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Step inside one of the most disturbing true crime stories of modern America. The Devil You Know (2019) is a chilling Viceland documentary series that investigates the life of Pazuzu Algarad, a self-proclaimed Satanist from North Carolina whose shocking crimes stunned the nation.

This five-part docuseries follows journalist Chad Nance as he uncovers the dark secrets behind Algarad’s cult-like influence, the murders linked to his home, and the devastating impact on the local community.

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The rise of Pazuzu Algarad from eccentric neighbor to feared cult leader

The horrifying discovery of human remains in his backyard

The psychological and social forces that enabled his reign of terror

The tragic consequences for victims, families, and investigators

If you’re fascinated by true crime, cults, and psychological documentaries, this series will leave you questioning how evil can hide in plain sight.

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03:03I miss Pazuzu as he was a long time ago.
03:11So I had a PA system, a really loud, loud speaker system, like real loud.
03:23So now I live in a residential area, and I would love to be loud in a residential area, but I don't want to get evicted.
03:29So I sold the PA, and God traded me for 400 bucks in this area.
03:33Yeah, the lava.
03:35There is good and evil.
03:38Trust me, there's good and evil.
03:38It's like love and hate.
03:40If you love somebody, you love somebody.
03:41If you hate somebody, you hate somebody, you know it.
03:43Maybe I hate, maybe I hate, maybe I don't want to be evil, but maybe I don't like a lot of people.
03:53I think the community got off on what Pazuzu was doing, and they're still getting off on it.
03:59The government used me.
04:00The government used me.
04:01There's a whole lot of people that are skating around this thing that I have questions about.
04:14And now that he's gone, they're starting to pick up on these people.
04:18They're going to make somebody pay for this.
04:21And now it's not going to be him.
04:31Jenna and I got in trouble for stealing some comic books.
04:39That's a new charge.
04:42It's a probation violation for me.
04:44I have to go to court for it tomorrow.
04:46And I'm kind of worried that this Pazuzu crap might come back up now that Pazuzu's dead.
04:56Knowing about a murder and not saying anything about it,
05:00I'm pretty sure that's a criminal charge.
05:03I'm scared of getting nailed for some shit that I had nothing to do with.
05:12I was so focused for most of that time on getting high and staying high
05:19that when you don't have it, you get sick.
05:23So you physically need more just to feel well, just to feel normal.
05:30I'm trying to...
05:58I'm trying to go score some drugs somehow and then head to Winston
06:04so I can stay the night at my mom's and go to court in the morning.
06:10And we have no money.
06:12I could call my grandma and ask her for money for clothes and gas to get out there.
06:33I mean, honestly, I think I've got something here that I can wear, but...
06:39I guess it's worth a shot.
06:44Hey, Noni.
06:45Hey, Noni.
06:46Hey, what's going on?
06:47You know, I've got court tomorrow, and...
06:53I'm looking for my suit, and I cannot find any of my dress clothes.
07:01Oh, my!
07:02What do you think they are?
07:04I don't know, but I don't have any cash right now, and I need clothes for court.
07:13I was wondering if there's any way I could borrow a little money.
07:17I don't have it right now, Nate.
07:21You know, I explained to you that I've got a car payment, and...
07:25Uh, I'm sorry. I want to help, but I can't.
07:30I know. It's okay.
07:31I love you, sweetie.
07:32I love you, too, Noni.
07:33See you next time tomorrow.
07:36All right. Bye-bye.
07:37Bye.
07:41Yeah.
07:44A lot of shit on my plate right now, and I'm not really equipped to handle it.
07:51There was something about all the investigation they just didn't want us to know about.
07:55We had heard from corrections officers off the record that Pazuzu had been trying to bite through his arm.
08:11We often, as Americans, like to listen to the narrative of the police and the court system
08:18and the education system, and the reason we like to do that is we like to think that those systems
08:24are working for us.
08:27In North Carolina, our justice system has made it really difficult for the public
08:30to ever peel back the veil and see what really went on.
08:33My name's Brad Stanley. I'm the Chief Deputy Sheriff here at Preside County Sheriff's Office.
08:47This morning, the Sheriff's Office was notified that Pazuzu Algarod had died while they're at Central
08:54Prison in Raleigh. Mr. Algarod was discovered shortly after 3 a.m. He was unresponsive and had
09:02a wound to one of his arms. Mr. Algarod was sent to the Adult Corrections Central Prison on a
09:09safekeeping order. That order has subsequently been sealed, so we cannot discuss any of the specifics
09:16contained within that order. Are there any questions?
09:22Law enforcement, in my experience, um, is not going to tell you a lot.
09:27Is there anything to indicate that anybody else could have done this thing besides
09:31Algarod himself? Um, that would have to be,
09:35that we don't have that information at this point.
09:37Was there any suspicious activity leading up to his death?
09:40But I would have to refer any of those specifics to those folks.
09:43They're not going to talk about motive. They're not going to talk about nothing.
09:49I don't have that information. That would have to come from, uh, corrections.
09:53There was something about all the investigation
09:56that they did throughout the whole thing that they just didn't want us to know about.
09:59Are you saying basically that other than this, you cannot answer any questions?
10:03We don't have that information. And the safekeeping order that was sealed
10:07by a steering court judge, so we cannot speak to them.
10:10Who asked for if we're sealed?
10:11Uh, I don't have that information, Scott. I'm sorry.
10:16What we know from the autopsy and from what prison officials have said is that he used some
10:23kind of instrument to cut himself. And what they said is they don't know exactly what kind
10:28of instrument it was.
10:29Pazuzu was held first in Forsyth County jail. We had heard from corrections officers off the record
10:35and from other inmates that Pazuzu had been trying to bite through his arm and trying to do so rather
10:40dramatically on a full moon. He was transferred out of there because he had been biting himself there.
10:45They found the guy in an eight by 10 cell and they found all of his other personal effects,
10:56so it's kind of hard to understand how they possibly couldn't find the weapon.
10:59He gets sent away from the Forsyth County Detention Center because they say they can't take care of the guy
11:09because he keeps trying to kill himself and they can't stop him from doing it. So the people in
11:13central prison know what he's apt to do. Somehow he gets time to be alone long enough to chew into his
11:18arm enough to bleed to death.
11:20It's very important to understand in North Carolina that the Department of Public Safety oversees the
11:25Department of Corrections. So when there's an incident such as the suicide of John Lawson,
11:29they're tasked with investigating wrongdoings in an organization that they're also managing,
11:34which seems like a conflict of interest. Our lovely state government got rid of the Dorothea
11:39Dick's Forensics Unit, which is where we used to send people with mental illness.
11:44We are slashing budgets from the national to the state on mental health care.
11:48What it does is it puts all the burden back on the corrections officers to deal with people with
11:54serious mental illness. And in the prison system about 2,500 open jobs that they can't fill because
12:00the jobs don't pay crap. They're super dangerous and nobody wants to do that stuff even in these
12:05little towns where they're economically depressed.
12:18It was a Wednesday morning around 11 o'clock. I had a message from Detective Meadows.
12:33And I thought it was really odd because I had not talked to him since they'd found Josh.
12:42He said, I just wanted you to know that they found Pazuzu dead in his jail cell this morning.
12:55I didn't really feel a lot. It was almost like, well, you know, he was in jail waiting for
13:05people to decide whether they were going to kill him or just leave him there for the rest of his life.
13:10I don't feel like I got the answers that I wanted. And I don't know that I will.
13:22So what happened to Pazuzu doesn't really change anything for us. But I do find it ironic that we're
13:29moving into a house that loosely fits the description of the one that he and his friends hung out in.
13:41We are pretty much broke. We've been moving from place to place.
13:47You know, I think it could be a decent house. However, the tenants that were in this house
13:52before me, the neighbor, so they did a lot of drugs, which I would definitely believe.
13:58Just filthy, disgusting. Just, you know, the mold, the hair, the cat shit everywhere.
14:05It's appalling. For some reason I didn't bring paper towels, but this is the day for paper towels.
14:19I actually never cleaned a toilet with a Brillo pad before, but in this case...
14:24Oh, God. Somebody used it after the water was turned off.
14:29Ah, must have been the painters.
14:37Oh, my God. My child has had to move around a lot. He's not a sad child, but he's got this
14:48quietness about him. It's almost like he's observing the world instead of engaging in it.
14:54Um, I don't know why the case went unsolved for five years. It just, it seems like the police just
15:03didn't do their job, and maybe if we could prove that, we could get back some of the money that
15:09Jared was entitled to, and we wouldn't have to keep moving into these shitholes.
15:13I went to court. An attorney takes me to the side, told me that he's like, you know,
15:21you're probably going to be arrested today. I walked out of the courtroom, left the courthouse,
15:26and went on the run.
15:33The investigation in Pazuzu's death is closed without any clear answers. The authorities say it's a suicide,
15:38but they don't know exactly how to kill themselves. And the prison system goes on to suffer zero
15:42repercussions.
15:49October 29, 2015, Cynthia Lawson claims John's body. He's put in Salem Funeral Home downtown,
15:57and as far as we know, Salem refused to be involved in any services for him,
16:01and refused to have anything to do with it other than cremating the body. But isn't that, in a way,
16:08us not asking questions? We're perfectly happy to listen to the local newsman talk about evil. Oh,
16:14it's evil. It can't be the guns. It can't be his mental health issues. It's evil. You know what?
16:19Evil doesn't exist. In the end, John Lawson is a lost little kid, and he's ashes in a box in the
16:27basement of a funeral home in a small city in North Carolina. He has been absolutely marginalized,
16:33reduced to dust. All because the community he was a part of ignored the signs that he desperately
16:38needed help. It just seems to me no one did anything real to intervene.
16:42I went to court and, you know, thought that I could get my lawyer to, you know,
16:55get me out of any jail time somehow.
17:04It was like this crippling, paralyzing fear. Like, I was having this, like,
17:08intense internal conversation with myself. Like, you need to go face this, you need to man up,
17:16but I really just wanted to run and go continue getting high. I didn't want anything to interfere
17:22with that. You know, I go in there and my attorney takes me to the side, you know, to talk to me like
17:32they always do before, before you go up and see the judge. And, um, he told me that he's like,
17:38you know, you're probably going to be arrested today. I told him that I needed to use the bathroom
17:44real quick. And, uh, I already knew what I was going to do. So I walked out of the courtroom,
17:52left the courthouse, and, uh, and went on the run.
18:22It's been a rough month. I understand, man. I go through, I'll be having two.
18:40Yeah.
18:47Y'all have a good one. Hope everything work out for y'all.
18:53Five o'clock somewhere.
18:55I believe in him as a strong individual. And if anything goes down with him, I'm there.
19:02You know, my family is his family. You know, we've got each other's backs.
19:09One thing I do worry about is he's been drinking too much. I think he's a very strong human being.
19:15Uh, I think he knows how to handle his shit. Except for when he doesn't know how to handle his
19:23shit. And, you know, I think that's a lot of, a lot of times he makes rash decisions.
19:27How much do we got stacked up on it right now? Like 50-something bucks.
19:32I got 50 bucks. I know. That's it.
19:35Yeah, I don't have anything, dude. I'm living paycheck to paycheck.
19:39$400 a month goes towards your sister. $200 a month, 200 or more goes towards taxes.
19:45$200 more goes towards my, uh, insurance. And then I'm left with changed. Hey, go live off that.
19:53So, yeah. I really think that the lack of paycheck has a lot to do with the regret of drinking too much.
19:59Everyone's got an escape. Everyone's got an escape.
20:10Yeah, I remember when Cheryl and I were together, the first six months, man, I paid every bill.
20:14Water, electricity, rent, insurance, ADT, internet. It was like $2,000 a month.
20:22I'm still alive. I'll get it taken care of, man.
20:25Because he's his deaf ear. That's just a silent subject.
20:35Yep, I'm good now.
20:44When he says he doesn't want to talk about something, he doesn't talk about it. So, we just don't bring it up.
20:49There's, there's, there's limits you stretch yourself emotionally on, you know?
20:57You view this person as your homie, and then you have to turn him in.
21:01You know? I could see him being, feeling guilty.
21:05Hey Meredith, this is Antoine. Is there a marriage around?
21:14I haven't gone to the hospital. I don't feel good.
21:20I'm out of my medication. I can't afford it. It's, it's been a rough week.
21:27All right. All right, bye.
21:29All right. Cool. That was easy.
21:37Take insulin?
21:39I've been at it all day, taking insulin. This is not the right insulin.
21:43I don't have the proper medication to keep me balanced, because I can't afford it.
21:49Well, are we going to the hospital?
21:50Yeah.
21:52Now the story moves on, but the story doesn't move on with him. It's now about the people who
21:56are affected by the things that John Lawson did while he was alive. Yeah, I guess a good way to look
22:01at it is Pazuzu pulled the pin on a grenade and stood amongst a crowd of people and blew up. He has
22:08shrapnel wounds throughout the circle. It's a cycle of violence.
22:22This is a prepaid collect call from Nathan Anderson, an inmate at Forsyth County Detention Center.
22:29The judge, um, he fit into me to six to 17 months. I started to really worry about having to be sick all
22:43the time, you know, struggling just to come up with a little bit of money. You know, up until I got
22:50arrested, at least 60-70% of our income for heroin came from shit that I was doing, you know.
23:01I love you, Nate, with all my heart, my broken, self-destructive heart.
23:05I feel so guilty that I'm on the outside. I hate how much I miss you when you're gone. I hate being
23:14a junkie, but at the same time there's a part of me that doesn't want to let it go. I'm sorry I missed
23:20some of your calls. I wasn't trying to avoid you, but I'm still on the outside so I have things that
23:26I have to do. It's not easy getting money without you. I have to do shit that I really don't want to do.
23:32I don't think there's much else that could possibly be worse than what has already happened to me.
23:45So I don't understand why I haven't hit bottom yet.
23:48Pazuzu's mother, Cynthia James, actually observed she was present for both murders.
23:59Very disturbing that his mother, Pazuzu's mother, saw it happen and proceeded to get ready for work.
24:05With Clemens, like a lot of suburbs around America, what you have is this, you know, this facade of
24:22Disney-fied suburban sameness. And underneath, you've got this roiling underbelly of darkness,
24:29drug addiction, and despair, and hopelessness.
24:38The last thing you want to tell the ladies over at the megachurch when we're at the ladies' auxiliary
24:42rummage sale is that I caught my son shooting heroin up between his big toe and his little toe,
24:46and I can't figure out why. I came in on my daughter, she was passed out in the bath tub face
24:51down, because she figured at least if she went out and nodded off that way, she'd vomit not choke on it.
24:54You know, these aren't the stories you tell the ladies down at the beauty parlor when you go down
25:00to get your teas and friends.
25:05Gotta find a way to sell more subs.
25:09I'm actually going to an IOP, which is an intensive outpatient program, and taking,
25:16uh, or supposed to be taking Suboxone, um, to stay clean, and I'm not.
25:21I sell the Suboxone mostly, so I can get drugs.
25:26Hey, did you ever talk to your girl about wanting those subs?
25:29Hey, do y'all know anybody that, uh, needs any Suboxone?
25:33Man, why does nobody need Suboxone? You're all junkies. You know you need it.
25:39What's up, dude?
25:46Can you give me three for 52?
25:48Yeah, that's fine.
25:52You're welcome.
25:53God, that mother pisses me off.
25:56He's like, I got 52.
25:57You're supposed to be 60.
25:59And I'm so desperate, because I'm a junkie, that I'm like, fine.
26:02I went on this website. It's called What's Your Price?
26:11Guys will give you a price to, like, take you on a date.
26:15Sometimes I can get, like, 100 bucks just for going on a date.
26:20I don't know.
26:21Like, I've never, ever in my life, like, had sex with somebody for money.
26:30Like, I have a guy that I go and see when Nate doesn't know.
26:33He's like an old man.
26:36I haven't had sex with him yet, but, like, I've messed around with him.
26:40I just wanted to leave. I just wanted it to be over with.
26:44I was texting him to see if I could meet him, but I think he's doing something with his grandson.
26:57I really thought they were going to go after the death penalty with Lawson,
27:01and they would allow Amber Burst to turn States.
27:05In a normal case like this, someone like Amber could turn and give States evidence on Pazuzu,
27:10and then she possibly could get considerations that will keep her out of the gas chamber and life in prison.
27:16Pazuzu murdering himself took every option off the table that Amber Burst had in this case.
27:21Amber's in the center of the bullseye on this case,
27:23and she's in the center of the public's need for retribution.
27:33Amber Burst's involvement in the murders and improper burials of two men at this Clemens home
27:37began in July of 2009. Detectives say the first victim was Joshua Wetzler. He'd have been living in
27:43the home of devil worshiper Pazuzu Algorod until Algorod shot and killed him and hit his body in the
27:49basement. Algorod called Birch, his girlfriend, and she came up from South Carolina to help bury
27:54Wetzler.
27:55When Josh and Tommy were discovered, the DA met with the families, and they told us they were going to
28:00fill us in on everything that was going to happen at the trial, and it's been two and a half years since
28:06they found Josh. And all this time, you know, we kept asking, when is there going to be an
28:11indictment? When is there going to be a trial? And we never were contacted with any information.
28:17Finally, two years after the bodies are found in the backyard at Nob Hill,
28:21Amber Birch takes a plea deal and finally appears in court to answer for what she's done.
28:26They look vastly different than when they were arrested. I know, I can tell you that.
28:30I don't know why, I don't know what happened, but they look vastly different.
28:35Amber Birch, your name is Amber Nicole Birch.
28:38Yes, your name is Amber Birch.
28:39You understand, you're taking the guilty police, so you're starting.
28:41Yes, ma'am.
28:43All right, thank you.
28:43It came out of Amber's plea that when the police
29:11detective showed up at Nob Hill to do the search in 2014, she folded like a lawn chair.
29:16She rolled on Pazuzu and she told him everything she knew. And that is probably what saved her from
29:21getting the death penalty.
29:22Do you know whether Amber Birch was present when Josh was murdered?
29:26No, Bob.
29:28There were some things that I did not know about.
29:33I didn't even know that Amber wasn't there when Josh was murdered.
29:36When she arrived, she was arrived to the deep and present body of Josh.
29:39It was almost in a modified state. There was still body tissue there.
29:43It appears that...
29:44I found out that his body actually was in the basement for several days.
29:50Pazuzu's mother, Cynthia James, actually observed she was present for both murders.
29:56Of Josh Wessler and Tommy Welch.
29:58I found out that Pazuzu shot Josh in front of his mother.
30:05That was all really disturbing, just to imagine that.
30:08The biggest bombshell was the fact that the mother was present at both murders.
30:13We have this image of Pazuzu's mother getting ready to go to work.
30:18And she hears some kind of shot.
30:21And she comes out and she sees her son holding a gun toward Josh Wessler.
30:29And she immediately goes back and continues getting ready for work.
30:33And then comes back out and is headed out the door.
30:38And Pazuzu's like, okay, I'm going to go ahead and finish him off.
30:44Which is just chilling.
30:46We had information that Joshua had been staying there for some time.
30:49It was estimated that Joshua had been staying there prior to his death.
30:54I don't know if I'll ever know the details of kind of what brought him there
30:57or why he would have hung out with them.
31:00They definitely did not seem like his usual crowd.
31:03The defendant agrees to plead guilty of the second degree murder.
31:06Accessory after the fact to the first degree murder.
31:09And robbery with a dangerous weapon.
31:11Do you now personally plead guilty to the charges I just described?
31:15Part of me was looking forward to the trial so that I would get more answers.
31:25I don't feel like I got the answers that I wanted.
31:33So I'm assuming that you heard a lot of the details that were released today prior to their release.
31:39No, actually, no, I had not heard much of that before.
31:45Very disturbing.
31:46Very disturbing that his mother, Pazuzu's mother, saw it happen and proceeded to get ready for work.
31:53And that blows my mind, you know, wires her accountability.
32:03I am going to be going over to this guy's house to sleep with him for 200 bucks.
32:10I mean, I'm a little concerned because he was like talking about weird fantasies that he has.
32:16Amber gets put away for 30 plus years. Justice has been served.
32:26But I mean, does anything really change for the victims or society at large, for that matter?
32:30Or do we all just continue to do as we did before, happily going about our business,
32:35forgetting all those people whose lives have spiraled out of control and are on the brink of despair?
32:46I was my mom.
33:00I was telling her I wanted to go eat dinner, but I'm not really going to eat dinner.
33:07One of the shitty sides of things, I'm not the type of person that likes to lie,
33:13especially my mother, because she's helped me out a lot.
33:17At 8.30, I'm going to be going over to this guy's house for an hour
33:30to sleep with him for 200 bucks so I can get some more shit.
33:39I mean, I'm a little concerned because he was like talking about weird fantasies that he has,
33:49kind of creepy.
33:51If I don't get clean, I'll probably end up dying.
33:55I don't even know if it'll necessarily be from drugs.
33:58Some kind of situation where I have my throat cut or something.
34:06The things that you have to do to get drugs, it sucks.
34:09I feel like there's a good person in me.
34:12Like, I believe in women respecting their bodies.
34:15I believe in people respecting themselves in general.
34:21And I feel like I'm choosing heroin.
34:25To be or not to be, that's the question.
34:28Whether it's tis nobler of the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
34:32or to take arms against a sea of troubles and by opposing in them,
34:36to die, to sleep.
34:37To sleep no more perchance to say we dream.
34:41See, I can't remember.
34:43I know what it's all about though.
34:44If I take a switchblade and slip my wrist, I'm going to die.
34:47But when I die, then maybe it'll go on for eternity.
34:51I'll just keep going on and on and still suffering.
34:54So there's no point in killing myself.
34:55That's what it all boils down to.
35:08I always drink.
35:15I have PTSD.
35:15I drink.
35:16That's what we sleep.
35:18People just don't get it.
35:20You go to war, it like changes you.
35:21PTSD is weird.
35:24It's like I don't feel shit.
35:25I don't feel fear.
35:26I don't feel nothing.
35:28Nothing at all.
35:28Most of the time I just get completely numb.
35:30This is hilarious.
35:32Let's do this.
35:38So there's one.
35:41Yeah, I love that shit.
35:42I don't care.
35:48There's one.
35:50Yep, one more.
35:52Got to get it hot again.
35:55When I like left, I was like, I thought I would feel
36:02something.
36:03I think I was just so numb to it.
36:07Yeah, I love that shit.
36:10I mean, he was choking me pretty hard.
36:15Choking me and like punching me in my ribs.
36:18And then he offered me a glass of wine afterwards.
36:28I'm going to get drugs, lots of drugs.
36:43And I'll feel better about everything.
36:54And it doesn't really matter what I've done.
36:55I'm alone in this world.
37:00I'm alone in this world.
37:03I'm alone, I'm alone in this, this world.
37:07I got a lot of family members that passed away.
37:10My uncle killed himself.
37:12I mean, I get down too.
37:13You know, it's like, dude, like sometimes I want to die.
37:15I want to kill myself and shit.
37:16But I just think about it, you know, it's like.
37:18I think this is what I've been after all day.
37:27And it'll be gone in like 30 minutes.
37:35It's, it's love in a needle.
37:37Like you feel like somebody's like hugging you,
37:39is there for you always and won't leave you.
37:41You lean into it and you just like nod off.
37:46But if you do too much and you're unconscious,
37:49like you need somebody to like punch you and like bring you back.
37:55So that like you're slipping away if you're unconscious.
38:02My dad actually told my mom, like, I think it's time we give up.
38:07I think it's time we just let her go.
38:20I look up and it's midnight and my son's standing there in the door.
38:25His face looks swollen and his eyes are bugged out.
38:29That's not your kid.
38:3035 year old Pazuzu Algorod.
38:38Pazuzu Algorod.
38:39Pazuzu Algorod.
38:40Pazuzu Algorod, an accused Satan worshiper and murderer.
38:44Once you acknowledge the shooter, once you acknowledge the killer.
38:47Okay, we've acknowledged that.
38:49We've acknowledged the crime.
38:50Now let's move on.
38:51Let's don't run headlines every day that say Satan is Pazuzu Algorod.
38:55And you don't run headlines that say decent guy, Tommy Welsh disappears.
38:59You don't run the headlines saying father and partner and struggling human being Josh
39:04Weschler disappears.
39:05We don't ever hear that.
39:06We hear Satan is Pazuzu Algorod.
39:08Devil worshiping, animal sacrifices, mold, animal feces, filth all happened inside that
39:13house in Clemens where human remains were discovered.
39:16I got to be honest.
39:18I don't think that anything an individual reporter can do or even in this world we can
39:22do is actually change how media because media is going to do what media does.
39:26And they're going to do it the way they do it.
39:28And the reason they do it isn't because they're fundamentally bad people.
39:31It's because the people out there, that's what you want to see.
39:33You want to see the blood.
39:35You want to see the swelling.
39:36You want to see the pain.
39:37What we did at CCD was important.
39:45We did some damage.
39:46We took out some politicians.
39:48People lost their jobs.
39:50So yeah, we feel like we made a dent.
39:55Losing CCD was one of the hardest decisions we had to ever make together.
39:58And when you see a dream like that fall apart, it is devastating on many levels.
40:06I mean, I clung to my family because my family was the only thing that seemed to be stable.
40:11And you know, a lot of what that Pazuzu story was about is hitting home here at the house because
40:15my own son has started getting into trouble.
40:22And you know, I hate to say it, but if Pazuzu's house was in my neighborhood,
40:24I think the boy would be hanging out down right there with the rest of them.
40:28You know, it's hard to know where to turn.
40:32And it's really, you know, it reiterated for me that we all need to help each other more,
40:36support each other more, if we're going to prevent this stuff from happening.
40:47You know, you feel like we're the Brady Bunch, man.
40:50We're like that family, that nuclear family you're supposed to be.
40:52And still I'm sitting on my back porch, which is kind of my sanctum.
40:57And I look up and it's midnight and my son's standing there in the window, in the door.
41:03And he's looking through it and his face looks swollen and he's sweaty.
41:09And his eyes are bugged out and they're not jaunice, but they're bloodshot.
41:14And it's not your kid.
41:21And he's completely incoherent and mumbling.
41:25And I walk him to bed and I put him into bed and I tuck him in like I did.
41:30Who knows how many times I've tucked that kid in.
41:32And I put the blanket up on him and he goes, shh, baby.
41:35And he goes, are you mad at me today?
41:36That's all he said.
41:36Are you mad at me?
41:37You're upset.
41:38And I'm saying, I'm not, I'm not upset right now.
41:40No, that's, that's, we're not going to deal with that right now.
41:42I love you.
41:43I love you.
41:45Go to sleep.
41:49And every day I drive him to school by himself.
41:52And so we're going to school that morning and we're driving.
41:56And he asked me, he said, dad, why do you hate me so much?
42:01Like, I don't hate you.
42:01I told you last night I loved you when, you know, this awful thing's going on.
42:06He said, no, why are you so mad at me though?
42:07He said, you really seem mad at me.
42:09And I said, I am mad at you.
42:12I'm angry at you because I want to know what you did with my son.
42:17Because you're not the person I know.
42:19Because that guy that came up on the porch with the bug eyes and all that,
42:22I don't know that guy.
42:26I don't know what you did with him.
42:36He's not a little boy to touch.
42:37I don't know what you did with him.
42:46Man, I don't know what you did with him.
42:52And he had no response.
42:54And I dropped him off from school.
42:55What was it that was in the search warrants that needed to continue to be sealed?
43:11Mike Hewlett's been able to get these search warrants shaking loose.
43:14Signals have been missed.
43:16Bad jobs have been done.
43:17People have been hurt.
43:19I tried to tell them, but they didn't listen.
43:21And they told me, you know, to go look in a ditch.
43:24It's like, he's just another dead black one gone.
43:27I contacted Cynthia.
43:29He wasn't by any means an angel.
43:32I just want to have good memories of my son.
43:35With each shot I took, like, I just wished that it would be the one that killed me.
43:39I couldn't get hold of Jenna several days.
43:42I was wigging out about it.
43:44I woke up at seven o'clock in the morning with the doctor in my face telling me I was
43:48five weeks pregnant.
43:49I used to fantasize about killing Pazuzu ourselves.
43:52It could have saved two lives.
43:53I've always been a coward.
43:55And I told the detective, you guys don't do anything about it.
43:57I'm going to kill Pazuzu.
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