American Monster - Season 13 Episode 08- My Brother's Keeper
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00:00Tymere was the type of person that you could always depend on.
00:05Long as the people around him were sitting care of, that's all he cared about.
00:10Tymere and Rodney was like total opposites.
00:14Everything with Rodney was a joke. He never really took nothing real serious.
00:18Tymere always tried to just play the big brother role to Rodney.
00:23Rodney, he embraced that street life.
00:26I'm under arrest? Yes, I'm what?
00:28Rodney didn't care about nobody but Rodney.
00:31At the end of the day, my heart was shattered in a million pieces.
00:40He was begging for his life and his mother was begging for his life.
00:43He killed my baby.
00:45You can't get any more cold hearted than that.
00:47That is truly an evil person.
00:58It's summer 2021 and brothers Tymere and Rodney enjoy a day out with their family, making social media videos at a water park.
01:15I have seven children. Me and my kids did everything together.
01:18Tymere was three years older than Rodney.
01:21For the most part, they got along.
01:23But they was the typical brothers.
01:25Tymere always been like the clown, like he always been funny.
01:30Why you got the hat on? Because it's green?
01:35Tymere would make you laugh and smile all the time.
01:39Rodney, I call him like the aggravator. He just like to mess with people.
01:46I mean, we was a big family, so it was always fun.
01:57Tymere Dial-Hale is born on January 2000, but his parents separate soon after his birth.
02:03Shortly after the pregnancy, we kind of broke up and we never got back together.
02:09We just raised Tymere together.
02:11Tymere was a happy-go-lucky little baby.
02:15Like, it was a joy to have.
02:19Everybody in my family loved Tymere.
02:22He was a mama's boy. He was sweet.
02:26My fifth child, Rodney, was born November the 8th of 2003.
02:31I don't think it made a difference that they did not have the same father,
02:35because I feel like my kids grew up knowing they had the same mother.
02:40The boys fought.
02:42My house was always loud, because I had more boys than girls.
02:46They argued, they disagreed, and then they was right back playing together.
02:51I feel like they was normal kids and they loved each other, but of course they had disagreements.
02:57Tymere's a good brother. He was a really good brother.
03:00Like, he wanted us to do the right thing and stay on the right path and just be like our best selves.
03:09He was my little brother, but he was like a big brother.
03:12He always been a protector.
03:15When Tymere is 12 and Rodney is 8, their family gets even bigger when Pinky gives birth to her seventh child, Jeremiah.
03:26When I got pregnant with Jeremiah, I think everybody was upset.
03:30I think everybody was like, we don't want no more kids here.
03:34But as Tymere and Rodney become teenagers, their lives start to go in very different directions.
03:50Rodney was always wanting to be tough.
03:55Tymere and Rodney was like total opposites.
03:59Tymere learned at a young age that you got to hustle to get money.
04:04He would shovel snow.
04:06He would cut grass.
04:08He never tried to go down the street life road.
04:12But for Rodney, he embraced that street life, the street culture.
04:17That was what he wanted for itself.
04:22Tymere always talked to me about how he would talk to Rodney and try to get him to turn this life around.
04:31And he like pops, he just ain't listening to me.
04:34I'm like, ain't nothing you could do.
04:37Tymere always tried to talk to Rodney about doing the right things.
04:43But it went in one ear and out the other.
04:49Once he got out of high school, he was determined.
04:52And he would tell me every day, Mom, I'm doing this for you.
04:55You want me to have a diploma? I'm going to get it.
05:00I was extremely happy when Tymere graduated from high school.
05:04Rodney didn't really start misbehaving to maybe about fourth, fifth grade.
05:09He didn't want to be in school.
05:11And he was very disrespectful to teachers.
05:13And by 12th grade, he just completely dropped out.
05:16It was hard raising teenage boys all together.
05:20But Rodney was definitely the one that gave me the most problems.
05:28As siblings growing up, when Rodney was at home, he was a normal person.
05:32We were all seen together.
05:35I think Rodney put on a persona for the streets.
05:38It's me, Rodney, and my friend.
05:41This was around the time me and Rodney spent a good amount of time together.
05:45We used to go to the rec after school sometime and just be kids.
05:50I love that video.
05:53It's me, Rodney, and Rodney in that video.
05:56It was like a little TikTok trend.
05:59It was funny.
06:01That's another TikTok of me and Rodney comparing our features.
06:06I had to force him to do it because people always said that we looked alike a lot.
06:11I don't really think Rodney had, like, any long-term goals.
06:16I think he just lived day by day.
06:20Rodney couldn't keep a job because Rodney had did so much bad things in the streets.
06:28Rodney would shoot at people and people would shoot at Rodney.
06:33Rodney was scared to go certain places because of who he might run into.
06:42Tymere worked with me at the Market Hall.
06:45We were cleaning the building.
06:47But when Tymere came, he made it fun.
06:49He would laugh.
06:50He would be the highlight of everybody's day.
06:52Tymere was watching my kids that day, and I came back early, and they was under the
07:08cover.
07:09He was telling them a story.
07:10Once upon a time, there was this thing called a story.
07:15And back in the day, people told the stories.
07:17You know what I'm saying?
07:18Yeah.
07:19And I just started recording because I thought it was so cute.
07:24He was a real present uncle.
07:28Tymere's first impression was always good.
07:31Even when my friends met him, they would just be like,
07:34Yo, brother's so nice.
07:35He's so sweet.
07:36He was kind of flirtatious too.
07:42When me and Tymere first started chatting, it was through Instagram.
07:48Tymere just started putting hard eyes on my pictures, telling me how beautiful I look,
07:54and stuff like that.
07:56And the messages.
07:57He was like, you're cute.
07:58And I'm like, you're cute.
07:59And I'm just like, let's be cute together.
08:02We went on our first date in December of 2020.
08:06We went bowling.
08:07My first impression of Tymere was that he was really down to earth, like a very caring man.
08:14Tymere described Rodney as his younger, annoying brother that he loved.
08:19He would do anything for Rodney.
08:22The first time that I got on the phone with Tymere, Rodney came into the room.
08:28He pretty much did say, shut up, bitch, pretty much.
08:32And I was just like, who are you talking to?
08:34I don't have to shut up.
08:36And Rodney told me, I will be the **** without you.
08:40Rodney was definitely one of them boys that I would say I stayed away from.
08:46Rodney loved guns.
08:48He made it very clear that that was the life that he lived and the life that he loved to live.
08:54You never know what a person could do.
08:57As he had gotten older, he was not a person you would really want to be around.
09:03Rodney didn't care about nobody but Rodney.
09:07I think the whole family felt as if Rodney did have a problem.
09:12I believe that if you mix with the wrong people, bad things are going to happen.
09:24I'm looking at you.
09:32Tymere was working at a cleaning job at the Market Hall, Sugar Heights, Ohio.
09:42I ended up going to his house and meeting his mom and his family.
09:47And then we were inseparable.
09:50When Tymere first met Nina, it was fast.
09:53And she instantly moved in with us.
10:00Nina became a part of our family.
10:02I grew to love her like a sister.
10:04Me and Tymere, when we met, we started talking about kids roughly like six months in.
10:11It was fast paced.
10:12We having a baby!
10:14We having a **** baby!
10:17When Tymere found out I was pregnant, he was ecstatic.
10:20I think it's my name real quick.
10:22What's up, Daddy Chicken Dumpling?
10:26He was phenomenal throughout the pregnancy.
10:29Tymere never missed a beat when it came to our child, ever.
10:35He swore it was a boy.
10:37I knew it wasn't no boy.
10:39And I looked at him and said, you're going to cry when it's a girl.
10:43It's fall of 2021.
10:45And 21-year-old Tymere and 19-year-old Nina throw a gender reveal party for their family and friends.
10:52We all just came out to see what he was having.
10:56And he was determined to make sure that a truck had whatever color powder come out.
11:02Five, four, three, two, one.
11:07One!
11:08Ah!
11:09Ah!
11:10Oh my God!
11:11Ah!
11:12Ah!
11:13Ah!
11:14When the pink smoke came out, Tymere was mad.
11:19Ah!
11:20Ah!
11:21Ah!
11:22Ah!
11:23Ah!
11:24Ah!
11:25Ah!
11:26Ah!
11:27Ah!
11:28Ah!
11:29Ah!
11:30Ah!
11:31Ah!
11:32Ah!
11:33Ah!
11:34Oh, alright.
11:35Ah!
11:36Ow!
11:37Ah!
11:38Ah!
11:39Ah!
11:41Ah!
11:42Ah!
11:43Ah!
11:44Ah!
11:46Ah!
11:51Ah!
11:57Ah!
11:58years of age, Rodney is also about to become a father. Rodney wasn't as excited as Tamir was
12:05to become a father. Rodney was just, oh, it is what it is. She's pregnant, you know. Rodney's
12:11son's mother, they wasn't in a relationship. I think Rodney probably wasn't as excited because
12:17Rodney didn't have anything. He didn't have a job. I don't think Rodney was prepared to care for a
12:22child. Rodney was the type of person to get angry very quickly. You say one little thing to him and
12:32he's going from zero to 100 in a second. When I was pregnant, Jeremiah and Rodney were having a
12:42disagreement. And Jeremiah was so much younger than him. So I intervened and I did tell Rodney to stop,
12:50that's your little brother. Rodney did not like that. Rodney got on my face, threatening me,
12:56screaming in my face. I was fearful of him because for one, he's a man and I'm pregnant.
13:04And for two, the aggression, the look in his eyes, he's angry. I think Tamir and him, they were cool
13:09after it. You know, they're brothers. I would never try to get between brothers. I didn't talk to Rodney
13:14for a couple months. Me and Tamir decided that we wanted to move into our own apartment because,
13:19you know, it was time we started our own family, began our own life.
13:26Me and Tamir moved into my apartment October 15, 2021.
13:33I went into labor when Alani, February 15th. Tamir was just there the whole time, rubbing my back,
13:40talking me through it. Did end up doing emergency C-section. He was there through it all.
13:45Tamir was the first person to hold her.
13:49Say cheese.
13:50Cheese.
13:51Cheers.
13:52First time that I seen Tamir really cradle Alani and really get in father mode, it warmed my heart.
14:01He did most of the nurturing. He did the most of the getting up in the middle of the night,
14:07always made the bottles, changed the diapers, because he knew that I was healing.
14:13Look, right here. I'm your daddy. Yeah.
14:19Alani loved her dad. He was a wonderful, wonderful father.
14:25You should have seen him with her. He was amazing.
14:43Rodney's day would consist of sleeping the majority of the day and then going outside.
14:47So when you got your child, you can't just sleep all day and then go outside.
14:53I just don't believe Rodney was ready for a child.
14:56Sometimes I would be like, you know, get him. But he would get his son and be so frustrated.
15:01He didn't care what I said. He was running with the wrong people.
15:10It's March 2022. Tamir and Rodney's younger brothers are driving through the city at night.
15:17Tamir's younger siblings, Rondell and Jeremiah, were all in a car together with Rodney's girlfriend.
15:25And the car was shot up.
15:29I looked back to check on Jeremiah. I said, Jeremiah, are you OK?
15:34But when I looked back, he was laying on the floor and he had blood on the back of his head.
15:40At that point, I knew he was hurt, but I just didn't know where.
15:44So I called.
15:45I went on and they came fast, not even two minutes fast.
15:50It was like five cop cars and an ambulance.
15:53They pulled him out the car, laid him on the ground, cut his clothes off.
15:59Jeremiah was shot. He was struck in his chest and twice in his legs. And he was grazed three times.
16:10Jeremiah should have never had to experience nothing like that.
16:12I believe that they thought that Rodney was in that car. And I believe that they maybe had a run in prior to that. And that was the outcome of it.
16:23Jeremiah was 10 years old when he was shot. He was in the hospital for a week.
16:26But he was OK. He didn't suffer any major damage.
16:31Timer was really hurt by it. And Rodney was really hurt by it because Rodney felt like it was for him.
16:39He kept saying that he wished he'd have been in the car. We always told Rodney, you need to put the gun down. You need to do something better with your life.
16:49Timer definitely expressed to Rodney, how he felt that he should try to change his life. But Rodney just didn't want to hear it.
17:02Rodney was disrespectful. He didn't care what I said. No matter how much I chased him, no matter how much he did not care at all.
17:11I feel as if Rodney was consistently putting his whole family in danger. Rodney was a ticking time bomb, waiting to go off.
17:19As he got older, Rodney did become more violent.
17:38I don't know what it was that made him become that way.
17:43An image he had to portray or if it was just really who he was.
17:47I do think that at some times Rodney did think that Timer was my favorite child.
17:56It's not that Timer was my favorite or that I loved him more, but he was a little bit more responsible.
18:01Me and Rodney got into it at my mother's house.
18:10It started over something petty.
18:12And he said that he was going to go put his gun up and come back downstairs and hit me.
18:18And that's what happened.
18:21He came downstairs and he hit me, so I hit him back.
18:28I remember the police pulling up and they arrested both of us and we both was in jail together.
18:34When I found out that Rodney did put his hands on Yana and they were both in jail, I knew then that he didn't care about anything.
18:48I knew then that he could harm someone.
18:52I stayed away from Rodney for the most part for a couple months.
18:57I just felt like I didn't want me or my baby around that.
19:02But Timer is busy focusing on his career and providing for his family.
19:08Timer started working security at a school, at a charter school.
19:11He would come home every day with a story and he would just be so excited about how he impacted some child's life.
19:22He was a security officer at the school with me.
19:28He was a natural.
19:30Like the kids loved him.
19:32They really, truly loved Timer.
19:35I believe that Rodney had some type of jealousy or envy.
19:39Rodney, I believe he was probably jealous of Timer his whole life.
19:45Rodney got in a lot of trouble.
19:47But it's hard to just say, oh, I give up on my child because he is my child.
19:51I guess I was just being a mother and thought that that was the right thing to do to just still love him regardless.
19:57I think Rodney wanted my attention so he would get it anyway, even if it was in a negative way.
20:02In July 2023, Wycliffe Police Department received another 911 call about Rodney.
20:11911, what's your emergency?
20:13Hi, my daughter is at the Green Ridge Hotel and her ex-boyfriend showed up and he has a gun on him.
20:23He shot her car up recently.
20:28What is his name?
20:29His name is Rodney Curley.
20:31He's just harassing her.
20:33So she said that he has his gun and he showed it to her?
20:36Yes.
20:37Rodney called me and asked me to come pick him up from a hotel.
20:43Once I got close to the hotel, I seen a bunch of police cars.
20:48And from what they said, he beat her up in the hotel room.
20:53Somebody called the police and said he had the gun.
20:57Stop barking.
20:58Turn around and face away from me.
20:59Turn around and face away from me.
21:01Oh, that's cool.
21:02Bring your money back.
21:04Bring your money back.
21:05Come on.
21:05Don't.
21:07So the police stopped him and he didn't have the gun on him.
21:11But they took him to jail because she had a knot on her head.
21:15She was pregnant with his second child.
21:17You can sit back down first.
21:19You're going to sit back down.
21:20You can see me through the window.
21:21I want to stand right here.
21:23Okay.
21:23If you're not going to comply, we'll charge you with obstructing too.
21:26I'm giving you a lawful order.
21:27You're under arrest.
21:28You're going to sit back in the car.
21:30I'm under arrest?
21:31Yes, sir.
21:31Put your feet back in the car.
21:32So what though?
21:33Assault.
21:34Assault on who?
21:35It's really sickening to me that any man could be violent to a woman.
21:45He was arrested.
21:46Rodney went to jail for about two days and he was put on probation.
21:49For Rodney to actually put his hands on a woman that is carrying a child, his child at that was mind-boggling.
22:00That's when I did start to see that Rodney was spiraling.
22:04I started to see Rodney being more angrier, evil, mean.
22:10I think Tymira gave up on trying to tell Rodney to be different.
22:17I thought if I move out of the neighborhood, I could keep him from trouble.
22:23Getting a new house, it's starting over.
22:25It was hard finding a house because of Rodney.
22:28Rodney, because it was like everywhere that I looked for a house, Rodney would say, I can't live there.
22:34So Rodney said he had ops.
22:36That means he has enemies.
22:38After like maybe a couple of months of searching for a house, I'm at the point where I'm like, we're going to be homeless in a minute if I keep on turning down houses.
22:46So I just decided to take the house.
22:47Moving day arrives for Pinky and her family.
22:55Tymira left for work.
22:57So we started back in the U-Haul.
22:59But to me, Rodney was like a little off.
23:02He would see a car and he would be like, who is that?
23:04You know, every time.
23:05So he was a little jumpy.
23:06Probably about 3.30, 4 o'clock, I dropped Rodney off at the old house.
23:13When I got back to the old house, Tymira and Nina was pulling up.
23:17She said she had to work.
23:19And I'm like, I'll take the baby.
23:22When I got to the new house, Tymira came with the air conditioner.
23:25It was fairly hot.
23:26Tymira said, I'm going to take this air conditioner upstairs.
23:29And Rodney says, don't take all that stuff upstairs.
23:32You're wasting our time.
23:33And Tymira was like, stop talking to me.
23:35He went upstairs.
23:36They go back outside and they're in the U-Haul.
23:39But now they're arguing like, like really arguing.
23:439-1-1, do you need police ambulance or fire?
23:53This is my car!
23:55It's no record!
23:579-1-1, do you need police ambulance or fire?
24:00He said, oh my God!
24:13He said, hello?
24:16A boy just shot a boy right here on our street.
24:19And the boy is on the ground.
24:20Where's the person who shot him?
24:22He's gone.
24:23He's a brain.
24:23The 9-1-1 call came in on October 3rd, 2023 at 6.51 p.m.
24:36There's a lot of chaos going on.
24:39There's screaming, there's crying, there's yelling.
24:42We learned that a boy shot another boy.
24:46Come here right now!
24:47Come here right now!
24:49He shot over here first!
24:50The victim was in dire straits.
25:02They had recognized multiple gunshot wounds.
25:07He was not conscious.
25:09Michael, can you start getting info on the witnesses real quick?
25:15The first person the officer encountered is the victim's mother.
25:19The first thing that she conveyed to that officer was that one of her sons had just shot her other son in front of her.
25:28Here's your son.
25:29The killer is my son, too.
25:31Okay.
25:31Yes.
25:32He shot him face to face, like, up close.
25:34Right.
25:34He jumped up in.
25:35And then he ran up to you all and stood over him and shot him.
25:41So I see the blood.
25:42Yeah.
25:42They're arguing here, she said.
25:45They're arguing, he says, you're a bitch without your gun.
25:48The victim's got that.
25:49Yeah, he said, I'll pop your ass right now.
25:52Shot him.
25:54Yeah, brothers.
25:55Really?
25:56Yeah.
25:56What's the suspect's name when she gave him?
25:57I think Curley.
25:58We learned that the suspect in this case was 19 years old, that our victim's name was Tamir Dial-Hale, and that he was 23 years old.
26:09When I got the call from my mom, and she was screaming on the phone, saying, Rodney killed Tamir.
26:14And when I got there, Tamir was laying on the ground in the neighbor's front yard.
26:20As Tamir is rushed to University Hospital, family members arrive at the scene.
26:28I'm down there.
26:29That's my other daughter right there.
26:31I just want to see him.
26:32He's gone.
26:33He took us.
26:34Oh, my God.
26:37Hey, son, I'm shot.
26:38When Piggy called me, everything just started going like fireworks in my brain.
26:44Is my baby father alive?
26:47Did he kill his brother in front of my child?
26:51Did he harm my child?
26:52Where is she?
26:53She's down there on the other side of the crime.
26:55What people got here?
26:57Where?
26:58Who has her?
26:59My daughter was with some woman that lived on the same street.
27:05They had said Tamir had a pause.
27:07So we were all hopeful, you know.
27:11I was just praying.
27:13When I get there yelling at the police, like, where's my son?
27:18Where's my son?
27:19The police was like, we took him to University Hospital.
27:25I jumped back in the car and I sped off.
27:30I just remember falling on my knees praying to God.
27:34Then we got the call that he was gone.
27:43He wanted a good one.
27:44Why would you take him?
27:46I wasn't ready.
27:50I was shocked.
27:51I couldn't believe that Rodney was the person who took him.
27:57Unfortunately, Tamir was declared deceased at 7.43 p.m.
28:03And almost immediately after that declaration, the page goes out for the homicide unit to respond.
28:11When the homicide unit arrived, we do a walkthrough through the crime scene.
28:17We discovered that there was a shell casing inside the moving van, and there was multiple shell casings outside, along with a blood trail that led from the moving van to the final resting place of Tamir.
28:35Police speak to Pinky to find out what actually happened.
28:45It's like one son killed my other son in the fight.
28:48I don't even, I don't even know what you think.
28:51I don't even know, but to be honest with you, I don't know what to do.
28:53It was unbelievable.
28:55I'm standing right next to Tamir, and Rodney says, I don't fight, I shoot.
29:03So I'm like, come on, y'all, like, I just got this house yesterday.
29:06I don't want y'all arguing, being the drama.
29:08We ain't even in the house yet.
29:09So the baby came out the door.
29:11She was standing there.
29:12He said, I swear on your daughter, I'll kill you.
29:15He just pulled a gun out and shot him.
29:20He shot him in his shoulder.
29:21It was unbelievable.
29:23Tamir's face went from, I don't think he would shoot me, to, I can't believe he shot me.
29:30Now, Nalani is screaming, and Tamir turns to jump off the U-Haul.
29:38So I go to try to, like, grab Rodney, but he jumped too.
29:43But as he's jumping, he shot three times.
29:46When I finally did see Tamir, he was laying on his back in the grass, and he would just
29:56kept saying, OK, OK, bruh, basically begging for his life.
30:00And Rodney shot him.
30:01And now, my mind is telling me to grab Rodney, but then my body was, like, running towards
30:11Tamir.
30:16Tamir flipped his body over.
30:19So now, he's laying on his stomach.
30:24And he shot him three more times.
30:28Rodney turned, like, to me, and I ran around the other side of the U-Haul because I felt
30:34like he would shoot me.
30:35He was running down the street, and I laid on the ground next to Tamir, and he died in
30:43my face.
30:47We learned that the victim's one-year-old daughter was on scene and present during this incident,
30:53which just adds to the tragic nature of this case.
30:58We all have families.
31:00We all have kids.
31:01I have four kids and seven grandkids.
31:02And you immediately start thinking.
31:14You think about your family.
31:18He killed my baby.
31:26He didn't have to kill him, though.
31:28You didn't have to kill him.
31:29This family has seen a lot of tragedy at the hands of this individual.
31:35It was imperative that we got him in custody as quickly and as safely as possible.
31:40So the key now is that we need to talk to him, right?
31:43Find him.
31:44Yeah.
31:45And make everything safe.
31:48As safe as we can.
31:49Do you have any idea where he might be?
31:50Rodney, she was able to give us a couple of locations where Rodney may have fled to.
31:57She didn't know the address, but she provided a screenshot of a map that may be the location
32:05or the area that he fled to.
32:07That information was immediately disseminated to the officers out on the street.
32:12So after we leave the scene, we try to learn as much as we can about Rodney Curley Jr.
32:40Police know Rodney is armed and dangerous.
32:48I thought maybe Rodney would come back to the house and I was the only witness.
32:53You know, I was the only person that could really say he was the person who did this.
32:59He had already killed his brother, so it was like, if you would kill your brother,
33:03you're capable of killing anybody else.
33:05A week after Timir's death, his brother, Rodney Curley Jr., remains at large.
33:24But when they interviewed us on the news, I basically just wanted to tell Rodney to turn
33:30himself in so that not only would he be safe, but other people would be safe as well.
33:36Turn yourself in.
33:38Don't hurt anybody else.
33:41He killed my son.
33:43I was out looking for him every single night.
33:49We were looking for him to be captured, apprehended, or killed, dead or alive.
33:55I don't care how you bring him in.
34:00On October 20th, 2023, family and friends say goodbye to their beloved, Timir.
34:07The funeral was packed.
34:09It was just a lot of people.
34:13Man, the whole city, the whole community came out like, it was amazing.
34:19The hardest part was seeing him in the casket, because it's like, once they marry you, you're
34:25gone forever.
34:29It was hard to deal with that.
34:32It was hard giving him my last kiss.
34:37On November 16th, investigators make a breakthrough in their hunt for Rodney.
34:46Rodney was found to be hiding out in a house in the city of East Cleveland.
34:56As soon as Rodney understood that the canine unit was coming in the house, he came out of
35:02the basement and gave himself up.
35:07Less than two hours after the fugitive unit arrested Rodney, he was in the interview
35:14room with Detective Legg.
35:16So, do you want to share your version of the events or tell us what happened that day
35:21that led to whatever happened happening?
35:23I'm telling him, like, stop, like, now again, that's what I said.
35:27I'm like, but stop crying like a bitch, bro.
35:29You can cry like a bitch all day.
35:30Stop crying like a bitch.
35:32I'm like, shit, I don't mind it's like that.
35:36You look down, you see my gun.
35:38Security was claiming self-defense.
35:40He was claiming that our victim Tamir had a gun on him, which there was zero evidence of
35:47and zero history of, by the way.
35:49So, he goes down and see what I'm going to see, he gets in reverse, like, when he tried
35:53to wrestle me with this hand, from his left hand, he had a gun like this, he just grabbed
35:58my gun, so my gun was falling out, I pushed it, like, up, he tried to go like this, I
36:04was like, wow, wow, the gun was going to have to, I grabbed it, I was like, put me a
36:10father by my leg, or I was pushing it up like this, and once he seen me going through my
36:14mother, he did like this, and then, like, I just tapped that, from my, I had a switch
36:21on my gun, I ain't going to allow you, show it, like, feel me, he said, he fell out, like,
36:28it went on. Then he was claiming that there was a tussle over his gun, you know, between
36:35the two of them. Mr. Curley was, you know, forgetting at some point that his mother was standing right
36:40next to him, when this was going on. The medical examiner's office determined that Tamir had
36:4616 gunshot wound defects in his body, and it was labeled a homicide. He didn't seem in
36:55any way, shape, or form remorseful, he was in self-preservation mode.
36:59And finally, I don't know, like, I've been the black sheep and black sheep in the family
37:04my whole life, like, I was always the, just, you know. But then, Mr. Curley wanted to blame
37:10everybody but himself.
37:13Rodney is indicted on charges of aggravated murder, murder, involuntary manslaughter,
37:19felonious assault, and aggravated menacing.
37:21Rodney didn't want to have to subject me or my other children to testifying. A trial would
37:29have been unfair, because Rodney knew what he did.
37:33The defense requests a plea of 10 to 12 years.
37:38As a mother of both of them, I felt like 10 to 12 years wasn't fair, because he killed his
37:45brother. So I told the prosecutor not to tell me any plea deals if it wasn't over 20 years.
37:51Just take what your punishment meant, and take accountability.
37:59Rodney pleads guilty to involuntary manslaughter with a firearm, two counts of felonious assault
38:05with a firearm, and aggravated menacing.
38:08When I got there, I couldn't breathe. So all I could really get out was a couple of words.
38:15I just really want to say that. I love Rodney so much.
38:19I love time here so much, and I miss them both so much. I don't even know what to say. It's terrible.
38:25But that day was the worst day of my life, because I knew that that day I was losing both of my sons.
38:30I didn't know how to do what everybody wanted me to do. I felt like maybe if he felt my pain
38:38from my words, it would hit him that this is reality. I believe that that was when he realized that
38:46he had destroyed his family.
38:49I love it all so much. I'm sorry. And I was telling you, if I take it back, let me do it.
38:55He genuinely apologized in that moment. Now, if it was genuine, I don't know. But in that moment, it felt genuine.
39:03I couldn't tell him I hated him. I couldn't, because I don't. I don't hate him. I hate what he did.
39:10This is my victim impact statement that I didn't get the opportunity to read to the judge
39:17in front of the monster that was sitting in the court.
39:21Rodney is sentenced to 23 to 28 years in prison.
39:46Rodney absolutely committed a monstrous act.
39:51There's nothing worse than killing your brother in front of your mother, in my opinion.
39:58I cry every day. That hurt. Everybody in my family is devastated about this.
40:06Tamir was everything to me. Tamir was my best friend. I miss everything about Tamir.
40:12I don't forget Rodney.
40:13I would tell Rodney, if I could talk to him right now, you took my daughter's father away.
40:21You stole him from her.
40:24I wish you could have just walked away.
40:30You didn't care about anybody but yourself.
40:32Happy birthday to you.
40:35Happy birthday to you.
40:39Tamir made his mark on everybody.
40:42He was a real leader in man form.
40:48I don't think that I'll ever meet anyone like Tamir.
40:54Hi, Lena. How are you?
41:10He was extremely attentive with her.
41:12Things started to unravel.
41:14Help me, please.
41:15The interviewer asked him to draw pictures of what he saw.
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