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00:00Hello, good evening everyone, you are so welcome to the show.
00:06I tell you, I am blown away by tonight's line-up.
00:10I mean, I couldn't be more blown away if I was standing next to Celia Imrie on Celebrity
00:14Traitors.
00:19Something's been banished.
00:22And they should salute you Celia.
00:24But hey, look who's here singing for us later.
00:27It's Florence and the Machine.
00:30Yeah.
00:33She'll be performing her new single, Everybody Scream.
00:36And there's lots to scream about on my sofa tonight.
00:40First off, this BAFTA nominated actor starred in Creed and kicked ass as Marvel's Valkyrie.
00:45Now brings us a dazzling reimagining of Ibsen's Hedda Gobbler.
00:49It is Tessa Thompson, everybody.
00:52There she is.
00:55Hi.
00:56Hello.
00:57Oh, look, you're in the room.
00:59You're in the room.
01:00How does he do?
01:03She became a global star in the X-Men and Hunger Games film series.
01:08And by the age of 25, had four Oscar nominations to her name, including Silver Linings Playbook,
01:13which won her the Best Actress Award.
01:15Now she brings us a heart wrenching performance in Die My Love.
01:19My Love, it is a warm welcome back to Jennifer Lawrence!
01:23Hello.
01:24Hello.
01:25Hello.
01:26Good to see you.
01:27Have a seat, too.
01:28As tortured chef Carmy in The Bear, he's won two Emmys and three Golden Globes and counting.
01:43Now he's playing one of music's greatest icons in Springsteen, Deliver Me From Nowhere.
01:49It's Jeremy Allen White.
01:51Hello.
01:52Nice to see you.
01:53Have a seat, too.
01:54Hello.
01:55Hello.
01:56Hello.
01:57Hello.
01:58Nice to see you.
01:59Have a seat, too.
02:00Hello.
02:01Hello.
02:02Hello.
02:03And if you're wondering what the real Bruce Springsteen thinks of Jeremy's performance,
02:07let's ask him.
02:08He's one of the greatest American singer-songwriters and a true music legend.
02:13It's our good friend, Bruce Springsteen!
02:16I'm still not used to it.
02:37Welcome back, everyone.
02:39First time to Jeremy.
02:40Hello.
02:41Nice to see you.
02:42Nice to see you.
02:43And actually, welcome to the room, Tessa.
02:45Have you been in the studio before?
02:46No, we were on Zoom.
02:48On the dreaded Zoom.
02:49Yeah.
02:50This is better, right?
02:51Much.
02:52Yeah, yeah.
02:53Free drink.
02:54And Bruce, here's the thing.
02:56You walked on there to Born to Run.
02:58This year, I think, is that 50 years old?
03:01I was 10 when I recorded it, so yeah.
03:03Yeah, that's incredible, isn't it?
03:04Yeah.
03:05I was born to walk.
03:07And Jeremy Allen White, I've just got to say, we all love you in the bear.
03:10You know that.
03:12And the thing is, we have had lots of actors on the show talking about playing real people.
03:20I don't think they've ever been on sat next to the real person.
03:23Yeah, yeah, this is kind of unprecedented.
03:25And so, how involved was Bruce during the filming?
03:29Bruce was there.
03:30We spent a little bit of time before we got started shooting.
03:34We met here, actually in London for the first time, at Wembley.
03:37I met him before a show.
03:38And we got together around New Jersey right before filming.
03:42And then Bruce was around, you know, on set with us.
03:45And I always feel a little guilty about that.
03:48You know, I go like, okay, not only does this fella have to play me, he has to play me while my stupid ass is sitting in the chair watching himself.
03:59Oh, that's awful.
04:00Yeah, that's terrible.
04:01Imagine that.
04:02Have you apologized?
04:04But he was incredibly tolerant of me, and I'm always thankful.
04:09He was so generous of me being there, and I had a great time.
04:13And actually, Tessa Elmer, you have a really strong connection to Bruce.
04:17Yes, deeply.
04:18My dad went on tour with Bruce for a while during the Seeker sessions.
04:22For a year.
04:23Yeah.
04:24Me and your papa played together.
04:25Yeah.
04:26Well, there you are.
04:27Yeah, we went all around the world together.
04:29Mark Antony, and he's a fabulous musician and a great guy.
04:32And I came to one of your shows, which was amazing.
04:35Oh, really?
04:36Yeah, because, you know, growing up with a musician for a father, I would always go to shows with him.
04:40And I don't even know the early ones I went to when I was tiny, but I would have, like, you know, cotton in my ears, and my dad would put me on his shoulders.
04:47And then we went to your show together, and I kid you not, the guy next to me said, do you want to get on my shoulders so you can see?
04:52Because I couldn't see anything.
04:54Your fans are so incredible.
04:56And then I met you backstage.
04:57You must have been very little.
04:58Yeah.
04:59I almost asked for your shirt, but I decided not to.
05:01And Jennifer, there's a slight link between you and Bruce, because was it when you were filming Mother?
05:11Yes.
05:12Tell us.
05:13When I was filming Mother, and I would have to do really intense scenes, I listened to a song of yours that would kind of bring me out of the funk.
05:21Really?
05:22Yeah.
05:23Can you guess which song it was, Bruce?
05:25It's not boring to run.
05:27That would bring you out of the funk.
05:29Yeah.
05:30Made me really happy.
05:31It's not in a brand.
05:32One could even say jolly.
05:33Waiting on a sunny day.
05:34No.
05:35No.
05:36Shall I put you out of your misery?
05:37Yes.
05:38It was this.
05:39Look how happy Jennifer is.
05:40Try to try to be sad.
05:41That always works.
05:42That always works.
05:43That always works.
05:44Listen, we start tonight with our big two-hander.
05:48Jeremy Allen White is Bruce Springsteen in Springsteen Delivery Me From Nowhere.
05:53It's in cinemas from the 24th of October, and here's some of the trailer to get us in the mood.
06:14This is a highly unorthodox career move.
06:18That's the point.
06:19He's channeling something deeply personal.
06:23But in this office, my office, we believe in Bruce Springsteen.
06:30Songwriting's a funny thing.
06:33It's about searching for something.
06:38Something that's gonna give your life a little bit of meaning.
06:43This is where you're meant to come.
06:47I don't need to be perfect.
06:57I just want it to feel right.
06:59Wow.
07:05And listen, we should tell people that this isn't a biopic from boy to man.
07:11No.
07:12Boy to man.
07:13It focuses on this really specific moment in your life.
07:16Which of you wants to tell us about that?
07:20It's me?
07:21You?
07:22It only focuses on about a year and a half or two years in my life when I was making this record, Nebraska, and going through a variety of different personal struggles at the time.
07:36And so it's nice.
07:38It's not a regular music.
07:40It's not really a musical biopic almost at all.
07:44It's really a character-driven drama with music.
07:48And I'm right in thinking these struggles that are portrayed in the film, we didn't really know about them.
07:53Like they weren't widely known.
07:55Well, I wasn't disseminating that I was losing my mind at the time.
07:58Yeah.
07:59Yeah.
08:00So I tried to keep...
08:02It's a big thing to know.
08:03I mean, yeah.
08:04You know, so no.
08:06It went pretty unknown, you know.
08:09And Jeremy, you know, you sing these songs.
08:12I do.
08:13But you're a non-singer.
08:15So how, well, I suppose how daunting, but also how the hell do you prepare from a standing start to do that?
08:24Yeah, it was tough.
08:25I mean, I've been a longtime admirer of Bruce's, but it took me some time to sort of accept, because I remember telling Scott, our director, you know, you sure you don't want to cast someone who already knows how to sing and play the guitar?
08:38That might be easier for you guys in the end.
08:41But I got together with, like, really talented people.
08:44I mean, this guy, Eric Vitro, who...
08:46Yes.
08:47Yes.
08:48He works with a lot of singers.
08:49He works with Sabrina Carpenter and Ariana Grande and Rosalia and...
08:54But also actors.
08:55And he helps a lot of actors.
08:56Yeah.
08:57Like Austin Butler and Timothee Chalamet get ready for sort of these films.
09:02And so I worked with him about six times a week for six months to sound something like Bruce.
09:11Yeah.
09:12And was that kind of rasp in your voice already?
09:15Um, I think you get that rasp, or I got that rasp from sort of singing songs over and over and over and over again.
09:24Um, it kind of came, uh, it came naturally.
09:26I'd have to get warmed up, sing very hard, and then I could kind of find that, that voice.
09:31Yeah.
09:32But he does a very, uh, a very telling thing.
09:35He, he, he sings the songs.
09:38Jeremy's performance is not imitative in any way, you know?
09:42When he's singing the songs, he's, he's leaning into the music's internal life.
09:46And, uh, he captures the most important thing about, about performing a piece of music.
09:53And not only does he do that in the, in the songs, but he also does it in his performance.
09:57And it just feels very, very real and very, very authentic, you know?
10:01It really is a extraordinary performance.
10:03And we're just going to watch a bit of your performance performance.
10:05You on stage.
10:06Oh, goodness.
10:07As Bruce.
10:08This is you, uh, performing Born to Run.
10:10This is Jeremy.
10:11Here we go.
10:12Together with me, we live with the sadness.
10:15I love you and all the madness in my soul.
10:20Whoa, Sunday girl, I don't know when we're gonna get through that place.
10:26We really wanna go.
10:28We walk in the sun.
10:30But till a trance like us, baby we were born to run.
10:35Yeah.
10:36A trance like us, baby we were born to run.
10:41Oh, trance like us, baby we were born to run.
10:48It's not amazing.
10:49Like, it's like you're channeling him.
10:54It's amazing.
10:55And, like, what strikes me is you must have had so much going on in your head doing that.
11:03Because there's a real audience, you're thinking the movements, the voices, everything.
11:06Yeah, yeah, I mean, it was daunting.
11:08I remember those days being particularly sort of, uh, sort of scary.
11:13Um, you know, but, but what's nice about those environments is, you know, everything else is very real.
11:18I was on stage with real musicians.
11:20Uh, uh, the audience was really excited to see the actual Bruce Springsteen who was there that day.
11:26Um, and, uh, you know, everything was real except for me.
11:30I was really the only pretender.
11:32But once everything gets going, um, yeah, it's really easy to, I guess, um, get lost.
11:38But the build-up, yeah, mind is racing.
11:40Trouble, trouble.
11:41Uh, yes.
11:42Yeah.
11:43And was it, were watching things like that being filmed odder than watching the more intimate scenes?
11:48I'm going to be stealing some of those moves on my next tour.
11:51That's how well he did.
11:53I know, extraordinary.
11:55And, uh, did you always intend to be there as much as that?
11:58Uh, first part of the film, when they first started, we were touring in Canada, so I wasn't there.
12:03But Scott, the director, said, gee, you know, I'd like you to come, you know.
12:07So, so I went, but, uh, uh, I was always, I always had a little bit of like, yeah, I don't know, you know.
12:14But, uh, he was very kind about it, so I appreciate it.
12:17I think, I think in the beginning, in that first week, when you're on any job, whatever it is, you know,
12:22you're kind of finding your footing and you're a little bit nervous.
12:25And I think in that first week, I didn't know what to expect.
12:27And, you know, you're kind of trying to, like, strum up some delusion and imagination.
12:31And, you know, you see the man you're playing in the corner and it gets difficult to kind of fall into that delusion.
12:39But then he showed up so frequently, it did, it became, uh, it became normal.
12:43Um, and then, you know, I think, like, in his presence, there was a lot of permission for me and for Scott, our director.
12:50And, and, uh, you know, he was a great support. And, uh...
12:53Did Bruce give you notes and things?
12:55No, I think he knows that would have broken me.
12:57LAUGHTER
12:58That would have been unsafe.
13:00Because you, you both played real people. Did you get feedback from the real people?
13:04Um, no, I played Joy Mangano.
13:07In the...
13:08In Miracle Mall.
13:09Joy, the, yeah, inventor of the Miracle Mall.
13:12But, no, I mean, I, I had, like, drinks with her occasionally.
13:15But, I don't, I think if she had come unsaid, I would cry.
13:18Yeah.
13:19I played Diane Nash, and she didn't give me any tips or anything.
13:23But she had to approve my casting.
13:26So that felt really sweet that she said, yeah, yeah, she can be me.
13:30Oh, I thought you were going to say bitchy.
13:31I thought you were going to say bitchy.
13:32She can be me.
13:33LAUGHTER
13:34No.
13:35I mean, that too.
13:36I was like, yeah, say it.
13:37She was like, she'll do.
13:39Actually, that's a good point, the casting.
13:42Did you have to approve Jeremy?
13:44No, no.
13:45I, I, but all I said when, when Scott came down to my house,
13:48the first day we spoke, uh, I'd seen Jeremy on the Bear.
13:53I loved his performance.
13:55I saw how the camera read his interior life, and how it read,
14:00and how, what a psychological actor he was.
14:05And he was always, he was the first guy I mentioned,
14:08and he was, there was, there was no number two.
14:10He was my first choice.
14:11I still can't believe.
14:12That's very lucky.
14:13Yeah, that's unreal.
14:14LAUGHTER
14:15So we, I feel very fortunate that he, that he took the job.
14:18And, uh, Jeremy, not a singer.
14:20He's not a singer.
14:21Well, he is now.
14:22But, uh, but a proper dancer.
14:25Yes, I've been told.
14:27Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes.
14:28You were a child, you studied and...
14:29It's true.
14:30Yeah, yeah.
14:31I started around eight years old.
14:33I had a lot of energy as a kid,
14:35and my parents kind of threw me into anything and everything.
14:38Um, a lot of sports.
14:40That wasn't enough.
14:41We did ballet, tap and jazz for a very, very long time,
14:45until I was like 12 or 13, I guess, something like that.
14:48And you still do the tap, right?
14:50Uh, no.
14:51I thought, I thought, I thought in between takes you would do tap.
14:55Yes, there is a sort of nervous tick I've found
14:58that people on set have told me I have,
15:00which is kind of like during the set up in between shots and stuff.
15:04I'll kind of do a shuffle ball change in place
15:07as almost like a meditative sort of thing.
15:11I didn't realise I did it until I was told by, um, by cast mates.
15:15Jennifer looks like she's never going to work with Jeremy Allen White.
15:18No, I just, I, I, I just didn't expect it.
15:23I'm like, I didn't know that that was really you singing,
15:27and I'm like, wow.
15:28And then, like, kick ball change, and I'm just like, wow.
15:30Like, there's just all sorts of different directions.
15:33But Jennifer, when you were young, I loved your parents,
15:35for those parents, they were so encouraged.
15:37I really, the info, I hate the information that you get.
15:42But no, your mother, your mother particularly...
15:44My mom thought I could do anything.
15:46She was just like, you are so pretty.
15:48You can sing.
15:49And so I was like, okay.
15:51And so I sang in front of my school, and I can't, I cannot sing.
15:55There's like a video of it. It's really, really bad.
15:58And weirdly, it's, it's almost...
15:59It's also a Christmas song.
16:00It's also a Christmas song.
16:01Yeah.
16:02You're obsessed with Christmas.
16:03I love Christmas.
16:04And so were you finding out in real time that you couldn't sing?
16:10Yeah.
16:11Ooh.
16:12That's...
16:13I kind of, I had a, I had an inkling at rehearsals,
16:15because I remember just, like, not knowing, like, what key,
16:19and I was just like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.
16:22And then I saw our, um, lady kind of go like, ah, ah.
16:28And then people started laughing.
16:30And I, and that was when I was kind of like, I wonder if I'm not
16:33as good as my mom.
16:34Yes, I am.
16:35But it didn't stop me from going in front of the whole school.
16:38Well, Tessa, you are a musician like your dad.
16:41Uh, you sing.
16:43And in Creed, as Bianca, we saw you sing.
16:46But apparently you were hanging out with musicians,
16:48and that did not end well.
16:50What?
16:51Well, no, I mean, so I grew up around musicians a lot,
16:56and so I've sort of come from a musical family, but I'm not.
16:59a trained musician at all.
17:01But when we were making the Music Creed, I was like,
17:03I really want to immerse myself in the musician's life,
17:06and Ludwig Gorison and I locked ourselves in a studio
17:08for two weeks to make this original music, which was so fun.
17:11And mostly we just, like, ate noodles and, you know,
17:14tried to make up these songs.
17:16But also we invite these amazing musicians in,
17:19and some of them like to, like, smoke a little pot.
17:21So one day I was like, well, I should, I'm going to do that
17:24because now I'm a musician.
17:25That was your first and only time.
17:27No.
17:29But it was, like, the stoniest I've ever been in my entire life.
17:35Yeah.
17:36Just so stoned.
17:38Like, I remember just being there on the couch
17:40and then being like, okay, let's lay down some vocals
17:42and being like, I don't know how to move.
17:44Did you think everybody was mad at you?
17:46I, yeah.
17:47Everyone was mad.
17:48I was mad at myself.
17:49I had to go outside to, like, be like,
17:51like, okay, like, get back in there, you can do it.
17:54And then I did and we got through and it was fine,
17:56but I was like, okay, I'm never going to smoke pot again
17:58when I have to perform.
17:59Lesson learnt.
18:00Yes.
18:01Well done.
18:02I used to do a thing where I'd go out in the middle of the concert,
18:06somebody would hand me a full beer and I'd chug the beer.
18:09It was always okay.
18:11Then I went to Germany.
18:13Beer is very strong in Germany.
18:19And somebody handed me a huge, a huge cup of beer
18:23and I go, you know, okay, I'm going to get it down.
18:26Chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug,
18:28chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug,
18:29I get the whole thing down and about 30 seconds later,
18:32I realized I'm stoned out of my fucking...
18:36Was it like ecstasy?
18:39Yeah, no, I got on stage and I said,
18:41I sound so fucking good right now.
18:44Yeah, yeah.
18:45I can't believe...
18:47These people are so lucky.
18:51And very quickly, Bruce, I just wonder,
18:55having been through this process of making the film with Jeremy,
18:58whatever, like when you go to perform now,
19:01do you think it's going to make you kind of self-conscious?
19:04Where you go, oh, I'm doing that thing with my shoulders now
19:06or I'm doing that thing, you know?
19:07Well, the funny thing was he did pick up a lot of my onstage mannerisms,
19:12so that does make me think, oh, yeah, I do do that, you know?
19:16So, I think I'll be all right.
19:19I think you'll be all right.
19:20Yeah, yeah, we'll get back into the swing of it.
19:22Just a reminder, you can see Jeremy Allen White as Bruce
19:25in Springsteen, Delivery From Nowhere,
19:27and that's from next Friday.
19:29OK.
19:30Meanwhile, Jennifer Lawrence brings us a powerful drama.
19:39It's called Die My Love.
19:41It's in cinemas from the 7th of November.
19:44And this is really your baby.
19:46I mean, your production company made it,
19:48but the project was brought to you by a very posh person.
19:53Well, I don't know if you've ever heard of this filmmaker,
19:56Martin Scorsese.
19:57You think who?
20:00He read the book in his book club.
20:03That's adorable, isn't it?
20:05Who else is in his book club?
20:06I don't know.
20:07Oh, man, we've got to figure that out.
20:08I know, and, like, I could ask.
20:09Yeah, you should ask.
20:10I just don't want to bother him.
20:12But, yeah, and he was like,
20:14I think that you should play this character.
20:16And then when I read the book, it was like, it was...
20:18I had a hard time kind of imagining it as a movie
20:20because it's all, like, inside her head.
20:22But I wasn't, like, going to go back to Marty
20:24and be like, I don't know, I think it's a bad idea.
20:26You and Robert Pattinson, and you play a young couple...
20:29Yeah.
20:30..but then a baby enters your life.
20:33Yes.
20:34A baby...
20:35We have a big move.
20:36A baby enters our life.
20:38Um...
20:39We start going through some marital, you know, troubles,
20:43and I'm getting a little cuckoo in my face.
20:47Um...
20:49That's it.
20:50Yeah.
20:51I know.
20:52You and Robert are so good in this film.
20:55Before we talk about it tomorrow, let's look at a clip.
20:57Uh, this is you and Robert Pattinson, uh...
21:00Well, essentially, not getting on.
21:02This place is a fucking hole.
21:04You moved us into it.
21:05I am working.
21:06And when I come home, I'm the one cleaning everything up.
21:08Oh, yo.
21:09Three days a week, we shower you in metals.
21:12Shut up!
21:13You have an ashtray on the carpet.
21:15You don't think the baby's eating that shit?
21:17Shut up!
21:18Move us into the house where your uncle shot himself up the fucking ass!
21:22Oh, my God.
21:23Up the ass!
21:24Up the fucking ass!
21:25Stop!
21:26I knew it.
21:27I knew it!
21:28Why are you short-toned on?
21:30Why do you not have your short-toned on?
21:32Shut up!
21:33Jesus Christ!
21:34Fucking sanctimonious dick.
21:35You're probably pissed off for yourself, but not the fucking dog.
21:37He's your mangy dog, and sanctimonious means that you think you're morally superior to other people, Demony.
21:42Where's your book going, by the way?
21:44Fantastic thing!
21:45Great American novel.
21:46The main character is about to batter her husband to death with a hammer.
21:49Sounds like shit.
21:50Well, you can't read, so...
21:52Maybe.
21:53You should spend a little less time.
21:54You don't get any pants.
21:55I'm a little more time writing.
21:57Maybe I'd write something.
22:00Maybe.
22:01My hands are down my pants because you put your dick everywhere except there, asshole!
22:11Oh!
22:16I love that scene.
22:17All that rage trying not to wake a baby.
22:20Yeah.
22:21There were so many moments like that.
22:23Because you read the script and it's like, oh, fighting, you know, and they have a baby and everything.
22:26But Rob and I are both parents.
22:27I mean, he had a new baby, like a newborn baby.
22:30And so we were like, there was a scene where we were in the car and we were supposed to be screaming at each other and the baby was supposed to be in the car.
22:36And then we were like, we can't, we will traumatize this child.
22:41And so there were lots of, I don't know, the babies ended up having a great time, Victoria and Kennedy.
22:49And they were very well taken care of.
22:52And I just wondered, you know, you and Robert Pattinson, in an odd way, you share this kind of almost unique experience where you both found enormous early fame in big franchise movies.
23:06And I wondered, did that bond you in any way or was it kind of a, oh, that's a thing that happened back then?
23:12Not really.
23:13I think because, like, what else?
23:14I mean, if you think I didn't ask him about Donald Trump tweeting about the breakup with Kristen, obviously.
23:19Oh, my God.
23:20Yes.
23:21I don't remember that at all.
23:23He was like, it was like three days after the photos came out with her, with, you know, whatever.
23:28Young people make mistakes.
23:29And Donald Trump was like, he'd better leave her.
23:33He can do better than her.
23:35That's like a huge rant.
23:37That's like a different kind of, I made it, you know?
23:39Yeah.
23:40Yeah.
23:41I mean, he was a president.
23:42Yeah.
23:43Right.
23:44Yeah.
23:45We could sleep at night.
23:46But anyway, I brought that up.
23:48But no, that wasn't, I think we bonded mostly, this is so boring, but like over our kids.
23:53Because like, when you have babies, you just want to show people like videos and pictures and, you know.
23:58But I know you had him over.
24:00OK.
24:01Did you have him over for dinner?
24:03So, not exactly, so I had my girlfriends over.
24:06We were in our pajamas.
24:08We were watching Little Women.
24:09It was December.
24:10So we were watching both versions.
24:12Right around Christmas time.
24:13Yes.
24:14And then, and he was like, hey, I just wrapped something like a block away from you.
24:17And I was like, oh my God, because Rob is one of the girls.
24:20Like, he wants to gossip.
24:22He wants to, like, he is just one of the gals.
24:24And so I was like, come over.
24:26But he's also like, my daughter.
24:29Like, he's very, he's a great father.
24:32He's a professional.
24:33He shows up on time.
24:34But, like, I wouldn't, like, trust that, like, he, like, put a coat on.
24:38Or, like, you know, like, he's not going to, like, eat on time or something.
24:41He, like, brings out a very, like, maternal.
24:44So he comes in and I give him a hug.
24:46And he's like, you have any food?
24:48I'm so hungry.
24:49And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:51Come in, come in.
24:52And then he goes to the bathroom.
24:53And I do have food.
24:54But it's in the trash.
24:56And so while he was in the bathroom, I was just, like, pulling food out of my garbage can.
25:01And my girlfriends were like.
25:04And I'm like, oh, no, no, no.
25:06And then so he eats it.
25:07And we're all just kind of, like, watching him eat this trash.
25:12And then when he was finished, he was like, I'm still hungry.
25:15There's no mole.
25:16And I'm like, well, there is.
25:17But it's in the garbage.
25:19And then he was like, oh, I don't mind.
25:21And then he was like, oh, I got out of the trash and kept eating it.
25:26He sounds like the ideal house guest.
25:28Yeah, yeah.
25:30And this film, this is made by your production company.
25:34Yes.
25:35And this is you kind of taking control and being, you know, choosing your projects carefully.
25:40Because was there a time where you kind of wanted to step away?
25:44You wanted to go to take the heat off being Jennifer Lawrence.
25:47Yeah, I made COVID happen.
25:48OK.
25:51That'll do it.
25:52Yeah, I was just like, I want to take a break.
25:54And it was like, the world is shutting down.
25:57Yeah, I took a little time.
25:59I mean, I was, like, working all my 20s, you know.
26:01So then I was like, what's out here?
26:03Yeah.
26:04What's going on?
26:05And did you worry about, you know, maybe you wouldn't be able to get back into it?
26:10Or...?
26:11I think I was, like, I think I was at peace with that possibility of happening.
26:15Yeah.
26:16I was like, you know, this is a lot.
26:19Yeah.
26:20I think I would have been fine.
26:22Well, I mean, no.
26:23I mean, I would be really upset.
26:24But I don't know.
26:25No, because Jeremy, obviously, because of the bear, you're famous everywhere.
26:28But in Chicago, you're, like, apparently unbelievably famous in Chicago.
26:33Extra famous in Chicago.
26:34Yeah.
26:35Yeah, yeah, yeah.
26:36Yeah, um, yes.
26:37And is it fun?
26:40Is it fun?
26:41Um, uh, yeah, I mean, I can get, like, a dinner reservation and that kind of stuff is really nice.
26:47And, uh, but I do have, I mean, after the first season was as successful as it was,
26:54they gave me a, uh, a security guard, uh, this wonderful man, Moody.
26:58Um, and Moody follows me around, uh, on set everywhere.
27:03And, um, there was one particular evening.
27:05We were shooting on location, uh, in Chicago.
27:08And we were very near a, um, or very near a, uh, school, a college.
27:13And there was kind of, like, a group of mostly very small, young women
27:17that were, like, excited to see everybody there.
27:19You.
27:20No, no, no, no, no.
27:21They were excited to see you.
27:22There was a lot of us there.
27:23And, um, and they were kind of barricaded, very, very far away from where we were shooting.
27:29And I kind of get out of the van, and I'm approaching, and they all kind of shout out.
27:34Again, they're maybe 20 yards away.
27:37They start shouting.
27:38And Moody, this very large man, lifts me in the air by my hips, parries me up the stairs,
27:46shoves me in the door as if these young women were gonna, you know, really, really get me.
27:51And I remember telling him, please do not ever, ever grab me by the hips again.
27:58That was so funny.
27:59It was so, so insane.
28:01And he felt very bad.
28:02I love you, Moody.
28:03Uh, if you're, if you're seeing this, it's all, it's all okay.
28:05But it was a wild, wild thing that he did.
28:07Yeah.
28:08Not good.
28:09I have the same problem, except, uh, everyone is 70 and you don't have to worry about it.
28:13LAUGHTER
28:16APPLAUSE
28:19And, uh, Tessa, you're another actor who, you've got a production company now.
28:24You're kind of taking control of your career.
28:26What's your production company called?
28:27It's called Viva Maude.
28:28Ooh, that's beautiful.
28:29Good name.
28:30Yeah, like this spirit of, uh, a character called Maude from a movie that I love called Herald and Maude.
28:35Oh, yeah.
28:36Well, listen, the first project from Tessa's production company, uh, to hit the screens, is Hedda.
28:40It's available to watch globally on Prime Video starting on the 29th of October.
28:46Uh, so, obviously, the, the source material for this is Hedda Gobbler.
28:49Yeah.
28:50But this is, uh, how you describe it?
28:52It's more than an adaptation, isn't it?
28:54It's sort of a reimagining.
28:55I mean, we tried to capture the spirit of the play, but it's set in 1950s in the UK in an English country house.
29:01It sort of feels like part murder mystery, in a way, and Nia DaCosta, who's the brilliant director, writer,
29:07has sort of updated the text in some interesting ways.
29:10One of the iconic characters from the piece has been gender-swapped, so it feels, yeah, different than the original.
29:17But hopefully, for people that like it, it satisfies that, too.
29:20All right, well, here's a clip just to give us a taste of the feel of the whole thing.
29:23Have you seen?
29:24What?
29:25What an age.
29:26Hedda, darling.
29:27What are you up to?
29:28You'll see.
29:29You're not leaving, are you?
29:30Best to resist temptation.
29:31Oh, come on, Eileen.
29:32You're stronger than that.
29:33What has got into you?
29:34Sometimes I can't help myself.
29:35Jesus, these people.
29:36Why are you like this?
29:37What do you so praise of?
29:38I hope you're happy.
29:39You're happy.
29:40You're happy.
29:41You're happy.
29:42You're happy.
29:43You're happy.
29:44You're happy.
29:45You're happy.
29:46You're happy.
29:47You're happy.
29:48You're happy.
29:49You're happy.
29:50You're happy.
29:51You're happy.
29:52I hope you're happy.
29:53You're happy.
29:58Don't I look happy?
29:59Woo!
30:00Woo!
30:01Lovely.
30:02So come.
30:09What did she say?
30:11I said her cheekbones are fucked up.
30:13In a beautiful way.
30:16Yeah.
30:17Yeah, yeah now here's the thing everyone's very familiar with the story of Hedda Gobbler
30:23But just a little refresher for the people. What is a Hedda Gobbler about?
30:28The original piece is about a woman named Hedda
30:31Gabler or Gobbler depending on how you want to say it and she is in a marriage that
30:36She isn't too happy with and someone from her past comes along and kind of unravels her night in our rendition
30:43There's so in the original piece. There's a party that happens off stage in our rendition. We brought everything
30:51To the party so the film is a big party and also it is significantly
30:56Gay-er and kinkier than Ipsen's original. Yes, stupid Henry
31:03Here's the thing though English accent very good
31:06Such a specific English accent. Yeah, where how did you find it? If you know, I mean
31:11We like the idea of it being sort of like I want I don't really like like very close to the Queen's English
31:17I just think it's so
31:19Fantastic, and I like people that are like so posh that they just don't even move their mouths at all
31:24You know, I really love that we couldn't go quite there
31:27But it's sort of inspired by a lot of voices during that time and of course we have heard during the Jackson before
31:33As Valkyrie in Thor, but that was filmed in New Zealand
31:37So apparently the New Zealand accents were more challenging than the your English accent. Oh, yeah hugely because they I mean first of all
31:44Our our accents and that are sort of like in the comics. It's just italic. So we do like a inspired by
31:51But in New Zealand they say like instead of they say
31:56Well Natalie Portman because she's so much shorter than Chris Hemsworth
32:00They had to build this deck for her so that when they're walking alongside each other
32:04They look like they're relatively the same height, but it's adorable. It's so sweet
32:08And she's just like always had to have it around
32:13You you said you do that sometimes I feel like sometimes I need an apple box so things don't look too strange. Yeah
32:18Yeah, I love that life too
32:22So she had this deck that they built but there with the accent it doesn't sound like deck
32:30Sounds like something else. Yes, so they'd come in. They'd be like just bring in the dick
32:36Natalie's gonna get on the dick
32:39Fantastic and we really loved it
32:43To keep an English accent when you're surrounded by New Zealand. Yeah, that's why it's you know hodgepodge
32:51But what does the accent you've been very vocal about the costume as well you did not like Valkyrie's costume
32:55No, I love her costume. I just think that I I don't know if you felt this no one prepares you for when you play a super
33:02Oh my god. So uncomfortable. Why do they do it? They didn't give me like a
33:07Thing to pee like with mystique there was nothing. I mean I I couldn't
33:13Okay, so they were like she doesn't have to go to the bathroom
33:15Same so I had that issue and then I was like we have to do something about this
33:18Yeah, and so they put like a zip in
33:21There but you still have a little costume. Oh, they gave me a funnel
33:24Yeah, they gave me that to pee. They gave me that too, but I was like I I don't I can't for you
33:29I don't I can't do it
33:33You used the funnel? Yeah, I was like, I'm sorry
33:39Did you ever have accidents with it?
33:41Oh
33:43You were just like I would just like come back with a little drops of pee
33:51That's why I was afraid it was really I was afraid of my ability with the funnel. I'm so impressed that you've made it work
33:56Well, I use a funnel myself, you know, you use a funnel. Yes, I'm very old. You're born with a funnel, no?
34:04Oh
34:14Here's the thing
34:16Jeremy, you know about big movie franchises because you are you're joining the Star Wars world. Oh my god
34:22Yes, it's true. Yeah. Yes. Now is this great? You are playing rotter the hut
34:28That's correct rotter. Yes, and is rotter any relation to
34:32Jabba the hut. That's correct. Yes. Oh, that's dad
34:40I'm hoping the Apple fell quite far from the tree
34:44You know, it's interesting. I can't I can't say too much about it
34:48But no, I look very much like that in the film. I just do voice work in the film
34:53I'm not you know putting on any um
34:55So you won't need a funnel? No funnel necessary. No, no, no, no
35:00We have our funnels
35:02He's just a bit broader, but still like a hut. Yes, it's it's kind of like him and the Mandalorian running around for
35:11For a lot of the movie together. So rotter can run rotter can move. Yeah quickly. Yes. Yes. Okay
35:16Yeah, I'm intrigued. Yeah, good
35:20Very quickly Bruce your band the cast that must say the cast deals. That's correct
35:25Was it were you literally named after the soap? Yes, I was our we were
35:29Did you pick I mean, how did you come up with that name? It was a it was a popular shampoo in Freehold, New Jersey at the time
35:36And in those days, it was kind of on the cusp of the 50s and 60s. So names like
35:44the Dell's the Shirelles
35:47Either you know, so the Castile sounded
35:50You know suited for for its moment anyway, and how old were you when you were in the cast? I was 15
35:5515 we've got a picture of you in the Castile's age 15. Here we go
36:01now
36:06I know guess which one. I know guess which one. I figured it out by elimination, but it's not obvious at all
36:14It's the guy with all the acne
36:16Well, that doesn't narrow it down
36:22It's this one right? That's correct. Yeah, I mean you do look really different
36:27The one on your right who's he?
36:30He got in the band because he was just so handsome, right?
36:36Yeah, I think he's number two that and his hair and his hair was perfect
36:41friend of mine Paul Popkin
36:44Which meant a lot in those days and I'm guessing you were slightly influenced by the Beatles would I be right?
36:49Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just a whiff of it
36:54It took a lot to get my hair that straight
36:58Curly hair I have curly hair when I had hair and I used to steal my mother's long bobby pins and
37:07Stick it in my hair at night and sleep it like this on the pillow until it would be some semblance of
37:14Well, it was worth it
37:18Bruce Springsteen everybody
37:27Right is time for music since her debut in 2009. She's won Brit Awards headline glass Marie and sold over 10 million albums worldwide
37:34Here before we hear a new single everybody scream. It is Florence and the Machine
37:44Thank you
38:00Get on stage and I call her by her first name
38:08Try to stay away, but I always meet her back at this place
38:14She gives me
38:16She gives me everything
38:18I feel no pain
38:20I break down
38:22Get up and do it all again
38:24Because it's never enough
38:26She makes me feel loved
38:28I can come here and scream
38:30As loud as I want
38:34Everybody sing
38:38Everybody sing
38:40Yeah
38:42Everybody move
38:43Yeah
38:44Everybody
38:47Everybody
38:48Speak
38:49Here I don't have to be quiet
38:51Here I don't have to be kind
38:53Extraordinary and normal all at the same time
38:57But look at me run myself ragged
38:59Blood on the stage
39:01But how can I leave you when you're screaming my name
39:03But how can I leave you when you're screaming my name
39:11Screaming my name
39:13Screaming my name
39:15But how can I come feel the evening
39:17Ragged and reeling
39:23Shocking my goat like a tambourine
39:24A bouquet of brambles
39:25All twisted and tangled
39:26I will make you sing for me
39:27I will make you scream
39:28I will make you scream
39:29Everybody dance
39:31Everybody sing
39:32I'll make you sing for me, I'll make you scream
39:36Everybody dance!
39:41Everybody sing!
39:45Everybody move!
39:50Everybody scream!
39:54Here I can take up the whole of the sky
39:57Unfurling, becoming my full size
40:01Look at me burst through the ceiling
40:03Aren't you so glad you came?
40:06Breathless and begging and screaming my name
40:10Screaming my name
40:20Everybody jump!
40:25Everybody sing!
40:28Everybody move!
40:29Everybody scream!
40:32Everybody shake!
40:34Put down your screen!
40:36Everybody up!
40:38Everybody scream!
40:41The medicine, the spells and the injections
40:44The harvest, the needle
40:46Protect me from evil
40:48The magic and the misery
40:50Madness and the mystery
40:52Oh, what has it done to me?
40:54Everybody scream!
40:56Everybody scream!
40:58Oh, wow!
41:01Flora to the machine, everybody!
41:04And her band and her choir
41:07Come on over, Flora and Stu!
41:09Come and join us!
41:11Here she comes!
41:13I'll take it, I'll take it, don't worry about it
41:17Give it to me!
41:19Thank you very much!
41:20Hello!
41:21Thank you so much for that!
41:22It's gorgeous!
41:23Come on up here!
41:24It's Tessa, Jenna, Jeremy, Bruce
41:26And Stu Lawrence
41:28Oh, wow!
41:30Thank you so much for that, Florence
41:32And now, you know people, don't you?
41:35Yes, and Tessa, it's so nice to see you
41:37Yeah, you're probably your friend, Tessa knows everybody
41:40And I know you know Bruce, because weirdly
41:43you were on the show together before
41:45This is where we hang out
41:46I don't know
41:47Yeah, it's absolutely true
41:49So yeah, this is where me and Bruce meet up every four years
41:52So this is our annual meet-up
41:54So I'm so glad you came
41:56I'm glad you came
41:57But here's the weird, last time you did not reveal
42:01that you have history with Mr. Springsteen's music
42:04I was too shy, but I'm overwhelmed by bright lights
42:09and I don't even know if I said anything when I sat down
42:12But I basically was too shy to tell you
42:16that one of the first songs that I ever started performing
42:18was I'm Going Down
42:19So we used to...
42:20Really?
42:21Yeah, I used to play it with my friend Kid Harpoon
42:23and we sang it as a duet
42:25Holy cow!
42:26And we used to play it in all the pubs and clubs of London
42:29because you know when you're starting out you don't really have any songs
42:32Of course
42:33Like we had like...
42:34I had three of my own songs
42:35and I'm Going Down was one of the other covers I used to play along...
42:39So yeah, it's...
42:40I was too shy to tell you that last time
42:43but I'm so glad that we had our annual meet-up
42:45I love it
42:47You know, this time
42:48I love it and that's an unusual choice for a duet
42:51but, uh...
42:52It was really well
42:54He doesn't like it
42:55I'm flattered
42:56Take it back
42:57No, this is another four years
42:58We'll discuss it
42:59We'll be back here
43:00Or you two will do it here
43:01Oh, that's a lovely idea, yes!
43:04Oh, yes Jessie, yes!
43:09A collab, a collab that was born on the show
43:12I'm producing now!
43:14Yes, I should say that single, Everybody Scream
43:17it's from the upcoming album of the same name
43:20Here It Be
43:21And it's out...
43:22Yes!
43:23Yeah, round of applause
43:25There it all is
43:27It's, um...
43:28And fittingly for Everybody Scream, it's out on Halloween
43:31Yeah
43:32Was that all planned?
43:33Yeah, it was all planned
43:34And I actually turned this album around faster than usual
43:38because I just wanted to make this date
43:40I was like, no, we have...
43:41It all rhymes
43:42We have to make this date
43:43because it all rhymes
43:44Front of the Machine
43:45Everybody Scream out on Halloween
43:47And...
43:48Marketing genius!
43:50Yeah
43:51Marketing genius!
43:53And, uh...
43:54Front of the Machine on tour, uh...
43:56Next year
43:57Yeah
43:58And, am I right, this is academic
43:59because it's so...
44:00What is it?
44:01Does the whole thing sell out in an hour or something?
44:03It's sold out very fast, yeah
44:06Yeah
44:07And this is not just the UK, it's Europe as well
44:09All gone
44:10UK and Europe, it's all gone
44:11But you are gonna...
44:12Presumably, like, you know, I'm not your manager
44:14but are they adding dates?
44:16No, that's it
44:18OK
44:19It's gone
44:21It's on, but it's gone
44:22I'm just saying here, it's 242,500 tickets
44:27All gone
44:28Wow
44:29Wow, that is impressive
44:30And...
44:31And you are putting on a show
44:34It's not like...
44:35Is the idea that it's going to be, like, spooky?
44:39Yeah
44:40So, um...
44:42We wanted to do something a little different
44:45Uh...
44:46It's such a personal record
44:47that there needed to be a really solid world around it
44:50and we also wanted to do things we'd never done before
44:52and...
44:53I wanted moments of it to be, like, really genuinely terrifying
44:57So, yeah, you know
44:59It's good if you didn't get a ticket
45:00It's very funny
45:03People handing them back now
45:04Oh, stop complaining
45:06Well, listen, good luck with the tour
45:07and thanks again for that amazing performance
45:10Florence and the Machine!
45:11It's a hug-in'
45:12It's a hug-in'
45:13It's a hug-in'
45:14It's a hug-in'
45:15Right, that's really it
45:16Before we go
45:17Just time for a visit to the big red chair
45:18Who have we got?
45:19Hello
45:20Hello
45:21Hi, what's your name?
45:22Jonathan
45:23Hello, Jonathan
45:24And where are you from?
45:25I'm from East Horsley in Surrey
45:26Wow, very specific in the end
45:28And what do you do there?
45:29I'm retired
45:30OK, what did you do before?
45:31I worked at the London Stock Exchange
45:32Oh, OK
45:33Did you take early retirement?
45:34Yes
45:35We stopped caring about the story now
45:37We stopped caring about the story now
45:38We stopped caring about the story now
45:39It's time for a visit to the big red chair
45:40It's time for a visit to the big red chair
45:41Who have we got?
45:42Hello
45:43Hello
45:44Hi, what's your name?
45:45Jonathan
45:46Hello, Jonathan
45:47And where are you from?
45:48I'm from East Horsley in Surrey
45:49Wow, very specific in the end
45:50And what do you do there?
45:51I'm retired
45:52OK
45:55Off you go, Jonathan
45:58OK, so I'm at a family barbecue at the in-laws
46:04And the children are running around in the garden
46:07And we have a new puppy
46:09When we're tidying up after eating the meal
46:13I'm sure that I see a chicken drumstick fall off a plate to the floor
46:20But when I look at the floor, it's not there, but the puppy is
46:24Now, I have a hard time persuading anyone that this puppy, which is this big, has swallowed a drumstick that's this big
46:32But I persuade my in-laws to search the rubbish to count the drumsticks
46:39And lo and behold, there is one missing
46:41So
46:42I like this story, it's very mysterious
46:47Oh, I was going to say dump him
46:49No, no, I like it
46:50My wife says, well, if the dog had eaten a chicken bun, it has to go to the vet
46:55So she takes him off to the vet
46:57And I stay behind with the children
47:00And long story short, she runs off with the vet
47:05That is an excellent story
47:11You can walk, sir
47:13Yeah
47:15I mean
47:19Make that movie somebody
47:23That's all we've got time for
47:25If you'd like to have a go on the vet chair yourself and tell your story
47:29You've got that to inspire our website at this very address
47:31Please say a huge thank you to all of our guests tonight
47:33Florence and the Machine
47:35Tessa Thompson
47:37Jennifer Lawrence
47:39Jeremy Alan White
47:41And Mr. Bruce Springsteen
47:43Enjoying me next week with Little Sims
47:47Rachel Zegler
47:49Bryan Cranston
47:51Sarah Paulson
47:53And Kim Kardashian
47:55I'll see you then
47:57Good night, everybody
47:59Bye-bye
48:01Bye-bye
48:03Bye-bye
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