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00:00The Netflix offer and the Paramount offer, they're not apples to apples because Paramount's offer includes the cable networks.
00:09Just give us the details there.
00:11Yeah, that's totally correct.
00:12So they're different numbers and they're different assets.
00:15Paramount wants the whole company.
00:17They want all of Warner Brothers Discovery, including those cable channels like CNN.
00:21Which would mean CNN would live alongside CBS, which would be this bizarro world that has never existed before but could exist in the future.
00:28Exactly.
00:28Netflix, they just want streaming in studios.
00:31Which makes sense because they don't have those assets right now.
00:35So it would be really outside of their core competency to bring in live TV.
00:40That's right.
00:41Yeah.
00:41And if Netflix takes it, we'll see the spinoff of Discovery Global.
00:46Those would be those cable networks.
00:48Okay.
00:48So then it raises the question of what ends up happening to those spinoffs and how are they valued?
00:52Yeah.
00:53So that's the huge question here that shareholders, the board, that's what they're looking at.
00:57And weighing these two offers.
00:59They're trying to determine which one is superior.
01:01And the value of those cable networks, that's a key factor in that.
01:05And Paramount is arguing that those cable networks are low, maybe around a dollar per share.
01:10And, you know, the lower that they wanted, the sweeter their deal looks.
01:15Yeah, exactly.
01:15I think we're kicking around $4 billion with our own internal Bloomberg Intelligence folks.
01:22Having said that, I think, you know, Hannah, you want to take a step back.
01:25Go back 10 years, 20 years.
01:26Who would have thunk, right, that the cable industry would be facing such troubles or declining audiences?
01:33But here we are.
01:34I mean, viewers have a lot of options.
01:37It's true.
01:37Yeah.
01:38And it's very interesting to see this consolidation play out.
01:41You know, you would maybe see two news organizations living alongside each other.
01:46You know, these struggling cable networks housed under one entity if Paramount gets it.
01:50So it'll be very interesting to see how this plays out.
01:52Well, you think about NBC or something, right, they moved into a business news channel.
01:57They have MSNBC or used to have MSNBC.
01:59Not anymore.
02:00But I'm saying the idea of Paramount having kind of a traditional network and then another cable network,
02:06some have thought, you know, they have some digital, I think, you know, offerings,
02:10but it doesn't necessarily make, it's not crazy.
02:14Yeah.
02:14I mean, and I think we have to remember here that, you know, the most valuable IP is that movie and studio stuff.
02:20We know Paramount is leaning really hard.
02:22Feeding the beast, the content.
02:22Feeding the beast.
02:23Yes.
02:24And David Ellison really wants to build out that Paramount Plus streaming service.
02:27But I think Carol brings up a really good point, and that's when this is what she was flicking at,
02:31this idea that, you know, even traditional media companies that have long had these storied cable assets,
02:37they're now trying to figure out what the future of those are.
02:40So you have, you know, CNBC and the company, or the network formerly known as MSNBC, now MSNOW,
02:46being spun off into this separate publicly traded entity that Comcast has ownership of called Versant.
02:52And, you know, they're trying to figure out, okay, how are we going to value that?
02:55Yeah.
02:55And it'll be interesting to see, you know, Versant is supposed to start trading in the new year.
03:00And that value, I mean, who knows?
03:02We'll see if that could play into what's happening with these negotiations.
03:05Good point.
03:05Good point.
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