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00:00Hello! Hello, hello, hello!
00:02Oh, thank you very much!
00:04Thank you so much, that's very kind of you!
00:06Thank you, hello, hello, and welcome to the show!
00:10Hey, everyone! It's only 12 days till Christmas!
00:14I know!
00:16And I have an early present.
00:18Five guests are chatting. Yeah!
00:20We've got a great lineup for you tonight, singing for us later.
00:22It's the fabulous Jade, everybody!
00:26She'll be singing her latest single, Church!
00:28And it's another broad church on my sofa tonight!
00:32At just 18, he became the youngest fashion director of an international magazine
00:36before reshaping British Vogue as editor-in-chief.
00:39Now he's launching his own magazine, 72!
00:42It's Mr. Edward Edenville!
00:47Right, there he is now!
00:49Hello!
00:51Welcome back!
00:53Have a seat, too, Mr. Edward Edenville!
00:56This comedy genius has created iconic characters like Johnny English, Edmund Blackadder, and the one and only Mr. Bean.
01:05Now bringing us a battle of wits in the new Netflix series Man vs. Baby, it's the great Rowan Atkinson!
01:12Yay!
01:13Let me see you!
01:14That's it!
01:15That's it!
01:16That's it!
01:17That's it!
01:18That's it!
01:19That's it!
01:20That's it!
01:21That's it!
01:22That's it!
01:23Good to see you!
01:24He's one of the most brilliant actors of his generation!
01:27The movie star of Wonka, sci-fi epic Dune, and the Bob Dylan biopic, A Complete Unknown.
01:32His latest film is called Marty Supreme!
01:35It's Timothy Chalamet!
01:36Thank you very much!
01:37Thank you very much!
01:38Thank you very much!
01:39Thank you very much!
01:40Have a seat, too!
01:41Thank you very much!
01:42Have a seat, too!
01:43Have a seat, too!
01:44Thank you!
01:45Welcome back!
01:46It's time for me now!
01:47And she's the double Oscar winning star of Howard's End, Sense of Sensibility, Love Actually, and the fabulous Nanny McPhee!
01:54Now, she's turning detective in Downs Sematary Road, it's Dame Emma Thompson!
01:59CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
02:01The glamour is sat down!
02:04It's time gone too far!
02:06Oh!
02:07You look great!
02:08I say hello, everybody!
02:09Oh!
02:10It's time!
02:11It's time!
02:12It's time!
02:13It's time!
02:14It's time!
02:15Ooh!
02:16Ooh!
02:17Fashion down the end!
02:18Fashion down the end!
02:19Hello, everyone!
02:20Welcome back to everybody!
02:21Yeah!
02:22It's a rare time!
02:23And lots of connections on the couch tonight!
02:26Of course, Emma Thompson was in the pages of British Vogue!
02:30Yes!
02:31Yes!
02:32Did you enjoy your fashion shoot?
02:33Looking like an elderly owner of a brothel in Berlin in the 1920s!
02:37LAUGHTER
02:38Thanks a lot, Edward!
02:40Now, you might think she's exaggerating!
02:42LAUGHTER
02:43We've got the picture!
02:44We've got a picture!
02:45Here we go!
02:46That's Tonto, isn't it?
02:48Yeah!
02:49Did you pick these clothes, Edward?
02:51She was supposed to be Queen Boudicca!
02:53LAUGHTER
02:54Meanwhile, there's fire engines going by and people going,
02:58What have you come in?!
03:00LAUGHTER
03:01It's very nice!
03:02Very nice!
03:03And, er...
03:04Now, Timothy...
03:05Yes?
03:06...you worked with the great Ron Atkinson.
03:07Yes, on Wonka!
03:08Yes!
03:09Yes!
03:10Yes!
03:11Wonka!
03:12Say it like this...
03:13Wonka!
03:14Wonka!
03:15Because if it just even vaguely moves towards a different vowel, it's a different, totally different
03:19one!
03:20This is...
03:21I was warning you, because it was slightly bit Wonka!
03:23I know, yeah!
03:24And I thought...
03:25That'll get bleeped out!
03:26That'll get bleeped out!
03:27And, er...
03:28You played Father Julius, but off-screen you were giving Timothy advice, I hear?
03:31He was giving me a great...
03:33You know, he was giving me unaffordable car advice.
03:35Yes.
03:36Oh, OK.
03:37So, Rowan is an incredible car collector.
03:38I reached out to him.
03:39I, to this day, have not bought a car.
03:41And the references he gave me were wildly out of my league, you know?
03:44LAUGHTER
03:45I didn't think they were, so...
03:47LAUGHTER
03:48I'm sorry that they were.
03:49But, yeah, I tried my best.
03:50When you were about 20, you gave me a lift in an Aston Martin.
03:53Good.
03:54You...
03:55I was about 20, you were 22?
03:56Er...
03:57Oh, gosh, yes.
03:58Something like that.
03:59Yeah, that sounds about right.
04:00You had an Aston Martin then.
04:0122?
04:02Yes.
04:03Yeah, I think I did.
04:04You can only imagine the insurance.
04:05LAUGHTER
04:06It was the only reason that I entered show business was to attempt to buy an Aston Martin.
04:10LAUGHTER
04:11And I got one quite young.
04:12Yeah, you did.
04:13Very young.
04:14Did you...
04:15How did you feel in the experience?
04:17Um...
04:18I thought, to be honest, Row, I thought, what a knob.
04:22LAUGHTER
04:23I'm so sorry.
04:25I was quite...
04:26How funny.
04:27I was a bit kind of thingy at the time.
04:29I was quite...
04:30OK, you felt a knob in me.
04:31I just thought, why have you got this huge car at 22?
04:36Why were you in this car?
04:38We...
04:39Because we've known each other since you were about 10.
04:40Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:41I mean...
04:42It must have been short.
04:43But it was platonic?
04:44It was normal?
04:45It was platonic, I swear.
04:46LAUGHTER
04:47Yes, it was.
04:48I wasn't putting out.
04:49LAUGHTER
04:50Oh, yes.
04:51It was platonic.
04:52You're glad now, Rowan.
04:53Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:54I'm setting the records straight.
04:55Hugely related.
04:56The other thing that links Emma and Rowan is you were both in...
05:00I think, is it your favourite Christmas movie of all time?
05:03Love Actually.
05:04What a jam.
05:05What a jam.
05:06CHEERING
05:07I was re-watching it last night and that's a sort of complicated
05:10ethically storyline, you know?
05:11Oh, yeah.
05:12Because you guys resolve the dispute quite easily.
05:14Well, do you think?
05:15I don't think so.
05:16I think that when he gets off that plane, Alan Rickman, God rest him,
05:20playing my husband, I think you just don't know...
05:23You know it'll never be the same again.
05:25Mm-hm.
05:26That's the thing.
05:27But you were in the same scene, weren't you?
05:29Yeah, I can't remember...
05:30You?
05:31You wrap up the naughty necklace.
05:33Well, I wrap...
05:34Yes, exactly.
05:35But I think...
05:36You see, this is the problem with not actually watching films
05:38you've made.
05:39LAUGHTER
05:40Is trying to remember the story.
05:42LAUGHTER
05:43You work in Selfridges.
05:44Yes.
05:45Because I was in Selfridges all night with Alan Rickman.
05:47We were, we were.
05:48We were all there in Selfridges.
05:49We were all there.
05:50And Alan Rickman, God bless him, was pretty annoyed about...
05:53Yeah.
05:54He didn't really want to be up all night, you know, shooting.
05:55In Selfridges.
05:56Because we had to shoot during the night
05:57because they didn't allow us to shoot during the day.
05:58Yeah.
05:59Yeah.
06:00So we had to pretend it was the day.
06:01And he was...
06:02He was in...
06:03He was fairly short-tempered.
06:04Yeah.
06:05Whereas I just did a spot of shopping.
06:06Yeah.
06:07Yeah.
06:08You were just shopping.
06:09Put a lot of things aside.
06:10Shopping.
06:11Yeah, exactly.
06:12Shopping.
06:13Lifting.
06:14LAUGHTER
06:15What was the vibe on?
06:16So was there tension from the, from the car experience years prior?
06:19Oh, yeah.
06:20No, do you know what?
06:21Actually, by then, by then...
06:22Were you channelling the knob?
06:24LAUGHTER
06:25I'm so sorry, Rowan.
06:26I didn't mean to be rude, but at that time, I was only 22.
06:30Yeah, yeah.
06:31You've got to, you know, forgive.
06:32It's quite hurt.
06:33Forgive and forget, love.
06:34No, no.
06:35Er, yeah.
06:36Er, no.
06:37Edward Enneville, great to have you here.
06:39A fashion expert.
06:40But even you have off days with fashion.
06:43Tell us about getting your OBE.
06:45Oh, my God.
06:46So, I mean, I...
06:47I mean, you've, you've, you've both been at the palace.
06:49You've both...
06:50So, I remember, yes, I had the OBE.
06:51I went into the palace, Buckingham Palace.
06:54So proud.
06:55My family, my...
06:56You know, there's something about that day, isn't there?
06:58Yeah.
06:59You know, you go into that red room and Princess Anne's there and...
07:02And I got into the room and I realised,
07:04oh, I have to walk backwards.
07:06That morning, I just got a brand-new McQueen suit.
07:08I was in a McQueen suit, but they forgot to add the braces.
07:11So, I thought, you know what, they're never going to know.
07:13Got a pair of stockings, Jimmy rigged it.
07:15Oh, very good.
07:16I'm going to be fine.
07:17So, I'm there.
07:19I get presented, you know.
07:20Yeah.
07:21The medal.
07:22Yeah.
07:23And my trousers start to fall.
07:25And I have to walk backwards.
07:26And I'm walking backwards, literally petrified.
07:29I'm like, I don't want to be the Edward and Nymphal that mooned.
07:34Mooned up a palace.
07:36So, I kind of managed to sort of go back slowly,
07:39shamefully grab my shorts and run out.
07:41And if you see any picture that day, you see the pants are literally.
07:44It's so funny.
07:45There's a picture of you.
07:46I think Naomi Campbell is holding your trousers off.
07:50They do look very baggy.
07:53They do look fucking baggy.
07:54It was nearly there.
07:55I was nearly done.
07:56The stockings didn't quite make a good bell.
07:59Listen, let's get started, because Emma's latest work is a thriller.
08:04It's called Down Cemetery Road.
08:06The final episode just dropped, so all episodes are available now on Apple TV.
08:11Yeah.
08:12So, this is from the Mick Heron novel, Mick Heron who wrote Star Horses.
08:16And when they came to you with this, you already knew the book.
08:19Yeah, because I've always loved Mick.
08:20OK.
08:21In fact, I came across him in my local bookshop in 2015 or something, and I picked this book up.
08:27Because I love thrillers.
08:28I've always read thrillers.
08:29And I started to read it, and I thought, oh, that's a good thriller.
08:32And then I started to laugh, because it's really funny.
08:35And he told me, actually, subsequently, that when he first sent Cemetery Road, the Zoe
08:41Byrne thrillers and the Slough House thrillers to the publishers, they were very confused,
08:46because they said, look, is this a thriller or is it a comedy?
08:49Because, weirdly, in this country, which is the funniest country, I think, on the planet,
08:54people can't cope when you mix comedy with something else.
08:57You know, somehow it's just got to be separate.
08:59Yeah.
09:00But he's terribly, terribly funny.
09:02And for people who haven't read the books, Zoe Bohm, tell us about her.
09:06What is going on?
09:07She's a shit-kicking, very tough private detective, private investigator, probably had a dreadful
09:16childhood with that kind of parent who never gives you any kind of backup whatsoever and
09:21doesn't believe in you, so that she's got very low expectations.
09:25I'm sure some of you in the audience know what I mean, where you just go, no, I just,
09:29I'm not going to expect much.
09:31Yeah.
09:32And so she's quite tough, quite compassionate.
09:36I had this wonderful bond with Ruth Wilson, who's playing my co-star.
09:40There she is.
09:42So we had a fantastic time making it, and I love her.
09:45She's sort of a good avatar, because she's decided not to be a good girl.
09:50She doesn't have to be a good girl.
09:52She doesn't have to assuage her way around people through life, being nice, always being
09:56nice.
09:57Always have to be so fucking nice.
09:59I'm so fed up with it.
10:00Why do we have to do that all the time?
10:03Why?
10:04There are many women in the audience going, yeah.
10:07I know you can relate, so don't pretend that you don't.
10:11Anyway, so Zoe just doesn't do that.
10:14She's very unapologetic, shall we say.
10:16Well, we've got a clip.
10:17This is you, as Zoe Bohm, meeting Sarah, played by the great Ruth Wilson for the very first time.
10:22APPLAUSE
10:24That's it.
10:26That's it. We're looking at it.
10:28And what is it that you felt to get into Zoe Bohm's character, the look and everything,
10:32you tapped into kind of a younger version of yourself?
10:35Yeah, I mean, she struck me as somebody, and I don't know, will you all understand, Rowan?
10:41I don't think Edward will because you're younger.
10:43That's right.
10:44And you won't!
10:45LAUGHTER
10:46Mr...
10:47Little Starling.
10:48LAUGHTER
10:49But I grew up in Camden Town in London, which was rough, you know?
10:54I mean, the school I went to, Camden School for Girls, which is a wonderful school, but
10:58of course, quite early on in women's education, let's face it, I was born in 1959.
11:03We'd only just kind of got the bloody vote.
11:06So, girls' schools, right, for instance, round the back gates, there was always a bloke
11:11in a mat exposing himself.
11:12Oh, God.
11:13Does that still happen?
11:14LAUGHTER
11:15I don't know.
11:16It was just normal.
11:17It was just completely normal.
11:18I haven't done it for ages.
11:20LAUGHTER
11:21Don't.
11:22But anyway, we grew up in sort of a scrappy, grimy London, and I think
11:27of Zoe as part of that sooty past, you know, when there was still fogs and kind of dirt
11:35and a lot of aggro, actually, but also quite a lot of community as well.
11:40And there's kind of a lack of vanity about Zoe.
11:44What do you mean?
11:45Well, the hair, you know, you're very quaffed tonight.
11:49Tonight, yeah, but a lot of effort gone into this.
11:52There's two people back there who are just, you know, they're on drips.
11:55They've done so much fucking well.
11:57LAUGHTER
11:58Yeah.
11:59That's, um, that's, yeah.
12:00I think that's all right.
12:01No, no, it looks good.
12:02It looks all right.
12:03It looks good.
12:04Talking of haircut, Timothy, Timothy, what happened to the beautiful Chalamet locks?
12:07They're all gone.
12:08Yes.
12:09They've been stolen.
12:10How long, how long have they been missing?
12:12Since June, June 25th.
12:14Did you put them on eBay?
12:16No.
12:17LAUGHTER
12:18Somebody could have stuffed a cushion with them and made a lot of damage.
12:21I didn't think of that.
12:22I didn't think of it.
12:23Did they just throw the Chalamet locks away?
12:26You know, the, the, it was for a different, it was for a film for Dune Part 3.
12:31And there's supposed to be a nice character shift.
12:34And I'm, I'm playing 15, 20 years older.
12:37So, we did a three millimeter haircut, I think it's called.
12:40And then the director wanted more, 1.5.
12:41And then we did one and I begged him.
12:43I said, please, please.
12:44Like, it was, it, you know, your hair, weirdly, we're all attached.
12:48It's kind of like our personality.
12:49This, these follicles that grow out of our heads.
12:51Yeah.
12:52Samson.
12:53Yeah.
12:54You know, your hair contains your power.
12:55Could do.
12:56I've never heard that.
12:57Samson and Delilah, she cut all his hair off and took all his power.
13:00I have no clue what you're talking about.
13:01LAUGHTER
13:04I'm going to take you for margaritas after this.
13:07LAUGHTER
13:08And I'm going to tell you lots of stories about hair.
13:10But you're right, you're right.
13:11It's like a really powerful thing.
13:12It's a powerful thing, yeah.
13:13Like, margaritas and read the Bible to Timothee Chalamet.
13:15LAUGHTER
13:16It's a great combo.
13:17It's a great combo.
13:18Now, meanwhile, down 70's road, I am surprised to hear,
13:21this is your kind of first kick-ass action thing.
13:25Yes.
13:26Which, actually, as it turns out, at 66 was a really stupid idea.
13:31LAUGHTER
13:34It's like, I've never been the same again.
13:35Why do people do it?
13:36Yeah.
13:37I don't know.
13:38I've rung friends who are action heroes and said,
13:40how have you managed?
13:41How are you still alive?
13:42And they've all said, we've had a lot of operations.
13:44Oh.
13:45Yes.
13:46Oh, exactly.
13:47Yeah.
13:48And I'm going, why didn't I read it, probably?
13:51But, you know, it's not in the bloody book.
13:53So, you know, you get those pages later.
13:58And I'm going, being pulled out of a rat-infested tunnel
14:01by her feet, backwards, blown up on a...
14:04Blown up on a beat!
14:05Well, hang on a second!
14:07LAUGHTER
14:08It's not in the book!
14:09It's not in the...
14:10Nobody told me!
14:11Actually, I'm sorry, Rowan, because of the things you've done,
14:14there is such a physicality to them all.
14:17Yes.
14:18Well, sometimes, yeah.
14:19But do they go over into, kind of, stunt work?
14:22Do other people have to ever do things for you?
14:24Erm...
14:25Yeah, not so much the driving.
14:26I tend to do my own driving.
14:27Oh, yeah, yeah.
14:28What a knob.
14:29What a knob!
14:30What a knob!
14:31I am teamwork, by the way.
14:32I think it's the coolest stuff ever.
14:33That's very sweet.
14:34Don't let them burn.
14:35No, I've got to, yeah, keep up my reputation as a knob.
14:39And, yeah, on and off set.
14:41But, I mean, generally speaking, yeah, I've done...
14:43I did a movie quite a while ago called Mr. Bean's Holiday.
14:45Oh, yes.
14:46Woo!
14:47In which Mr. Bean...
14:48And there's a scene...
14:49You're so casual about that.
14:50I did a film called Mr. Bean's Holiday.
14:51Bow!
14:52Well, does he look like an even bigger knob if he said,
14:54Oh, well, of course you will know Mr. Bean's Holiday.
14:57You know, so...
14:58I'm trying to reduce my knob quotient.
15:02As far as I possibly can.
15:05Oh, well, of course you will know Mr. Bean's Holiday.
15:07You know, so...
15:08I'm trying to reduce my knob quotient.
15:11As far as I possibly can.
15:13I'm trying to reduce my knob quotient.
15:15As far as I possibly can.
15:17As far as I possibly can.
15:18In which I...
15:19We had this idea in which Mr. Bean would overtake a peloton of cyclists.
15:24Oh, that's right.
15:25And no matter almost how slowly we got the peloton to go,
15:29I was finding it quite tricky.
15:31But I really, you know, we did several takes...
15:34Oh, there you are.
15:36..in which I overtake the peloton of cyclists.
15:39And I really did it, for real.
15:40You know, it was in the days when CGI was less...
15:43..was less accessed.
15:45And, um, but, oh, goodness me, after the second take,
15:47I was absolutely dead.
15:49They made it do it more than once.
15:51Yeah, yeah, we did it several times.
15:53But the, um, but...
15:54And, of course, you know, they were only going probably 20 miles an hour.
15:58You know, the peloton, but you can make it look as though they're going
16:01faster if you track with the camera.
16:03And so I, you know, I just, yeah, I sort of hung on in there.
16:06But after, yeah, after a couple of takes, I was...
16:09I was dead.
16:10But I survived.
16:11You did.
16:12Yes.
16:13You were really enjac tatty, Roe.
16:14Well...
16:15It suddenly occurred to me...
16:16Is that Mr Hewell...
16:17Well, I mean, this was definitely his world.
16:19Exactly.
16:20Well, thank you.
16:21Yeah.
16:22Nice compliment.
16:23He's a compliment.
16:24You can take it because I have been very rude.
16:26But now I want to make up for you.
16:28Sitting between this mending energy.
16:30I feel mending and healing.
16:33Getting back to Dan Sematary Road, you have an exciting announcement to make.
16:37Oh, well, yes, we're going to do a second season of it.
16:42Excellent.
16:43Great job.
16:44Because I just finished the first one last night, so I'm delighted.
16:47Very, very good.
16:49And just a reminder that the first season, all eight episodes of Dan Sematary Road
16:52are on Apple TV now.
16:54Thank you very much.
16:55Thank you very much, Emma Thompson.
16:56You're welcome.
16:57Thank you, thank you.
16:58Thank you very much.
17:00Our big movie tonight comes from Timothee Chalamet.
17:03It is called Marty's Supreme.
17:05It will be in UK and Ireland cinemas from the 26th of December.
17:09And here's just a glimpse of the trailer.
17:12LAUGHTER
17:13Marty's Supreme is the movie.
17:17I mean, the main headline here is you are astonishing in this movie.
17:22You are so, so good in this.
17:24So, tell us about Marty's Supreme.
17:26Who is Marty's Supreme?
17:27Yeah, Marty's Supreme is a film about a fictional character named Marty Mouser,
17:30loosely inspired by a real-life figure named Marty Reisman,
17:33who was a table tennis legend in New York in the 1950s.
17:37And the movie's about the pursuit of a singular dream, about ambition, about following your heart.
17:43And I do believe it's an important film to kind of put out now in the sense that you wouldn't be an idiot for thinking we're living in a dark time, especially if you're young.
17:51And I hope this movie can serve as an antidote, you know?
17:54And though the metaphor is table tennis, which is perhaps unusual, it ultimately is about dreaming big, which is why it's the tagline of the movie.
18:03Also, what I liked about it is he's dreaming big and he's kind of a grifter and there's a con-man element and all that, but it's based on genuine talent.
18:12Oh, yeah, he's the best in the world, or he believes to be the best in the world.
18:17I don't want to reveal plot lines in the movie, but what starts as a table tennis movie, sort of evolves into a heist film and lands in a very human place, you know?
18:25I was in Brazil last week, we did a premiere in L.A. three days ago.
18:29I'm so happy to be here to get a chance to talk about it with you, Graham, and for you guys to be here.
18:34Marty Supreme comes out Boxing Day, I want to say that about 30 times so it all gets in your head.
18:38Yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:39No, but really, this is like a...
18:40And Boxing Day, very own message, very good.
18:43Yeah, yeah.
18:44We briefed you well.
18:45December 26th, exactly.
18:46Nothing to do with, you know, throwing hands.
18:48That was a terrible joke.
18:50But, uh, so...
18:52And, uh, this is an indie film, ultimately, you know, financed by A24, which is an indie production company in America,
18:58so if you like original films, if you're, you know, tired of seeing remakes and studio blockbusters, many of which I've been a part of,
19:04this is a, this is, this is it, and I can't say it enough.
19:08Marty Supreme, Boxing Day, December 26th.
19:11Oh, on you!
19:12Yeah!
19:13Yeah!
19:14And it's a weird thing to say, because the scale of the film was really big, and the, the, what I thought was amazing, the casting of it, everyone, every, there isn't an extra, you feel, that wasn't chosen.
19:28Mm-hmm.
19:29Everyone has a really interesting face, a really interesting look.
19:31We had an incredible detail-oriented director, his name's Josh Safdie, he's sort of a street poet, he referred to Abel Ferrara like that yesterday, sort of the early Scorsese films, and Josh is that guy, he directed a film called Uncut Gems, with Adam Sandler, with a good time, with the United Kingdom's own Robert Pattinson, and, uh, I thought that was gonna get more low, and...
19:50Never tell him, never tell him that happened.
19:51Yeah, yeah.
19:52No, I'm just kidding.
19:53I said your name and nothing.
19:54Yeah, yeah.
19:55That's not true, man.
19:56By the way, hey Rob, if you ever watched this, I didn't plug that enough, man.
19:57I didn't get it.
19:58Yeah.
19:59Um...
20:00Twilight's Robert Pattinson, but that's it.
20:01Yeah.
20:02They love it.
20:03They love him.
20:04And, the, the director, what, what's this thing that he wanted to tap into, a bit, like,
20:19Emma tapping into her younger self.
20:21Yeah.
20:22You were tapping into your younger self.
20:23Well...
20:24Young...
20:25Well, like when you were five.
20:27You're very young already.
20:29The idea was, you know, Josh is from New York, I was raised in Hell's Kitchen.
20:33You know, you, much like living in London, you grow up in a box in a lot of ways.
20:37Yeah.
20:38You wear your personality.
20:39Audacity could be personality.
20:40It's your armour, it's your sleeve, and certainly I was hawking, you know, uh, modified PlayStation controllers.
20:46I was on the subway singing the French national anthem to try to impress girls, you know.
20:50Like, I was an outlandish youth, you know.
20:53It's why I landed here.
20:54Yeah.
20:55You know, straight shot to Graham Norton's couch.
20:57Yeah.
20:58Yeah.
20:59There wasn't the time to read the Bible, Emma.
21:01Yeah.
21:02And, you know, so, anyway.
21:05And, are those, and that, that idea of you being like that.
21:09So, Marty Supreme, this character, has this kind of singular vision and this kind of self-belief, unshakable self-belief.
21:15And then I heard you, when you were picking up your SAG award for A Complete Unknown, where you played Bob Dylan,
21:20in your speech you said this thing about, you know, you are in pursuit of greatness.
21:23And I've heard you talking about this film.
21:25Are you tapping into Marty Supreme's kind of vision?
21:29Yeah.
21:30And that was two months after we finished filming.
21:31Oh, was it?
21:32Oh, wow.
21:33Yeah, kind of like still in that, that's not in a pretentious way.
21:36It's not like a method way.
21:37It's just sometimes you're in the energy of the tone, the character.
21:39Yeah.
21:40And, but that's an ephemeral pursuit, you know.
21:43I am living in absolute humility next to Dame Emma Thompson and the legend Rowan Atkinson and Edward Enniffel.
21:51Thank you for the British Vogue cover, my brother.
21:54I brought you the Dylan role with the curly hair.
21:56Yeah, with the curly hair.
21:58And the other thing then, so in terms of promoting this film, you know, you want people to see this film, clearly,
22:04and you're really backing it.
22:06You've done this PR campaign with all sorts of things.
22:09This is you in New York.
22:11If people hadn't seen the film, this is Marty Supreme's ping pong ball on people's heads.
22:17Did you come up with this idea?
22:19Yeah, those are my friends.
22:21Are they still your friends?
22:23After seven, eight years in Hollywood, you know, the people that, you know,
22:27the day ones get sick of your new life.
22:29These are my new friends.
22:30Yeah.
22:32What else have you done?
22:33You, you, you, is that, that's you in there?
22:35Yes.
22:36That I, that I self-financed, you know.
22:37They didn't love that, you know, A24.
22:39They didn't tell me not to do it, but I paid them.
22:41And that was more expensive than you'd think.
22:43I had a whole crew.
22:44Yeah.
22:45A whole crew.
22:46I got this set.
22:47It was like 25 people.
22:48You could have bought one of Rowan's cars for that shit.
22:50I know.
22:51Jesus Christ.
22:52Yeah.
22:53When you start to pay for yourself, you suddenly realize, oh, this is quite expensive.
22:56This is expensive, man.
22:57Yeah.
22:58When you put a fucking orange-pink pong ball on your head, what is this?
23:01It's a sort of masochism, isn't it?
23:02It's a little masochist.
23:03I didn't realize I was in there.
23:04We have leaf blowers underneath.
23:06It was on a, it was a special effects master, Ridley Scott special effects master.
23:09I really should know his name.
23:10It was in his backyard.
23:11And I'm sitting there and I had the head on and I'm getting bruised by the balls.
23:15I did think to myself, I thought, this is sort of a, you know, I got to explore this,
23:19you know, in my personal life.
23:21You might have to.
23:22But then, you know, it's all set in the 50s, but the jackets and the logo, these have become
23:29very desirable.
23:30Okay, you need to stop now.
23:31This is, because look, come on.
23:33He's in merch.
23:34Yeah.
23:35It's merch already.
23:36No, but like, but this is very desirable.
23:40Everybody wants this merch.
23:41Hell yeah.
23:42Yeah.
23:43Like even your mother, even your mother, you posted a text from your mother.
23:48Can you please send me a Marty Supreme jacket?
23:50Of course I will.
23:51Please do it now.
23:52But finally, I can wear it in the mirror.
23:54Please get a size small.
23:55She called me, she called me two days ago.
23:57She said, hey, you know, your parents, so well, the tone was already like, okay, hey,
24:02you know, what did I do wrong?
24:03She goes, did you, did you post the message I sent you about the jacket?
24:06I said, yeah.
24:07And I said, sorry, I should have asked you.
24:09And she goes, no, it's all right, but where's the jacket?
24:11And then I said, I'm going to start giving it to you.
24:14But I will say, real quick, I feel like they're well designed, I'm proud of these.
24:17But in an era where like excess consumerism isn't chic, blah, blah, blah, I feel like the idea of this is what people have been liking.
24:24As far as dreaming big and being relentless in that pursuit, I feel like it's what it represents.
24:28And if that's marketing 101 or if you cringe at that, Marty Supreme, Boxing Day, there's someone, there's someone at home that's not cringing at that.
24:36You know what I mean?
24:37Can I just say, Ronak is sitting there thinking, I've got man v baby in a minute.
24:40I've really got a target.
24:42How can I touch it in that?
24:47You are really good at this.
24:53Yes.
24:54Cheers, man.
24:55But Edward, in terms of fashion promotion, you went the extra mile for your new company, E72.
25:02E72, yes.
25:03You commissioned these, a lovely grill.
25:08I thought you might be wearing it tonight.
25:11No, you know, I'm from Lovebrook Grove, pretty much like you. I'm from the hood.
25:14OK.
25:15You know what, I'm a long way away, but we're going to wear it.
25:18Yeah.
25:19That's what I wanted tonight for you.
25:20No, it's very...
25:21That's from Lovebrook Grove, by the way.
25:22Yeah.
25:23West London.
25:24It's the right West London thing.
25:26It's the bling version of Nanny McFee, isn't it?
25:29I can see.
25:30I really want that.
25:31I love that clip.
25:32I might get you.
25:33I'll get you one.
25:34I'll get you one, I promise.
25:35Fantastic.
25:36Now, Marty Supreme, Marty Supreme, as I said, your performance is astonishing.
25:41You've had rave reviews, and now, well, the movie's got three Golden Globe nominations.
25:46You for best actor, best film, best screenplay.
25:51Congratulations.
25:53And I'm sure there'll be plenty more.
25:54Good luck when it comes to them all.
25:57You deserve all the praise.
25:58Sure does.
25:59I appreciate it, Graham.
26:01I'm sorry.
26:02No, no, no, no.
26:03It's true.
26:04And I...
26:05I must remind people, because they may not know...
26:07Marty Supreme...
26:08Marty Supreme Boxing Day!
26:09...in cinemas from...
26:10Boxing Day!
26:11You've done it, Timothy.
26:12You've done it.
26:13You've sold it.
26:14You've sold it.
26:15Thank you, guys.
26:17That's it.
26:18I'm here.
26:19I'm here.
26:20I'm here.
26:21I'm here.
26:22All right.
26:23Comedy fans rejoice.
26:24Rowan Atkins returns as the hapless Trevor Bingley.
26:27We go big on this, Rowan.
26:28Yeah.
26:29It's Man Vs Baby.
26:31It's out on Netflix now.
26:33And this is the much-anticipated sequel to Man Vs B.
26:37So, did you always know there was going to be another one?
26:40Or how long did it take to come up with the idea of a baby?
26:43No, no, no.
26:44With Man Vs B, we just thought it was quite funny to do a show
26:46about a man stuck in a house with a bee.
26:48And it was!
26:50A man's house at the end.
26:51It turned out, in the end, to be quite a good idea.
26:54And that was a couple of years ago on Netflix.
26:58And it did, you know, well enough to justify them wanting some more.
27:01So, then we thought, well, what are we going to do?
27:04Do we do Man Vs B2?
27:06Or do we do Man Vs Wasp?
27:09Or we...
27:11Anyway, and actually, with this one, it's a Christmas show.
27:14It's set at Christmas.
27:15My character is the same, called Trevor Bingley,
27:18and he's a house-sitter.
27:20A sort of reluctant house-sitter,
27:22and certainly under-qualified house-sitter.
27:25I think it's fair to say.
27:26Certainly on the basis of his experience in Man Vs B.
27:30Yeah.
27:31Anyway, but he manages to wangle another job.
27:34This time, he's looking after a Swiss oligarchs penthouse flat
27:38in Mayfair in central London.
27:41But for reasons that maybe I shouldn't explain how it comes about.
27:46But anyway, he's stuck with a baby.
27:48So, he has to house this flat looking after a baby, which isn't his.
27:51And he's trying to find the parents, the carers of the baby,
27:55and he can't.
27:56So, he's stuck with it.
27:57So, that's the essence.
27:59Well, we've got a clip.
28:00First clip, this is you as Trevor, out and about with your baby.
28:05APPLAUSE
28:11What I find sad about that is I think Trevor only tells a joke
28:16about twice a year.
28:18And I think that's one of his, you know, that was one of his attempts
28:22and it's gone down so badly.
28:23So badly.
28:24I feel sad.
28:25I feel sorry for him.
28:26And I don't think of your characters ever as being mean
28:29or nasty-spirited, but you think that Trevor is nicer
28:32than the characters you normally tell.
28:33Yeah, I mean, in Man Vs B, he was quite psychopathic
28:36because the B drove him kind of nuts.
28:40But in this one, he's not so psychopathic.
28:43He's actually, he's a genuinely sweet man, I think, Trevor Bingley.
28:47And that's relatively rare, actually, in the characters that I played
28:52because I think, you know, Mr Bean is a selfish, self-centred,
28:56anarchic child, you know, really a very, you know,
29:01he looks after number one and is quite charmless sort of character.
29:06And the Blackadder is a sarcastic, you know, sardonic,
29:11negative sort of guy.
29:13I mean, humorously negative in terms of what he says
29:16and the way he says it, but, you know, not, you know,
29:19and even Johnny English, you know, the comedy spy character,
29:23which I occasionally play, that he, he's, he's vain
29:28and sort of, again, self-centred, doesn't care about anybody else.
29:32He's a knob, really. He's another knob, yeah, yeah.
29:35Clearly, but, so, I think Trevor Bingley is a pleasant contrast
29:40to actually these, this sort of, yeah, this catalogue of...
29:46I mean, just people that you wouldn't want to have dinner with.
29:49That's true. That is true.
29:52You wouldn't want to have dinner with any of those people.
29:54And lots of people still big fans of Mr Bean,
29:57Timothy, loving Mr Bean's holiday,
29:59but I'd sort of forgotten that at its height, I mean,
30:03Mr Bean was a kind of global phenomenon.
30:05It was just kind of, it was a madness.
30:08Yeah, it could be, yeah.
30:10I had very little experience of it, except, oh, yeah,
30:13once in Amsterdam, I remember doing signing in the old days
30:16when you used to sign videos.
30:18Wow. Video cassettes, that's how long ago it was.
30:20And I remember going to Amsterdam and there was this signing
30:23and, oh, there was a tremendous fuss and flim-flam
30:26and, you know, crowds and, um...
30:29And I remember being shuffled out of the back of the store
30:33in a police car and all that sort of stuff.
30:35Oh, wow. Yeah, that was kind of...
30:37And because Mr Bean didn't need language so it could play anywhere,
30:40was there anywhere that it didn't play?
30:42Was there anywhere, you know, that it didn't go?
30:44No, eventually it went everywhere.
30:47But in the 90s there was the capacity
30:49because it was just television distribution
30:52over which I had some control.
30:55Uh, and, you know, sort of pre the mass use and access
30:59of the internet.
31:00Yeah.
31:01Uh, but...
31:02And therefore that I did see an opportunity
31:05to stop Mr Bean being shown in Italy.
31:09So for a number of years it wasn't...
31:11It was shown all over the world except in Italy.
31:14Why?
31:15Uh, well, just because I wanted to go on holiday to Italy.
31:17LAUGHTER
31:18And it worked for several years.
31:21This was kind of in the early mid-90s.
31:24LAUGHTER
31:26And it worked very well.
31:28No one had the slightest clue who it was.
31:30And then the first Mr Bean movie, Bean...
31:33What's it called?
31:34Bean the ultimate disaster movie?
31:35Something like that.
31:36Uh, which came out in 97,
31:37that of course the film company wanted it to be everywhere,
31:40including Italy.
31:41Uh, and then actually Italy turned out,
31:43because then the TV shows went there
31:45and it turned out to be, you know,
31:46one of our most enthusiastic audiences was in Italy.
31:50LAUGHTER
31:51So now there's nowhere you can go on holiday?
31:53Exactly.
31:54OK.
31:55Well, you can see Rowan in Man Vs Baby.
31:58That is on Netflix now.
32:00There you go.
32:01CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
32:02All right.
32:04Right.
32:05Edward Enninghill has the rarest of things.
32:10A new glossy fashion magazine.
32:12It is called 72,
32:14and the winter issue is available in stores and online now,
32:17with two lovely...
32:18Two covers.
32:19Two covers.
32:20Yeah.
32:21Two covers.
32:22So it is extraordinary, a new magazine,
32:23because everyone's saying, oh, magazines are dead,
32:24they're dead and buried.
32:25You obviously say no.
32:27I mean, you know, my whole life I've worked in magazines.
32:31I wanted to set up a media company, EE 72.
32:35And initially I thought, you know what, I'm going to do a platform,
32:37that's what everybody wants, the young generation,
32:39they don't read magazines.
32:40But then everywhere I went, everyone's like,
32:42we hope you're doing a magazine.
32:43So I thought, OK, maybe, why not?
32:46And also, you know, I just wanted to have fun,
32:48I just wanted to create something that people will enjoy reading,
32:50so I thought, why not?
32:51Four times a year.
32:52No, four times a year.
32:53Oh, so it's quarterly.
32:54So this is the winter issue.
32:55Quarterly, yeah.
32:56And why 72?
32:57Do I have to really tell you my age?
33:00You're never 72.
33:02I'm not 72.
33:03I was born in 1972.
33:06I was born in 1972.
33:08I was thinking, he looks marvellous, doesn't he?
33:10I don't mind being 72.
33:12I look good for 72.
33:14Yeah.
33:15Go with that.
33:16Yeah, so it's the year of my birth,
33:17so my initials and the year of my birth.
33:19Oh, OK.
33:20And it's interesting, actually, I keep calling it a fashion magazine,
33:23but actually it covers a lot of things.
33:24It's about culture, yeah.
33:25Yeah.
33:26I mean, I always liked culture, you know, film, music,
33:28architecture, art, for me, was always under the umbrella,
33:31so that's really what this is about, something you can read.
33:34It's also very friendly.
33:36It's not so out there you can't relate to it,
33:38and, yeah, it just felt like the right thing to do right now.
33:42Is it because also you can be together with people in a room?
33:45I love it.
33:46And just be, because you're a creative, aren't you?
33:48Ideas, ideas.
33:49I haven't done that in years.
33:50Yeah, yeah.
33:51Because, you know, when you have sort of a big corporate job,
33:54you spend a lot of time in meetings and Zooms,
33:57but here it's like being in there, you know,
33:59and the kid's telling you,
34:00no, you can't do it like that, you can't say that.
34:03Yeah.
34:04And when you were last year,
34:05you were the man in charge of Vogue,
34:07and when you finally, after six years, said bye-bye to Vogue,
34:11you had this extraordinary cover, which is worth revisiting.
34:14Oh, my God, yeah.
34:15Is it 40 of the greatest female stars in the world,
34:19minus Emma Thompson?
34:20LAUGHTER
34:22You were unavailable.
34:24I tried.
34:25Shush.
34:26I'll speak to you later.
34:28Are they all really there?
34:30They're all there.
34:31I mean, we did the...
34:32When we shot this picture,
34:33I knew that was going to be the question,
34:35so we did a video of all of them at the same time clapping,
34:39and I've known most of them before I started working at Vogue,
34:42and it was just amazing to have them all in the same room.
34:46I hid, I hid, I have to be honest,
34:48at one point I was so sort of overcome with emotion
34:51that I kind of hid.
34:53They couldn't find me.
34:54Yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:55But I'm really, really proud of it.
34:57I mean, yeah, everyone's there.
34:59Is that Oprah in the middle?
35:00Yeah, Oprah, Jane Fonda.
35:01Amazing.
35:02But they've also followed me to my new magazine, so...
35:04That's so true.
35:05I'm very happy about that.
35:06Yeah, yeah.
35:07Did anyone say no, or did everyone say yes?
35:08I mean, everyone said yes.
35:09I mean, a couple of people scheduling couldn't make it.
35:11Emma, Emma.
35:12Emma, Emma, Emma.
35:13Yeah, busy, busy, busy.
35:14I would never forget it.
35:15So busy, I was on my Bible course.
35:16A couple of people couldn't make it.
35:17Yeah.
35:18Yeah.
35:19Timothy, you couldn't make it.
35:20That's true.
35:21Timothy was the first man on the cover of Vogue,
35:24and we did that cover together.
35:25Really?
35:26You were unavailable.
35:27You were shooting.
35:28That's true.
35:29Seriously.
35:30I was playing tail tennis now.
35:31Oh, yeah, yeah.
35:32Everyone on the cover has been on the cover before.
35:34That was the whole idea.
35:35Oh, I see.
35:36Rowan and I...
35:37Well, you're my next cover.
35:38I've shot these two, so you're my next.
35:40OK, what am I going to do?
35:42Yeah, we'll discuss it.
35:44I'm in charge of styling.
35:45OK, yeah.
35:46Knitwear, knitwear.
35:47You can find the latest edition of 72 in shops and online now.
35:53Marvellous.
35:54Right.
35:55It's time for music.
36:00She was just 18 when she burst onto the scene as a member of Little Mix.
36:04Now she's a Brit award-winning solo artist.
36:07Here performing her latest single, Church, it is Jade.
36:11Thank you so much for that epic performance.
36:12That was absolutely beautiful.
36:13Come on up.
36:18Jade, you know Edward, Rowan, Criminby, Emma.
36:19Gang's all here.
36:20I love your bare feet.
36:21Please.
36:22Lovely to see you, Jade.
36:23Hi.
36:24Hi.
36:25Now I know you know Edward because you were in issue one of 72.
36:27Yes.
36:28There you are in some very big shoes.
36:29Those are...
36:30Minnie Mouse.
36:31Minnie Mouse.
36:32Yeah.
36:33And there's someone else on the couch.
36:34Don't...
36:35Don't give it away.
36:36Er...
36:37We've got a clip.
36:38This is Jade.
36:39Now see if you can guess who she's going to transform into.
36:41OK?
36:42Presumably this was a Halloween thing.
36:45Halloween thing, I dressed as one of my favourite.
36:47So, I don't know.
36:48Great.
36:49So, love with Jane.
36:50He's nice to see you as well.
36:51You're over in the office.
36:52You're over in the office.
36:53We've got married, right.
36:54You're over in the office.
36:55And then the place that she's been left, too.
36:57We've got married.
36:58How are you going to watch that?
36:59Do you want to watch that?
37:01What are you doing?
37:02I'm going to watch that.
37:03I'm going to watch that.
37:04Hey, if I want to watch that!
37:05T-shirt dayday.
37:06Okay, so we don't know who could have been, you know, it could have been Willy Wonka. It could have been Nanny McPhee. Mr. Bean. Edward, it's not you.
37:16Different times.
37:24Let's see if we can guess who she's going to transform into. Here we go. No clues so far. No clues.
37:31Look, look at you. This is really impressive. Look at that!
37:37CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
37:41Isn't that good?
37:43Very good.
37:45Thank you. That's my sweet. Goodness me.
37:49Well, I wasn't expecting that.
37:51You're right on. Now, that amazing song you just played, that is off that showbiz baby, The Enchers.
37:57Is this your debut album, but it's a deluxe version? Yes.
38:00It's got eight new tracks on.
38:02CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
38:03I love eight new tracks.
38:04You know, I didn't want to...
38:06I don't do things by halves. It's essentially a new album.
38:09But it's still part of that showbiz baby era.
38:12And lots of new tracks, but there's a Madonna cover on here.
38:15Madonna cover, my favourite Madonna song, Frozen.
38:18Wow. Yeah.
38:19Banger. So that's on there.
38:21And Church, that I just performed, is on there.
38:24Beautiful.
38:25And you have had an amazing year, Jade.
38:28I'm so happy for you.
38:30You know, Glassbury, Radio on the Big Way again.
38:31And, of course, I mentioned in the intro, your solo Brit win.
38:35Yes.
38:36Yes!
38:37CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
38:39Which must have been such a thrill.
38:41Yeah.
38:42Amazing.
38:43And, you know, watching that performance over there, you know,
38:46being thrown away by the dancers, you appear to be fearless.
38:49But in that epic performance at the Brit, Superni, nerves did get to you.
38:54Oh, my gosh.
38:55I was so nervous for the performance.
38:57When I performed Age of My Dreams, in my head, when the beat drops,
39:00there would always be, like, this trapdoor moment.
39:02So I said, yes, I'm going to trapdoor.
39:04I pushed and pushed the label.
39:05We've got to do it.
39:06It'll be epic.
39:07It'll be really good on telly.
39:08Then I got our rehearsals.
39:09The trapdoor, I'm not kidding, was up to this event.
39:12I think we've got a picture of this.
39:13It was so high.
39:14So this is the beginning.
39:15You dressed as the bride.
39:16Yes.
39:17That's your job.
39:18And if you go, look, that is very high.
39:19Yes.
39:20That is very high.
39:21Because they said they needed a good shot of me mid-air, still falling.
39:24So it was really scary.
39:25And that's, like, in the first 10 to 20 seconds of the performance.
39:29So you're going to sing after you've fallen.
39:30Yeah.
39:31And I said, I'm not doing it.
39:32It's too scary.
39:33They were like, we've paid for it now, you're doing it.
39:35So...
39:36Nice.
39:37Yeah.
39:38And on the night, I was so nervous.
39:39I had to climb up the ladder like I was climbing to my desk.
39:41And then I get to the top and I thought, we're on live TV.
39:44And I was like, I can't do it.
39:45Oh, right.
39:46So I turned around, they've removed the ladder and I was like...
39:48LAUGHTER
39:49I can't guess you're doing it then.
39:50But do you know what?
39:51I was grateful because the sheer drop of it, it felt like it just winded the sort of nerves
39:58out of me and the rest was just a blur.
40:00But I still do have, like, a bit of mini PTSD.
40:03So I'll just be walking.
40:04I think I'm going to fall through the table.
40:06LAUGHTER
40:07Honestly, it was such a bizarre feeling, but no more trap doors.
40:10No.
40:11Well, it's a congratulations on the Brit and on everything.
40:15Thank you for that performance and good luck with the deluxe album.
40:17Yeah, they love you, they love you.
40:24That is nearly it before we go.
40:26Just time for a quick visit to the big red chair.
40:28Who have we got?
40:29Hello.
40:30Hi.
40:31I have high hopes for you, young lady.
40:32What's your name?
40:33Megan.
40:34Megan, all right.
40:35Where are you from, Megan?
40:36Originally from Wigan, but I live in Twickenham now.
40:38God is in the details.
40:40What do you do, Megan?
40:44I'm a multimedia content producer.
40:47Sweet Jesus!
40:48It basically means I do social media and I do it for sports.
40:51Marvellous.
40:52OK, off you go with your story.
40:54Come on!
40:55So, I have a lot of stomach problems and I'm missing...
40:58LAUGHTER
40:59That's a great way to start.
41:01And I'm missing a digestive organ and it means that I can often go to the toilet a lot.
41:07And when I was undergoing my diagnosis, we were trying to find loads of recipes that I could eat and not cause grievous bodily harm.
41:14Yes!
41:15And I found this website that was, like, dedicated to people with stomach issues.
41:19And I was like, amazing, fantastic, made some recipes, it was brilliant.
41:22Great.
41:23And then I was back home later for a Christmas party with my mum and, like, a load of family friends and they were asking me after my health.
41:29And I was like, yeah, no, it's going well, I've found this website.
41:32And they said, oh, what's the name of this website?
41:35And I couldn't remember the exact name but I knew one thing.
41:37And it was called the Bottom Friendly Recipe website.
41:40Oh.
41:41And I didn't realise that I just recommended a website to a load of 50-year-old women that was about people who enjoyed anal sex.
41:47And they didn't have some recipes for me!
41:49LAUGHTER
41:52And you, Lung Lady, can walk, well done!
41:55Thank you, thank you!
41:56APPLAUSE
41:57And, OK, that really is all about time, boys.
42:01If you'd like that to go over the road, share yourself and tell your story, you can contact us via our website at this very address.
42:08Please say a huge thank you to all of my guests.
42:10Jade!
42:11CHEERING
42:12Edward Edinburgh!
42:15Rowan Atkinson!
42:18Timothy Chalamet!
42:21And Emma Thompson!
42:23CHEERING
42:24Join me next week with music from Tom O'Dell, comedian and writer Michelle Deswort,
42:29award-winning actor Jesse Buckley and Hollywood comic greats Jack Black and Paul Rudd.
42:35I'll see you then, good night, everybody, bye-bye!
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