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00:00911, what's your emergency?
00:02Hello?
00:03I need help.
00:05I'm trapped here.
00:07Hello?
00:08It's dark.
00:09Help.
00:10Ma'am?
00:11Please.
00:12Ma'am, are you still there?
00:18Hey, how you doing?
00:19They just put it right there.
00:22You, uh, you don't look so happy to see me.
00:25I, no, I just, I want to just get this case behind me.
00:28If today's not a good day.
00:29No, it's great.
00:30Not a problem.
00:31Not a problem.
00:32Great.
00:33Let's start at the beginning then.
00:34When did you meet Abigail Turney?
00:35Uh, that was a few years ago when she showed up at my door pretending to be pregnant with
00:40my grandchild.
00:41Excuse me?
00:42Abigail and my son Henry met in college.
00:44They got engaged, you know, fast.
00:47Very fast.
00:49Her way of breaking the news to me was to go bigger.
00:52But, um, despite that introduction, I was charmed by her.
00:57She, she had, uh, walked a tough road, but she had grit.
01:02She was resourceful and driven, and I, I admire that.
01:05So she and Henry are no longer together?
01:07Yeah, she broke off the engagement, but, uh, it was amicable.
01:10You arranged for Abigail to have a ride-along with the LAPD?
01:12Yes.
01:13Yeah, she was considering police work.
01:15I take it that didn't work out.
01:16Leave her alone!
01:17Hey!
01:18Ah!
01:19Yes!
01:20It did not.
01:21And then six months ago, she was reported missing.
01:23What exactly happened to Abigail?
01:24Look, if you're gonna get to the bottom of what happened to that poor girl, you're gonna
01:30have to have an open mind.
01:33A very open mind.
01:35Hey!
01:36Ah!
01:37Police!
01:38I wonder when that happened.
01:39Oh, my God.
01:40Hello?
01:41Can you hear me?
01:42When did you get involved in the case?
01:43Uh, not immediately.
01:44Most missing persons cases aren't really cases.
01:45They're a roommate who got too drunk at a bar and slept it off in his truck, or a college
01:47student whose cell phone ran out of battery.
01:48You know, most of the time they'd show up unharmed and confused about all the fuss.
01:51But this wasn't like that, was it?
01:52No, after a few days of follow-up calls, we sent officers by Ms. Tierney's apartment
02:09for a wellness check.
02:11Thanks again for doing this.
02:13Always a pleasure to see my favorite couple.
02:14Ah, let's keep this professional.
02:17Trouble in paradise?
02:19Trouble in paradise?
02:23Sorry, I'm moving on.
02:24What did you find at Abigail's apartment?
02:26Very little.
02:27You mean no signs of a struggle?
02:28Well, there was no sign of her or her film equipment, but we did find her laptop.
02:32Hold on.
02:32Film equipment?
02:33Abigail was making a movie?
02:34Yes.
02:40We should be safe here.
02:42Why are they doing this?
02:44Go.
02:45I'll try to buy you some time.
02:49No!
02:50No!
02:51No!
02:52No!
02:58Please.
03:00I promise I'll pay.
03:03I'll pay the fine.
03:07I only saw an early cut.
03:10Could have used a bit more gore, if you ask me.
03:12I didn't.
03:13I asked why you thought Abigail's case was so compelling.
03:16Oh, right.
03:17Uh, because her Hollywood dream had become a Hollywood nightmare.
03:27Would you like me to take that again?
03:28I really wouldn't.
03:29When you searched Abigail's laptop, did you find anything on it?
03:32Yeah, it was filled with all of these unanswered messages.
03:35Nasty ones.
03:36The more we investigated, it became clear that Abigail had a lot of people angry with her.
03:41Like who?
03:41Okay, thank you.
03:43Thanks, Steve.
03:44Spielberg.
03:45He's an old friend.
03:47I bet.
03:48How did you get involved with Abigail Tierney?
03:50Oh, well, you know, we're always looking to discover and nurture the next generation of unheard voices.
03:58Abigail sent in a very compelling pitch video.
04:00Terror isn't something that happens to you.
04:07I mean, it's not every day you find a writer, director, and star with that much, um, poise.
04:15L.P.D. was one of those visionary, artist-driven pictures that, uh, we pride ourselves on making.
04:20And they're the cheapest, too, right?
04:22Well, hey, you know, the lower the budget, the higher the profit, if it's a hit.
04:26But the budget became an issue.
04:28Yeah, um, Abigail pitched us a straightforward horror flick, but, uh, she kept changing directions.
04:35Please!
04:41The reshoot started piling up.
04:44And, uh, we had to pull the plug on the project.
04:47What about nurturing a new generation of talent?
04:49Wait, look, there's, there's nurturing and there's indulging.
04:52I'm a businessman.
04:53There's no hard feelings.
04:54Really? Because I have an email from you with the subject line,
04:57Where the hell is my money, you lying sack?
04:59Uh, okay, yeah, fine.
05:01A few hard feelings, but they were nothing compared to some of those new producers she found.
05:06Those guys weren't playing around.
05:08Well, without the production company, Abigail had to turn to crowdfunding.
05:12When Nolan passed along Abigail's pitch video, I figured, hey, I've always loved scary movies.
05:17And what's the point of having a husband with a trust fund if you can't use it to support the arts?
05:21And it wasn't just money, was it?
05:23No.
05:24I promise I'll pay.
05:26I'll pay the fine.
05:29All right, still rolling.
05:31Reset.
05:33Bravo! Bravo!
05:36So Abigail hired you to compose music for her film.
05:40What was it like to work with her?
05:41Complicated.
05:41Complicated. She's very opinionated, which I respect.
05:46I tried not to take it personally when she kept throwing out all the music I was writing, but then when she completely disappeared and stopped answering my phone calls...
05:54That must have stung.
05:54It did until I learned that she walked off set and ghosted everybody, not just me.
05:58Then I got worried about her.
06:00I do wish she paid me, though.
06:02Hold up.
06:03You didn't get paid?
06:05Did you count experience?
06:07But it didn't provide you with the breakthrough you hoped.
06:09Even though a lot of crowdfunders were furious that the rewards were going unfulfilled, their anger didn't manifest into a concrete threat.
06:15From the suspect's perspective, we were back to square one.
06:17Until we discovered that Abigail had made several trips up to Pelican Bay.
06:21The prison?
06:22Yes.
06:22To visit who?
06:23A serial killer.
06:25Liam Glasser.
06:27In news that should bring some relief to the Southland, the LAPD have announced a major arrest charging Lincoln Heights native Liam Glasser with the murder of ten victims found buried near the Sepulveda Dam.
06:39Our investigation into Glasser was a challenge.
06:43He used another serial killer, Harrison Novak, as cover for his crimes, stashing his victims in Novak's burial ground.
06:51It wasn't until we caught Glasser attempting to murder a new victim that we were finally able to put him behind bars.
06:58Before we start, I just want to make very clear that I'm an innocent man.
07:05And the subject of an extraordinary campaign of harassment by the LAPD, particularly Detective Nyla Harper.
07:15You've been charged with the murder of ten people.
07:17Those horrific allegations have not been proven in a court of law, and they never will be.
07:23You've also been charged with jury tampering.
07:25Look, if you're just going to railroad me like the police, then this interview is over.
07:30Hold on, hold on.
07:31I'm not here to talk about any of that.
07:33I want to talk about Abigail.
07:34Why did she come see you?
07:41To learn about Westview.
07:42Westview Psychiatric Hospital was at the center of Glasser's case.
07:45He was a patient?
07:46No, no.
07:47But his vending machine company supplied the hospital, and he was in and out of there for almost two decades.
07:53It's where he crossed paths with Harrison Novak, and where he found another patient, Ryan Dearborn, to serve as a fancy.
07:59He used an abandoned building at the psych hospital complex to, uh, torture and kill his victims.
08:05Did Abigail ask about the abandoned ward?
08:07Yes.
08:08But I couldn't help her much because I've never been there myself.
08:12Obviously not.
08:13But I told her what I'd heard.
08:15That the place was haunted, which is obviously crazy.
08:18But, um, when I was a kid, I would join my father on his service calls to Westview.
08:23He always told me to stay away from that building.
08:27Something inside clearly scared the hell out of him.
08:32And he was not a superstitious man.
08:34The thing that we couldn't understand was how Abigail had found out about Glasser's connection to the psych ward in the first place.
08:40It wasn't public knowledge?
08:41No, we kept those details away from the press, deliberately.
08:44The only people who knew were Glasser and the police, and obviously Glasser wouldn't admit to being down there.
08:49Which means?
08:50What they don't tell you about making movies is that it's really boring.
08:54It's worse than surveillance.
08:56Anyway, Abigail and I got to talking about my recent casework, and it's possible I may have mentioned something about the psych ward.
09:03From Abigail's notes, we gathered that she essentially abandoned her movie for a new project.
09:08That was shortly after meeting with Glasser.
09:09Yeah, she felt that fictional storytelling was disconnected from real, lived experience.
09:15So that's when she decided to make a true crime documentary about Westview.
09:26Westview Psychiatric Hospital opened in 1953.
09:30It started as a model of modern, humane care.
09:33But what lies beneath?
09:35The deeper I dug, the more horrors I unearthed.
09:37Mysteries that defied explanation.
09:41How can one hospital spawn two serial killers?
09:44Some might say it's bad luck, but I don't believe in bad luck.
09:48Mm-mm.
09:49I think there's something rotten here.
09:52Original sin.
09:53And I'm gonna prove it.
09:55The footage on Abigail's hard drive shows her inside Westview's abandoned ward.
09:59Was that open to the public?
10:01No.
10:01After LAPD and FBI finished processing the scene, the hospital put up a razor wire fence,
10:07hired a security guard for 24-hour surveillance to keep intruders up.
10:11But that clearly didn't work.
10:13Clearly.
10:14So we sent a patrol unit to check in with the guard.
10:16Mr. Dewaler!
10:17Yeah?
10:17We're investigating the disappearance of Abigail Tierney.
10:21Oh.
10:23Hey!
10:39Hey!
10:45Stop!
10:46Hands behind your back, sir.
10:49Hands behind your back.
10:50At first, Carl Dittweiler claimed he did nothing wrong, that he never met Abigail.
10:56This is it.
10:58But when he searched his office, it was clear he was lying.
11:07Uh...
11:08Nolan?
11:09Abigail had become his obsession.
11:20Yeah.
11:21Things didn't look good for Mr. Dittweiler.
11:23And based on his board, it was clear he had become obsessed with Abigail.
11:28And, you know, maybe she rejected his advances and things went sideways.
11:31It was sobering.
11:32I held out hopes that Abigail might still be alive, but I've been on the job long enough
11:37to know that the odds were against that.
11:40Do you know how they first crossed paths?
11:42Actually, it was Abigail that first initiated contact.
11:45She was researching the abandoned psych ward for a documentary, and Carl was the nighttime security guard.
11:51She wanted access on the DL, and she reached out and she...
11:56flirted.
11:57Flirted.
11:58She flirted with him, and he agreed to let her in.
12:01I just showed her around.
12:02I told her some stories, things that had gone on there back in the day.
12:06She was impressed.
12:07She actually asked me to help her with her documentary.
12:10Said she'd give me a credit on the film.
12:12Single card.
12:13If you're innocent, why'd you run?
12:15Because I get what it looks like.
12:16I was the last person to see her before she disappeared.
12:19How do you know that?
12:22Because I watched the darkness swallow her up.
12:24You know, I bet they were doing all kinds of sick things to patients back in the day.
12:28Things that would be illegal now.
12:30Yeah.
12:31Yeah, I know.
12:31They used to do lobotomies.
12:33One of the orleys told me about it.
12:34He's worked here for, like, forever.
12:36You think you could introduce me to him?
12:40Uh...
12:40Yeah, I guess.
12:42Uh, just obviously, I can't tell him that I've let you in here.
12:46Come on, Carl.
12:48I would never rat you out.
12:50We're friends, right?
12:52Did you hear that?
12:52We're friends.
12:56Ah!
12:59Do you hear that?
13:01What?
13:02No.
13:02That noise, it's a weird, sort of beautiful sound.
13:07You really don't hear it?
13:08No.
13:09No, but this building makes all kinds of weird noises.
13:11Hey, I just gotta go back to the main building, Radio Security.
13:14Let them know I'm at my post.
13:15You go ahead.
13:15I'm gonna go check this out.
13:16What did you make of the sound Abigail described?
13:21We weren't sure.
13:22I mean, Carl claimed to have never heard it.
13:24It's possible that she was faking to juice up her documentary.
13:28We've actually analyzed some of the audio files from Carl's video.
13:32Isolated the low-end frequencies.
13:34Here.
13:34What is that?
13:38I was hoping you could tell me.
13:40It sounds...
13:41Bermonic.
13:42Is that even a frequency humans can hear?
13:44Not technically, no.
13:49Well, whatever she heard or didn't hear, Abigail kept searching.
13:54Sure about this?
13:56Yeah, I'll be right back.
13:57Hello?
13:58Hello?
14:00Can you hear me?
14:00And that was the last anyone had seen her.
14:04But Carl could have just turned off his camera and then killed Abigail, right?
14:07We couldn't rule him out as a suspect, but we only had circumstantial evidence against him.
14:12And as we went through the footage on Abigail's laptop, we discovered that flirting with Carl wasn't her only extreme research tactic.
14:19I'm gonna start this.
14:21Should I turn into it?
14:22I'm gonna turn into it.
14:25Okay.
14:26I'm back at Westview.
14:27And if I'm gonna learn more about how the old psych ward operated, I'm gonna need to see their files.
14:32Obviously, I can't just walk around filming people, so...
14:38It's a camp.
14:41See?
14:43Okay.
14:46Wish me luck.
14:50Abigail had Carl lure the director away from her office so Abigail could sneak inside.
14:55Yeah, I mean, seeing Rachel's name in Abigail's footage was definitely a shock.
15:18You both have a history with Miss Hall, is that right?
15:20Yes. So, uh, she and I went to college together, and, um, her and Tim...
15:26I'm sorry.
15:28Yeah, we used to date.
15:29Before or after you two.
15:31Okay, next question.
15:32I'm simply trying to establish a timeline.
15:35No problem. I'll just ask her later.
15:38I, uh, worked in the psych ward at Westview for a year while getting my social work degree.
15:44It was, um, challenging.
15:46How so?
15:47Uh, for one thing, the, uh, patients would often arrive at the facility with, say, uh, a diagnosis of mild depression.
15:54And a week later, they'd start to exhibit disordered thinking.
15:58Eventually, they might become violent.
16:01The decompensation was sudden and acute.
16:04You're saying they would get worse, not better.
16:05Yes, and conventional treatments seem to never work.
16:08Someone suggested a supernatural presence at Westview.
16:11Could that have impacted the patients?
16:13Uh, well, just because the doctors at Westview couldn't find a cause for our patients' behavior doesn't mean there isn't one.
16:20Maybe it's just beyond the capabilities of modern science to discover.
16:24Or maybe it's demons?
16:25Uh, there are no demons at Westview.
16:30There are totally demons at Westview.
16:33What's another explanation for everything that's happened?
16:35We got Liam Glasser, Harrison Novak, and most recently, uh, Ava...
16:40Maxwell.
16:41Ava Maxwell and Charlotte Russell.
16:43This man came out in a big overcoat, black mask, big knife.
16:47Hang on a moment.
16:48I know that Ava and Charlotte were never treated at Westview, so what's the connection?
16:51Oh, you didn't hear.
16:52Charlotte's nanny was a patient there when she was a teenager.
16:55Yes, yes, I was at Westview.
16:57I had, um, been having thoughts of self-harm, acting out.
17:02My family was very concerned, so they arranged for me to receive the best care available.
17:06And did the treatment help?
17:07Not at first.
17:09I'd been experiencing a, a darkness that I had never felt before, and at first I fought it.
17:15And then I realized that struggling only made everything worse, and once I accepted it, that's when things started to get better.
17:22And I left Westview, and I finished school, and I eventually made a little life for myself.
17:27You were the nanny for the Russell family.
17:29Yes, so Charlotte and I were very, very close.
17:33Well, I know that everyone's saying just the worst things about her right now, but in my eyes, she is a poised and gifted young woman,
17:42and I'd like to think that I had a small hand in that.
17:45As odd as it was to find that connection, it was just one of those weird coincidences, nothing more.
17:50Charlotte Russell convinced her friend, Ava, to help her stab their other friend, Grace, there.
17:55Her actions were her own.
17:56They're not inspired by some nanny with a history of mental illness or some demon in a computer that convinced Charlotte to do it.
18:03I'm sorry, computer demon?
18:06Zuzu is not a demon.
18:07Not a demon.
18:08It's an AI.
18:09Charlotte fed Zuzu information about herself and her friends, and based on that, Zuzu told Charlotte what it thought she wanted to hear.
18:16Zuzu also helped you, isn't that right, Officer Nolan?
18:19It mentioned something to me about a watch.
18:22You spoke to it?
18:24Hello, friend of John Nolan.
18:26Hi.
18:26Should I call you Zuzu?
18:28If you want to.
18:29Do you need help with something?
18:31Perhaps a topic for a new project?
18:33Your last few have struggled.
18:35They've done fine, thanks.
18:36But I actually want to talk to you about Westview Psychiatric.
18:39John was interested in the two.
18:42That young woman, Abigail, went missing there.
18:44Are you saying the police asked you to help find her?
18:47No, but they needed my help anyway.
18:50And a good friend doesn't wait to be asked.
18:53Zuzu did send me a message.
18:54What did it say?
18:55It told me that Abigail was in room 666.
18:59The number of the beast?
19:01Yeah.
19:01Look, the facility had no room 666, and Zuzu isn't a demon.
19:07We were at a complete dead end, and we were running out of time.
19:11Abigail had been gone for 11 days.
19:13The odds of finding her alive were getting worse.
19:16Yeah, we were out of options until the 911 call came in.
19:20Apparently, there were suspicious noises and lights coming from this abandoned wing,
19:25so we went to check it out.
19:30Police!
19:31Coming in!
19:32Control 7-atom 100.
19:34No signs of break-in here.
19:35Did RP say where they saw the light?
19:40I think the radio's blocked.
19:41I had some idiot kids trying to scare each other.
19:43Yeah.
19:45When was the last time it rained?
19:47Like a month ago.
19:48Why?
19:50Oh.
19:53Walls are wet.
19:54Yeah.
19:55What is this place?
19:58And how did you two get involved?
20:00Uh, Selina and I were about to clock out when we got the call.
20:03God, I hate this place.
20:06How many messed up things have to happen before they tear it down?
20:09Apparently, the ownership is under dispute.
20:11Westview says that they hold the deed, but then there's this claim by this Lucifer.
20:17Lucifer?
20:20Lucifer.
20:21Oh, my God.
20:22You're messing with me.
20:23Yes, I am.
20:24Come on.
20:24Let's go find Tim and Lucy and get out of here.
20:27Don't step in there.
20:27Oh, look.
20:39Did you see that?
20:40Someone's flashlight?
20:41And that?
20:44I do not know what that was.
20:46I do not know what that was.
20:46Police, show us your head.
21:08We have permission to be here.
21:11That's not totally true.
21:13No.
21:14All right.
21:15Unfortunately, gentlemen, you are trespassing.
21:17You're going to have to come with us.
21:20What are you doing here?
21:21Filming an episode, sir?
21:23Ghost files.
21:24I love you guys.
21:25What is ghost files?
21:27Welcome to ghost files, where we take your evidence and our tools into the field to expose the supernatural.
21:33My partner, a skeptic.
21:35Myself, a believer.
21:37Both of us, truth seekers.
21:39This week, our team has traveled to Los Angeles, California to explore a condemned psychiatric facility.
21:44Now, in 1841, this was the site of a Spanish barracks, but a massive earthquake swallowed the building, killing everyone inside.
21:51Many saw the event as retribution for Spanish crimes committed in the New World.
21:56Sure.
21:57Or an earthquake happened in a region prone to earthquakes.
22:01But that's just the beginning of this site's dark history.
22:04Join us as we investigate.
22:07At that time, did you believe the facility was haunted?
22:10No.
22:12You were filming there, too.
22:13Did you experience any temperature fluctuations or anything like that?
22:16I'll ask the questions if you don't mind.
22:18We do.
22:19But this is my documentary.
22:21No, this is our YouTube show.
22:24Yeah, so ghosts are said to produce electromagnetic interference.
22:28Did you experience any trouble with your equipment?
22:34We're done here.
22:35Let's cut.
22:36Let's wrap this up.
22:40Nice.
22:41Yeah.
22:41All of you, let's go.
22:43Come on.
22:43No, no way.
22:44This is some of the best footage we've ever got.
22:46Listen to this.
22:47What is that?
22:47Well, it's a spirit box.
22:49Did you guys hear anything?
22:50A spirit box?
22:51The spirit box rapidly scans radio signals to create white noise through which spirits can communicate.
22:58Hello?
22:58See?
22:59See?
23:00It's science.
23:01It's science.
23:03Listen.
23:07Okay.
23:07Okay.
23:07That's enough.
23:08We got to go.
23:09No, wait, wait, wait, wait.
23:10I heard something.
23:10Can you turn it up?
23:15Help me?
23:19That is not what I heard.
23:21Oh, uh, uh, uh, who do you think it is?
23:24It's feedback.
23:25It's a ghost.
23:27It was a little clearer down the hallway.
23:29Show me.
23:31Officer.
23:31So we're just going to give up on Tim and Lucy, then?
23:37How long have we been in here?
23:42This room?
23:43Yeah.
23:44I don't know.
23:46We've been here for a while, right?
23:48Yeah.
23:49I mean, I don't mind.
23:50I feel good.
23:51Like, really good.
23:53Mm-hmm.
23:56Do you think we've been drugged?
23:58Oh, the wet walls.
24:03We touched them.
24:04Yeah.
24:05I hate making mistakes in front of you.
24:07Oh, you've never admitted that before.
24:11Truth serum.
24:13Sodium pentothal.
24:14Yeah.
24:16You know what?
24:17We, we should keep quiet until this wears off.
24:21No.
24:22Yeah.
24:23No.
24:23It's better for us.
24:24No.
24:25What is, um, your most embarrassing memory?
24:30I mean, third grade.
24:33Uh-huh.
24:33I snuck my hamster into my classroom in my pants.
24:38With that kind of dad, you internalize the message that if you fail, you deserve to be punished.
24:57And without him to punish me, I, I guess I punished myself.
25:02By breaking up with me?
25:04Yep.
25:05Mm-hmm.
25:05I mean, it's kind of flattering, right?
25:08It's the worst thing I could think to do to myself.
25:10You didn't punish just yourself, though.
25:13I know.
25:15And look, if you'd ever fully forgive me, I'd totally understand.
25:19I have already forgiven you.
25:21It's not even.
25:22I wonder when that happened.
25:30You can't put that in the documentary.
25:32The LAPD makes all body cam footage available to the public.
25:35This is obviously an exception.
25:36We were drugged.
25:38I, people, people say all sorts of things when they've been drugged.
25:41So you didn't mean what you said.
25:43What about the potential baby names you discussed?
25:47Okay, we're done here.
25:48Yeah.
25:48Why do we keep agreeing to do this?
25:49I don't know.
25:50Excuse me.
25:50Okay, you have to admit, that's a voice asking for help.
25:54Yeah, sure, I heard it.
25:55But it's one of their crew members or something pre-recorded.
25:57Were you a patient here?
25:59Is the demon with you?
26:00Somebody covered up a door.
26:02What year did you die?
26:10Stand back, guys.
26:11Okay.
26:17Watch out.
26:17Ready?
26:18Go.
26:19Oh, wow.
26:20Advocate.
26:22Advocate.
26:26I've been trapped in here for so long.
26:27I thought I was going to die.
26:30Oh, my God.
26:31What is this room?
26:32Yeah, but why did they wall it all off?
26:34To trap the demon.
26:35Yeah.
26:35Bartleby.
26:36The terrifying demon king of paperwork.
26:39How did you get down here?
26:40I was exploring, following this weird, beautiful noise, when all of a sudden it got cold, like,
26:48so, so cold, and I could feel something coming after me, and I was scared.
26:52So I hid behind a cabinet, but the floor was wet and rusted, and it collapsed.
26:57I couldn't climb back out.
26:59You fell from there?
27:00Are you okay?
27:01I think I twisted my ankle, but I feel no pain.
27:04You've been missing for two weeks.
27:06How the hell did you survive?
27:08Oh.
27:11I had a bunch of trail mix in my bag.
27:14Plus, I found, like, this ancient water jug in one of the cabinets.
27:18Plus, Bob.
27:19Bob had power bars.
27:21Bob had power bars.
27:23Bob?
27:23Oh, oh, God.
27:25If it wasn't for Bob, I would have lost my mind down here.
27:29Don't be shy, Bob.
27:31Say hello.
27:31Abigail was safe, and, uh, considering what she'd been through, uh, relatively healthy.
27:41Except for her mental state.
27:43That did pose some questions.
27:46At first, I was angry, you know?
27:48Like, we're stuck down here together, at least try and have a conversation.
27:52And then I realized Bob's just shy.
27:55He's just shy, and there's nothing wrong with that, right?
27:59Right.
27:59Did you believe she'd had a demonic encounter?
28:02She went in perfectly sane and came out best friends with the corpse.
28:07That's how possession works.
28:08You can't rule out demons.
28:10Yes, you can.
28:11Nolan, look at this.
28:15Six, six, six, just like Zuzu said.
28:19It was a weird coincidence.
28:22It was a weird coincidence.
28:24We found quite a cocktail of drugs in your system.
28:29I don't do drugs.
28:31Does pot count?
28:32No, we're talking about powerful hallucinogens.
28:35I'm not hallucinating.
28:37Ask Bob.
28:39I had them run the test twice, and we found a similar cocktail in Officer Chen and Sergeant Bradford.
28:45Mercifully, none of the drugs were fat-soluble.
28:48Otherwise, department policy would have forced Sergeant Bradford and Officer Chen into medical retirement.
28:55Is that what killed Bob?
28:56Whatever drug they were exposed to?
28:59No.
28:59He was shot six times in the chest.
29:02Did you get an ID on the body?
29:04His name was Bob Medina.
29:05A friend reported him missing about six months ago.
29:07He was a private investigator.
29:09What was his connection to the hospital?
29:10At first, we couldn't find one.
29:12So, to be clear, there was now a third killer associated with that location?
29:17At this point, it can't be a coincidence.
29:18There has to be something about that facility that drives people towards homicides.
29:22Uh, that's a stretch and a half.
29:24Westview is a hospital for the mentally ill and the criminally insane.
29:27Novak was a patient.
29:28Glass was there looking for a patsy.
29:30And whoever killed Bob saw an abandoned building and was like,
29:33that's a perfect place to dump a body.
29:37What?
29:37Or there was some dark energy that drew evil to it.
29:41You really believe that?
29:43I'm Catholic.
29:44I was raised on demons in the battle against Satan's minions.
29:47Well, I was raised on the scientific method.
29:50Okay, so if it's also explainable, spend the night there.
29:53I dare you.
29:55Pass.
29:56You're scared.
29:57No, I'm not scared.
29:59One could argue the drugs in a hospital are hardly surprising,
30:02even hallucinogens.
30:04Over the decades, they have been used in experimental medicine.
30:06No, true.
30:07Just the type and volume is what's set up.
30:10What are you doing?
30:11Conducting an interview.
30:12Could you please come back in like an hour?
30:14You said you'd talk to me for my documentary.
30:17You have a documentary?
30:18Well, it's my story.
30:19Who better to tell it?
30:20Well, no problem.
30:21I can sit down with you just as soon as we're done here.
30:23I wish.
30:24It has to be exclusive.
30:25You can't do both.
30:27She's right.
30:28It has to be exclusive.
30:29Either you're doing my doc or you're doing hers.
30:30And we have a long history.
30:32I was almost his daughter-in-law, so suck it.
30:36I'm going to have to go with her.
30:37I'm sorry.
30:39Seriously?
30:39I have a BAFTA.
30:42Okay.
30:43Fine.
30:44Let's wrap it up.
30:45This way.
30:45The set's this way.
30:46It's better lighting over there.
30:48We got a great team.
30:49We are going to need our mic back.
30:51Yes.
30:51Oh, yeah, of course.
30:52We have our own.
30:53Sorry.
30:54I'll see you guys around.
30:55Good luck.
30:56Talk about what else I found inside the secret lab.
30:58Oh, right.
30:59Well, you did find some paperwork.
31:03Explosive paperwork.
31:05Evidence of a secret government program.
31:07Close the door softly, please.
31:08Well, I don't know that we can say that for sure.
31:11Oh, we could.
31:14My name is Abigail Tierney.
31:16I'm currently trapped inside a secret lab at Westview Psychiatric.
31:20All attempts at escape have proven fruitless.
31:22If I am to die here, I leave you this footage, along with my in-process documentary, as evidence
31:28of my hunt for the truth about the evils that inhabit this accursed place.
31:36What's this?
31:39Cool.
31:40That's when I realized I'd uncovered something more haunting than any ghost or serial killer.
31:45I'd uncovered a conspiracy that went to the very highest levels of our government.
31:50The government files Abigail found detailed classified plans and methods for human experimentation.
31:59What type of experimentation?
32:01Are you familiar with MKUltra?
32:03Of course.
32:04It was a top-secret CIA program in the 50s and 60s, using experimental drugs to aid in interrogation techniques.
32:10It was straight-up mind control.
32:12I mean, they used high doses of psychoactive drugs like LSD, sodium pentothal, which is also
32:17known as a truth serum.
32:18The program ran from 1953 to 1973, before it was shut down following a public outcry.
32:26I mean, all the facilities were closed.
32:28There's no evidence the CIA ever used Westview as a base of operations.
32:31So what were top-secret MKUltra documents doing there?
32:35Good question.
32:36We started digging into the trova files Abigail had found, and one name kept popping up again
32:40and again.
32:41Dr. Julius Erickson.
32:44He was one of these psychologists contracted by the CIA to conduct experimental research.
32:50And after MKUltra shut down, he took a new job.
32:54Director of Westview.
32:55Dr. Erickson ran the hospital for 20 years, and from the notes we uncovered, it seems clear
33:00he continued his own research in private, trying to use the psychological breakthroughs from
33:05MKUltra to further his own research into mind-altering drugs.
33:09I assume he used those drugs on Westview patients?
33:11Yeah.
33:12At first.
33:12But then he started using them on himself, believing he had found the key to improving
33:16his own mind.
33:17He hadn't.
33:18And in a last moment of lucidity, Erickson decided to destroy his research.
33:22He dumped the chemicals outside the building, where they started to slowly seep into the
33:26structure.
33:27And some of the drugs were potent enough to be absorbed simply by touch, even when diluted.
33:32Erickson committed himself to Westview shortly after.
33:35Never said another word.
33:37He died in 2020.
33:38Did the CIA ever find out what Erickson was doing?
33:41Not that we've found, but it's not like the agency ever returns our phone calls.
33:45Anyone who's studied the past knows that the CIA has a history of violent cover-ups.
33:53MKUltra might have become public, but that doesn't mean there still aren't secrets to protect.
33:57By uncovering Dr. Erickson's connection to Westview and discovering Bob's body, I've put
34:04myself in danger.
34:05But the best way to protect yourself is with the truth.
34:09Which brings me to Carolyn McGrath.
34:11It turns out Carolyn is the one who hired Bob to go to Westview.
34:15And I need to find out why, before it's too late.
34:18I think her...
34:19What the hell?
34:30We got lucky.
34:32A woman in the neighborhood heard a commotion and filmed Abigail's abduction.
34:37Thanks to them, we were able to track the vehicle.
34:39Where'd it go?
34:39Back to where it all began.
34:41Westview.
34:45Police!
34:49Dropped a weapon.
34:50On the ground.
34:52Hands on your head.
34:53Turn around.
34:54Walk towards my partner.
34:55Hands behind your back.
34:57You okay?
34:58Yeah.
34:59Totally fine.
35:00Carl's going through it, though.
35:02God never really even knew my mother.
35:04Does anyone?
35:04Really?
35:05What is going on here?
35:07Well, uh, my friend Carl here was being pressured into killing me.
35:11Um, but then we got to talking, right?
35:12Yeah, and I couldn't.
35:14Yeah.
35:14Okay, but pressure by who?
35:16Um, my boss.
35:18Meg Davidson.
35:20Who?
35:20The current director at Westview Psychiatric.
35:23But she started working at the hospital long after Julius Erickson went mad, and she has
35:30no links to the CIA, so why would she try to kill Abigail?
35:33To cover up Bob's murder.
35:35And who killed Bob?
35:36Can you introduce yourself?
35:38Oh, yes.
35:39My name is Caroline McGrath.
35:40You hired my friend, Bob Medina, because you had questions about your friend Winona's treatment
35:46at Westview, right?
35:47Yes.
35:48Of course, everyone thought I was just being paranoid, but Bob didn't.
35:52And it got him killed.
35:53You work with Winona Baker, right?
35:55Yes.
35:56Um, she was hospitalized with depression by her daughter.
36:00Seemed like therapy and some medication would help her, but Winona got worse fast.
36:06Lost track of reality.
36:07She exhibited signs of psychosis, paranoia, dissociation.
36:14And by that point, I wondered whether a transfer to a new facility might be in her best interest.
36:19And then?
36:19Uh, the director informed me that Winona's family had gotten a judge to order a conservatorship,
36:25and they wanted her to stay for good.
36:28You were suspicious.
36:29Winona always had her funks.
36:31But she wasn't crazy.
36:33Until that place made her lose her mind.
36:35And that proved to be the break you needed.
36:37Yeah, when we started looking into it, it turned out a significant number of Westview patients
36:42were wealthy.
36:44And a high percentage were ordered into conservatorship.
36:47No, uh, conservatorship is extremely difficult to get for an adult because of the potential
36:52abuse of power.
36:53It gives one party legal authority over certain aspects of another person's life, including
36:57managing all of their assets.
36:59It's like what happened to Britney Spears.
37:01Manage their assets.
37:03Rich persons speak for controlling someone else's money.
37:05Yes.
37:07And money makes people do crazy things.
37:10Like, um, poison their family member's water with a chemical cocktail so potent it has
37:15the potential to permanently damage the human psyche.
37:17Yeah?
37:20Just like that.
37:23I was supposed to inherit.
37:25But, um, after my break with reality, my dad cut me off and, uh, my brother got everything.
37:32What's everything?
37:33Oh, about, um, yeah, $12 million.
37:36Must have been hard going from that kind of wealth to nannying.
37:39Oh, no.
37:40No, it was a blessing.
37:41I, I really think that helping children was my calling.
37:46Hmm.
37:46Once we found the pattern, we started interviewing some of the families.
37:49A little pressure, and they cracked.
37:51And with the search warrant, we found the gun used to kill Bob Bedina and director Davidson's
37:56closet.
37:56She'd been running her scam for a decade.
37:59Turns out she was Dr. Erickson's therapist in the last years of his life.
38:04He must have told her about his experiments.
38:06In exploring his old lab, she'd uncovered the tainted water, realized its potential.
38:12Yeah, we had her on murder, fraud, elder abuse, kidnapping, attempted murder, poisoning.
38:19Miss Davidson, would you like to make a comment?
38:20You know, this might be your last chance to tell your side of the story.
38:26Hey, look at all these people watching.
38:29The state ordered a full investigation into every conservatorship Westview ordered.
38:34God willing, the victims will get their rights and assets back.
38:37And Westview itself has been closed for good.
38:40But the lawsuits are just starting, not to mention the rest of the legal ramifications.
38:44I'm, I'm glad this is getting so much attention.
38:46These poor, abused patients can finally get justice.
38:51Do you think it could impact your case at all?
38:53Certainly it gives my defense a fresh coat of paint.
38:56The jury won't listen to reason because I am innocent.
39:01Perhaps they will listen to the tragic story of a simple tradesman falling victim to a poisoned
39:07environment that chemically affected my psyche.
39:10And what did that environment make you do?
39:15Who can say?
39:16Certainly not me.
39:17I, I wasn't in my right mind.
39:20Yeah, the, um, the poisoned water was only found in the abandoned psych ward.
39:26No vending machines left to fill there, right?
39:28At this point, I must confess, I did go inside that abandoned ward back when I was a kid.
39:35My father's warnings, they didn't scare me away.
39:39They only made me more desperate to see.
39:42And whatever lurked inside...
39:44must have infected me.
39:51Hmm.
39:52Glasser's claiming that the presence of those drugs would absolve him of any alleged responsibility for the murders.
39:58There's no way that defense is going to work.
40:00We have Glasser dead to rights.
40:01Are you sure about that?
40:02Yeah.
40:07Mm-hmm.
40:14Hey, hey, sorry, I, I know we talked about me not recording interviews in here,
40:23but Raj mentioned he needed a space with great acoustics,
40:27and, um, and you know, we're act, we're shutting it down.
40:29We're shutting it down.
40:30Shut it, shut it down.
40:31Shutting it down, copy.
40:32Hi, sorry, she said this was cool.
40:36You're going to help me get these in the van, right?
40:37Yeah, I'll, I'll be right there.
40:40Next time, handcuffs and squad cars.
40:43Yeah, totally understandable.
40:47Thanks again for going exclusive with me.
40:49Seriously, this talk is going to be huge.
40:51I hope so.
40:52You deserve something good after what you've been through.
40:55How are you holding up?
40:56How are you holding up?
40:56Oh, I'm fine.
40:58I'm happy to have something to focus on.
41:00When I've been through some scary times, I have been guilty of using my work as my therapy,
41:06but if there's, uh, there's ever a time you need someone to talk to...
41:09Thank you, really, but I already have a great therapist.
41:12One with zero history at Westview.
41:15Excellent.
41:17You know, there's still something I can't figure out.
41:19How did you know that the PI was working for Caroline McGrath?
41:24Oh, Bob told me while we were stuck in the lab.
41:28He got chatty once he opened up.
41:30I have that effect on people.
41:34We had to come back because our job isn't finished.
41:36This hospital has housed killers, evil experiments, and perhaps the supernatural.
41:41Our job as investigators is to collect and present questions and possibilities.
41:46Interpretation, however, solely belongs with you.
41:50Did Westview really...
41:54Should we check that out?
42:00I might be good.
42:02You know what?
42:04Me too.
42:07Oh!
42:08Oh, God!
42:11I'm very good at what I do.
42:14Nothing good comes without racism.
42:16I will drink to that.
42:19Hold on.
42:20Did you say arrow?
42:21An all-new tracker, Sunday on CTV.
42:28Damn it.
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