Sean Combs- The Reckoning - Season 1 Episode 01- Pain vs Love
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00:00:00Things are happening, and it's like, I want to fight for my life.
00:00:12I want to fight for, you know, justice, not guilty.
00:00:15I want to have a life to be able to live.
00:00:18You know, it's really going to be hard for me to take more hits
00:00:21than I take it, God forbid, get in front of a jury and have a chance.
00:00:27And so I'm having this emergency call because something has to give.
00:00:31We need the core theme to be, you didn't do anything wrong.
00:00:35You know, you didn't do anything wrong on any front.
00:00:37And you've come to New York to face things head on.
00:00:41If anyone's ever paying any attention to what you've actually been doing,
00:00:45you've handled this with complete honor.
00:00:49I don't think it's working. I've listened.
00:00:53I've been a superb client, as you said.
00:00:56I jumped on a plane. I'm coming to New York.
00:00:58But I'm just, like, I'm just running around waiting for a shooter drop.
00:01:05We're losing sight of the big picture, man.
00:01:08It's the middle of September, and there's still no indictment.
00:01:11That's...
00:01:12No, bro, then you have to have a spokesman.
00:01:15You have to have some sort of comms to constantly be pushing that mark.
00:01:19Because you may just be a person that just does...
00:01:21You just may watch CNN. You know what I'm saying?
00:01:24And there's, like, there's 9 billion people in the world.
00:01:26And 7 billion of them is on Instagram and TikTok.
00:01:31And so you at the wrong place looking to see what the people with the possible jurors are thinking.
00:01:37We have to find somebody that'll work with us, whether they're from this country or from another country.
00:01:43It could be somebody that has dealt in the dirtiest of dirtiest, dirty business of media and propaganda.
00:01:52I've seen the media portray me like I'm a gangster, or at times I'm a cold individual, or I'm just a shrewd businessman, which is just not the case.
00:02:11I'm a dreamer. I love closing my eyes and dreaming. I don't really deal with reality.
00:02:16You know, I think that you're a great guy, a great role model.
00:02:18Diddy P. Papa. Papa Diddy Pop.
00:02:21I'm sorry, I don't know what you're calling yourself these days.
00:02:23The American dream come true. Thank you, America.
00:02:27It's like we have a movie and you're speaking this language and, you know what I'm saying, we need subtitles.
00:02:32And we're not providing the audience for subtitles.
00:02:34And I invited you to this movie and you and this thing, you don't know what's going on.
00:02:38You just see, you just see the images, you know, quickly.
00:02:43Now, it has a whole life of its own.
00:02:44The Department of Homeland Security conducting a raid at a house connected to Sean.
00:02:55Breaking news, another woman is accusing Sean Diddy Holmes of sexual assault.
00:02:58Trafficking, forced labor, kidnapping.
00:03:00The fourth lawsuit in the last five weeks.
00:03:02The fifth lawsuit.
00:03:03The seventh lawsuit.
00:03:04There are now more than a dozen civil cases.
00:03:05Conduct that does indeed span two decades.
00:03:07I'm taking eight nuclear bombs, you know what I'm saying, straight to the head.
00:03:12And I'm tired of, I'm tired of going back and forth with y'all with the lawyers.
00:03:16That's, that's, that's just not true.
00:03:17Okay, so, so, so, so, so, so, so.
00:03:19Let me, let me.
00:03:20No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:03:21Let me, let me tell you something.
00:03:22Let me, let me, let me say this.
00:03:23I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a referee.
00:03:26So I'm going to get off the phone right now.
00:03:28Listen to me.
00:03:29I'm going to get off the phone right now.
00:03:31And I am going to let you professionals look at the situation and come back to me with a solution.
00:03:37No matter what, no matter what nobody said.
00:03:40Let's, let's just, here and there, y'all are not working together the right way.
00:03:43We're losing.
00:04:10Let's just get little cutaways of them looking for the, you know what I'm saying?
00:04:11That's what I'm saying.
00:04:12That's what I'm saying.
00:04:13Yeah.
00:04:14Let's get little cutaways of them, like looking from the, you know what I'm saying?
00:04:17That's what I said.
00:04:19yeah just get little cutaways of them like looking from the you know what i'm saying that's what
00:04:49all of us got to go to the maker and we will be held accountable for the things we did and we didn't do
00:04:57sean combs is an asshole he is the you're not gonna like and you're not gonna get the
00:05:05along with if he doesn't get his way he quickly became my hero
00:05:19if y'all had a chance to meet this guy yes you would be like this nigger's energy is everything
00:05:25i gotta get up and go i gotta get up and do it what's next what's next i gotta get it i'm not
00:05:32gonna stay down he was presenting this freedom that black people hadn't had like we hadn't experienced
00:05:42a black man being able to say i don't want that i don't want no problems with your clawing hey yo
00:05:46dog what are you talking about you telling me like i'm on some bullshit i ain't doing no
00:05:49bullshit with you so when i first met him he quickly became the guy i wanted to be like
00:05:58when you're a leader in that way it's admirable until you get to the point where you want to
00:06:03control everyone around you he got to that point what y'all wanna do wanna be ballers shot callers
00:06:14it's like scarface the movie i want the world and everything that's in it but you got everything
00:06:21hey y'all new york we did it harlem we did it monday we did it it was a mantra that sean had
00:06:30nobody's gonna be bigger than me sean is the one percent of the one percent of the one percent
00:06:36we'll never see a sean in my lifetime again ever it was like the more money he got the more power he
00:06:44got the more power he got the more money he got and he always felt like money can get him out of
00:06:51everything i do feel it's important that we let the public know from the juror's standpoint just kind
00:06:58of how we um reach the verdict it's not everything that the media has put it out to be
00:07:07you want to put stuff in my fanny back he's creating a narrative always
00:07:17he is the best storyteller in hip-hop he thinks he's black superman i can do what i want
00:07:25you can't go on for long in life doing the things that he was doing before something eventually happens
00:07:31you can't continue to keep hurting people and nothing never happens
00:07:42it's just a matter of time
00:07:49is it good to be back in new york
00:07:52it's always good to be back
00:07:55once upon a time not long ago when people wore pajamas and lived life slow
00:07:59willows were stern and justice stood and people were behaving like they ought to good
00:08:05how you change the kid go ahead
00:08:09the little boy who was misled by another little boy and this is what he said
00:08:14me and you time we're gonna make some cash robbing old folks and making the dance
00:08:22i was there from the very beginning with the invention of sean combs
00:08:27i co-founded bad boy with sean i was dazzled by his ideas and his unique talent
00:08:39but he was a very different sean combs back then
00:08:48sean was 19 when he dropped out of howard university he wanted to be in the flashy swaggy music industry
00:08:56he started off dancing wanting to be in videos
00:09:10wanting to be a pop culture mover and shaker at a time where things were changing
00:09:16like hip hop was evolving like it or not rap is here to stay it has become part of mainstream commerce
00:09:26it was just explosive run dmc chaos one public enemy rock him the late 80s it was fantastic
00:09:42there were a lot of independent labels that gave birth to hip-hop in the way that we know it today
00:09:48what is this new music
00:09:56like uptown records
00:10:04heavy d was the biggest rapper signed to uptown
00:10:07excuse me we got heavy d in the house with us today thanks for coming down
00:10:11you could be with the hardest cats in the hood you could rock heavy d you with your grandmother in
00:10:15the car you ain't got to reach for the radio and turn it off
00:10:18we called him the official mayor of money earning mount vernon
00:10:22now vernon is in westchester county the first city outside of the bronx heavy d put that area on the map
00:10:41and his influence reached all the young people in the neighborhood including the young sean combs
00:10:49who was at mount st michael high school a catholic private school he would knock on heavy d's door
00:10:58every day to see if heavy would take him to meet andre harrell
00:11:06andre was the champagne of rap and he took the streets to wall street the only entrance into hip-hop at
00:11:17that point was andre harrell and russell simmons into the corporate hip-hop world into the money
00:11:25sean had impressed andre enough to give him an internship and that was the beginning
00:11:33i worked with sean as an intern at uptown i'm a picture i'm blade out for you
00:11:39when you thought of uptown records you thought of heavy d and i'll be sure
00:11:50i was the first number one artist on the billboard charts on uptown and the first platinum artist
00:11:57on the uptown label he was a gq nigga you know he was a real penny loafers type
00:12:03he was one of them fly light-skinned niggas and girls loved him
00:12:12al was dating kim
00:12:16kim porter kim is at the receptionist desk at uptown you get out the elevator first person you see is kim
00:12:23and it was a beautiful sight everybody said that you know what i mean but when sean saw kim
00:12:34it was different and now sean's always at the receptionist desk begging kim for something
00:12:42a date a kiss he put it all on the table for kim
00:12:46it was weird it was weird in the air because everyone knew this was al's girl
00:12:54al is hot as fish grease right now hi this is al be sure here's my exclusive number two dollars for
00:13:01the first minute 45 cents for each additional minute and sean was not really like the catch
00:13:06he didn't drink alcohol he forbade marijuana he did not like drugs he had the gumby and he looked like
00:13:17a scholastic dweeb but sean was still determined i bet you i could get kim and he was like nah no way
00:13:26that you your weight ain't even up enough yet but when sean wants something he's gonna get it
00:13:33it might be a couple of years from now but sooner or later he's gonna get it
00:13:40andre harrell heavy d i'll be sure they had all the money and all the power and i was like
00:13:46i don't know what they did but that's what i want to do
00:13:51i got to uptown a few months after sean did and i saw him being built into cool
00:13:58we had to go through the uptown flavor camp
00:14:06i learned a lot quickly being in front of willie burgers on 145th and a4 being at the rooftop
00:14:13the fashion the walk the talk the attitude the drive the determination i was ready to do whatever it
00:14:21took to win the young sean combs during that time he was so tenacious you would ask him to turn
00:14:29wednesday into tuesday he was set about doing it first task we had given him to just go get a tape
00:14:3710 blocks away he came back in two minutes or something crazy and i remember i was on the phone
00:14:42i looked up when he came back i was like how'd you get there so fast and he said i ran there and back
00:14:49right then and there i said oh okay yeah i didn't know then that that was never gonna stop to run there
00:14:57and run back he ingratiated himself to andre and made himself very valuable something that you don't
00:15:05want to do without like who's going to get my clothes who's going to armor on my tire this is so
00:15:10convenient then they lived together i bought the first million dollar house funny that that weekend
00:15:18just before i moved in he had a mysterious fight with his mother and he said i can't go home i gotta
00:15:24stay here with you pup moved in before i did andre is taking him under like a son andre is the very first
00:15:34patriarch he connected with sean grew up with the illusion of what masculinity looks like
00:15:44my first encounter with sean i remember it like yesterday
00:15:49my family we rented the first floor of sean's house i was my mom and dad's only child so now sean has
00:15:57somebody to brother up with we experienced a lot of firsts together i taught him how to ride a bike
00:16:07it was the best thing in my life to let go of the bike and him start riding
00:16:12we fit so well sean was another misfit just like me but the difference in my household my dad taught me
00:16:21right from wrong no sean sean didn't have that ladies and gentlemen i would like to introduce my mother janice combs
00:16:36what were the primary jobs that you did to support your family i did so many jobs at one time i worked
00:16:43at the united civil palsy i worked at uh the board of ed in westchester county i drove the school bus
00:16:51i worked in a baby's boutique shop and he never knew this i worked in the after hours spot too
00:16:59i have to come quick i needed to come quick
00:17:03okay now okay i made more money because the men thought i was very glamorous and i used to pour
00:17:12liquor and they give me big tips in sean's house there was janice and there was sean
00:17:21my father's name is melvin combs i didn't get a chance to get to know him i was too young
00:17:27my father got his brains blown out like on central park west i did the research they said my mother
00:17:35had brought me to the funeral on the full length chinchilla
00:17:41it was like a sigh of relief you know what i'm saying because i finally knew that what i was feeling
00:17:45was true you know what i'm saying that i was a son of a hustler a gangster melvin's presence was there
00:17:52his money was there and i understood that melvin made a lot of things possible but sean's mom was his
00:18:01everything if you look at some of the early pictures that janice has of sean she was always making him into
00:18:12something the hats fur coats i think she tried to overcompensate for the father being gone by making him
00:18:25into this dandy everything associated with sean was harlem
00:18:34whoever was flying home that's what he was as a child janice she'd always be in harlem and there were
00:18:41times where she'd bring us here we are in this brand new cadillac because that's all janet drove
00:18:51she's making stops here and there and you know we knew the rule the drill just sit there i'll be
00:18:56right back she ain't turn the car off nobody took the car no so you knew it was a different vibe going
00:19:04on with this family in his household the groove was a little different a lot of donna summer playing
00:19:16and then we had these movies we'd watch it's got to be number one this genre of films called black
00:19:22exploitation super dude you had super fly super fly you had the mac when you got nothing you want
00:19:30everything you gotta get to be the mac their parts were hustler parts
00:19:39in sean's household you start to see all the stuff that you saw on the movies
00:19:45janice janice knew how to throw a party and the party's packed you got the ladies that look like
00:19:54this straight out of a jet magazine some brothers up there you know if you want to call them pimps you
00:20:00can if you want to call them hustlers you can you got a member of the new york knicks or two
00:20:05there was a stage in her living room literally a stage and that's where we used to have to go and
00:20:15dance when everybody's calling you baby and everybody's saying do that dance
00:20:27and all of this stuff he's taken in
00:20:29so from the movie screen to the home screen these are the makings of sean combs
00:20:43now mind you as a child sean was goofy kids would pick on him a lot around the block
00:20:50and he didn't know how to defend himself sean was a prince and janice she didn't want no princess
00:20:59she held back nothing you've said i would be 12 years old and sometimes i'd be out until three
00:21:05four in the morning james james we don't have to get into that right
00:21:11ma'am got a lot of beatings too his beatings made me scared right i got beatings now
00:21:22but when he got his beatings it wasn't no it wasn't a joking thing no
00:21:33damn i hate thinking about that man
00:21:35my mother was i guess raising me for the real world she was always told me if somebody hit me make
00:21:44sure i hit them back harder make sure they never hit me again you make sure i fucked them up
00:21:48you know how you hear your mom's voice in your ear boy you better boy sean started fighting he started
00:22:01stepping up but sean don't fight like this sean's gonna bite you he's gonna eat your ear off
00:22:09he's gonna cut your neck open with his mouth he's not losing
00:22:18i know people are shaped by pain as well as by love
00:22:23and if it was more pain than love watch out
00:22:30there's going to be pain that you're going to give others
00:22:34because you're responding to that pain that you just can't seem to cut out of you
00:22:39i didn't know much about him i know that he had a big eagle
00:22:58i met him around 89 90. my job was to promote music videos and puffy he was always doing the
00:23:06party promotions so he's always like handing out the flyers at the time i was working on
00:23:12arjo harrell but he wasn't paying me enough so i had to promote parties on the side which was all
00:23:16good right daddy's house he was savvy enough to promote parties they were the most successful
00:23:23parties at that time but they were all about promoting himself one of the brothers that put the
00:23:29party together my man puff daddy really it was no problem because all my black brothers and sisters
00:23:34came together like my man tell you fresh beautiful women out here we came together just to have a good
00:23:39time i went to a party for a good friend
00:23:46it was getting very late puffy is like oh you know i'm having an after party
00:23:53at andre harrell's house
00:23:57andre harrell wasn't there he was out of town
00:23:58people were tracking mud through the house and i remember at the end of the night i was helping
00:24:08clean up the mud puffy is like very polite you know and thanking me for helping him
00:24:16and he asked me oh wow i just got this call you know someone this girl backed out of this music video
00:24:21you know can you do it and i was like i don't do music videos but this party was in new jersey and i
00:24:31needed a ride back to manhattan so i went along
00:24:39and i never forget i had the same clothes on that i had from the night before
00:24:44the music video was called straight from the soul by finesse and sinquist
00:24:53the whole premise was for me to jump out the car and go with these girls and get away from the pimp
00:24:59guy
00:25:16want to be a pimp brother your heart ain't that cold and this is straight from the soul
00:25:21was there ever a time that sean combs sexually assaulted you
00:25:35yes
00:25:39someone called me up and told me that um he said you know he has you know video and i was like what
00:25:46it and that's when he um ex described it and explained it
00:26:00i i just want to say this this thing was incredibly devastating to my family
00:26:20my mother she's a social worker we don't have money the thing
00:26:26that we had was our pride
00:26:37we carried ourselves well we were pretty we were intelligent this is the basis of what i had self
00:26:47respect my mother wrote a letter to com's parents
00:26:53i just found this recently
00:27:00can i read it
00:27:05dear mr and mrs combs
00:27:09i'm writing you to inform you of something that your son did to my daughter
00:27:17one weekend while visiting my daughter i woke to her screaming in the middle of the night
00:27:25she told me that she was dreaming about puffy i asked her
00:27:33why she was screaming and who is this puffy person that he would cause her to have nightmares
00:27:39i was shocked and mortified to hear her story she told me that several people have come to her
00:27:48to inform her that your son has made an obscene videotape of her
00:27:55without her knowledge he videotaped him doing something sexual to her
00:28:01apparently your son shows these tapes at parties on large screen televisions
00:28:13i realize that this may be hard for you to believe but if i hadn't heard this story from my daughter's own
00:28:19mouth and looked into her eyes i would have scarcely believed that any individual
00:28:25would compromise another person's dignity in this manner
00:28:40i approached a lot of people for help
00:28:46i got things like what do you want me to do about it to
00:28:51if i help you i can't get into his parties
00:28:59from pup daddy's house what's up what's up revolutionized the hip-hop club scene this year
00:29:08why would you want to do that drug and rape the girl tape it and then put it up on the screen
00:29:17here's my theory
00:29:23alpo martinez drug lord famous harlem street tough guy hung out at the rooftop
00:29:34alpo had a lot of girls and he would take girls that he was having sex with and then on a saturday
00:29:41night he might bring his camera and put it on the wall and everyone knows that so-and-so's girl
00:29:53what sean saw was i want to be looked upon in that way as someone that has that type of stature
00:30:00all his life he's been trying to honor a man he believed it was a famous parliament gangster
00:30:10and that gave his father a mythic presence people like alpo he looked at those guys with a certain
00:30:19amount of jealousy or envy a certain amount of respect and there's a certain amount of desire
00:30:26that thing was in him from there
00:30:36did you ever confront sean about him i did
00:30:42i avoided him for a very long time i ran into him one day
00:30:47he came to me he got on his knees and swore he did not do this thing to me
00:30:58and denied it
00:30:59and that is the very last time i talked to him we did it let's go the key to the city yeah yeah
00:31:13yeah when i think back in terms of his rise
00:31:18it is the most helpless feeling i was always nauseous when i saw his image
00:31:29the one image in times square where he's holding his fist up
00:31:37when i saw it i vomited right there on the street
00:31:43you are really raising your hand at victory and i'm living in trauma and defeat
00:31:59it's a new legal trouble for sean diddy combs another new lawsuit of sexual assault sex trafficking
00:32:11and drugging underage
00:32:12federal prosecutors in new york have interviewed numerous women who allege rome
00:32:16this is at least the 10th civil lawsuit filed against sean diddy combs
00:32:20alleged sex trafficking let's take the blood man what the fuck that was showing up
00:32:26i don't know
00:32:28there's a bunch of silly
00:32:29just silly
00:32:30bullshit noise
00:32:36but it's like the legal system is doing it now because like legally we got it
00:32:40it's like i gotta i gotta spend money to go and get rid of this
00:32:44bullshit oh yeah i ain't got nothing left i got nothing left going on
00:32:54they ain't breaking me no
00:32:56how are you boss if you don't mind one picture please
00:33:00i'm not good with the camera so i'm gonna try
00:33:02it's a group as a group sean was destined to be famous okay
00:33:22i didn't see him for me coming i swear i didn't see that coming
00:33:25i'm 19 and i always like seeing people entertained and i thought you know over the holidays i just
00:33:36wanted to throw a celebrity basketball game in harlem
00:33:42i was at the game i was on the floor all of us was there every rapper in new york right
00:33:47your mtv raps came i'm at city college in the heart of new york city for the puff daddy heavy the
00:33:53first all-time celebrity all-star classic that was one of the biggest basketball games if that
00:34:00would have turned out correctly or it went down in history
00:34:07there were lines and lines around campus to get in there's no more room but everyone still wants to come
00:34:18we open up the doors everybody saw us flowing through
00:34:20but then thousands more come
00:34:36there was a thing in hip hop called bum rushing the door people don't have a ticket when they
00:34:40hear something sold out they say it we gotta still get in we're gonna bum rush the door
00:34:43when they got to the bottom of the stairs the doors didn't go out that way they only came in
00:34:51so people were stuck they were just crushing people down at the bottom of the stairs
00:34:59we're on the court warming up the play and then dougie first grabbed the mic and said there's people
00:35:04there's people that are dead
00:35:13whether you need a bigger star or whether you meet the most regular person in here you need to leave
00:35:21and it's over
00:35:22so i'm over promoted overhyped
00:35:33and that led to a crowd
00:35:35so it's just like oh it just happened so quick how would how would people want to explain it
00:35:47we need a lot of help here there's a lot of people hurt and aren't breathing
00:35:50the death toll from last week's stampede at a new york charity basketball game has risen to nine
00:36:15that was getting trampled all for money four dollars man what do you mean twelve dollars cost
00:36:21twelve dollars for a ticket one of the unanswered questions remains who's to blame for the stampede
00:36:28that killed nine people throughout the newspaper headlines throughout the confusion the finger pointing
00:36:37who was responsible sean young in real time carried the weight of all of that
00:36:48my dream for this evening was to bring a positive program to my people
00:36:53to people of my age and to people in my community whatever must be done must be done to ensure
00:36:59that this never ever ever happens again it was the biggest news ever
00:37:04that's how he got super famous was that game and those deaths that's the beginning of puff daddy
00:37:16that's really how i started to become famous still a tragedy
00:37:24he was holed up in a hotel on the east side him and his mother he didn't know what was going to happen
00:37:31and i saw janice question sean he's going into this music business thing he just left school and now this
00:37:41extreme tragedy has occurred she's like did he make the right decision and i saw him put his hands on her
00:37:53call her a bitch and slapped her
00:37:55she's not looking back
00:38:06and then he's not looking back
00:38:08sean puff daddy combs and sponsors claim no responsibility in the tragic chain of events
00:38:13that claim nine lives and injured the brass that afforded uptown its distribution money wanted sean out
00:38:20i saw andre fight and fight to keep sean in and he did andre arel puff daddy he's passing on to i
00:38:31guess his son protégé protégé yes yes puppy yes tell me a little bit about this man and why you like
00:38:38working with him because you know he's not intimidated by youth you know i'm saying he knows the importance of
00:38:43leaving the legacy behind because we need more adults out there that's going to teach the young
00:38:47such as myself i took andre harrell out to lunch and i said can i get a chance to maybe do a andr
00:38:56the a andr is artists and repertoire that's the guy that works at the record company that puts the
00:39:00records together and works with the artists i said give me a chance you know you you're making music
00:39:06for young people i'm young and you know who better to make the music than me we had a group back in
00:39:14the day they drove up to new york unannounced to meet andre harrell when we make love jodeci
00:39:26they sing for andre andre loves it immediately that becomes puff's first responsibility
00:39:31and they could go make jodeci what's in the future of jodeci hopefully to make hits hits
00:39:39andre put his trust with sean as opposed to the artist
00:39:46he told us i don't care who the artist is you're more important than them the artists don't work
00:39:52without you what would be the ideal musical setting for y'all i guess before in front like millions of
00:39:58people you know you have to be able to control everything i basically style and come up with
00:40:04the images and design most of the clothing for all of the artists it was him that put jodeci in the
00:40:10pants baggy sagging at the bottom the boots not lacing it up he is able to sponge from the community
00:40:18and the culture and package it and in the studio he did the same thing sean wasn't a producer where
00:40:28he can tell you you need a c here a c note or this is an f but he did have a good ear for what could be
00:40:36a hit let me give you an example let's get it going rooftop at the rooftop in harlem the dj brucey b would
00:40:44mix acapellas from r b songs with hard hip-hop beats
00:40:53and it drove the kids crazy at the clubs that's what sean did with jodeci on those remixes
00:41:02it was very minimal it was very hard beat and snare no melody
00:41:06come and talk to me baby i really wanna meet you jodeci's record started climbing the charts
00:41:18sean turned that into the blueprint for his special brand of a and r and then the next artist to
00:41:25benefit from that was mary j blige mary's what's the 411 was out the box
00:41:39the hat pulled out the mysteriousness it had a little bit of a darkness and moodiness to it as well
00:41:44all of that was groundbreaking
00:41:50he launched a female artist in a male-dominated hip-hop barrel
00:41:59who became an instant success and that created hip-hop soul mary became the owner of that sound
00:42:07so i was making the hits happen and the visuals happened in 1992 sean is promoted to vp of a and
00:42:20r and arts and development so my name is puff daddy vice president of a and r and arts development for
00:42:28uptown records which brought you the hits joe to see mary j blige heavy dina boys falling sea
00:42:34and you know on and on and on puffy had jodeci and mary j blige but puffy's a big huge epmd fan
00:42:45he was at my crossover video shoot and he asked me to do the mary j blige intro for the 401 album
00:42:58i did that for him and then all of a sudden we became friends
00:43:00i thought it was a general friendship until i see that this game is being played
00:43:10you got an agenda
00:43:13misa
00:43:15he was trying to court her after we broke up
00:43:19sean wants her because eric was that dude
00:43:23it was about i got her i won her over from him
00:43:30he had to have the girl
00:43:33and sean has a way about when he gets you he got you
00:43:38he got you and now you become property
00:43:44me and misa was just friends
00:43:46but he wanted to make sure that there was no calling and me being friends with that girl
00:43:54sean's jealousy it got to the point where he put his hands on her
00:44:00right outside of uptown records they're fighting in the street and he's beating her into the car well
00:44:06she's on the ground
00:44:12and people are pulling him off of her and separating her
00:44:17a year or two later they're still together and justin is born
00:44:22when he invited me to be the godfather of his first son
00:44:34i was able to push that in the back of my mind and say that was a really bad moment but he was weak and
00:44:43it was a bad moment does that make me part of a sean combs cult maybe so
00:44:52i may have been the first disciple believer
00:44:59and then overall protector against all odds
00:45:03i want to personally invite one more brother on stage
00:45:16responsible for my joe to see mary j blige
00:45:20puff daddy come to the stage baby
00:45:21puff daddy
00:45:27at that point sean is on top of the world and his trajectory was only up
00:45:36i was just a wonder kid it was just something that they never saw before
00:45:39to be young and to be puff daddy it's just it's just like i felt like my dream man came true
00:45:50everybody now is looking for this kid
00:45:57because they all have artists that they have to get to the top of the chart
00:46:01what does that do to a person
00:46:02do you think i'm still gonna be like yes ma'am no ma'am thank you very much
00:46:11he became too big for uptown records i'm gonna be so drunk and high by wednesday eight o'clock i'm
00:46:15not really gonna give a but i give a it started to be some dissension between andre and puff
00:46:21andre was the king of the uptown castle of the empire he created
00:46:30and the intern was taking his place
00:46:36i remember it like yesterday andre called me into his office
00:46:42he tells me just like this he says dog i just fired puff i said word
00:46:51it was a sad day andre was like a surrogate dad for sean
00:47:00sean was really sick when andre fired him i'm talking about sick couldn't believe it
00:47:09and then sean called me and he said yo i'm about to do my thing dog
00:47:21like yo i'm looking for some um hardcore artist
00:47:34he's ain't tired of doing the mary's
00:47:35shit jonas he said he want to do some hard
00:47:38shit some street
00:47:47the west coast had the hits that we wanted
00:47:50so on signed biggie in 1992 people didn't know we had to produce biggie's album for uptown
00:48:04he was an uptown artist so it's in the twin is big then yeah yeah b-i-g business instead of game
00:48:10right i'll tell him i told you but when andre fired puff they fired him with a caveat
00:48:16i'm letting you go but i'm gonna let you take biggie with you andre decided to sell us the biggie album
00:48:27but now we had to find a way to pay for it
00:48:30we were living on borrowed time i went about setting up the meetings
00:48:39we met with epic sony columbia and we met with clive davis at ariston everybody knows him on a
00:48:47first name basis clive runs a hundred million dollar record company called ariston
00:48:51he has discovered whitney houston carly simon aretha franklin and a long list of other pop stars
00:49:01who thrive in the world according to clive
00:49:06so we went to clive and we played a few tracks from his album and i remember one of the first
00:49:12ones that we played was gimme the loop yes love love your fucking attitude because the
00:49:17nigger play pussy that's the and clive's eyes went like this i'm slamming niggas like shaquille
00:49:23shit it's real and i said well you got the goods and i bought into his vision
00:49:36i named it a bad boy because i wanted to go against the grain i didn't want to just make records i
00:49:42don't want to just make money i wanted to make history i was at bad boy starting from the day that
00:49:58we put the llc together and sean gave me 25 percent in stock and his mother janice had 75
00:50:07percent he did not put the company in his name to protect him from paying families at ccny
00:50:18and i saw from that moment on sean had shifted in his personality i didn't see any more of the mount
00:50:28st michael teen sean he had become more like the person i see today
00:50:39we did a deal for approximately 10 million dollars
00:50:441.5 went as an advance into sean's pocket another 1.5 is supposed to be our overhead sean said that's
00:50:54yours you can do whatever you want with it but you better make sure my company's running
00:51:00from day zero i wrote everything down every day so i can keep track of everything i needed to do
00:51:07i ran all the money all the budgets for the company as well as a lot for his personal life
00:51:12and all that came with it i don't like the way you treating me on me getting my second half this
00:51:19shit is bullshit yo yo yo yo bust your ass and i think that he had this thing with strong men
00:51:27and he had a thing with wanting to be one but not positioned to be one street wise but positioned to
00:51:34be one industry wise and they call that a paper gangster i'm not paying nor am i involved in any of
00:51:41that and so as he's paper gangstering he's also trying to street gangster too at the same time
00:51:52he's not from the street his mother did the very best to give him the best what's next give me
00:51:58something else what can't you do i can do it but now he's been getting beefier and beefier with the
00:52:04power from the music that's a good way to get your head filled up to think that you're just as
00:52:10gangster as they are now without even having to pop your gun off yourself
00:52:19now after all this time me and misa is still cool we were just friends but one time she just happened
00:52:27to be in my driver's seat in my truck and all of a sudden i heard somebody go and it's him
00:52:34he's steaming he swings on me so i'm laughing because i'm like he swung on me you're putting
00:52:46yourself in jeopardy knowing you can't work none of us so now i'm like yo let's go around the corner
00:52:53because i could because because i'm respectful enough so he actually gets in the car and we drive
00:52:59around the corner so i'm about to give him the business could have got really ugly and he just
00:53:06said yo see now i want you to hear something real quick and that's when he played in the biggie smalls
00:53:10album yeah this album is dedicated to all the teachers that told me i never amount tonight
00:53:18the juicy single dropped somewhere in 94. it was all a dream i used to read word up magazine
00:53:25but biggie's trajectory was not zero straight to the top biggie had a slow start very nervous at first
00:53:33at the time that west coast thing is happening so we began to look at what they were doing
00:53:42and tupac was like a shining star there's a song called i get around by tupac
00:53:52that song if you're like in a science lab and you're looking at something with a microscope and
00:53:57you're trying to figure out what it is and what it's made of that's what we did with that song i get
00:54:02around sean was just mesmerized by that particular song the structure of it the video and the visuals
00:54:10it showed the culture it's like let me dissect this let me understand it let me do it my way
00:54:19and the next single was big papa and that dropped and it took us over the edge with biggie
00:54:24i liked it he was out of here from that moment we had ready to die before it came out big has sent
00:54:40tupac a demo and we played that tape to death man we played that tape till it was destroyed
00:54:45and then pop got the phone call that big was having an album release party he said to us man we all go
00:54:53into that he was very excited for him i've never seen someone more excited for someone else's success
00:55:06as pop was for big success you ready yeah ready for that raw dog
00:55:11shit okay all right let me see how i'm gonna hit you with he thought big was dope he wasn't doping
00:55:21in him as far as he was concerned to apocalypse don't sleep i keep a motherfucking glock in my car
00:55:27but he was the next thing smoking i'm a high guy from bed stop putting the swelling on your eye
00:55:33your nose even when i choke you you stop breathing when police come i'm leaving peace and love
00:55:43pop would take big with him on chores and let him open up for him
00:55:47pop was developing thug life this ideology of taking back our communities big was with that
00:56:01he felt that he resonated with it so they had a connection sean was insanely jealous of biggie and
00:56:12pox friendship you know when i was around big i felt like he really loved me like i felt like if i
00:56:20left the room he wasn't gonna say nothing bad or somebody said something bad about me he would defend
00:56:25that he's probably one of the only people i had really trusted like for a long time
00:56:30there's a yearning for him to have that complete total control you're my artist you're my best
00:56:42friend you're writing this song for like 30 motherfucking days i pay you you work for me
00:56:49i make hits with you i needed money on my own so i started playing and who is this guy
00:57:01why do we need him in the picture guess who gonna win tupac was a very likable person
00:57:08all the women loved him being a rapper being a movie star
00:57:14for sean being a marketer you're a manipulator please welcome tupac shakur and there's envy for
00:57:24people who have success fame with no manipulation
00:57:31puff is to me very threatened by pop
00:57:36when i reflect on how this all came into play it's a trail
00:57:47city college innocent lives got taken
00:57:53then it became the ability to get away with anything
00:57:58then you circle in the fact that he has legit money
00:58:01then you have the antagonist tupac shakur
00:58:13all those agreements created the chain of events
00:58:18that started in new york and ended in vegas
00:58:23do you know who was responsible for the killing of tupac shakur no i don't
00:58:41i think that sean now in my mature mind had a lot to do with the death of tupac
00:59:02the death of tupac shakur no i don't know who was responsible for the killing of tupac shakur no i don't know
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