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00:00Υπότιτλοι AUTHORWAVE

00:30Υπότιτλοι AUTHORWAVE

01:00EU editor, good morning Maria.

01:02Bring us up to speed on this story.

01:03There's a lot to digest this morning.

01:04Well, there's a lot and the EU really caught up in this vortex over the weekend,

01:09which, as you say, really started on the Friday morning

01:12when the US put out and Europeans found out

01:14about this national security strategy in this document.

01:18The US does say Europe is a natural ally,

01:21but they also argue in unusual language,

01:25which, to some extent, we could question whether or not is diplomatic,

01:27that Europe has to go back to its former greatness.

01:31It also argues that illegal, uncontrolled migration,

01:34bad economic policies, too much regulation,

01:37all of this put together could end the European civilization as we know it.

01:41The document presented by the US also welcomes European patriotic parties,

01:46who they argue are resisting this trajectory,

01:48and the US, they add, should help contribute to change this trajectory.

01:54Obviously, this is unusual language.

01:56It's not shocking.

01:57It's not really surprising,

01:58because it builds up, really, on the speech

02:00that the US Vice President J.D. Vance gave

02:03at the Munich Security Conference.

02:05The only difference, of course, is that it is now in writing.

02:08I should note, however, over the weekend,

02:10I spoke with European officials who told me,

02:12look, this document has little to do with national security

02:15and a lot about what they perceive is political interference.

02:20Now, the second part to this has to do with Elon Musk.

02:23The commission fined X 120 million euros

02:27for breaching transparency rules in the European Union.

02:30The fine, the amount, I should note, it's quite small

02:32compared to other penalties on US big tech.

02:35Nonetheless, it triggered a big response from Elon Musk,

02:39who's been tweeting about the European Union

02:40all over the weekend.

02:42He started, and hopefully we can put it up on the screen,

02:44saying the EU is not a democracy.

02:47It has become a bureaucracy.

02:49It should be dismantled, abolished the EU.

02:52Quite strong language.

02:53The commission is still defending this fine,

02:55saying it is appropriate.

02:57They believe they have a strong legal case,

02:58and if he disagrees, he can take it to court

03:01in a court of justice, of course.

03:02And, Maria, how has the EU been responding

03:04into the unprecedented language

03:05from the other side of the pond,

03:07from, in theory, their biggest ally?

03:09Yes.

03:09And, you know, when we look at the EU

03:11as an institution, very timidly,

03:13no word from the head of the commission,

03:15Ursula von der Leyen,

03:16no word from the head of the European Council either.

03:19But we did speak with Kaya Callas,

03:21the Foreign Office Chief Policy from the EU.

03:24She told us the way to look at this

03:26is that domestic issues have to be dealt

03:29by the EU on external matters and conflicts.

03:32We should still work together with the United States.

03:34Let's take a look.

03:36Let's focus on the things that we can do together.

03:39I mean, what we can take from that security strategy

03:43is that we are still, you know, allies with America.

03:47We don't always see eye to eye on everything,

03:50but it's our internal matters.

03:52We can handle ourselves.

03:53Let's focus on the global challenges

03:54that we actually have,

03:56which are, you know, economic cursive practices

03:58from China that we are both, you know, faced with,

04:02which is the threat that comes from malign actors

04:05like Russia, like China, like Iran.

04:09So we definitely need to focus on what we can do together

04:13and, you know, domestic issues.

04:16Let us let them be our domestic issues.

04:19And that was Kaya Callas speaking to your news note,

04:22how she said three times,

04:23these are domestic issues.

04:25That's for the EU.

04:26The capital's much stronger language.

04:28The French foreign minister saying the commission is right,

04:31and this is just the start.

04:32The Polish foreign minister, much stronger language.

04:35He tweeted directly at Elon Musk saying,

04:37go to Mars, there is no censorship for Nazi salutes there.

04:40Obviously, that's a reference to another controversy

04:43as to whether or not Elon Musk had made a Nazi salute

04:45at a rally at the start of this year.

04:48But maybe what we're seeing, of course,

04:49is a lot of cacophony

04:50because there is no single strategy

04:52in terms of how to deal with the United States at this point.

04:56For the EU, the institution, I repeat,

04:58it has been so far about de-escalation,

05:00hoping to stabilise the relationship,

05:02although that's not really been the case.

05:04The tariffs went ahead,

05:058 to 5 percent on Ukraine.

05:06Very difficult situation.

05:08But for the time being,

05:09the strategy continues to be,

05:10don't engage publicly.

05:11Indeed, a very tricky time for the transatlantic tie.

05:14Thank you so much, Maria Tadeo,

05:15Euronews' EU editor for that.

05:17And if you're listening to Maria's analysis there

05:19about Elon Musk and thinking,

05:21you have seen this movie before,

05:22you're right, it is not the first time

05:24the EU and Elon Musk find themselves

05:26in the online boxing ring.

05:28Our reporter, Jakob Janis, has this refresher.

05:30Over the weekend,

05:34there was yet another battle

05:35between the EU and Elon Musk,

05:37who claims the European Union

05:39should be dismantled.

05:41It sounds extreme,

05:43but if you look at the timetable,

05:45the bells have been ringing

05:46for some time already.

05:48Let's go back to July 2024.

05:51Musk claimed Brussels

05:53offered him a secret illegal deal

05:55to censor speech.

05:57Fact check.

05:58It was a standard compliance procedure

06:01offered to every platform,

06:03but Musk used it to frame himself

06:05as a victim.

06:07Then was August 2024.

06:09The European Commission

06:10sent a formal warning letter

06:12to follow EU law.

06:14In response, Musk tweeted

06:16a very non-diplomatic meme

06:18from the movie Tropic Thunder.

06:20In late 2024,

06:22he told German voters

06:24to back the far-right alternative

06:26for Deutschland.

06:27And then he attacked

06:29Italian judges on migration,

06:31claiming they need to go.

06:33And his current battle

06:34is against the 120 million euro fine

06:37for his social media platform, X.

06:40However, the fine

06:41is not about supposed censorship,

06:44but about consumer fraud.

06:46It means selling verification

06:48to anyone, including bots,

06:50actively blocking researchers

06:52from seeing public data

06:54and hiding who actually pays

06:57for the arts you see.

07:01Given that the penalty

07:02is well below

07:03the maximum possible fine,

07:06we need to ask one question.

07:08Is the game you play, Elon,

07:10actually about business?

07:12Or maybe it's about something else?

07:14Jakob Yanis there.

07:20Well, coming up,

07:21we'll be joined by

07:21Svetlana Tikhanovskaya,

07:23the exiled opposition leader

07:25of the Belarusian Democratic Movement,

07:27who emerged after challenging

07:28Belarus' authoritarian leader

07:30Alexander Lukashenko

07:31in the 2020 presidential election.

07:34Forced to flee her home country,

07:36she now dedicates her time

07:37to advocating

07:38for democratic Belarus

07:39and resisting the regime's role

07:41in Russia's war

07:42against Ukraine.

07:42Svetlana Tikhanovskaya.

07:44Great to have you with us here

07:45on Europe Today.

07:46Good morning.

07:47Welcome to Brussels.

07:48First, how is your husband,

07:50Sergei, doing?

07:51He was released this summer

07:52after many years

07:52behind bars in Belarus.

07:54He's gone through

07:55the process of rehabilitation

07:57because all the political prisoners

07:59are really exhausted physically,

08:00but he's not broken mentally

08:02and gave a boost of energy

08:04to our movement.

08:05And of course,

08:06it was thanks to the Americans

08:07that helped orchestrate his release.

08:09We saw Keith Kellogg there

08:10engaging in dialogue

08:11with Lukashenko.

08:12Do you trust them now

08:13to help end the war in Ukraine?

08:16Look, we all want peace.

08:18And of course,

08:19I'm so grateful

08:19to President Trump personally

08:20and his team

08:21for releasing political prisoners

08:23from Belarus.

08:25But of course,

08:26the future of our country

08:27depends on the outcome

08:28of the war in Ukraine.

08:29And of course,

08:30we all want just

08:32and long-lasting peace,

08:33not just, you know,

08:34temporary relief

08:35to give opportunity

08:37to Russia to regroup

08:38and start attacking again.

08:39but also what is important

08:41for us

08:42is that during these negotiations,

08:44Belarus aspect

08:45is also included,

08:46that Belarus

08:47is not giving

08:47a cancellation price

08:48to Putin,

08:49that Belarus

08:49will not lose

08:50our independence

08:51and that's why

08:52we need

08:53a strong Europe

08:55as a player

08:56in these negotiations

08:57that will be the voice

08:58of Belarusian people.

09:00Because a bad deal

09:01for Ukraine

09:01would be detrimental,

09:03I imagine,

09:03for Belarus.

09:04Absolutely, yes.

09:04We understand that

09:05if Ukraine loses

09:08this war,

09:09hopefully it will not happen

09:10and we'll keep

09:11strong alliance

09:12around Ukraine,

09:14it will mean

09:14a status quo

09:16for Belarus for rages

09:17and Russia will continue

09:18to subjugate our country.

09:20But how would you describe

09:21the current talks

09:22taking place?

09:22We saw three days of talks

09:23in Florida this weekend,

09:24there was no breakthrough.

09:25Are they really peace talks

09:27or are they more surrender talks?

09:29It depends on

09:30the strong position

09:32of Europe,

09:33first of all.

09:33Of course,

09:34you know,

09:34President Trump,

09:35he might want

09:37fast peace

09:39in Ukraine,

09:40but for us

09:40it's more about

09:41security architecture,

09:42it's about region,

09:44it's more than about

09:45only Ukraine,

09:45it's about all

09:46European neighbourhoods,

09:48Moldova,

09:49Belarus,

09:50Georgia,

09:50Armenia,

09:50so on and so forth.

09:51So that's why

09:52here Europe

09:54has to remain

09:55with its strong,

09:56bold and firm position

09:58and defending

09:59and protecting

10:00all our region.

10:02Do you think

10:03Europe has been

10:03too weak so far

10:04in these talks?

10:07I think that

10:08Europe is much

10:09stronger than

10:10it might seem,

10:12it might think

10:13about itself,

10:14but

10:15we maybe need

10:17more unity,

10:18more boldness

10:19because

10:19any hesitation

10:21or

10:22undecisiveness

10:23is percepted

10:24as weakness

10:25by dictators

10:26and

10:26now we see

10:28that

10:28Russia

10:29together with

10:30the other regimes

10:30and Lukashenko

10:31they are testing

10:32the borders

10:33of

10:34Europe.

10:35Well,

10:36we can see that.

10:37I mean,

10:37the EU has been

10:37furious as well

10:38with these

10:39balloon incursions

10:40coming into Lithuania,

10:41Lithuania declaring

10:42a state of emergency

10:42and the Belarusian

10:44appointee here in

10:45Brussels

10:45has been summoned

10:45by the Commission.

10:46What's going on

10:47and what's behind this?

10:48Now,

10:49all these

10:49metal balloons

10:51and drones,

10:52it's part of

10:54hybrid

10:54attacks on

10:56Europe,

10:57the same as

10:57migration crisis

10:58and hijacking

11:00of airplanes

11:00so on and so forth.

11:01so we see

11:02how

11:03dictators

11:04are trying

11:05to

11:06blackmail,

11:08constantly

11:08blackmail

11:08Europe

11:09just to

11:10see how

11:10far

11:11they can

11:11go

11:11without

11:12a strong

11:12response.

11:14And in

11:14our case,

11:14I think

11:15that it's

11:15a very

11:15effective tool

11:18to close

11:18the borders

11:19for trade,

11:20for goods,

11:21but not

11:21for people.

11:22Just be

11:22tough on

11:23the regimes,

11:24but be

11:24very open

11:25for the

11:26societies.

11:27And Belarus,

11:28Lukashenko,

11:28he's also been

11:29weaponizing

11:29migration,

11:30we've seen

11:30a lot.

11:31Yeah,

11:31you know,

11:32it's

11:32last many

11:33years already

11:33and these

11:34migrations

11:35attacks are

11:36continuing.

11:37It's also

11:37one more

11:39tool in

11:41dictators'

11:42hands

11:42how to

11:43weaken

11:43or test

11:44or blackmail

11:45our

11:46Western

11:46neighbors.

11:47And finally,

11:48President Zelensky

11:48will travel

11:49to London

11:49today.

11:50He'll be

11:50sitting down

11:50with Friedrich

11:51Merz,

11:51the German

11:51Chancellor,

11:52President

11:53Macron of

11:53France.

11:54Any

11:54expectations

11:54for those

11:55talks today?

11:57I hope

11:58that it

11:59will be

11:59unity

12:00around

12:01Ukraine,

12:01about

12:02our

12:02region,

12:02that

12:03Ukraine

12:03will be

12:04given

12:04everything

12:04they need

12:05to win

12:06this war.

12:07We don't

12:07have to

12:08follow

12:09President

12:10Trump's

12:11path because

12:12his approach

12:13is more

12:13transactional,

12:14but we

12:14have to

12:14think more

12:15strategically

12:16about

12:16security

12:19architecture

12:19for years

12:20ahead.

12:21Thank

12:22you so

12:23much for

12:23coming

12:23to us

12:23today

12:24here

12:24and

12:24speaking

12:25to

12:25us

12:25on

12:25Europe

12:25Today.

12:26Meanwhile,

12:27this Monday

12:27in Brussels,

12:28EU

12:29Justice

12:29Ministers

12:29from all

12:30across the

12:31bloc will

12:31be gathering

12:32for talks

12:32on the

12:32implementation

12:33of the

12:34EU

12:34Migration

12:35Pact.

12:36Their

12:36gathering

12:36takes place

12:37after reports

12:37came from

12:38Crete this

12:38weekend that

12:3918 people

12:40lost their

12:40lives trying

12:41to cross

12:42the Mediterranean

12:42Sea.

12:43Ida Sanchez

12:44reports.

12:47Migration

12:47management

12:48in the

12:48EU

12:49takes a

12:49big step

12:50this Monday.

12:51For the

12:51first time

12:52ever,

12:52four EU

12:53countries

12:53will receive

12:54direct

12:55help.

12:57Italy,

12:58Greece,

12:59Cyprus and

12:59Spain

13:00will benefit

13:01from a

13:01so-called

13:02solidarity

13:02pool,

13:03set up

13:04to better

13:04manage

13:05migration

13:05flows.

13:08From

13:08relocations

13:09to cash

13:09injections,

13:11countries

13:11should be

13:11able to

13:12rely on

13:12this

13:13support.

13:14But until

13:14ministers

13:15make a

13:15decision

13:16today

13:16in

13:17Brussels,

13:17the

13:18proposal

13:18made

13:18by

13:19the

13:19Commission

13:19is

13:20just

13:20an

13:20idea.

13:23Asked

13:24how much

13:24and who

13:25will pay

13:25is still

13:26the big

13:27question

13:27on the

13:28table.

13:29One

13:29thing

13:30is

13:30clear.

13:30Under

13:31the

13:31new

13:31migration

13:32and

13:32asylum

13:32pact,

13:33no

13:33country

13:34will

13:34be

13:34forced

13:35to

13:35accept

13:35relocations.

13:38This

13:38was

13:38one

13:39of

13:39the

13:39most

13:39controversial

13:40points

13:40of

13:40the

13:40proposal.

13:42Countries

13:42like

13:42Poland

13:43and

13:43Hungary

13:43completely

13:44opposed

13:44the idea.

13:46Last month,

13:46the European

13:47Commission

13:47presented their

13:48first annual

13:49report on

13:50migration flows

13:51in its

13:51country.

13:53They

13:54identified who

13:55they thought

13:56needed support.

13:59The so-called

14:00solidarity

14:01mechanism,

14:02one of the most

14:02controversial

14:03parts of the

14:04migration pact,

14:05will be

14:05applied from

14:06June

14:06in 2026.

14:16And for

14:16more on

14:17the outcome

14:17of those

14:18talks in

14:18Brussels

14:18today,

14:19keep an

14:19eye on

14:20Euronews.com.

14:21But that

14:22brings this

14:22Monday's

14:23edition of

14:24Europe

14:24Today to

14:25an end.

14:25Thank you so

14:26much for

14:26tuning in and

14:27for being

14:27with us.

14:27We'll be

14:27back, of

14:28course,

14:28tomorrow

14:28morning again

14:29with another

14:29episode.

14:30See you

14:30then and

14:31take care.

14:31Euronews.

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