

38:22on this

38:23film

38:23Galwan

38:24you know

38:24soldiers

38:25being put

38:26in close

38:27proximity

38:27would indicate

38:28had the

38:29Chinese

38:29not come

38:29there

38:30India

38:30wouldn't

38:31have had

38:31to put

38:31troops

38:32to counter

38:33their

38:33presence

38:34in that

38:34area

38:34yeah

38:37thank you

38:38for getting

38:39me on

38:39the show

38:39and

38:40it's a

38:41topic

38:42which has

38:42just come

38:43up about

38:43I mean

38:44after three

38:44days before

38:45this teaser

38:46was released

38:46and now

38:47this is

38:48reactions

38:48have started

38:49coming

38:49but

38:50it has

38:51come from

38:52Global Times

38:52and probably

38:53in

38:53a couple

38:54of places

38:55but the

38:56government

38:57of China

38:57has not

38:58actually made

38:58any kind

38:59of remark

38:59on this

38:59as yet

39:00there is

39:00one

39:00the second

39:01thing is

39:02it is only

39:03a teaser

39:04that has

39:04been put

39:04out

39:04the whole

39:05movie

39:05has not

39:05come out

39:06as yet

39:06I don't

39:06know why

39:07people have

39:07to react

39:08to a teaser

39:08which has

39:09just been

39:09put out

39:09at this

39:10point

39:10in time

39:10but they

39:11need to

39:12wait

39:12till the

39:12entire

39:13movie

39:13comes

39:13out

39:14and

39:14thereafter

39:14that can

39:14be

39:15analysed

39:15subsequently

39:16but

39:17this can

39:18be understood

39:19basically

39:20because

39:21as Mr.

39:22Aynar

39:22mentioned

39:23since last

39:24year

39:24there has

39:25been some

39:25kind of

39:25stability

39:26in the

39:26relationship

39:27between

39:27India

39:27and China

39:28and this

39:29building up

39:29of nationalism

39:30may create

39:31certain issues

39:32in that

39:32particular

39:33aspect

39:33of what

39:34probably

39:34the

39:34Chinese

39:34side

39:35may be

39:35feeling

39:35but let

39:37me

39:37put this

39:38in the

39:38right

39:38perspective

39:39it took

39:41five years

39:41for us

39:42to do

39:42the

39:42disengagement

39:43part

39:43in full

39:44and still

39:45two small

39:46steps of

39:46de-escalation

39:48and de-induction

39:49are left

39:49that is to

39:50be done

39:51further

39:51and not

39:53withstanding

39:53all that

39:53the political

39:54relationship

39:55also has

39:55stabilised a

39:56little bit

39:56so hopefully

39:58things will

39:58continue in

39:59this manner

39:59I think

40:00there is a

40:00little over

40:01reaction

40:01from the

40:02Chinese

40:02side

40:02is what

40:02I think

40:03just a

40:04teaser

40:04that has

40:04been put

40:05out

40:05and I

40:06went through

40:06the teaser

40:07a couple

40:07of times

40:08to see

40:09whether

40:09anything

40:09very

40:09adverse

40:10is there

40:10at the

40:11moment

40:11I don't

40:11see

40:12anything

40:12adverse

40:12happening

40:13there

40:13it only

40:13says

40:13depending

40:14of

40:14India's

40:14territory

40:15is what

40:15is being

40:15said

40:16so we'll

40:17have to

40:17wait for

40:17the entire

40:17movie to

40:18come out

40:18and then

40:19see what

40:19happens

40:19there

40:20oh

40:21absolutely

40:21and both

40:23of you

40:23are absolutely

40:23right

40:24because

40:24you know

40:25tensions

40:25are coming

40:26down

40:26on either

40:27side

40:27even though

40:28that may

40:29well just

40:30be tactical

40:30Aynar

40:31tangent

40:32because

40:32disengagement

40:33may have

40:34taken place

40:34de-induction

40:35hasn't taken

40:36place

40:36de-escalation

40:38of

40:38tensions

40:39really

40:39hasn't

40:39taken

40:40place

40:40just

40:40disengagement

40:41as yet

40:41but the

40:42global

40:42times

40:43is trying

40:44to dismiss

40:44colonel

40:45Santosh

40:45Babu's

40:46role

40:46as so

40:47called

40:48pivotal

40:48to this

40:50entire

40:50controversy

40:51why would

40:52China be

40:53so interested

40:53in what

40:54an Indian

40:55movie depicts

40:55about an

40:56Indian

40:56commanding

40:57officer

40:57is there

40:58an apprehension

40:59that whatever

41:00China may

41:00have been

41:01trying to

41:01build

41:02may be

41:02called out

41:03because in

41:03India

41:04nationalism

41:05is never

41:06seen as

41:06a bad

41:07thing

41:07yeah it's

41:10unfortunate

41:11but you know

41:12the Chinese

41:12government

41:13and the

41:14newspapers

41:14especially

41:15now are

41:16extremely

41:16sensitive

41:17they're

41:17dealing

41:18with this

41:18situation

41:19Japan

41:21where they've

41:22indicated

41:22Japan has

41:23indicated

41:23first that

41:25they think

41:25that there's

41:26some reason

41:27that they can

41:27interfere in

41:28Taiwan

41:29and second

41:29that they

41:30think that

41:32nuclear weapons

41:33is the next

41:34solution

41:35obviously

41:36this is

41:37heightened

41:37tensions

41:38at this

41:39moment in

41:40time

41:40China is

41:41mounting

41:42a live

41:43fire

41:44exercise

41:44that

41:45basically

41:46rehearses

41:47cutting off

41:48access

41:49to

41:50so it's

41:52very very

41:52difficult

41:53to sort

41:54all of this

41:55out

41:56except from

41:57the emotional

41:57point of view

41:58so

41:58at this

41:59point I

42:00would agree

42:00with my

42:00colleague

42:01it's time

42:01to put

42:02this aside

42:03this is a

42:03Bollywood movie

42:04this is an

42:05actor who

42:05had two

42:07movies that

42:07he wasn't

42:07satisfied with

42:08and he's

42:09hoping this

42:09will be a

42:10blockbuster

42:10obviously

42:11picking on

42:12a theme

42:12that you

42:14know would

42:14stir

42:15nationalism

42:15is very

42:16much part

42:17of that

42:17but we

42:18should not

42:18be exchanging

42:19fact for

42:20fiction

42:20or fiction

42:22for fact

42:22and as

42:23he suggested

42:24we should be

42:25waiting to

42:26see what

42:26is there

42:27and not

42:28take it

42:28with too

42:29much

42:29seriousness

42:30true

42:32you know

42:33because we

42:33still to

42:34learn of

42:34the reality

42:35on the

42:36Chinese side

42:37while India

42:38being a

42:38democracy

42:38Mr. Tanjin

42:39was you know

42:40put out the

42:41fatalities and

42:42casualties on the

42:43Indian side

42:44the Chinese side

42:45for some reason

42:46hasn't didn't do

42:48so for quite some

42:49time and only

42:49then gave out

42:50some details

42:51and not all

42:52but General

42:53from a military

42:54perspective

42:55what is your

42:57reading of

42:58one China

42:58being upset

42:59about highlighting

43:00individual bravery

43:01of an Indian

43:02official or

43:03highlighting the

43:04situation on

43:05ground

43:05and of course

43:06the Chinese

43:07silence on the

43:08casualties on

43:09the Chinese

43:09side

43:10two things

43:13one is let

43:14me take the

43:14Chinese casualties

43:15figures first

43:16I mean we

43:18can't be for

43:18sure say how

43:19many casualties

43:20Chinese suffered

43:21they have of

43:22course announced

43:23that they

43:24suffered four

43:24that is fine

43:25but that is

43:26generally the

43:26nature of the

43:28government in

43:29China even if

43:31you take your

43:31mind back 1962

43:32casualties are

43:33also not clear

43:34as of now

43:34so it is a

43:35long drawn kind

43:37of a thing that

43:37the Chinese have

43:38that method that

43:39is their own

43:39way of doing

43:40things that is

43:41one second

43:42thing about the

43:42individual bravery

43:43I mean initially

43:45they didn't accept

43:46the casualties

43:46thereafter there

43:47is a sense of

43:48nationalism that

43:49we could see in

43:49the Chinese social

43:50media they also

43:52actually brought

43:53into prominence

43:54senior colonel

43:55chief of

43:56who was given

43:57the prime of

43:58place in certain

43:58events etc so I

44:00think nations do

44:01play up individual

44:02bravery that

44:04creates a sense of

44:05nationalism sense of

44:06belonging sense of

44:07patriotism that I

44:09think all countries

44:09do I'm sure

44:10Chinese also did

44:11that I that is

44:12why I'm surprised

44:13as to why they're

44:14actually not

44:15comfortable with

44:16Colonel Santosh's

44:17bravery if

44:18regimental commander

44:19chief Papa can

44:21be can be brought

44:22into prominence I

44:23am sure Colonel

44:24Santosh Babu also

44:25has his role to

44:26play in that

44:27event so I think

44:29we need to see

44:29those more sense

44:30of balance I

44:31think there's a

44:31sense of little

44:32imbalance at this

44:33moment I think

44:34when the movie

44:34comes out and

44:35everybody sees it

44:36I think things

44:36will settle down

44:37and government of

44:38India has played

44:39it very very

44:40maturely to say

44:41that the government

44:43hand is not there

44:44in making this

44:44film and of

44:46course we in

44:47India allow the

44:48movie makers to

44:49have more sense

44:50of freedom to

44:51make their own

44:51movies the way

44:52they wanted and

44:53I'm sure the

44:54movie makers also

44:55would have done

44:55a lot of

44:56research I mean

44:56there are if you

44:58go to the social

44:58media there are

44:59reports of how

45:00the research has

45:01been done etc so

45:02I think we need

45:03to wait and watch

45:03I think this is a

45:04little overreaction

45:05which has taken

45:05place let us put

45:07it aside and

45:07then let us see

45:08how the relationship

45:09remains stable till

45:11the future can be

45:13seen.

45:14Oh absolutely

45:15you know the

45:16relationship should

45:16stay stable both

45:18both my respected

45:19guests have argued

45:20that Aynar Tanjun in

45:22this Global Times

45:23article China actually

45:24pins the responsibility

45:25for the clash on

45:26India they claim

45:27Indian troops cross

45:29the LSE and provoke

45:30the confrontation

45:30you know your facts

45:33your movie or the

45:34way you may want to

45:35put it out but the

45:36facts on ground

45:37remain Tibet

45:39occupied by China

45:41your army came in

45:43your troops came

45:44in your additional

45:45forces came in and

45:47India mounted a

45:48response mobilizing

45:50forces only in

45:51response to Chinese

45:52mobilization sir the

45:54way we look at it

45:55yeah obviously countries

45:58look at it differently

45:59I'm not Chinese I'm an

46:00American I've lived

46:02here about a third

46:02of my life so I mean

46:05what China sees this

46:06is going back to the

46:0762 war and they

46:11have their narrative

46:12obviously India has

46:14theirs I don't expect

46:15them to adopt each

46:16others but the point

46:17is you can't change

46:18the past right now

46:20India has bigger

46:22problems and has a

46:23U.S.

46:23problem you know

46:24tariffs interference

46:25and elections you

46:27know false claims

46:28about making peace

46:29and all this type of

46:30thing you know it

46:33just China would love

46:34to see things remain

46:36on track they don't

46:38want to have you

46:39know a bunch of

46:40embarrassments that

46:41get in the way of

46:42having better

46:43relations India is

46:44never going to be

46:44like China China is

46:45never going to be

46:46like India but both

46:47want security they

46:49want development they

46:50want to be respected

46:51for the cultures and

46:53countries that they

46:53are and obviously

46:55there has to be a

46:56mechanism for them to

46:58talk instead of you

46:59know throwing tanks

47:00and big brick bats at

47:02each other so hopefully

47:03that is the future

47:04and you can put

47:06aside all this kind

47:08of stuff as to who

47:09is a hero and who

47:10was not

47:11sure

47:13Jalinar Siman you

47:15know China or some

47:16analysts believe that

47:17India has huge

47:18problems many would

47:19argue China's

47:20problems are even

47:21bigger given the

47:22tensions with Japan

47:24the situation with

47:25Taiwan right now

47:26Taiwan you know

47:28mounting their own

47:29exercising and air

47:31operations with the

47:33violation of their

47:33air defense

47:34identification zones

47:35China's issues with

47:36the United States

47:38in all of this what

47:40I want to understand

47:41from you is why do

47:42India's neighbors get

47:43rattled by by Hindi

47:45films Pakistan got

47:47very rattled with

47:48Dhurandar China is

47:49upset with this or

47:50the Chinese state

47:52media is upset with

47:53this film on Galvan

47:54is their narrative so

47:58carefully constructed

47:59collapsing I wouldn't

48:03share that I mean

48:03that's the taking again

48:04things a little too

48:05far don't forget there

48:07is a wolf warrior movie

48:08in China which talked

48:09about US mercenaries

48:11acting against China and

48:12China reacting to it

48:13there is also another

48:15movie on the Chinese

48:15Air Force the way they

48:17were looking at the

48:18counterterrorism aspects

48:19so I think every

48:20country makes such

48:21movies I am sure

48:22Americans also make it

48:23every country makes it

48:24that is one issue

48:25second issue is I

48:27think there is a

48:28sense of I would say

48:29there are too many

48:31too many things

48:32happening around China

48:33you talked about

48:34Japan issues with

48:35Japan issues with

48:36Taiwan they already

48:37started a blockade

48:38a couple of days ago

48:39and that is still going

48:40on in some form around

48:41Taiwan and not only

48:43that there are other

48:43issues with the US

48:44the Russia Ukraine

48:46campaign not showing

48:47any kind of hit up

48:48you find the Middle

48:49East again up in the

48:50arms so you find that

48:52you know this entire

48:53thing is up in the

48:54air and with a lot of

48:55flux in the international

48:56system so that is

48:57later I am sure they

48:59don't want to add one

48:59more to it and that is

49:00one issue that could

49:01actually rattle them

49:02for a little bit to say

49:03that you know why

49:04should we add one more

49:05to it so the issue is

49:07that we are now taking

49:09and discussing two

49:10things one what was

49:11Global Times mentioned

49:13we didn't I mean

49:15People Daily has not

49:16mentioned anything on

49:17this China Daily has

49:18not mentioned anything

49:19on this the other

49:20newspapers which are

49:21actually the government's

49:23mouthpieces they are

49:24not actually said

49:25anything much on this

49:26I think Global Times

49:27is known to known to

49:29react in this manner

49:30in some form or the

49:31other so I think we

49:32need to take all this

49:34into account when we

49:35when we analyze this

49:36and so I won't

49:37attribute any much

49:38motives into this I

49:40think it is a reaction

49:41by one newspaper

49:42the Global Times

49:43which has been picked

49:43up and then played

49:44up I think we'll have

49:45to wait for more

49:46mature more balanced

49:48kind of reaction from

49:50the Chinese government

49:51or Chinese mouthpieces

49:52then you can take it

49:53up for discussions

49:54at the moment I would

49:55say that I think we

49:56should take it for what

49:57it is that it is a

49:59report by Global Times

50:00and that is what is

50:01being discussed at this

50:02point in time

50:03very interesting and

50:04you know Mr. Aynar Tanjan

50:06and General Arsaman many

50:07thanks for this discussion

50:08here on India today

50:10let's see how this

50:11this develops and more

50:12than a reaction to a

50:13movie let's see how the

50:15situation on the line of

50:17actual control pans out

50:18in the coming months

50:20hopefully there will be

50:22de-escalation and

50:23ultimately de-induction

50:25for the relationship to

50:26return on an even keel

50:28because for the

50:28relationship to grow

50:29there needs to be peace

50:31and tranquility at the

50:32borders that is all I

50:34have for you on this

50:35India first special

50:36broadcast

50:36many thanks to watch

50:37you

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