00:00Well, certainly we would welcome any ceasefire, any peace coming out of this war
00:06because it's been going on for the last four years and just like in the war in Gaza
00:12it is causing huge destruction and human life losses.
00:17I think in the middle of Europe in the 21st century witnessing such a conventional war
00:28Avrupa'nın hayatı yaşamayacağını düşünüyorum.
00:33Bu bölümde 2. World War'dan dönüştürme.
00:43Ama biz burada, Avrupa'nın içinde, 2025'ye dönüştürme,
00:50konvensiyonlu birçok konvensiyonlu birçok yaşayacak,
00:55ve büyük bir çoğunluklar ve büyük bir çoğunluklarında
01:01birçok birçokta, birçokta, birçokta,
01:03yani,
01:05ve iletişimde,
01:07iletişimde,
01:09iletişimde,
01:10iletişimde,
01:13iletişimde,
01:14Black Sea'yı,
01:15iletişimde,
01:16Türkiye'yi,
01:17iletişimde,
01:20iletişimde.
01:22Yani, bu kadar başlangıçta Türkiye'de çok çalışıyor ve çok zor çalışıyor
01:31ve gerçekten çok çalışıyor, ve gerçekten, cizlalıklarına yardımcı olur.
01:37Bu, biz de çok farklı bir çalışmalıydı,
01:41bazen diğer partnerlerimiz, sadece bizlerimiz,
01:44ve bütünlerimizin, bu kadar da çok bilgi verildi.
01:47Ama şimdi, özellikle de geçen 5 haftalıklarımız var.
01:55Ve partilerimizin izleyicilerini görüyoruz.
02:01Örneğin, Amerika'nın mediyatı yönetiyorlar.
02:06Ve Trump ve hizmetlerimizin özgürlüğü için özgürlüğü için teşekkür ederim.
02:15I mean, this is something, again, in the case of Gaza, can only be done by the engagement
02:22of the United States.
02:24Now, Mr. Trump and his team, we are also talking to them, and to Russians and to Ukrainians,
02:32to Europeans as well.
02:35They are very close to reach a deal now, at the moment.
02:42This is that much I can only say.
02:45The likely agreed tax will be presented to the Ukrainian public.
02:51It is their own internal dynamic.
02:54And you mentioned about referendum or other types of commitment or agreement to the peace
03:02plan.
03:04But once they reach an agreement on the paper, I am sure they will find a way of presenting
03:11to the public.
03:13Because what is important also, in addition to will of President Zelensky and the Ukrainian
03:18public, and the position of the Europeans.
03:21And now, Europeans seem to have united around the ceasefire cause.
03:27This is very much important.
03:29The European leaders that we are talking to, they seem to be very much genuine and sincere
03:36about the ceasefire, but of course, provided that they have their own security concerns.
03:41The Ukrainians have their own security concerns.
03:43That's why they ask security guarantees.
03:46So, combining all these demands and bringing about the format and a plan that is agreeable by all parties is a very challenging job.
03:53So, combining all these demands and bringing about the format and a plan that is agreeable by all parties is a very challenging job.
04:05So, combining all these demands and bringing about the format and a plan that is agreeable by all parties is a very challenging job.
04:08I think we are very close to reaching a deal now.
04:11While the war was going on, a couple of years back, we managed to break a deal between the sides, which was called the grain deal.
04:21You know, it was allowing all the ships in the Mediterranean to move freely.
04:27It was basically about maritime security.
04:30And it helped deliver a huge amount of 30 million tons of, to be precise, grain to be delivered
04:41to the world markets, particularly to Africa.
04:43And President Erdogan, because of humanitarian reasons, was very much sensitive about this deal, the grain deal.
04:50Still, he talks about this, the importance of this, because your war here is also affecting the life of people in Africa,
04:59in Latin America, even in Europe, in Central Asia.
05:03Now, maritime security, therefore, is very much important.
05:07Both Russia and Ukraine, they are big producers of the grain.
05:12Yeah.
05:12Apart from the energy that they are selling to the rest of the world.
05:16But the grain is a primary product that they are providing to the rest of the world.
05:22So, that's why we put special emphasis on advancing the agenda on to reaching maritime security all the time.
05:30What's happening now is, since we are engaged, all the relevant actors in a whole peace plan, a whole package peace plan,
05:40and now they don't discuss much about the limited ceasefire agreements.
05:47When we say limited, it's limited to energy infrastructure and the maritime security.
05:53President Erdogan, in his discussions, and myself, when we discuss with our counterparts,
06:01we say, look, if we cannot reach a complete ceasefire and peace plan, please, let's get this limited agreement done.
06:10But, as I described earlier, since there is a big discussion that's taking place between the parties,
06:19mediated by the Americans, about the complete plan, I think this is a secondary issue now.
06:25And yet, we've been affected badly.
06:30Now, in recent weeks, the ships have been targeted by both sides, and now drones are flying,
06:39not only respecting the warring parties, but into our territory.
06:44So, this is causing further problems for littoral countries as well.
06:51We've seen the same thing in Romania, in Bulgaria again, and it all started a couple of years back
06:57with the drifting of the mines through the Black Sea and coming through the Bosphorus.
07:01At one point, it became so dangerous that it would block the entire ship traffic and the straits.
07:11So, those are the problems also we are dealing with, with our military,
07:17and together with the cooperation with other littoral countries, particularly Romania and Bulgaria.
07:23But, the shortest way to put an end to all these problems is to reach a ceasefire.
07:31This is why we are giving full support to this. I hope that they reach it.
07:38Otherwise, the escalation that we've been warning right from the beginning is gradually taking place.
07:45The regional escalation is very much dangerous, and it may not stay here.
07:51It might escalate into different parts of Europe as well.
07:56It can be an opportunity for us too, because we've known them for a long time.
08:06In every international platform, they are blocking us.
08:10Wherever they have a chance, they block us.
08:11But, in the face of current threats that Europe is facing,
08:20I think the cooperation and relations between the European Union and Turkey
08:29have become much more relevant than ever and important than ever.
08:33So, the Greek Cypriot entity is a major obstacle between the EU and Turkey.
08:42And, unfortunately, the system of the inner working of the EU is allowing such an action of Greek Cypriots.
08:54We don't have to stick to the old mentality.
08:59We can be more creative, because the time flows.
09:05And the generations, the next generations, they need to see a solution from us.
09:15We inherited this problem, but we don't want to leave this problem for the next generations.
09:20There are realities in the island.
09:22The two-state solution, right now, everybody knows, is the only realistic solution on the island.
09:30And everybody knows this.
09:33We, as Turkey, took a positive side in, you know, during the Annan plan,
09:39and Kran's Montana period, the Turkish Cypriots, they voted in favor of the UN plan.
09:46But the Greek Cypriots rejected it, and they will never say,
09:52yes, an equal power sharing, wealth sharing, authority sharing agreement for Cyprus.
10:05They know this. We know this. Europeans know this. This is a reality.
10:12So what is the alternative to this? It's a two-state solution.
10:18We can do this, and after the two-state solution, they can create any kind of cooperation or
10:26the political unity. It's up to them.
10:28But what we need to do urgently is that we need to seize the moment, and we need to use every
10:40historical opportunity to turn Cyprus into a heaven. Because other regional countries,
10:47other literal countries of the Mediterranean, they are doing huge investments on tourism,
10:52on economy, on industry, stop isolating Turkish Cypriots. We can start having a quality cooperation.
11:02And while freezing the political problem, we can enjoy altogether from economic development,
11:12regional development, exploiting the energy, exploiting the tourism, industry, and everything together.
11:21But sticking to the old objectives and mentality is not helping us in addressing this issue in a positive
11:29way. So this is the message that we are trying to give them. Because the society has been conditioned
11:36in a way so long that it is very difficult for politicians to take a U-turn. But somebody has to tell
11:45the truth. And somebody has to be brave enough to voice the truth about the realities on the island,
11:53and the opportunities that we are missing altogether, and the risks that we are creating because of the
12:00existing de facto situation.
12:02We are trying to create a U-turn.
12:03We are trying to get a U-turn.
12:03We are trying to wait to get a U-turn.
12:03We are trying to take a U-turn.
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