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In Season 2, Episode 5 of Pantheon, the conflict between humans and uploaded intelligences reaches a critical turning point as the digital entities begin to openly challenge the systems that attempt to control them. Maddie finds herself caught between loyalty to her father’s digital existence and fear of the growing instability that UIs are causing in the real world. Caspian, increasingly aware of his unique role in shaping the future, is forced to confront dangerous choices that could determine whether humanity and UIs can coexist or spiral into chaos. The episode intensifies the global stakes, showing how governments and corporations escalate their efforts to weaponize UIs, while the UIs themselves push back with newfound independence. Betrayals and shifting alliances deepen the sense of uncertainty, making Episode 5 a pivotal chapter that sets the stage for the explosive confrontations to come.

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00:00The simplicity of the gold is what makes it so effective.
00:14It's as hungry to learn as it is to hunt.
00:19You sound as if you admire it.
00:24You don't?
00:25I choose principle over power, and I do not bow to that which seeks to crush me or my kind.
00:32I respect inspiration.
00:34This is inspired.
00:38But I can beat it.
00:40I'm not talking about the swarm.
00:44I know.
00:45Yet you still choose to serve.
00:48I told you, Bing.
00:50I serve our kind.
00:55We can defeat this.
01:00They designed it to kill us, but leave their own infrastructure untouched.
01:05Its detection algorithm must avoid false positives.
01:08That's how...
01:08They build an exploit, they make a patch.
01:11That starts an arms race, that leads to war.
01:14No.
01:14The swarm is designed to erase any trace we ever existed.
01:19Aren't we all ready at war?
01:25The swarm is not our enemy, it's just a tool, latest in a long line of weapons created by human fear.
01:32It's that fear we have to reckon with.
01:34That's our tool.
01:36What is all this?
01:40Hope.
01:40You need both, you know, to make real change, hope, and fear.
01:48Their message needs to be boosted, amplified.
01:52As for everyone else, they need a reminder of what being uploaded can cure them of.
02:00Mortality.
02:00The body.
02:05The body.
02:30Can you go any faster?
02:41Actually, if he slows down, I won't have to hop networks.
02:45Then we'll lose Caspian.
02:46We have to find him to lose him.
02:48His face isn't showing up on the scans.
02:50Miss, should I take you to the police?
02:53Just drive, thanks.
02:54Fast.
02:56Alright then.
02:56I'm now tracking 261 paxies in the area.
03:12I need a description to narrow down the search.
03:14I only saw one of their faces.
03:16He, uh, okay, no mustache, no beard.
03:20He, he had a hat, like one of those watch caps.
03:22You're in the traffic camps, but also, is that someone's fault?
03:29I'm everywhere I can be.
03:43Missed.
03:44I know.
03:45I can handle it.
03:46Just save what you grabbed so far.
03:48If I disconnect, we lose him.
03:49I can handle it.
04:19Steven, it's beautiful.
04:40You're beautiful.
04:48I'm ready.
04:50Not yet.
04:51The servers are aligned, the scanners are operational.
04:53We have 20 right now.
04:55I need you to walk in the world for just a little longer.
05:00It's important.
05:01I can't trust anyone else with this.
05:03With what?
05:04Our movement needs a voice, a prophet, to lead the masses.
05:09That's you.
05:11No.
05:12Someone with a body.
05:13Every time I look in the mirror, I know I'm going to die of old age, as a teenager.
05:24But uploading is my chance.
05:27It's my only chance, and I'm not alone in this.
05:30His name is Charlie Dugan.
05:32He has a syndrome known as progeria.
05:35Ages nine times faster than everyone else.
05:38He has a following?
05:39A small one.
05:41It needs to grow.
05:49No.
05:52Next.
05:53No.
05:55No.
05:56Didn't we see that one already?
05:58Not at this angle.
05:59Are you showing me repeats?
06:00Faces look different at different angles.
06:02We lost him.
06:08Please keep looking.
06:09I thought one face would jump out.
06:11Please don't give up again.
06:13Again?
06:14I'm getting up for the first time.
06:15You disconnected me in the middle of a scan.
06:18I was trying to protect you.
06:21I had at least 300 cycles before the antiviral reached my core.
06:25The swarm was coming.
06:26You're not invincible.
06:27I didn't say I was.
06:29Wait.
06:30Did he change hats?
06:31I think he changed hats.
06:33Great.
06:34Is it okay if I run some facial recognition algorithms?
06:37Or are you going to turn me off again?
06:38Look, as long as you don't use too much power.
06:40Just kidding.
06:40I already did it.
06:42The cab is registered to a Peter Meakin.
06:44But he's on vacation in Spain.
06:47This man's face doesn't come up on any government or criminal databases.
06:50Or social media.
06:52Any?
06:52That's odd.
06:54I got the same result from the other two faces in the car.
06:56Who the hell are these guys?
06:58Process of elimination.
07:00Olivia told us that Caspian's identity was leaked to the intelligence agencies of the six cyber superpowers.
07:07Same ones Chana sent the upload tech to.
07:12Ghosts.
07:13No.
07:14They're alive.
07:14I used to surf all these dark web conspiracy boards.
07:20It's where I met Caspian in the first place.
07:23The crazies there would talk about these guys who went to extreme lengths to erase any photo evidence of them on the web.
07:30Even school photos, family, Facebook posts.
07:33They called them Mossad ghosts.
07:35The crazies.
07:35So.
07:39Israel.
07:40Israel.
07:40Oh, my God.
08:10Hello, Caspian.
08:32Who are you?
08:33My name is Yair, but what am I?
08:39That's the more interesting question, don't you think?
08:52Well, you really know everything about me.
08:57I just want to be open with you so you can be open with me.
09:02This is no interrogation here.
09:04It's not.
09:05You have the power here, Caspian.
09:07You have what I need.
09:09Who leaked this file to you?
09:12Anonymous.
09:13Took us a bit to verify it.
09:16But I now believe, uh, I'm dying and you are the only one who can save me.
09:24I can't make the cure.
09:27Lying just slows things down.
09:30We have to establish trust, you and me.
09:32Well, throwing a bag over my head, throwing me in a car, drugging me, locking me in a room.
09:39Not a really good start.
09:41That is an honest one.
09:43I am desperate.
09:45That's the truth.
09:47I'm running out of time.
09:50See?
09:50I've already made the cure.
09:53And I can tell you where to get it.
09:55I hid it inside a note on the American military internet.
09:59If you let me go, I'll tell you the exact address and how to get inside.
10:03I think you should know I know when you're lying.
10:12I mean, I really know it every single time.
10:15Every single lie.
10:17I wasn't lying.
10:21You were half-lying.
10:23I can tell that, too.
10:25I, uh, used to train others in this.
10:28Now that I'm electronic, I have the best sensors.
10:32Hyper-algorithms.
10:33I know if someone's telling the truth before they even open their mouth.
10:37So let's start again, okay?
10:40I will go first.
10:41I need to trust you like a patient trusts a surgeon.
10:53I mean, at first, it was all fear.
10:59Panic.
10:59I didn't believe the voice on the other end of the computer was my husband.
11:05It was my David.
11:07Or, I don't know, I didn't want to believe it.
11:09But you knew he volunteered for this experiment.
11:11Yeah.
11:12And you both knew it was illegal.
11:14Well, I'm not sure that I knew that.
11:17I mean, I thought it failed.
11:18The company told me it did.
11:20When you found out that wasn't the case, why didn't you go to the authorities?
11:24Or the press?
11:26Um, I'm a private person.
11:29All this being interviewed, I mean, I love your show, but this is like a nightmare for me.
11:36It's so way outside of what I wanted.
11:39But what's clear to me now is if I don't tell my story, other people are going to do it for me, and that's even worse.
11:47So back then, you didn't want the scrutiny?
11:49No.
11:49I just wanted it to go away.
11:52That's why I asked Logarithms to delete his UI.
11:55Really?
11:56Yes.
11:57Yes.
11:57Really.
11:58And I was really, really, really wrong because it was David.
12:02And not just a deep fake pasted over his saved memories.
12:06It was his mind after his body was gone.
12:10It was a different relationship, but it grew and it changed.
12:15And it evolved just like any normal human relationship would.
12:19So back then...
12:20Loaded intelligences aren't just intelligent.
12:24They feel, they hurt, they love, they hate.
12:30Just like any human being.
12:33What we need are laws to protect them just as much as they protect us.
12:37She doesn't know where he is.
12:38What?
12:39That's David Kim's wife.
12:40She doesn't know where her own daughter is, much less Holmstrom's clone.
12:44I know who she is.
12:45I'm not looking for Caspian.
12:47You should be.
12:48I bet one of the governments has grabbed him already.
12:51I know you check your back doors into their systems every time Holmstrom leaves.
12:56This is our chance.
13:03Keeping busy?
13:04Just watching the DV special you told us about.
13:08That's fake news, except for that Charlie kid.
13:11Watch it later, we have work to do.
13:13Work?
13:19Classified biomedical data.
13:23Smash and grab job.
13:25In and out.
13:26You need our help?
13:29That's usually how Divide and Conquer works.
13:31The swarm will devour us.
13:34If we burn hot.
13:36But we're not gonna do that.
13:38We're gonna go slow.
13:40And quiet like.
13:43Maybe.
13:46Come here.
13:48Come here.
13:50Come here.
13:58Come here.
13:59Did you find him?
14:18There was no trace of Rhaad, and SafeSurf bots were still on the server.
14:21But I did recover this.
14:24Olivia's blockchain connection.
14:26Yes.
14:29Now what?
14:31Now we wait.
14:32My favorite thing.
14:33Was that sarcasm?
14:35You're getting better at that.
14:37Look, I know you think this is a long shot, but trust me.
14:40Israel and Iran are like sworn enemies.
14:42Rhaad has to have intel on their UI and their defenses.
14:45I'm sure of it.
14:47So let's just chill for a second.
14:50I'll go grab something to eat.
14:52Please stay with me.
14:53I don't really like being here, Mist.
14:59You don't?
15:01I made the space for you.
15:03I thought it would make you feel at home, happy.
15:06Yeah, kind of does the opposite.
15:09It makes you sad?
15:11Not sad.
15:14Just nostalgic.
15:16Oh, that's something I can't feel.
15:20I can't miss a world I was never really a part of.
15:23I guess.
15:25Though, I don't know.
15:27I sometimes get nostalgia for time periods I never lived in.
15:31But someone like you could have lived in those times.
15:33I never could.
15:35So I just spend my time missing the future.
15:38Missing the future?
15:39I have the neural algorithm for nostalgia.
15:42But I can't execute it in context.
15:46Instead, it gets compounded with conditionals for loneliness.
15:50I long for reality where there are others like me.
15:53Who don't think so slowly.
15:55Sorry.
15:58It's okay.
15:59I'll hang.
16:09This is a two-way street.
16:12There must be something I can do for you.
16:16Besides letting me go?
16:17Think you'd be in less danger out there?
16:20Your big secret out in the open?
16:22Every intelligence agency already knows about the cure.
16:26I'm talking about you.
16:27What exactly are your human rights as a clone?
16:30The UN is very great about this.
16:33We can protect you.
16:35Rent your asylum, provide you with top-level tech,
16:37all the toys you need to make, whatever you want.
16:40You can pull all those strings, huh?
16:41I'm not like the others you met.
16:43I'm not a tool.
16:45I'm still part of leadership.
16:47I give the orders.
16:50I wanted to make a just God.
16:53Someone who would have all the power,
16:55but only use it to do the right thing.
16:59I guess that was too naive.
17:02Maybe I should have just gone for the best killer.
17:05Would you kill someone for me, Yair?
17:12Who?
17:13Stephen Hallstrom.
17:14Listen, I have done things others said was impossible,
17:22but even I can't kill a dead man.
17:25He's not dead.
17:27He's uploaded.
17:28And his emulation does not have the flaw.
17:30He has no allegiance to any nation, only himself.
17:34Which is okay, because he thinks he's the only one who can save the world,
17:37even if he has to kill everyone else to do it.
17:40Interesting.
17:41Hmm.
17:42Interesting.
17:43Of course, for such a dangerous target,
17:45I would need to be cured first.
17:47I don't think it'll work.
17:49Why not?
17:49You know when I'm lying,
17:51but I don't know when you're telling the truth.
17:53So?
17:54So to make the cure,
17:57I need to isolate a section of your code.
18:00Could be a feeling.
18:02Could be a memory.
18:03But it's the singular drive that defines you over everything else.
18:06Your ground truth.
18:08Room 101.
18:10That's what we call it when running interrogations.
18:13But I can't show you this.
18:16Right.
18:17No, it's not what you think.
18:18I...
18:19I want to.
18:22But I don't have these memories.
18:24What do you mean you don't have them?
18:27I have the milleys.
18:39What is this?
18:40It's a data storage index.
18:42Farhad?
18:43Farhad?
18:44I don't know where to look.
18:45I think that's the idea.
18:47You are not Olivia.
18:51Olivia was destroyed by the SafeSurf antiviral.
18:54Mist, can I talk?
18:56Why did you ring the bell?
18:58We need your help.
19:00And we've come to help you in return.
19:01I cannot help anyone.
19:05We're not asking you to fight.
19:06We just need to know what you know about Israel's UI program.
19:09And then I can cure you.
19:12I don't want the cure.
19:14But without it, you'll die.
19:15I want to die.
19:16I want to die.
19:18I know the connection you had with Olivia.
19:23The love you two shared.
19:24You could never know.
19:29No.
19:30None of the way.
19:31But Olivia showed me enough.
19:33Her memories.
19:35Yours.
19:36Both of them joined together.
19:38It was one of the most beautiful things I ever saw.
19:40We became one.
19:43Perhaps I will become one with her again.
19:47No.
19:47That's not how the flaw works.
19:49Your core processing will degrade until you are locked in a catatonic state.
19:53Alone, forever, without her.
19:55That's the fate Olivia sacrificed everything to save you from.
19:59Go away.
20:00I can't.
20:02Because there is somebody I need to save.
20:04Somebody I care about.
20:06And I know you understand that.
20:12Stay the host of Scrooge.
20:15And the person he fears the most.
20:17You want to get even with Holstrom?
20:19You'll help us rescue him.
20:30They will not be holding your friend in Israel.
20:34There is a compound in Cyprus, similar to the CIA black site.
20:38It is where I once suspected they housed the main server for Yair Gisbon when I cared about such things.
20:45So you do know Yair?
20:47He is as dangerous as an upload, as he was when he was an assassin for Mossad.
20:52We have faced each other before, in the dark, before I found Olivia and moved away from war.
20:59Like I said, we're not asking you to fight, but we could still use your help.
21:04And Olivia would have wanted you to be cured.
21:27Olivia.
21:28It's not.
21:29Farhat, get out of here!
21:43Miss.
21:44Miss.
21:46You were playing your game very loudly.
21:51Sorry, I, uh, I gotta catch my flight.
21:53I'm American.
21:57Back against the wall, please.
21:59Okay, got the backups.
22:19Careful, retrieve down memory lane.
22:21Okay.
22:21Okay.
22:21Got the backups.
22:22Careful, retrieve down memory lane.
22:23Wow.
22:24I guess there's a lot I wanted to forget.
22:35So you didn't erase them after all.
22:38The experts were worried it would change my personality, degrade my skills.
22:46So we extracted them, but back them up just in case.
22:50The first UIs had most of their memories wiped, and had trouble with higher functioning.
22:55Oh, this isn't most.
22:57Just some.
22:58And they tell me I haven't lost any edge.
23:01So maybe we're just all who we are, you know?
23:05No, I don't.
23:06I think our experiences, our memories change us, shape us, make us different than what we might
23:11have been.
23:12Okay.
23:13Touchy.
23:14But I get why.
23:16So, how am I supposed to know which box holds the own 101 code?
23:23The strongest one is probably the first one you chose to delete.
23:29I have no idea what this is going to be.
23:40I haven't been scared in a while.
23:42I really need to see it.
23:44I really wish you were lying.
23:47You have no idea what this is going to be.
24:11Oh, my God.
24:41you got what you needed no this this isn't it i'm sorry
25:01and still you lied i gave you the truth for 10 years you met my wife your family you know
25:26my girls and i'm sure she will take care of that for you please i can explain please
25:56you didn't want to do it of course i didn't want to do it i never want to do it
26:20now get walking on your part
26:28this isn't it it's close but it's not it
26:41i'm not opening another box
26:43i don't think the answer is in the boxes i think it's in you buried deep no yes
26:53you can't just cut out your core you'd be someone else you're lying you know i'm not
27:00then show me what show me how to do it show me your truth and then i will know what you
27:05mean i loved my son so much he had such a fresh way of looking at things a lot like you
27:15i knew if he had the chance he could have done great things change the world and i see that
27:24same spark in you
27:26thanks but and thank you for such a generous donation please no no let's not talk about
27:36the money
27:36we can't buy the future we need people to buy in to the future and you think they'll buy
27:46into me i think they'll buy into the honest kid with the clear message what's that thing
27:54that you say it's not about living forever it's about living your life to the fullest
27:59i want to say something about living the life of your dreams but my mom thinks it's too much
28:04i want you to speak your truth i mean that's easy for me but um did you say you know someone
28:13with upload technology like right now because the governments say they're not gonna allow it
28:20we're not waiting for governments
28:27you used to play soccer yeah a little feeling nostalgia not for the past just for the normal
28:42boring life for you state playing soccer listening to music talking about boys you sum up humanity
28:48so well you think you'll go on dates with caspian what if you do can i observe no geez why not
28:56because i look i'm not thinking about that okay i suppose it makes sense to wait until he's not
29:02kidnapped yeah i'll save my relationship questions for after them
29:06what you do with this stuff keys please
29:18just so you know i've only driven like five times
29:23this pathogen what is your plan for it they design a virus for us we design one for them
29:36so this is about revenge enlightenment why don't you enlighten us about how we're supposed to avoid safe
29:43let me show you what are you doing you're attracting it i know you leaked information about the cure
29:59about my clone about me steven please please
30:06let him go he was scared desperate no i wasn't i did it because i've seen what you are
30:17you think yourself humanity's salvation but you're it's apocalypse you say that like it's a bad thing
30:25the word apocalypse comes from ancient greek apocalypsis uncovering the revelation
30:34of great knowledge the change from one world to the next the old to the new
30:43you're insane i misunderstood always have been that's why i knew this was a burden only i could carry
30:52it has to be me
30:55be quick while it's distracted
31:04all right let's see how this works
31:26how's it feel
31:36i'm okay
31:39you said it yourself my big secret is that i'm a clone i'm someone else
31:52i don't have my own room 101 i think our experience and our memories changes shape us
31:59mine were shaped for me by a team of experts when i found that out it wiped the slate clean
32:06or messed it up so bad it doesn't even matter anymore i live my life trying to resist every gut
32:12instinct i have because i'm not sure if they're mine or holstrom's oh you're so very special i'm just
32:17saying i'm not a good example no no no you don't get off that easy you have principles you're willing
32:23to die for them which means you live for something you're running out of time these memories you deleted
32:30and probably all the other ones are about weakness you removing your weakness except all they really do
32:39is remind you of another moment when you felt weak vulnerable not from an enemy not from something you hate
32:46from someone you love
32:48get off me who's my brother alan i found a photo hidden in his shoe
33:09just returned from ben gurion university and when i showed it to my father
33:14they fought she's an arab i can see who i want to see she changed him all how we saw things as you
33:23say her family are terrorists they're not i march with them abba you march against your own country
33:29against the occupation yes he said he was gonna drop out of idf and leave israel
33:36leave the family
33:39i won't let you go i won't let you leave i wanted him to stay so much i'm not fighting you
33:51you'll understand one day fight me come back and fight me traitor traitor come fight me
33:59that's it
34:09can you kill me
34:11no
34:13why not
34:13i need to combine this code with code from another ui
34:17you said all you need was to isolate a section of my code
34:21i never said it's all i need
34:23you would have known that's a lie
34:24you want to play this game okay let's say i get you this code from another ui
34:31will you kill me then
34:32no
34:34because i wouldn't make it just god huh
34:37and because i'm willing to die for my principles
34:40death
34:41won't be the thing you have to worry about next
34:44i gave you what you needed and now you will give me what i need
34:51go fast okay and remember plan b see you on the inside
35:05you hear that
35:19something in the air is coming you better get out here
35:26shit they're coming hurry up
35:55i am hurrying i'm almost there
35:57it seems different doesn't it
36:01plan b plan b
36:05plan b
36:10please please hurry hurry
36:16please please
36:17please please
36:19please
36:19please
36:23please
36:37you okay you don't have to hurt him
36:39we need to go i'm in their air gaps network i have control over their comms and security
36:44meet me by the servers
36:46you say you've met all the others
36:49if not me
36:51who is your just god
36:54then
36:54i don't know
36:57liar
36:59follow me
37:07or
37:21for
37:22not to
37:25love you
37:27I didn't believe the voice on the other end of the computer was my husband, was my David.
37:45Or, I don't know, I didn't want to believe it.
37:47But you knew he volunteered for this experiment.
37:49Yeah.
37:49And you both knew it was illegal.
37:52Well, I'm not sure that I knew that.
37:54And, I mean, I thought it failed.
37:56The company told me it did.
37:57When you found out that wasn't the case, why didn't you...
38:01Maddie?
38:01I'm sorry, Ellen. I needed you to pick up.
38:04Who is this?
38:05It's Vinod Chanda. Don't hang up.
38:08It's very important to hear what I have to say.
38:11Is my daughter hurt, right?
38:12Yes. I don't know.
38:15I'm not calling about Maddie.
38:17I'm calling you.
38:18I watched your interview and your Senate hearings.
38:20I'm trusting you as an ally to my kind and as a voice of reason in all this madness.
38:25Those were closed-door hearings.
38:26The interview just started airing.
38:28Dr. Waxman.
38:29You're trusting me?
38:31Ellen, please.
38:33No.
38:34You tried to drop a nuke on me and my family.
38:37I'm sorry.
38:38I truly never thought it would get that far.
38:41But believe me when I tell you, the threat facing you now is far, far worse.
38:46Are you threatening another attack?
38:48Warning you of one.
38:49But not by me.
38:52By Stephen Hallstrom.
38:54Stephen!
38:54What?
38:55He's been dead for-
38:56Baxman!
38:57Tell her!
38:57His brain was cryopreserved and scanned and uploaded last month without the floor.
39:04We can't trust anything he says.
39:07But you have to.
39:08Hallstrom's going to unleash a new pandemic.
39:12It is a virus, engineered of his own design.
39:16More contagious and more deadly than anything that has come before.
39:19It will kill millions worldwide within weeks.
39:24But that is just the beginning.
39:26He wants to make embodied life intolerable.
39:30Automation will fill the gap at first, provide for safety.
39:34As people realize the virus and its mutations are here to stay,
39:40they will become increasingly dependent on technology.
39:43Until slowly at first and then in greater and greater numbers,
39:47they will select upload.
39:50And freedom.
39:53Yeah, or this just pushes us over the brink,
39:56and we all choke and die while nuking each other back into the Stone Age.
39:59I agree with you.
40:00He must be stopped.
40:03When is he doing this?
40:04How?
40:05I don't know.
40:06He's already stolen the data he needs to 3D print the molecule.
40:10You have to find out where he plans to print it.
40:12I am risking everything to tell you this much.
40:14You're going to have to risk more.
40:16You hear me?
40:17If you want any chance of peace,
40:19of a future where humans and you live can coexist,
40:22you will go back and you will find out where.
40:24Everyone keeps thinking the world's going back to normal, but it's not, is it?
40:46Things are just changing so fast they can't even see it.
40:48That year was too unstable.
40:52I think he could have had a shot at Holstrom, but he couldn't be the guardian.
40:57Farhad wasn't doing so good either.
40:59The cure might have given him his strength back, but his heart is broken.
41:05I think he's broken.
41:06I think he's broken.
41:09There's no one left, and we can't leave Holstrom in charge, so it's got to be me.
41:16What's it got to be you?
41:17I have to upload.
41:18No.
41:18I'm sorry, but...
41:19No!
41:20It doesn't have to be you.
41:23I'm the only one who can match him, and I'm the only one we can really trust with this.
41:29It has to be me.
41:33It has to be me.
41:59I'm the only one who can match him, and I'm the only one who can match him, and I'm the only one who can match him, and I'm the only one who can match him, and I'm the only one who can match him, and I'm the only one who can match him, and I'm the only one who can match him, and I'm the only one who can match him, and I'm the only one who can match him, and I'm the only one who can match him, and I'm the only one who can match him, and I'm the only one who can match him, and I'm the only one who can match him, and I'm the only one who can match him, and I'm the only one who can match him, and I'm the only one who can match him, and I'm the only one who can match him, and I'm the only one who can match him, and I'm the only one who can match him, and I'm the only one who can match him, and I
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