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00:00I didn't bring my vibrator you can borrow mine it's brand new from Amazon
00:11Mikayla we are supposed to be the level-headed moral compasses in the
00:14group okay we are heading from LA to Palm Springs today we are going to
00:20Stagecoach which is a big country music festival it's us girls some of the
00:25husbands some friends are joining us I'm super excited for this weekend the
00:29Demi and Marciano drama it has consumed my life and now that I've had a
00:33conversation with Demi I feel like I can have a good time and put all of that
00:37behind me Jen's still super sick brother are you serious she's like I'm dying
00:40I'm going to Instacare girl if you're sick enough that you actually have to go to
00:45an Instacare you need to go home I'm so confused still with the Jordan Stagecoach
00:51thing I'm more confused why is Dakota there I know I love how it affects you
00:56way more than it affects anybody guys you're gonna be fighting with Dakota
01:00you're gonna go try to sleep with him or something since we had the barbecue with
01:04Jordan mom talk and dad talk we haven't been seeing eye to eye if the roles were
01:08reversed I think you guys wouldn't be okay with you guys think we were sitting on
01:11his lap having him feed us tacos I decided to invite them to Stagecoach I'm just
01:17hoping that we can let loose and not have things be so serious and heavy and just
01:23have fun I wonder how much drama there's gonna be today like Dakota's gonna get
01:27mad at Taylor at some point I'm gonna be like bye bye all you guys annoying toxic
01:32couples what I don't understand I don't understand why we volunteered or had
01:38Taylor voted her as our leader because she said if we ever see Whitney and Demi
01:42she'll tell him to fuck off and then all of a sudden I met in a mean way like if
01:48Whitney comes up to you and is bitching at your face or Demi when he's always
01:52bitching she's always talking out of her ass Whitney will make an appearance at
01:57stagecoach so it's my responsibility as the leader to be the voice of reason
02:01here I just want her to feel welcome and do the other girls feel the same maybe not
02:06the thing is if she yaps at me that's when I'll get fire you always yapping
02:10no
02:13I'm the one you've been dreaming of I've got everything you could ever want
02:30try me in your sleep out bring it to your knees baby you're gonna believe
03:38Because this is the best and nicest and biggest place we've ever stayed.
03:42I'm like, I don't want to go to stagecoach.
03:44I just want to stay here.
03:46Just waiting for Dakota's dumb head to pop for the damn door.
03:48I was kind of worried, but where's Jacob?
03:50I was just waiting for my day to be ruined.
03:52Have you even talked to Dakota?
03:53No, it's like, we're always really nice to each other in person.
03:55It's just like, I just don't want him around.
03:57I'm obviously not happy to hear that Dakota might be trying to crash our stagecoach event.
04:02I feel like Taylor has made so much progress in therapy.
04:05I'm just afraid Dakota is trying to claw his way back into Taylor's heart.
04:10I think he likes country music.
04:11Oh, Kate's calling me.
04:13Hey, hey, hey.
04:14Hi, where are you guys?
04:15We made it.
04:16We're just walking in.
04:17There's like a big tactic.
04:18Oh, yes.
04:18Yeah.
04:19Okay, I'm coming.
04:19Kate, bye.
04:20I decided to invite some girls that are outside of MomTalk that can have a little bit more fun.
04:24You know, we have a lot of pregnant girls, but then we also have girls that don't even drink.
04:27So I feel like it was kind of fun to be able to have girls that can let loose a little bit
04:30and just make the most of the strut.
04:38We're ready to play!
04:41It'll be okay.
04:44I do it.
04:45I do it like this because I can't.
04:48It's the lifestyle.
04:52Guys, she did stories.
04:54What?
04:55Did me.
04:55She posted stories?
04:56Yeah, go look.
04:57Oh, shit.
04:58It seems pretty clear, but I guess some people are still confused.
05:02Unwanted physical touch equals assault, period.
05:05The end.
05:06To the people that were made aware of these events and watched me cry,
05:09and then proceed to use their platforms to victim shame, publicly call me a liar,
05:14and judge the way I handled it, from the bottom of my heart, shame on every last one of you.
05:18When did we ever see her cry about it?
05:21She never cried about that situation.
05:22Not once have I seen her shed a tear.
05:24Said that's towards all of us, you guys.
05:25To me, the story of being a victim of sexual assault, that no one supported her,
05:29basically alluding to all of mom talk.
05:32And to be honest, it's a little offensive that she could group us all together in this situation.
05:37Maybe we don't believe the whole situation, like we don't believe the whole story she's telling,
05:40because logically it's not adding up or making any sense.
05:44But no one has sat here and victim shamed her, especially not me.
05:47Every single time I've talked to her about the situation, I'm not a victim in this situation.
05:51I'm not a victim.
05:51But then the other night, she said, no, I never said that.
05:53I would never victim shame, like, anyone.
05:56And I feel like it's very offensive to me as a victim of sexual abuse as a child.
06:03Macy is also a victim of sexual assault.
06:05And so it just enrages me a little bit.
06:08I have my opinion on it.
06:11I'm not going to say for a fact this is what happened.
06:13Yeah, I'm not saying that's for a fact.
06:14No, but the stuff we've seen is not good.
06:17Yeah.
06:18So let's just say hypothetically, let's just say she's telling the truth on her end.
06:21Her posts are not okay.
06:23Demi's post feels like very, like, calculated, like I'm going to destroy mom talk.
06:27We've kind of all seen it.
06:28I can't believe I even sat and talked to her.
06:30I feel like Demi is starting a war with mom talk right now.
06:34And I'm so, so exhausted.
06:36Unfortunately, we're going to have to see Demi at the press events coming up.
06:40So I just don't know what chaos is going to unfold with all of us being together.
06:45Guys, it makes me sick.
06:55Dude, this is so crazy.
07:00Oh my gosh.
07:02I don't know about that.
07:03What?
07:04Let's go.
07:04What the hell?
07:06Knock, knock.
07:11Crap.
07:11Howdy do.
07:12Hey there, little ladies.
07:13Oh, are you so tired, honey?
07:15I bet you're so exhausted.
07:17You all right?
07:17Fucking pissed.
07:19I'm sorry.
07:20It sucks.
07:21Don't let her guess at you.
07:22Don't let her guess at you.
07:23And if you need me to be there, I'll be there that minute.
07:26Jordan and I are still in the 90-day separation.
07:28And I'm not sure what direction we're going to go after the separation's done, but things are
07:34getting a little better.
07:35And I am glad he's here right now because he's been through this whole situation with me.
07:39He's seen the frustrations I've had with Demi, and he can be a shoulder I can lean on during
07:44this time.
07:45Hey, what's the update on Jen?
07:46She is in an Uber on her way here.
07:49Originally, I didn't want Dakota staying with us at all, but I don't think it's that big of a
07:53deal at the end of the day.
07:54I feel like this place is huge.
07:55Like, why not?
07:55Oh, my gosh.
07:56I want a paddleboard.
07:58I would knock you off so fast.
08:00Oh, my gosh.
08:00Look at that.
08:01You guys could reenact a notebook in this boat.
08:04If I'm a bird, you're a bird.
08:06I have a lot going on in my life, personally, that has, like, woken me up to focus on what's
08:11happening right now rather than what has happened.
08:13This is like a pool house.
08:15Isn't it cute?
08:16Someone in my family, like, just got diagnosed with cancer.
08:19For this to happen was really heartbreaking and was a big wake-up called, like, Whoa.
08:24I've wasted so much time, like, crying about the past, and now I want to live life.
08:29Like, let things go.
08:30This is empty, so you guys can do what you want with it.
08:34So if he wants to come and have some fun, he can come.
08:36Appreciate it.
08:36Throw a rager.
08:37Bring some girls back.
08:38Use yourself tan or whiten your teeth tonight.
08:40I was looking at him.
08:41Whatever.
08:42It's whatever.
08:43Do you want to go see our room?
08:45Yeah, I got to chill out for a minute.
08:48Jeez, baby.
08:49Can you believe it?
08:50This is insane.
08:51The master is bigger than our entire home.
08:55Oh, my God.
08:56Honey, there's a sauna.
09:00I feel like we haven't been away from the kids in a minute.
09:03And so I'm like, this would be a good time to just relax.
09:06Honey, I love that.
09:07So, Jason and I have been struggling for a while with our intimacy and our sexual connection in our marriage.
09:13This big room is incredible.
09:14Isn't it amazing?
09:16Even though my therapist recommended us doing couples therapy, I haven't scheduled it yet.
09:21I think there is a part of me that's still not ready to tell Jace the full truth and open up to him fully.
09:26But I still want to show him that I'm putting in effort and I'm still showing up in other ways.
09:31Have fun.
09:32I'm very happy.
09:33Very excited.
09:34This was going to be my inspo for positions.
09:36That gets you going, baby.
09:38Nice.
09:40Love it.
09:41So saucy.
09:42So promiscuous of you.
09:45Now we'll spin around.
09:46This was a sexy school teacher chair, you know?
09:50Yeah, I could do that too.
09:51That was my inspo.
09:52Call me professor.
09:54Ew.
09:55Does Mikayla ask to roleplay often?
09:59This is not typical for her.
10:02At the beginnings of our relationship, maybe we would have done something like this.
10:05But it's so awesome that she's trying.
10:08And I'm really excited.
10:09There's almost enough space in here to do all my moves.
10:13Show me your moves.
10:14That's for tonight.
10:15For the hot tub?
10:17For the shower?
10:18The sauna?
10:20Yes.
10:21All three?
10:22It's like a buffet.
10:24Oh.
10:25We have to go get ready.
10:28Oh, yeah.
10:30Oh, yeah.
10:32Let's see it.
10:34Cute.
10:35Cute.
10:36That's cute.
10:37Yes.
10:38Don't move, don't move, don't move.
10:39Woo.
10:40Stagecoach is mostly about the music, but it's all part of the experience to dress up and look
10:51hot to.
10:52I probably packed like 10 outfit options for Stagecoach.
10:56Definitely looking forward to just catching some eyes, you know?
10:59That's just me, though.
11:00That's just me, though.
11:05All right.
11:07We're going to die.
11:08In a good way or a bad way?
11:09You're going to die.
11:09It's going to make your whole night.
11:11Because you just messaged me.
11:12Who?
11:12Lana Del Rey.
11:13No!
11:14You're fucking hearing me!
11:15Shelby, Shelby, Shelby, Shelby.
11:16She doesn't come side stage.
11:18You're joking.
11:18No, I'm literally kidding.
11:19You're joking!
11:20Shut up, shut up, shut up!
11:23Lana Del Rey messaged me saying that she wants to meet us and give us side stage passes.
11:29Apparently, she's a huge fan of Mom Talk and the show, and she followed me, which was
11:33so surreal.
11:34You're going to die.
11:35Guess who just messaged me?
11:37Who?
11:37Lana Del Rey.
11:38Shut up.
11:39She said that I can only come backstage and nobody else.
11:41You're lying.
11:43No, but she said we can come side stage.
11:46Absolutely insane.
11:48I have probably made out to almost all of her songs with different boyfriends over the
11:52years.
11:52When I was in my teens, like, Lana Del Rey is watching her show.
11:56Like, it is so bizarre.
11:58You know what?
11:58I don't even care.
11:59Jordan's staying here on Dakota.
12:00Okay.
12:01We're going to meet Lana.
12:02Yeah.
12:03The car is leaving.
12:04If you're not in the lobby, you're getting left behind.
12:07Oh, where's Shen?
12:08She's still ever in here.
12:09Oh, my gosh.
12:10She was supposed to be here, like, an hour and a half ago, right?
12:12She's still two hours away.
12:14The car died.
12:14She was in a Tesla, and it died, so they're charging that station.
12:17I would be livid.
12:18But anyways, you guys have fun, though.
12:20Oh, my goodness.
12:22Was there a party, guys?
12:23This is dope.
12:24Is it fucking weird?
12:25Ain't no better place in the country than the country, no.
12:27Ain't no better place in the country than the country, no.
12:31That's the famous Ferris wheel.
12:55So we're on our way to see Lana Del Rey.
13:04I'm so excited.
13:05I'm here to win it all.
13:11I'm here to win it all.
13:16I want it all.
13:17So good.
13:18I love it.
13:18Okay, are you guys, like, mic'd up?
13:21Yeah.
13:21Shut up.
13:22We're, like, working while we're here.
13:23We're not just right here.
13:24No, yeah, we're always mic'd up.
13:26Yes.
13:27How's everything going?
13:28What's...
13:29It's so busy.
13:29Chaos.
13:30Chaos.
13:31Chaos.
13:31What do you feel like...
13:32Okay.
13:33What should I do on?
13:34Is Vinny friend or fire?
13:37Oh, no.
13:38I like to ask you.
13:38You're talking to the wrong person.
13:39Yeah, I turned that.
13:40I'm not...
13:40Is that even, like, a problem?
13:43Oh, yeah.
13:44She's the villain for sure.
13:45Yeah, well...
13:46Oh, yeah.
13:47No, it's real.
13:48Wait till you see season two.
13:50Yeah, I know.
13:50Yeah.
13:51Meeting Lana is incredible.
13:53She is ten times more beautiful in person.
13:55She literally looks like an angel,
13:57and I'm so excited to be here.
13:59Thank you again for having us.
14:00You're amazing.
14:01Thank you so much.
14:02So nice to meet you all.
14:03Bye.
14:04Bye.
14:04Bye.
14:04Bye.
14:04Bye.
14:04Bye.
14:04Bye.
14:04Bye.
14:04Bye.
14:04Bye.
14:04Bye.
14:04Bye.
14:05Bye.
14:05Bye.
14:05Bye.
14:05Bye.
14:05Bye.
14:06Bye.
14:06Bye.
14:07Bye.
14:08Bye.
14:09Bye.
14:10Bye.
14:11Bye.
14:12I haven't had a good night's sleep in a month and a half.
14:15Why haven't you been sleeping?
14:16Just because?
14:17Guilt.
14:19Sadness.
14:20Like, there's always, like, things that you look back and you're like,
14:22I wish I wouldn't have done that.
14:24Wish I would have done this.
14:25You could tell you, lover.
14:26I know.
14:28Lost my friends.
14:29Yeah.
14:30I call on them, or?
14:32My phone's dead.
14:33I feel like they'd be over there dancing and singing.
14:35They're not over here.
14:36You cowboys.
14:37Such cowboys.
14:40You're cute.
14:40You guys have to high five, you know?
14:43We're trying.
14:44We're trying.
14:44All right.
14:44Well, I'll, you guys, I'll leave you.
14:45No, you're good.
14:46See, you're dead.
14:48Have to go on.
14:49I know what you'll tell him.
14:50Give me one second.
14:52I'm going to watch how he reacts.
14:53So I can see Dakota at the corner of my eye talking to a girl.
14:57Even though we are broken up, I get easily triggered when I am witnessing him talking
15:03to girls.
15:04That's one of my, um, wounds with him.
15:07Dakota.
15:08No.
15:08What were you telling her?
15:11I don't know.
15:12When she was trying to leave, what were you telling her?
15:15I don't, I don't remember what I said.
15:17Yeah, you, wait, you don't remember what you just said two seconds ago?
15:19Tell, Jace, tell, just say what you just said, the energy I was giving her.
15:23Wait, you don't know what you just said two seconds ago?
15:26Do you guys remember?
15:27Oh my gosh, you don't even remember.
15:28See, that's like your go-to.
15:29Oh, wait, oh, wait.
15:30I remember.
15:30It's your go-to.
15:35Yeah.
15:37Yeah, there you go.
15:40You're not doing anything.
15:43It might seem that I am overreacting over the situation, but I had to walk away from someone
15:49that I didn't want to walk away from.
15:51So things like this, it is really hard because this is someone I really cared for.
15:54I wanted him.
15:55I cared about him.
15:57I loved him.
15:58I know Taylor very well.
16:04I still think she wants to be with me, but I also understand she has her boundaries,
16:10which I respect.
16:11I love that.
16:12But if Taylor was to come to me and be like, hey, I want to be with you, I'd say yeah.
16:23Okay.
16:24It's hard because the goal is to focus on healthy co-parenting relationship, but ever
16:38since I found out about my family member, there has been something in me that's like
16:41we need to be thankful for what we have because we don't know the last time we're going to
16:46talk to somebody.
16:47And so in this moment, there is a part of me that's like, oh, I do love him.
16:52But it's also, I think, this is confusing.
17:02Bedtime.
17:03Good night.
17:04Good night.
17:05Good sleep.
17:06Yeah, I can't wait to sleep.
17:07I'm so excited.
17:07Even though I am really, really sick, I still want to show up to stage coach because I'm
17:25really trying hard to put in my effort when it comes to rejoining MomTalk and being a part
17:31of MomTalk, because I've already missed so much in the past couple of months, I don't
17:38want to miss this.
17:40Do you have one here, though?
17:41Yeah.
17:42You also have a sauna down in Makayla's room if you want to release that.
17:46I have, like, just one of hers.
17:50I think it's ready.
17:52Is it hot?
17:53Yeah, it's pretty hot.
17:54Should I get the bubbles going?
17:56A little nice massage jets.
17:58That sounds perfect, honey.
17:59It has been the perfect night, meeting Lana, going to stage coach, being away from the
18:05kids.
18:05Kayla, I'm stripping down.
18:07Please turn on the jets.
18:09And so we literally have a jacuzzi inside of our bathroom, so I thought it would be a
18:14nice little romantic, I don't know, for me and Jace to kind of be a little bit more
18:19emotionally connected.
18:21Hello?
18:22Jets?
18:24Whoa!
18:25Something's happening.
18:26Look, they're going.
18:30Got them going.
18:32Oh, that's nice, right?
18:41That thing's going crazy.
18:44I don't think they're supposed to do that.
18:46Are we okay?
18:47That's not right.
18:48I don't know what's wrong with those jets.
18:51They're, like, shooting up to heaven.
18:52Why is it doing that?
18:54We're both getting frustrated at this point.
18:56Clearly, our plans of trying to have a nice, romantic, intimate evening is not going to
19:03plan.
19:04Okay, well, now I'm wet.
19:07Underwhelming.
19:09Go take the outside hot tub.
19:11Oh, no, the bubbles are starting again.
19:14Is it warm?
19:15Not warm enough.
19:16I'm just so cold.
19:19Can we just go to bed?
19:22I'm over it.
19:24This isn't very romantic.
19:27Oh, God.
19:28I'm doomed.
19:29That really bothers me.
19:30What?
19:31You wanted a good hot tub moment?
19:33I really wanted a hot tub moment.
19:34We have a bath in our room.
19:36I'm tired.
19:37I just want to go to bed.
19:38I'm trying to make it more romantic and intimate, but I think the universe is trying to tell
19:44me that it's just, we're stepping into that too quick.
19:47For me, moving forward with sexual abuse, I feel like it's something that I need to have
19:51a lot of control over when it comes to how it goes, which I know is hard for him.
19:56And he has to let go of a lot of that control.
19:58Can we officially go to bed now?
20:00Yeah.
20:01She's just not ready to be vulnerable.
20:04And unfortunately, intimacy for me is really important in so much as that it's like a deal
20:11breaker.
20:12And so I don't know if we're going to be able to strengthen our relationship and overcome
20:16some of these obstacles that we've run into.
20:19This has been romantic, huh?
20:21Are you so glad I planned this?
20:42My ideal breakfast.
20:44Oh my gosh.
20:45Wait, these look amazing.
20:46I know, right?
20:48My roommate went missing this morning.
20:49We were supposed to wake up and go to the gym and I went, Dakota.
20:53And he was missing.
20:54I think he might have got kidnapped.
20:55This morning, I went to wake Dakota up and he's not in his room.
21:00So where does that mean he is?
21:08Speak of the devil.
21:09We were just talking about you.
21:10Sleep and beauty?
21:12Did you sleep well?
21:13Yeah.
21:13Well, what happened?
21:17She reached out.
21:20Because last I heard, we were supposed to go to the gym this morning and the next thing
21:23you know.
21:23No, yes, we had sex.
21:25Like, obviously.
21:26But I didn't, did I, did I text him?
21:30I can't remember.
21:31Did I?
21:35Okay, I know what I said now.
21:36I remember.
21:36Okay.
21:37Um.
21:38I said, are you all alone over there?
21:45Like, hey, if you're alone and scared, like, you can come in my room.
21:49Like, I felt bad.
21:50So I helped him.
21:52Poor thing.
21:53No, no.
21:53I just feel like our connection is always there and it always has been.
21:58I miss just being able to, uh, be there together with her.
22:02It's such a good feeling and it just feels right.
22:05Oh, my God.
22:17I would say good morning, but good afternoon.
22:19We heard you had a long night last night.
22:21Why?
22:22Long night?
22:24I thought it was pretty short.
22:25Oh, yeah.
22:26Taylor and Dakota had a little sleepover last night.
22:29And you know what happens at a sleepover?
22:31Not footsies, that's for sure.
22:32Taylor, I feel like I can't keep up with that girl.
22:35Um, this isn't about me.
22:36I'm coming to see, uh, how you are, Jen.
22:39It's been hell.
22:40I'm not gonna lie.
22:41You haven't heard anything, though, with Dancing with Stars?
22:43No.
22:44I've been on my dad's bed.
22:45But I'm here now.
22:47I'm gonna go run inside and start to get ready because we're leaving at 2.30.
22:50Oh, shit.
22:51Okay.
22:52And I'm not gonna have any time.
22:53So I love you.
22:54And I'm sad you're not making it tonight, but...
22:56Oh, you're not coming at all?
22:58I don't think so.
23:01Yeah, probably.
23:01You want me to go get you some tea or something?
23:03Yes, that'd be great.
23:04Do you miss that, though?
23:05Like, having someone to sleep with at night?
23:07Well, I usually have my kids in my bed, so...
23:10Oh, that's true.
23:10I don't, like, have that emptiness, but, yeah.
23:14There, don't.
23:15Hard times I do, I just want, like, someone there to, like, cuddle with.
23:18But, like, is that shocking?
23:20No.
23:20Did you expect this at all coming into Stagecoach?
23:25No, and I did not expect any of this.
23:27I did not expect to even, like, be nice to him.
23:31Obviously, I just found out that someone in my family has leukemia, and I'm just gonna live
23:37in the present moment.
23:37And if it's us getting along and flirting and being lovey, then so be it.
23:41I just give in, easily.
23:44But you guys get a tan out here.
23:46I'll come back through and say hi.
23:47Hey.
23:49Let me blow my nose.
23:50Will you go get me some tissue?
23:51Just use the towel, babe, honestly.
23:54Make that towel right there.
23:55You think so?
23:55Yeah.
23:57Okay.
24:04We'll have to burn this one.
24:05Okay, so Whitney is delayed, but coming as soon as possible.
24:30Really?
24:30Yeah, that's what it sounds like.
24:31We have to make it get ready with me, right?
24:33Fudge, dude.
24:34Okay, Jordan, come do this, because we got to get ready.
24:36Even though Jordan and Jesse are separated right now, he is kind of coming in handy.
24:40I can't deny it.
24:41He definitely makes for a good tripod still.
24:44I wish I could wink.
24:45I would wink at the end.
24:47I can't.
24:50Fucking kidding me?
24:51What?
24:52Whitney's story.
24:53She reposted Demi's story.
24:55I love you, Demi.
24:56So proud of you.
24:57The one shaming all of us.
24:59And all the internet thinks we're all victim shamers.
25:01Yeah, exactly.
25:02And now it's going to look like, oh, the reason Demi and Whitney are separated from the group
25:05is because all those girls, they're on their own women.
25:07They're so moral.
25:08They're so convenient.
25:09Yes.
25:10I'm over it.
25:11I, you don't have to get me on board.
25:13I'm already over it.
25:14She doesn't even know anything.
25:16Well, we don't have to be in her video at all.
25:17I don't know how to handle it with Whitney.
25:19Well, if she's coming here to make a video, let her make a video.
25:22Don't be in it.
25:22Don't say a word.
25:23Whitney's never come to the group and tried to understand our perspective on things.
25:27She has been fully teamed Demi without knowing all of the details.
25:30So to see her publicly endorsed Demi, calling us out for victim shaming her is really hurtful.
25:35I don't want to see her today because her intentions aren't good.
25:38This is a direct quote to us.
25:40And it's not okay.
25:41And then wait,
26:10what's the third one?
26:11No, it's.
26:12It's.
26:12It's.
26:12It's my shirt.
26:14Okay.
26:14Yeah.
26:15Yep.
26:15Yep.
26:15Okay, ready?
26:29Oh.
26:32Beautiful.
26:33This is so cool.
26:36Oh.
26:40Hey.
26:41Hey.
26:41What's going on, dude?
26:42She's here.
26:43She's here already.
26:45Should we go look around?
26:47Yeah.
26:47This is incredible.
26:49Whitney's repost is an insult to all of mom talk.
26:52Okay.
26:53Well, Taylor, it's your time to shine as our leader.
26:57I do feel like it's my responsibility to keep the peace in the group.
27:00I'm going to try using the tools that I learned in therapy to help me just be calm and hear
27:06her out.
27:07Are you guys staying?
27:08No, we're just here to make some content for a brand and then we're heading out.
27:11Fine.
27:12Yeah.
27:13Mama's got to work.
27:14Mama's got to pay those bills.
27:16Oh, I know.
27:18Good luck.
27:18I'm going to go take a shower.
27:20The vibes are off.
27:22I'll meet you up there.
27:23Oh, okay.
27:24After talking with Taylor, I thought we were good, but I could cut the tension with a knife
27:30right now in this room.
27:31Hey.
27:33You want to hear it again?
27:34Yeah.
27:35I'm just, I'm confused.
27:38Am I supposed to be here?
27:40Like, am I like welcome in this environment?
27:43Okay.
27:44Six, seven, eight, we go boom, boom.
27:47Honor.
27:47Hi, guys.
27:48How's it going, dude?
27:49How's it going, guys?
27:50Good, how are you?
27:50How are you doing, Taylor?
27:51Oh, my God.
27:53Thanks for matching.
27:54Whitney.
27:54How's it going?
27:55It's good.
27:55It's good.
27:56Good to see you.
27:57Yeah, I think so.
27:58How are you?
27:58Thank you, girl.
27:59I appreciate it.
28:00This is beautiful.
28:00Hi, how are you?
28:01This is breathtaking.
28:02So are you just here to like make the content for the band?
28:05Yeah.
28:05Okay.
28:06Well, I'll see you at Stagecoach, I'm sure.
28:08Yeah.
28:08I just know the girls are like very upset now.
28:11Why?
28:12Because of your repost.
28:13Oh, to me?
28:14Yeah, because I was like grouping them all in and they're not part of it.
28:18Like, I would never repost that about friends, you know, that aren't like supportive of
28:25that, especially those girls.
28:26They're the ones that have been sexually assaulted, like, as well.
28:29They're like really upset about it.
28:31I think it was more so like feeding into the narrative that wasn't true.
28:35They've never said that.
28:36Where?
28:37I think I've just been amped with what Demi's been telling me about how people have been
28:42treating her in the group.
28:43I just, those are serious things.
28:44Yeah.
28:45Especially for them.
28:46I agree.
28:46I think people making funny TikToks online and making it seem like Demi's lying about
28:51it is disgusting too.
28:52I think it's very interesting that she's speaking for the whole group.
28:55I think if they have something to say to me, they can say it to my face.
28:59Jen, Layla, Jessie, those women have participated in responding to comments, making videos.
29:09I don't see how this has anything to do with you.
29:13It may seem like you have not said anything that it's not true.
29:16Yeah.
29:16And you just group them in with that when they've said nothing on it.
29:19Yeah.
29:19I guess two sides of the same coin.
29:21Saying nothing is saying something.
29:24Me reposting that, I didn't even think I'm going to do this to bash on the mom talk woman.
29:29No.
29:29I think if anything, for me, I was happy for Demi because I know what it feels like for
29:34a narrative online to be completely construed because of a mass majority saying something
29:40about you.
29:41That's why I wanted to do that for her.
29:42Also, specifically in Demi's post, she's expressing about the women who are victim blaming
29:48her.
29:49If you're not doing that, why the fuck are you worried?
29:52We don't get to choose whether or not how somebody touched her, how that made her feel.
29:56We don't get to decide that.
29:58No.
29:58We don't.
29:59Okay, well, we know how she felt.
30:00I do because she told me she didn't feel uncomfortable, so I do know that she did not
30:03feel uncomfortable.
30:04But she told me that to my face.
30:05I don't remember her saying that.
30:07I have never tried to ruin someone's life because my mistakes is like, oh, I'm embarrassed.
30:11He sexually assaulted me.
30:13No.
30:13I would never do that to somebody ever in a million years.
30:16Okay?
30:16No, but you would go on the internet and say that we were all involved in a swinger scandal.
30:20I never said that.
30:20I said someone from MomTalk.
30:22The internet decided that.
30:23I never said that.
30:23Go watch the video.
30:24Go watch the video.
30:25You said MomTalk.
30:26Someone was from MomTalk.
30:27Miranda.
30:28So that's facts.
30:29You said someone was?
30:30In our swinging group.
30:31From what I remember, it doesn't matter what you remember because it's for me.
30:34It was my story.
30:36Do you think I forgot?
30:37Well, I watched it.
30:38Majority of MomTalk is not involved.
30:40Just to clear that up.
30:41Well, watch it again.
30:42I never said entire MomTalk.
30:43I said someone from MomTalk.
30:45That is facts.
30:45That's Miranda.
30:46Facts.
30:47Okay?
30:49I'd go watch it again.
30:50Weird that everyone would think that we were all involved then.
30:52Yeah.
30:53It's the internet.
30:53They did that.
30:54Not my fault that they decided to do that.
30:57I mean, we all kind of know that Whitney has this thing with, like, taking no accountability.
31:00Like, she's done nothing wrong.
31:03Conversations getting nowhere with you.
31:04Like, I'm trying.
31:06I'm the one trying to be a friend to you.
31:08You're making it really hard.
31:10I don't know why you're picking a fight with me right now.
31:11I'm not.
31:12Are you, like, trying to make me feel uncomfortable here?
31:14Are you feeling uncomfortable?
31:15Right now, I do.
31:16Why?
31:17I'm just here to make content for a brand.
31:19Well, I...
31:19Thank you for telling me that.
31:20I had no idea they felt that way.
31:22Like...
31:22Why wouldn't they?
31:23They can tell me then.
31:25Okay, well, then maybe they will.
31:25Like, I have feelings with how every single person's been treating Demi.
31:29Well, I found out you're...
31:30Like, no one wants to come out because they saw that.
31:32And that's okay.
31:33I'll do this and I'll leave.
31:35I'm totally fine with that.
31:36I'm so exhausted.
31:38Because it seems like I am held to the highest pedestal on planet Earth.
31:43This isn't a sisterhood.
31:44It's clear that you're not my friend.
31:46I'm moving on.
31:55Did it end okay or was it just like...
31:59She's like, well, I'll just make my content and I'll go.
32:01Good, go.
32:03Yeah, do that.
32:04Guys, we gotta go.
32:05We cannot let Whitney take over today.
32:07Let's go have fun at stagecoach.
32:08Business is over.
32:10Let's go have fun.
32:11Business is over.
32:12It just sucks because Whitney did get voted back in.
32:15So, technically, she is in MomTalk.
32:18And now we're stuck with each other.
32:20Why do I never have time to get ready?
32:22Always look so ugly because I don't have time to get ready.
32:24And all the girls, like, literally look like princesses.
32:27You look beautiful.
32:28What are you talking about?
32:28No, but they look like freaking goddess.
32:30You look like a goddess.
32:32They just look so good.
32:33Taylor, what are you talking about?
32:35You look so pretty.
32:36Trust me.
32:37Wait, what is this?
32:38Is this a hickey in you?
32:39Wait, really?
32:41Wait, is that from you?
32:43Oh, my gosh.
32:44You have a fight.
32:44Who else would it be from?
32:45I don't remember even kissing you, really, on your neck like that.
32:49Yeah, right.
32:50I don't.
32:51Let's do a toast.
32:52Jace, do you want another shot?
32:54Water.
32:55All right.
32:56Damn, Jace.
32:57Jace, I knew you were chill vibes.
33:00I am so shocked that Jace is just down to rip shots right now.
33:03I've never seen this side of him ever.
33:05But I think he deserves it.
33:06He's got three kids.
33:07He's a stay-at-home dad.
33:08He's got a lot of stress on his plate.
33:10And I'm excited to have some drinking buddies this weekend because I need to just unwind,
33:15let loose, and get my mind to stop racing.
33:17Cheers!
33:17Hey, we're leaving.
33:24Honey, let's go.
33:26You're being so annoying.
33:28Why am I being annoying?
33:29I am a little bit upset with Jace because he's kind of being cold to me.
33:34And then he's having shots.
33:35He's having fun with the group.
33:37I feel like it kind of put me in a bad mood.
33:39Why do you think you're going to have fun now without me?
33:41Do it, do it!
33:43You thought I would?
33:43Do a little bit.
33:44I did, thank you.
33:44Just a little bit.
33:45Just a taste.
33:45Just a taste.
33:46Just a snap.
33:46Just a taste.
33:47I was shocked that Jace took one.
33:49Jace took two.
33:50You took two?
33:50Yeah.
33:51You're a bad influence on...
33:53I didn't do shit.
33:54I didn't ask him to.
33:55Look what you're doing to me.
33:57I need more energy.
33:58Yeah, more energy.
33:59I know you're sick.
34:00But suck it up.
34:02Ready?
34:02Ready?
34:05Whoa!
34:06Whoa, whoa, whoa.
34:07Jace.
34:08Jace, you're fucked up, bro!
34:09Jace, you're fucked up, bro!
34:13That is hilarious!
34:17Put me in!
34:18Put me in!
34:27She's on it!
34:28She's on it!
34:28Yeah!
34:31Nice!
34:31Yeah!
34:33Hell no!
34:35Oh, my God!
34:38Here we go!
34:39Everyone is having such a good time and getting along.
34:42It's feeling like old times.
34:44But seeing Taylor bumping and grinding with Dakota,
34:48like, I really think that I can throw up.
34:51Excuse me.
34:52I might get it back so I can see you.
34:55We're here!
34:56Okay, so now do we have to walk eight miles?
34:57Yeah!
34:58Yeah!
35:15Ass out!
35:16Ass out more, Miranda!
35:18thank you for sharing your story about like your skin stuff i'm going to do stuff right now nice
35:23to meet you you guys look amazing oh thanks you too have a good day
35:29that's pretty cool honey you're mad at me i don't want to talk to you right now actually
35:37are you serious i am being serious why where are we going do we know what stage we're going
35:43so you just want me to not talk to you all night that's what you've been doing anyways oh god
35:51wait what did you say he was annoying me
35:56there is some tension between maquila and jace right now and i don't know exactly what is going on
36:01but i actually haven't ever seen them fight or really argue but what i do know is that she tends
36:06to kind of shut down and doesn't want to talk about it and i think he's the opposite and wants
36:10to figure it out and work it out i love you it's all in my heart i know i want to show you though
36:19so taylor and the code are like all over each other so weird gross why are they all over each
36:24other i don't know aren't they broken up why are they hugging and all over each other i'm going to
36:28take a picture i'm going to send it to perez helton
36:31you know they can hear you i'm sending it to tmc what i'm not sending anything to tmc but i'm
36:41getting a cute picture that's cute it's been almost three years of me trying to get taylor away from
36:50dakota it is frustrating for me but i'm exhausted at this point there's only so much i can do taylor's
36:55a big girl and she has to make all of her own decisions do you guys want them to continue to
36:59do this whole around off thing or do you want them to at least try to be healthy if they're going to
37:05continue they've been trying to be healthy for the last three years yes they have koda hasn't
37:10neither she i want them to be healthy co-parents there we go yeah because we know long-term they
37:17cannot be together will never work okay we're ready mommy and daddy are here yeah let's go wait we're
37:23leaving oh wait where's james i want to be as supportive as i need to be but we've been at this
37:29for years with her not working on things this weight on my shoulders is too much to bear as sad as that
37:39is to say maybe we do need to separate for a time it feels like we're strangers i just i'm honestly
37:47at the breaking point so where do we go where do we go from here
37:55like whoa i was on the road trying to find my way back home texting my ex faded on my phone
38:03where you want to go all night okay good night stinky butt wait what are you going to bed good night
38:09uh wait why are you going to bed i mean brookers tired what the hell good night guys
38:25i don't know if that's the case i don't know if it's makeup sex because i think that
38:44uh they were i don't know jace is like kind of pow i don't think it's like good like i think it's
38:49probably arguing i think mikayla is like not in a happy mood because of it when i think about it
38:53you're inviting all these men and so i mean i'm not shocked it's bound for either a fun time a
38:59dramatic time or chaos go check and see what's going on yeah wait i'm scared to look
39:09hello hello can we come in i'm scared i don't want to see anything nasty you think they're doing nasty
39:18mikaela oh my gosh why did you respond you wiener because i'm in the shower i thought i was gonna
39:26freaking see something in bed i'm in a bed after jace and i got back we got into a little bit of an
39:32argument in the shower and it kind of led to the deeper rooted issues in our marriage of being
39:37emotionally connected and then we got in a fight about having to schedule couples therapy again and
39:42not being on the same page so yeah you want to have a chat about what just lie if we can go to
39:51the fire pit just live have we used the fire pit yet no no but we do want to get outside so we just
39:56want to come see if you want to hang out change the environment i feel like we haven't get out of your
40:00spooky room are we gonna go out that way yeah i don't know it seems like it's tough to like not be
40:07on great terms when you're like doing this with like mom talking all the girls so i feel for you
40:12thank you it was interesting we just wanted to check on you because yeah obviously jace seems really
40:19sad and then you seem kind of sad so we just want to make sure you're getting good we're just like
40:23never in sync it's just hard right now to be intimate yeah well it's been hard like the last
40:29couple years but i feel like it's been getting like especially hard just like the more busy we get
40:34i'm just so tired i feel like i'm fighting about it or like yeah well it's okay you know
40:49i just feel like it's getting harder
40:53i feel a lot of pressure and guilt around my marriage and our sex life right now because
41:01i feel like i have a lot of broken pieces that i haven't fixed yet even though i know that it
41:06comes from the abuse and the way i was raised i think growing up in the church i'm always trying
41:12to chase this idea of being a perfect wife or being perfect for him or yeah it just never feels attainable
41:20good good have you talked to michaela jace tonight at all yeah i did oh you did did it go there no
41:27i had an argument in the room it makes me so sad to see you guys like this because like in my eyes
41:33you're like one of the most inspiring couples i was telling dakota like i was like he truly like
41:40loves her so much you don't want to do couple therapy as a couple i think it'd be helpful to do
41:46it but i feel like it comes with like a lot of emotions but he's like it's one of those things
41:51where you almost have to go through it to get out of it because it never it's never going to go away
41:56yeah it just it'll stay there even if you don't think it is it just sits there and lingers until
42:01you realize it actually affects you more than you know obviously if you don't ever want to look at it
42:05i'm not that's your life and don't blame you but if you don't do that it's like do you overcome
42:11what you're struggling with now with him you know i'm saying like and maybe that's his fear after
42:15talking to the girls i feel like there's something really freeing about expressing these emotions
42:19that i've held in for so long i think just opening up about it motivates me to go to therapy
42:25and work on all of this and make sure that my marriage is in a good place there's so much going
42:29on in our life with mom talk and like big opportunities coming up but i know that i have
42:34a lot to work on behind the scenes
42:44i could imagine a house like the one we own
42:50i saw my tears that took my words with the tightness we thought that she's always been
43:06hi good morning good morning you're up early what are you doing just chilling yeah just chilling
43:13how are you feeling after last night some space and time will do mikhail a lot of good i was actually
43:20talking to dakota about it because that was like our first time like ever seeing you guys like even
43:25have like whatever it was a miscommunication and i was like i know she loves him more than anything
43:29and she'll like do anything for me but also sometimes i'm like we struggle too yeah and a lot
43:35of times she just likes to bottle things up she doesn't feel quite comfortable to tell me certain things
43:41yet yeah because i told her the only way to get through this like trauma of hers is to go through
43:46it that's it it's always going to be there i know that mikhaila is going to take time to get there
43:52but sometimes it is like maybe a little bit of jealousy there where i see you and dakota have like
43:59this great sexual chemistry right yeah and so i'm like i do long for that in mikhaila and i's
44:04relationship and i think that we can get there too and it's just going to take me being patient
44:08patience will pay off yeah everything you guys have over just like freaking the sex life i like
44:14long for that plus like a good relationship always looking at what you don't have yeah you guys will
44:22get there it's just going to take time yeah i love mikhaila and jace's relationship because for me i see
44:29two people that love each other that i've been through a lot and that are still here trying today
44:34i just hope jace is willing to wait and like be patient with her but i know it's got to be really
44:38hard what was going on with dakota were you just feeling in a good mood in a good place or what
44:43i'm always hoping and i just i think i i hold on to hope so we'll see i do feel that dakota's trying
44:51he has so much hope he's wanting this to go back to normal as soon as possible dakota and i if we could
44:57like get past our own wounds and traumas we would thrive as a couple i think it's time for us to give it a
45:02shot i honestly do i think we could should we go see if anyone's up yeah i better check on mikhaila
45:08see if she's up she needs her morning massage goodbye travel safe bye guys see you later
45:19that angle is terrible do you mean to do it no it's fine after stagecoach things with jordan and
45:37i are a little better than they've been he was really there for me when i was going through some
45:41hard times on the trip and while we were out there i saw that mikhaila and jace have been having some
45:46struggles taylor and dakota are up and down like always and i don't know it just makes me realize
45:52that no relationship's perfect though we still have a lot to work on but i do feel a little more
45:56hopeful because i am seeing patterns and behaviors that i needed to see before okay so are taylor and
46:02dakota back together at stagecoach they were all over each other we only see the down usually so whoa
46:07they actually do have fun together they love each other it's not taylor's taylor's always gonna have a
46:12really deep place in her heart for him and vice versa i think he's just really struggling with
46:20it all you know like what do you mean well there is more
46:26like i'm not trying to snitch more about what i think by sharing dakota's secret with jesse i'm hoping
46:34that jesse can see that she can still trust me and we're going to move forward i think it's super
46:39important that i'd be honest during one of the times they were broken up leanne's friend reached
46:45out to him and was just like checking in on him you know he felt like it was a safe place and she
46:52started like hitting on him and it kind of turned sexual like he gave into it for a minute
46:59from what he told me was is that like she started like kind of coming on to him and like
47:04like fed into it and then when it was time to like actually hang out like he's like i shut it down
47:10i feel sick to my stomach right now knowing this secret about dakota because i can relate in so many
47:15different ways so i really feel for taylor but i do feel for dakota in the sense that i know he's
47:20probably beating himself up and shame is a really hard emotion to work through especially when trying
47:25to work through it in a relationship wait which friend of leanne's like who was it
47:28oh my god that is so bad it doesn't matter if you've been broken up or not that's like taylor's
47:36family like that's a big deal you're kidding no if i see her i can't not say something um
47:50how are you feeling about the reunion i don't know what to think like the demi i know wouldn't do that
47:56it's no different than swallowing that's how i talk to all of my friends i thought about that
48:02i love you last night this needs to come out there's just no way taylor can't hear about this
48:07obviously i want to be with taylor i yearn for that you're coming out with another lie i'm sure
48:12you had sex with someone so who is it we are all supposed to put on a happy face promote the new
48:18season of our show i was either sexually assaulted or i wasn't but i feel like a storm's coming
48:26she's just a cowgirl she's gonna keep it like that she'll turn the heat up if you're ever holding her
48:38back she's just a cowgirl she's gonna keep it like that she'll turn the heat up if you're ever holding her back
48:56you
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