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Duckhorn CEO Touts Quality as Popular Wine Brand's Key Driver
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We're going to taste the Decoy Featherweight Cabernet Sauvignon. It's the recent launch,
00:06
most recent innovation in our Decoy Featherweight offering, which is the largest and fastest growing
00:11
lower alcohol, lower calorie offering within the wine category. The Cabernet is really unique.
00:17
It's about 9% alcohol, about 80 calories per serving. That's about a third less alcohol than
00:23
a typical Cabernet and about 50% the calories. It's tough to achieve a great tasting Cabernet
00:29
Sauvignon. That's low alk and low cow. So give it a taste and tell us what you think.
00:33
All right. Here we go. It smells delicious.
00:39
Uh-oh. Dead air on radio. It's okay. We're drinking wine.
00:42
We're just drinking wine over here.
00:43
We'll talk. Let's talk some more.
00:44
We're still here. We're just drinking.
00:45
That's really smooth. And you know what? I don't need to necessarily have it with food. It's just
00:51
like good straight up on its own.
00:52
Yeah. It's addressing, you know, there's a lot that's been reported about the dislocation of
00:57
the wine market. You know, we're excited about what we've achieved this year. We're excited
01:02
about 2026. 2026 is the 50th anniversary of the founding of the company. Dan and Margaret
01:07
Duckhorn founded the company 50 years ago on Merlot, which we're going to taste as well
01:11
at the different end of the market. The one we just tasted about $25 a bottle. The Merlot will
01:17
taste as one of our high-end luxury estate Merlots. But we're excited about what's happening.
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This wine we just tasted is leaning into one of the trends that's impacting especially
01:28
younger consumers' consumption in the category. Younger consumers are looking for value.
01:33
Pricing matters a lot. They're looking for, they're very conscious about consuming things
01:37
that are better for them. So having a better mint introduction and innovation in the category
01:41
is important. We're about to celebrate the first year anniversary of taking the company
01:46
private with Butterfly Equity, our sponsor. They only invest in food and beverage. They
01:52
understand craftsmanship. You know, if you're going to put it across your lips, it's got
01:55
to taste yummy. And we've got a strategy of competing in the best neighborhood, the best
02:02
street in the neighborhood, and the best house on the street.
02:04
So that was about a year ago that they came in. And this company has been public. It's been
02:09
taken private a couple of times, a few times. What changes have happened? I mean, you actually
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started with the company earlier this year in February. But what changes have been made now
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that this private equity company has come in and just used this past year?
02:21
Yeah. Well, look, we, for the reasons I've just explained, we think Butterfly Equity is a great
02:26
sponsor, a great partner for us. What I would say is one of the superpowers of the company I respected
02:31
when I first got to know it is the agility, the ability to innovate at the pace of the consumer
02:36
marketplace. And the market is demanding and consumers expect you to meet them on their playing
02:40
field, on their terms. That's how Butterfly thinks. What's changed? I would say the agility
02:46
is, the pace of the agility of the company has picked up. We've made some significant progress
02:52
in a very short period of time. If I, you know, reflect upon the analogy I just provided,
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neighborhood, street, house, we compete in the 15 and above price segment. The market's been
03:03
dislocated a bit. We can talk about that. But that's been driven by below 15 and especially
03:07
below 10. So we compete in the right neighborhood. One of the best examples of what's changed,
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we did a portfolio construction exercise over the past nine months, where we looked at our whole
03:18
portfolio, 11 brands, we've concentrated on seven, and four are really high growth core brands,
03:23
because we're winning with fewer things and focusing on the winners that matter, big, clear lanes of
03:30
competition, exceptional wines that compete against the best in the category. And we've actually
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increased our addressable market by almost $2 billion from $2 billion to $4 billion in that
03:42
exercise. And then the proof's in the pudding. So best house on the street. The team, I'm really
03:48
proud of them, have grown our market share from 10.4% to 11.7% during our hold period. So it's been
03:55
a busy, busy year. We've got a lot of air to travel. You'll hear duck analogies. We don't talk
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ground. We talk air. You'll hear duck analogies when we talk a lot. We have a lot of air to cover,
04:07
but we're excited about what we've accomplished so far. I just want to ask before I get ready to
04:11
pour the Merlot, when you think about kind of the recovery, we have so much. Bailey likes this part.
04:15
He likes pouring. This is the best. But when you think about kind of the state of the economy,
04:20
it does seem like the upper 5, 10% of the U.S. consumer is better off than really the bottom 90%.
04:27
Thinking about higher price wine, better wine, as you mentioned, best house on the best block,
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how do you think about attacking that consumer and whether you're seeing growth from them?
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Yeah, great question, Bailey. We're very conscious of it. Our intention is to remain a premium,
04:42
fine, and luxury still wine competitor. However, and I'll give you two examples specifically on price.
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We've talked about the better example, and then I want to talk to you about consumer experiences.
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With the focus, especially for younger consumers, on purchasing power, there's a little nervousness
05:00
around the socio-political and kind of economic environment. We're conscious of that. So two
05:08
ways we've reacted. One, we introduced an amazing new brand called Green Wing, which is a $15 to $20
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a bottle winery brand with amazing Cabernet from Washington and a Pinot Noir and Pinot Grigio from
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Willamette Valley in Oregon. That $15 to $20 bottle of wine can translate into a $12 by the glass program
05:28
if you're at a restaurant. A lot of younger consumers say they get more value out of spirits
05:33
or other categories. This is providing them an entry point into the wine category, kind of not
05:38
telling them what to drink, but inviting them into our portfolio and into the wine category
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based on value. And on the higher end of the market, we made a price adjustment on our
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Duckhorn Vineyards, Napa Valley Cabernet. It was priced at $72. We took the price down to $60
05:58
because it's a larger addressable market. And frankly, even for a fine wine consumer that can buy
06:04
wine at that level, recognizing we could produce the same or better quality, maintain or really,
06:09
we've got a structurally advantaged operating model with great margins. We could maintain
06:13
our margins and put out a more sharp price point for them. We're just meeting people on their terms
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in this economic environment and growing as a result.
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If you heard the pouring behind us and the popcorn, the corn popping is because we are having
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some Duckhorn Portfolio wine, right?
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If you're watching on YouTube, this is what we're about to taste is the 22 Merlot. And remind me,
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why is this a particularly nice Merlot?
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This is an exceptional Merlot. Now, I'm going to tell you, I've got a personal bias. I'm a Merlot fan.
06:45
Not everyone can remember, but I remember sideways.
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I was going to make the joke.
06:49
A film from 20 years ago that said you shouldn't drink Merlot. Completely wrong. Merlot,
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in my opinion, is the best varietal.
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Loved that movie.
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Loved the movie. Didn't love what it did for Merlot. Merlot is the easiest drinking wine.
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It's super great to pair with lots of different food choices. It's an easy drinking varietal.
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This wine is my favorite in our entire portfolio for two reasons. One, Dan and Margaret Duckhorn,
07:15
who respected nature, the craft of winemaking and hospitality, introduced this wine as their
07:20
first introduction 50 years ago. And we're celebrating our 50th anniversary next year and
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feel really good about the momentum of the company. It's an estate wine. It's a blend of 92% Merlot,
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7% Cab, and 1% Cabernet Franc. It is a luxury wine, so it trades for between $120 and $150 a bottle,
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but it's a beautiful wine. And I encourage all of your audience to drink Merlot.
07:44
Ryan is nodding profusely. Yes, it is.
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It is a great wine, right? It's yours.
07:50
Well, all right. For our audience who are just joining us right now, we are here in the studio
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talking wine and drinking wine with our guests here. Robert Hansen, CEO of the Duckhorn Portfolio,
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as well as Bloomer News Equities reporter Bailey Lipschel. So, Robert, you know, I want to touch on
08:07
what you said earlier, right, about the process of kind of going public, then private, and then
08:12
back again. And so, you know, you mentioned agility was one thing that really kind of was sustained in
08:19
a company throughout those changes. And, you know, talk to us about how that's serving you now that
08:25
the market is changing so rapidly. We have, on the one hand, Gen Z drinkers who just consume less
08:31
alcohol overall. And it seems like that's something that is maybe permeating throughout the broader
08:35
American public, right? I think Gallup was saying that just 54% of Americans in general say they drink
08:41
alcohol. That's a record load. How is the company thinking about these kind of structural changes
08:46
among consumers? Yeah. Well, I mean, great, great question. And as I mentioned earlier,
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it's true, as reported, that the market's been dislocated. That being said, we compete in the
08:56
segment of the market that has tailwinds 15 and above. And we're segmented from $15 a bottle up to
09:01
$300 a bottle. So in Stillwine, we are the, like, best house on the street. And we're growing
09:10
because we're competing from $15 to $300. We've got a segmentation of our portfolio that meets most
09:16
consumers' needs. More specifically, though, you know, a lot's been written about the betterment
09:22
trend, about drinking less but better quality. That is the focus of this portfolio. So you ask the
09:27
question, what's different? We've got our eye on the horizon. We're very much focused on meeting the
09:33
consumer on their playing field on their terms. They want to buy great value. They want to buy great
09:39
quality. They want lower alcohol content. In some cases, they want to drink less but better quality.
09:44
Our whole portfolio is about that.
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