Sean Combs- The Reckoning - Season 1 Episode 02- What Goes Down Must Come Up
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00:00Happy birthday to you, everybody!
00:23I always looked at him as just being like this rich Harlem cat who just want to dance and
00:48make money.
00:49No violence in him, but every time I turn around, there's violence.
01:04There's violence with his name on it.
01:10At the time, there's this tension that is going on between Pac and Puff.
01:18Puff wanted to work with Pac on a lot of levels business-wise, and Pac wasn't having it.
01:23He was more interested in Biggie and his crew.
01:29Puff was very threatened by Pac.
01:31He was very threatened, especially if you're an executive who wants the guy to make you
01:36money, and the guy is saying, no, fuck you.
01:40Around that time, Tupac was going to do a song with Lil Sean at Quiet Studio.
01:49Out of the blue, they wanted me to do the song, so I said, all right.
01:52Stopped off to get some weed, smoked the weed.
01:55Then I was getting a page, where you at, where you at, where you at?
01:58Why you ain't coming?
01:59I was like, I'm coming, I'm on my way, hold on.
02:01I wasn't thinking, why they want me here so bad?
02:04We're walking up to the building.
02:06Somebody screamed from the upper top of the studio, and it's Lil' Caesar.
02:10He's like Biggie's side man, right?
02:12We was in the recording with Big and Puff, and I'm yelling, like, yo, Pac.
02:15And he looked up, yo, what's up, little nigga?
02:18I go back in the room, I tell Big, I'm like, yo, Big, Pac downstairs.
02:21He was like, oh, all right, go get him.
02:23Getting to the elevator, and when I was about to walk out, two dudes came from both sides.
02:28Get the fuck back in the elevator.
02:30Shit.
02:32Recording artist Tupac Shakur was shot five times last night in a robbery attack.
02:36After surgery, his condition was upgraded to satisfactory, and he checked out of the hospital
02:41against his doctor's advice.
02:43I think they're trying to rub me out, really.
02:45Robbers don't leave behind $80,000 Rolexes, you know what I mean?
02:49They don't do that, in case nobody knows.
02:52Let's look at the facts.
02:56Puff is there.
02:57Pac has been shot in New York under your watch.
03:01Question would be, who knew that he was pulling up?
03:04Biggie, knowing myself, had nothing to do whatsoever of Tupac being robbed.
03:13That's just a fact.
03:15After everything that has unfolded, I have to think twice about how that situation went
03:20down.
03:21Do you think Puffy was robbed, Sugar?
03:23I believe so.
03:24I do believe so.
03:25I have proof.
03:26You can see now why someone like a Puff would want someone like a Pop out the picture.
03:32You know, Pop was vilified while he was alive, and Puff was exalted.
03:41That's the bigger picture.
03:43And that's the story that hasn't been told.
03:55Obviously, Mark Lee, AJ Brown, what have you, it allows them to get a clearer picture,
04:01stretching the defense horizontally faster, right?
04:04And it also, conversely, makes the defense think a tick longer.
04:08Yeah.
04:09Like, that shit was crazy to me, that shit wasn't there, which is a sign to me like,
04:21nigga, time to order the future.
04:22Time to order the future.
04:23That was a little building.
04:25For the building that I got, you know what I'm saying?
04:29It was a sign to me like that, but I'm saying, that shit was there like two months ago, right?
04:34Puff is in this position where he has all this turmoil, but he's not at the point where
04:52he's saying, where I went wrong.
04:55He's saying to himself, how do I get out of this?
04:59Maybe I can convince some witnesses that I'm not the guy who I am.
05:05Eventually, he's going to get to the point where he's going to ask himself, how did I
05:09get myself into this situation?
05:11And Biggie.
05:2295, he had two of the hottest acts.
05:25Craig Mack gave us flavor in your ear.
05:27Here goes the brand new flavor.
05:30Time for new flavor in your ear.
05:32And Biggie.
05:33Come up in your waist.
05:34Please don't suit up the place.
05:35Why?
05:36Cause I see some ladies tonight that should be having my...
05:39Bad boy was rising up.
05:40My little lab right here, you know, where I cut my deals and all that.
05:44Got my little headset.
05:45He's living out a dream, you know what I'm saying?
05:47One time, Sean was in his office and I'm in a little cubby hole around the corner.
05:51He buzzes me.
05:53So I get up and I go in with my papers and go.
05:57A girl is giving him a blow job at the desk.
06:00He wanted me to see that.
06:03He wanted me to see her face.
06:05And then he was able to get her to do that right then and there in the office.
06:08She leaves.
06:10I'm, what did you want me for?
06:12Ah, I didn't want you for anything.
06:14That was the beginning for me to see this is what's going on here.
06:20Can everybody in here make some noise for B.I.G. for bringing it back to the East?
06:24So the seeds for all of this was early on.
06:28And that came from people in the industry co-signing his activity because it brought money in.
06:40I don't know if y'all niggas know this.
06:43The Juicy with platinum.
06:45The Big Purple with platinum.
06:47The Big Purple in your ear remix with platinum.
06:50That whole bad boy thing was so big.
06:54Faith Evans.
06:55I'm gonna be first lady on her daddy's lady.
06:57Total.
07:00Biggie.
07:02In Greg Man.
07:04The thing over here is Greg Man.
07:06It was a consistent back-to-back-to-back-to-back.
07:13So let me just give you a day in the life of Puff Daddy.
07:17Gets up from wherever he stayed that night.
07:21Heads to the office two hours late.
07:24You might have somebody pulling him over saying,
07:26Hey, ain't you in that video?
07:27Ain't that you?
07:28Oh, yo, here go a demo.
07:29I had the big baseball bat cell phones.
07:35And the phone might ring.
07:37Such-and-such is on the phone calling from jail.
07:39Yo, I'm coming home.
07:41You might have a group standing in front of the office.
07:44Already with the microphone ready to sing.
07:46You love me, I love...
07:48Just to get their shot at Puffy.
07:51Everybody wants to see him.
07:53He is now the new gateway into music.
07:55You're gonna take all of this power and money you're getting now
08:01and play by the rules?
08:04No, I'm the rule now.
08:05I am the exception to the rule.
08:08Puff Daddy!
08:13You know what I'm saying?
08:16One day, it seemed like out of the blue, my door opens up.
08:22Sean walks in.
08:24He had a baseball bat.
08:26Had a big attach-a-case suitcase with the snaps on it.
08:30The stocks were there.
08:32We in a fucking hustle.
08:33We in a grind.
08:34Do your job.
08:35Whatever your...
08:36He wanted me to sign my 25% over.
08:39And Diddy's over me like this.
08:41He wants to stop that.
08:43He wants it now.
08:44I'm not gonna stay fucking lying down.
08:46I'm not.
08:47I can't do that, man.
08:48He said, there's a business deal I need to take care of.
08:51I need to do this.
08:52I need to get this all on one side, but I'll give it back to you.
08:55I'm gonna give it back to you.
08:57Shit ain't fucking funny.
08:58That's the problem.
08:59You don't know how to be a accountant.
09:02And he threatened until I did.
09:07People always say to me, why would you do that?
09:12Like, why did you do that?
09:14Like, that was, you know...
09:20I didn't want to give it back.
09:21I wanted to stay in good graces.
09:23I still wanted to be at the company.
09:26It wasn't like he was firing me.
09:29But I was definitely confused by it.
09:33It might sound strange, but if you've ever built something and you want it to last, you think about how to make it last.
09:42I thought he was kind of cool at first, and then we started seeing some things.
10:03Craig started becoming disenchanting.
10:07I want to congratulate Craig Mack on his Grammy nomination.
10:11No question.
10:12Yes, baby, yeah.
10:13That's cool.
10:14Yo, you got nominated for a Grammy, but we had no money.
10:19If you look at Bad Boy, Bad Boy didn't sell enough records to explain his wealth.
10:26But enough artists were on the label that sold enough records to explain his wealth.
10:34Someone's trick was, I'm going to make you a star.
10:36You sign, follow the money.
10:38That's what you're going to try to do as hard as you can.
10:41You're going to try your best, and we know you're going to try your best.
10:44So you sign your deal.
10:45We gave you your advance.
10:46At Uptown, that's the only money the artists have ever seen, that first advance.
10:50Andre had to wait it.
10:51He never saw anything else.
10:52Did he pick that up?
10:54He made it even tighter.
10:57Don't leave the girl around me, true player for real.
11:00Let's Puff that be.
11:01It's a shell game.
11:03You hide everything that is an earning.
11:06You confuse the earnings.
11:08And now I own everything.
11:09You'll go out into the world.
11:11In the shell game, you'll be looking for your money for the next 20 years.
11:14Sean did that to every artist.
11:18You're in the studio.
11:20Now you have to recoup for being in the studio.
11:23Puff owns the studio.
11:26And I have four sessions, which you owe me $400,000.
11:30If Puff records a song with his artist, he pays himself.
11:36If he's in your video, he pays himself.
11:39He insert himself into their videos.
11:42A video come on, you'll be like, I fucking hate that guy.
11:44As an artist, you can go number one.
11:46The song is being played all over the nation.
11:49But you don't have the money to go to it because you're not making the proper money off of your royalties.
11:55Craig and I hit a point where we were fucked up.
12:01No money, nothing.
12:02Hell, I was getting money from my father to take care of the house.
12:08We were all at, like, somebody's album release party.
12:13And Craig's going to tell Puff to give him a few dollars and he'll hit him back once he went and did this show.
12:19He literally went in his pocket and pulled out a knot of money this big and gave him $100 bill.
12:30You really just don't give a fuck.
12:34I think Sean had an envy for his own artists.
12:40He was jealous of their talent and wondering, like, this talent is wasted on people who don't even really know what to do.
12:47And if I had that talent in my know-how, wow.
12:51That's interesting because a lot of people Puffy's age want to grab this mic and rap.
12:56But Puffy, you wanted to do other things and you're doing a lot of them.
13:00Can you talk about his skills as a rapper?
13:02Sucks.
13:03He has zero talent musically, nothing.
13:05He don't know how to discuss.
13:06He don't know nothing about R&B.
13:07He don't know none of that stuff.
13:08He used to ask me to always be there on the sessions because I would tell the truth.
13:12I'd be like, that's not it.
13:14People would be there like, yeah, that was tight.
13:16That was tight.
13:17I'd be like, look, for real, you got a lot of people who just tell you anything.
13:21That sucked.
13:22It doesn't sound good and it makes no sense.
13:26But he always wanted to be an artist.
13:30We're about to just drop our R&B stuff.
13:32The Puff Daddy album.
13:33Yeah, what about the Puff Daddy solo project?
13:35Yeah, we don't like to talk about that to me.
13:38Sean used other methods and ways to get the way he had to go.
13:45Big on strategy, big on swag.
13:49All of those things became important.
13:51When the ball down to the music, even if I didn't touch it, I showed you what to do.
13:56So that's what he was.
13:57Damn, you know what I'm saying?
13:58What?
13:59Right here, right there.
14:00Damn, you know what I'm saying?
14:01Shit.
14:02Where's the makeup at?
14:03Makeup.
14:04Right here, man.
14:05The whole bad boy was built on him.
14:08You cannot take that from him.
14:11But I think that Puffy wanted the light, like he always wanted.
14:16From dancing the whole night, you see anybody that's boasted and loud like that, they want
14:19to be in the spotlight.
14:21It wasn't like no secret, that's what he wanted.
14:26Six foot three, 335 pound, Suge Knight has managed to become the head of a hundred million
14:33dollar record company.
14:34It's the record label at ground zero of the whole gangster rap phenomenon, Death Row Records.
14:40Suge was about that money, but he didn't want to be in that limelight like Puff.
14:46He had his own lane.
14:48You're a big guy and there are people who are afraid of you.
14:51There's probably people who are afraid of you.
14:53Back in 1988, the person who did the greatest job of protecting me was the head of my security
14:58at the time, Suge Knight.
15:00Right now I'm on the heartbreak tour with Bobby Brown in New Edition and we've been out
15:04since September.
15:05We're about to get on the tour bus and these dudes came over and he was like talking crazy.
15:09Y'all niggas this, y'all niggas that, this, this, this.
15:14And I seen Suge kind of just turned this way and gave him one of these.
15:20Bam!
15:21Like that.
15:22And knocked dude down the hill.
15:24And it looked like a cartoon.
15:25Dude was rolling down the hill.
15:27Boom, boom.
15:28It's Tim's skateboard.
15:29He's a street dude.
15:31He's a real street dude.
15:33But Suge knew talent and he knew business.
15:36They took me on tour and I learned how every person who's writing songs is getting beat
15:43out their money, like they're publishing.
15:44He was able to dovetail that into starting Death Row Records.
15:48One, two, three, bring it to the folk.
15:51Snoop Doggy Dogg and Dr. Dre is at the door.
15:54Death Row can be bigger than Motel or Sony or Warner Brothers.
15:59Death Row is going to be the biggest record company there is.
16:02Chronic album is the foundation.
16:04Before Bad Boy, Death Row was the most successful label in the business.
16:11Sean had admired Death Row and wanted us to emulate them.
16:17And that was my job.
16:19How do I make Bad Boy equal to success of Death Row?
16:24And of course, my eyes was like this.
16:26Death Row?
16:27They had a head start.
16:29They had artists.
16:30They picked superstars up from other indie labels.
16:32We're starting off.
16:34Me and him were friends.
16:36Wow.
16:37Yeah, yeah.
16:38He would pick me up from the airport.
16:39You know, I was just networking with the brother and show me a lot of love.
16:43You know, I really had thought we were cool.
16:46Me and Puffy, we used to run around with each other.
16:48He was getting into business.
16:49I was in the business.
16:51Living life without fear.
16:53Putting fire...
16:54Only a few years later, Bad Boy, Death Row.
16:57Death Row is the label that pays, man.
16:59The two hottest labels.
17:02But I would look over at Death Row and say,
17:05they're taking care of their artists better than we are.
17:08They're putting your head, fuck the artists.
17:11And my thing was opposite.
17:13It's about me and my people.
17:15Fuck you.
17:17Craig wasn't happy there.
17:20Death Row was courting him.
17:22Because Should was opening up a Death Row East.
17:25And it was found out.
17:27Shot by the face.
17:28Yes.
17:29It's the Source Hip Hop Music Awards!
17:39The Source Awards was happening in New York City.
17:46Come on, New York!
17:48And behind the scenes, people were running back and forth to the next dressing room, to the next dressing room, which were in trailers, parked outside of Madison Square Garden.
17:58How important is it to have the Source Awards?
18:01Let me just wait and find it.
18:03You got that?
18:04Come on, man. Who bagging on the door like that?
18:06What is the deal, man? Keep the door closed!
18:10And it escalated with words from the podium at the awards show.
18:15Any artists out there who want to be an artist and want to stay a star and don't want to have to worry about the executive producer trying to be all in the videos, all on the record, dancing.
18:27Come to Death Row.
18:37I'm the executive producer that a comment was made about a little bit earlier.
18:41But check this out.
18:42Contrary to what other people may feel, I would like to say that I'm very proud of Dr. Dre, of Death Row, and Shook Knight for their accomplishments.
18:51You know what I'm saying?
18:53I'm a positive black man, and I make music to bring us together, not to separate us.
18:58And all this East and West that needs to stop.
19:00So give it up for everybody from the East and the West that won tonight.
19:04One love.
19:06Sean wants to present strength.
19:08He wants to show coolness.
19:12And then there's a side of him that's all out dark.
19:16He processes things differently.
19:18He remembers every slight.
19:23Once again, y'all, please give it up for all the nominees.
19:27Before I signed with Bad Boy, I was working at the door of the club in Platinum House.
19:48Every Friday we had a bad boy party.
19:52So Puff was there.
19:54Suge Knight came that night with his friend Jake.
19:58And I was working the door.
19:59Suge was looking for Puff.
20:01Sean would try to go after people's side chicks, like a girl in Atlanta that Suge was dealing with.
20:14Sean wanted me to take $50,000 out of the overhead account so he could buy her a diamond necklace,
20:22wooing her because she was Suge's side piece in Atlanta when he came there.
20:31A real police officer in a real police uniform came and got on the shape.
20:37I said, man, you touch the homie. We're going to tear this mother up.
20:41He said, well, I got to throw him out. I said, for what?
20:43He said, he was puppy.
20:44Suge and Jake is being escorted out the club by the off-duty officer we always had there moonlighting.
20:55Jake comes out, Suge come out, Puff come out. Everybody's outside.
21:01A man appeared with one hand behind his back and he was holding a pistol.
21:07He touched Jake with the pistol and he looked at Suge like this and was shooting Suge Fran like this.
21:18He shot him five times.
21:23Suge grabbed the hold to Puffy and the choke hold and put him in the front of him like this.
21:30So he was moving Puff around like this in case you shoot him.
21:33You're going to shoot Puffy. You're not going to shoot me.
21:35Puff was like, it's going to be all right, man. It's going to be all right.
21:43Suge said, what you mean it's going to be all right?
21:47He said, tell your mama it's going to be all right.
21:50Tell your kids it's going to be all right.
21:53And then the shooter ran.
21:59Ambulance came and took Jake to the hospital.
22:02A couple of days later, he died.
22:06That's what started the East Coast, West Coast war.
22:12We're through. We're through. We're through. We're through. We're through.
22:15We're through. We're through. We're through.
22:17Tupac Shakur out of the hospital after surgery from bullet wounds is convicted on sex charges.
22:21After Puff gets shot in Quad studio. He had the rape case.
22:27A New York jury convicted the rapper of first degree sexual abuse, but acquitted him of more serious charges.
22:32Since your period of incarceration at Clinton Correctional Facility, have you taken the time to reflect on your gangster thug image?
22:43Puck and Big were friends at one time. But then once Puck is in jail, Bad Boy and all of his associations were nemesises.
22:56When I'm in jail, strangers is telling me, you know, you don't know? Big your old boy shot you.
23:04Cause they bragging. They telling their in jail. Yo, we just got Puck.
23:08Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
23:11Once the conflict happens, Puck needed someone strong that was going to stand with him.
23:19And it just so happened that Suge had his own issues with Puffy.
23:25So, Suge went to jail and visited him.
23:28the whole shit is like some mob shit into Tupac a young cat I'm gonna join the family dog get me out
23:41Suge Knight first signed Tupac to a recording contract when Tupac was in this New York state
23:49prison unable to come up with the million dollars needed for bail while his lawyers
23:53appealed a 1995 conviction for sexual assault I want everybody give a big welcome Tupac
24:04out on bail rapper Tupac Shakur's rushed to market double album all eyes on me debuts at number one
24:12on this week's billboard chart with the addition of Tupac there's no way y'all can stop us now
24:16we're coming to the east coast to prove there is no fear
24:23overthrow the government y'all got right man which is bad boy and all that bullshit
24:27and we will bring a new government here that will feed every person in New York
24:31Sean tried everything to get Biggie upset he had to go at him with business this guy came at us
24:42I was more in a mind frame
24:44keep your mouth shut big you know what I'm saying this don't feed into it if you feed into it
24:53it's gonna do nothing but escalate you know what I'm saying Biggie never wanted to be an enemy to
24:58Park as things was coming from the west coast Biggie did not want to give any shots back when
25:06Park was producing all eyes on me he called us and said I just fucked faith evidence big's wife
25:13he's like what
25:16Sean kept putting pressure on Biggie you gotta answer back
25:34Tupac would have me pissed off you know what I'm saying and the rumors that's spreading
25:40it's on some tip like we set them up you know what I'm saying and that's crazy
25:44the east coast west coast thing was invented period because no matter what we all went to the east
25:51they came here went to the west whatever they wasn't arguing with each other when we was able to roam
25:56fuck biggie fuck bad boy as a staff record label and as a motherfucking crew
26:00it was this bad boy in death row
26:02and that right there put people in danger because it made people be like F you F you and people started
26:11doing stuff for no reason because there's no it's just people that want to ride for each other
26:15and then look what happened so
26:17doing the street thing my affiliation was with the Mansfield hustlers
26:28today
26:30we go by Mansfield gangster crips now
26:35police say the drugs and violence are being spread by two long-standing rivals in the Los Angeles youth
26:42gang scene groups who call themselves crips and wear blue colors and bloods who wear red
26:47did you guys provide protection Sean Combs was a friend
26:54Christopher Wallace was a friend
26:57and you know when we hanging out with our friends
27:02we don't protect our friends so they knew
27:07and they were our associates you got beef with them you got beef with me period
27:15a number of reports have come out bad boy entertainment had actually hired crips for security work out on the west coast is that true
27:21um we've never hired crips or any other gang faction to do security for us
27:30it would be extremely unintelligent to hire um a gang some gangs to do security for you
27:36a lot of the new york guys come out to la
27:39zip is a person that i know
27:42that was puppy's man that was his guy
27:46eric von zip is a drug lord from harlem but sean told me he was his uncle
27:54he might have known janice on the fringe he might have known sean's father from those days
27:59zip had a relationship with the south side crips and then he also had a relationship with us
28:07sean said zip can give us protection going back and forth to la because he was in with the crips
28:15and we had a beef with suge knight and the bloods
28:19knight dresses in all red the colors of the drug dealing blood street gang
28:24one of the death row people got jumped by someone at a mall
28:32and that someone was from south side crips
28:35one of the crips tried to take a death row chain
28:39i think that was an order from bad boy that was an order from
28:42puff because it was specific we want a death row chain
28:46introducing the one and only iron mike tyson
28:57everybody got what they wanted that night
29:00people got to see tyson knock a motherfucker out
29:04and tyson with a left hook and selling his down it's over in the first round
29:09that's probably the reason this guy was all fucked up in a lot of shit from fight night
29:17when you seen a tyson fight you want to fight
29:29at the fight the guy who was ripped off for the death row chain is with suge and pop
29:36he just whispers to pop that's him hey hey hey hey it was orlando anderson from south side crips
29:48who was connected with puff next thing i know i see park like
29:54took his name down
29:56That was the foundational moment
30:07when all this was getting out of control.
30:10I'm out on one right now.
30:13I got a double guy shot and medical ASAP.
30:19Rapper Tupac Shakur was shot in the chest.
30:22This morning shot multiple times in the chest
30:24in a drive-by shooting.
30:25Death Row record label owner Marion Suge Knight
30:28was also in the car, but his injuries were minor.
30:31Craig called me up.
30:33It was late.
30:35He was out there at the fight
30:37because he was supposed to have performed
30:39at some club that Suge owned.
30:44And I guess Tupac was supposed to come through.
30:46He was like, how come Tupac just got shot?
30:51Craig was, like, scared.
30:53Who was he scared of?
30:54Probably Puff.
30:57He ended up not going to death row after that.
31:04Hi, I'm Tabitha Soren with MTV News.
31:06Controversial rapper and actor Tupac Shakur
31:08has died in a Las Vegas hospital
31:10of complications from several...
31:12I was in jail.
31:13I was in jail when he got shot.
31:16There was a lot of niggas in jail
31:18that was celebrating Puff's death.
31:22I'm glad that I didn't kill anybody
31:25or anybody killed me.
31:27But I damn sure came close.
31:29Police in Las Vegas say they have no motive
31:34for this latest shooting,
31:35but the rapper's troubled past
31:37will certainly be part of the investigation.
31:41Do you know who was responsible
31:43for the killing of Tupac Shakur?
31:45No, I don't.
31:46I think that Sean now,
31:50in my mature mind,
31:52had a lot to do
31:53with the death of Tupac.
31:55In 2006,
32:04I was recruited
32:05to work a task force
32:07that was going to look
32:09at a cold case investigation.
32:11At the time,
32:12Tupac's murder
32:13was an unsolved case.
32:16Gang crimes oftentimes
32:17are difficult to solve
32:18because you don't get
32:19cooperating witnesses.
32:21They want to stick to a code
32:23that typically entails
32:25not cooperating
32:26with law enforcement
32:27and then taking matters
32:28into your own hands.
32:30It ain't my job
32:31to snitch on nobody
32:33because I would never
32:33snitch on nobody.
32:35We had built
32:36a narcotics case
32:37against Keefee Dee.
32:39Keefee Dee was kind of
32:40the shock caller
32:41for the Southside Crips.
32:43He was the most prominent
32:44drug dealer.
32:45He was very influential
32:46in his gang.
32:48His nephew,
32:49Orlando Anderson,
32:50was a very well-known
32:52violent gang member.
32:54Tupac Shakur
32:55had assaulted
32:56Orlando Anderson
32:57just after the Mike Tyson fight.
33:01So Keefee Dee
33:02was potentially looking
33:03at a life sentence
33:04for federal drug trafficking.
33:07We wanted to question him
33:08about his potential role
33:10in the murder
33:10of Tupac Shakur.
33:12We let him know
33:13that he could potentially
33:14mitigate some of the damages
33:16if he wanted to come in
33:17and talk to us.
33:18And the U.S. attorney
33:20agreed that they'd
33:22allow Keefee Dee
33:23to do a proper session.
33:25Keefee, today what we're
33:26going to do,
33:26we're just going to go
33:27over with a fine-tooth comb
33:29to do a Las Vegas incident.
33:30So we do have to
33:31emphasize to you
33:33it's determined
33:34that some of these details
33:35are incorrect
33:36and everything's off the table.
33:38A proper session
33:39is when a person
33:40facing criminal charges
33:42can answer questions
33:43wherein self-incriminating
33:45information would not
33:47be used against him
33:48in a criminal prosecution.
33:50Doesn't mean they have
33:51any kind of immunity.
33:52In the year prior
34:04to the murder
34:05of Tupac Shakur
34:06he has had
34:08several conversations
34:09with Sean Combs.
34:10Sean Combs' affiliation
34:22with the Southside Crips
34:23came by way
34:24of a New York
34:26street figure
34:26known as Zip.
34:29Zip set up
34:30the introduction
34:31between Combs
34:32and Keefee Dee
34:33and then they developed
34:35their own relationship.
34:36And Zip in the news
34:38he said this is my boy
34:39what are you going to do
34:40this is my friend
34:41this is my nephew
34:41my boy
34:42my boy
34:42this is Pup
34:43and after that
34:45they used my car
34:46on the video
34:47which car was I had?
34:49on the 64 Chevy I had
34:50what color was it?
34:56wow
34:56I was usher video
34:58when Pup was driving the car
34:59usher first
35:00or whatever
35:01he was in a Laker uniform
35:02and he had the little kid
35:03dancing on my car
35:04when it got back
35:05it was fucked up
35:07and he had to
35:07he paid
35:08to get it repainted
35:09I don't have no money
35:12I don't have no money
35:12I don't have no money
35:14Pup
35:15he called Zip home
35:16and he wanted to speak to me
35:18they gave it up
35:18he didn't teach it to her
35:19and then I
35:20he gave us some tickets
35:22and I brought the crew
35:23I want to hear
35:25a new flavor
35:25in your hair
35:26I want to hear
35:27a new flavor
35:28yeah
35:29to all the ladies
35:31in the place
35:32Keefee Dee
35:33says that Sean Combs
35:34kind of makes
35:35this general announcement
35:37while they were all
35:39inside of a hotel room
35:40after a musical event
35:42so it's
35:44Harrell
35:45Puffy
35:46Zip
35:46you
35:47about 40-something
35:48soft-siders
35:49yeah
35:49that was stupid
35:51as hell too
35:52you know
35:52shit
35:54he said
35:54he would kill us
35:55anything
35:55for no dudes
35:56you know
35:57Tupac and Shug
35:58you mean
35:58yeah
35:59he said it
36:00in front of all
36:01those people
36:01I couldn't believe
36:02you know what I'm saying
36:03all home for the cribs
36:06so this is after Jake
36:08got killed
36:08so he was
36:09he was on point
36:10he was worried
36:10about something
36:11happening
36:11yeah
36:11so he got mouth
36:12off about a bunch
36:13of different stuff
36:14so he was scared
36:14he was scared
36:15yeah
36:16okay
36:16okay
36:17then there's
36:18a more specific
36:19incident that takes
36:20place at a deli
36:21on Sunset Strip
36:22in Los Angeles
36:23a place called
36:24Greenblatt's Deli
36:25what made it
36:26a specific
36:27like hey
36:27I'm serious
36:28I want you guys
36:28to kill this
36:29these guys
36:30when he told me
36:32the Greenblatt
36:33when we got there
36:35we were laughing
36:35at him
36:36cause he was just
36:37brought a suck dick
36:38to suck every dick
36:40in there
36:40he got hugged up
36:41kissing or whatever
36:42we was laughing
36:42like I was
36:43like man
36:43what you laughing at
36:44dog
36:45man
36:46don't just come out
36:47here and get in
36:47any bra
36:47dog
36:48I took him
36:50downstairs
36:50and he's like
36:51man
36:51I gotta get rid
36:52of those dudes
36:53man
36:53it's gonna be
36:54problem
36:55it was after
36:59he made the
36:59wreck
36:59hit him up
37:00came out
37:01yeah yeah
37:01that pissed
37:02him off
37:03yeah we
37:06we wanted a million
37:07he tells you
37:10seriously man
37:11I need to get rid
37:12of these guys
37:12and he's looking
37:13at you in the eyes
37:14and he's like
37:15scared
37:15yeah
37:16you tell him
37:17we'll do it
37:17for a million
37:18and he's like
37:19okay
37:19I'll do it
37:21for a million
37:21he agrees
37:22he shaved on
37:23or something
37:23like that
37:24he says that
37:40when Las Vegas
37:41happens
37:41and they're all
37:42out there
37:43and his nephew
37:43gets assaulted
37:44by Tupac
37:45they're like
37:45this is the
37:46perfect occasion
37:47we got this
38:05it's your perfect
38:06opportunity baby
38:07remember Zip
38:08coming
38:08because of what
38:10happened
38:10yeah
38:10we and I
38:13was down there
38:14and he told me
38:15in the lobby
38:16that he had
38:16some jimmies
38:18some what
38:18he had a jimmy
38:19he had a
38:20big hands
38:21he had a little
38:22secret compartment
38:23the thing popped
38:25out
38:25the vehicle
38:27that Zip
38:28was driving
38:28that night
38:29reportedly had
38:30what we call
38:30a trap
38:31in it
38:31which is a
38:32concealed
38:33compartment
38:34where you can
38:35place a gun
38:36it's a difficult
38:38thing to find
38:39Zip
38:41had driven
38:41that car
38:42to Las Vegas
38:43a few days
38:45before Tupac
38:46was murdered
38:47Sean requested
38:48that we rent
38:50cars
38:51and have
38:53multiple drivers
38:54drive clear
38:56across the country
38:57to this fight
38:59but I arranged
39:01through my budget
39:03to make that trip
39:04happen
39:05for those drivers
39:06and to this day
39:08it stands out
39:08in my mind
39:09why did we
39:11rent multiple cars
39:12why did we
39:13hire people
39:14from Harlem
39:15and other
39:15locations
39:16to drive
39:19you tell us
39:22hey we're gonna
39:22go handle this
39:23shit or whatever
39:24yeah they asked
39:25if y'all want us
39:26to talk
39:26we know where
39:28them motherfuckers
39:28at
39:29they were telling
39:29us they're gonna
39:30be at 662
39:31two cars
39:32go to 662
39:33yeah
39:33the van
39:34and the cabin
39:35they didn't show
39:36up
39:37we waited
39:38about 15
39:3920 minutes
39:39they didn't show
39:40up
39:40so
39:41it's like
39:42let's go get
39:42some liquor
39:43and we came
39:45up
39:45Harlem
39:46at the Las Vegas
39:47Willow Art
39:48and oh shit
39:50here they coming
39:51at BMW
39:52can't get cars
39:53on their way
39:54to the club
39:55Suge is blaring
39:56his music too loud
39:57he gets pulled
39:59over by some
40:00police officers
40:01they essentially
40:02you know
40:03say just turn
40:03down your music
40:04no big deal
40:05and it's at this
40:06point in time
40:07that Suge
40:08and Tupac
40:09see these
40:10these girls
40:11like they're
40:11shit
40:12shit
40:12like the police
40:13were going
40:13through his car
40:14or something
40:15or another
40:15and then
40:16the traffic
40:17was stopped
40:18and then they
40:18got in the car
40:19could you see
40:20who was with you
40:21um
40:22I thought it was
40:22Tupac
40:23and then he
40:24was like
40:24come on
40:24come go
40:25with me
40:25come go
40:26with us
40:26we're going
40:27to 662
40:28I'm browsing
40:29Tupac
40:30Tupac
40:31and we're like
40:32there you go
40:33just wanted
40:34to turn
40:34and we just
40:35pulled up
40:36on the side
40:36checked every car
40:37to see where
40:37they was
40:38so what directed
40:39your attention
40:40to him
40:40was some girl
40:40shouting at Tupac
40:42Tupac
40:43he gave us
40:43up away
40:44otherwise
40:44they would have
40:45got away
40:45and he leaned
40:48over
40:49on the window
40:50we rolled
40:50down the window
40:50and popped
40:51he should look
40:53over he sees you
40:54uh
40:55yeah
40:56he was
40:56okay
40:57if you knew
41:10who killed
41:10Tupac
41:10would you tell
41:11the police
41:11absolutely
41:13not
41:15I'm going to
41:17park the car
41:17put the gun
41:19on the tire
41:19and look
41:19where'd you guys
41:21go
41:21we smoke weed
41:22and rain
41:23yeah
41:23where
41:24they pulled up
41:28in the ambulance
41:28while we standing
41:29right there
41:30take our bullshit
41:32you guys on the street
41:33we on Las Vegas
41:35Boulevard
41:35at the crosswalk
41:36and they pull up
41:37the ambulance
41:38right next to us
41:39with him
41:40on the car already
41:40with Tupac
41:42and Chug
41:42in the car
41:43this is close
41:44did they see you
41:45we didn't give a fuck
41:48they don't even say
41:49they don't talk about
41:49the ambulance
41:50that parked right here
41:51right next to us
41:52that shit was
41:53funny as a boat
41:54and I never told
41:58nobody this
41:58so you get back
42:02to LA
42:02the next day
42:03Zip calls
42:03you says
42:04meet me at
42:05the hot one
42:05place
42:05where at
42:06you guys go
42:09over there
42:09Zip shows up
42:10you guys
42:11what happens
42:11on Zip's phone
42:16or your phone
42:16on Zip's phone
42:17and Zip gives you
42:19the phone
42:19yeah
42:20he was happy
42:23and did you ask
42:25him about his money
42:26when you're going
42:26to get paid
42:27or whatever
42:27no I don't know
42:28I don't know
42:28I don't know
42:28I don't know
42:28I don't know
42:29I don't know
42:29I don't know
42:29I don't know
42:29I don't know
42:30Zip
42:30go get our cash
42:32okay so you tell
42:33Zip we need to get
42:34paid
42:34what does Zip say
42:36I'm going to go
42:36back home
42:37and have
42:37yeah
42:37I'll get back
42:38with y'all
42:38according to Kifi D
42:43he was never
42:43compensated
42:44for the murder
42:45but he said
42:48that a partial
42:50amount of the money
42:50was intended
42:51to be forwarded
42:52to him
42:53through Zip
42:54to the tune
42:55of about
42:55$500,000
42:56the million dollar
42:59solicitation amount
43:00only half of it
43:02was fulfilled
43:03because only Tupac
43:04and not Shug
43:06was killed
43:06Kifi D
43:08has a conversation
43:10with Darius Rogers
43:11with D-Mac
43:12and D-Mac
43:18says there had
43:19been a payment
43:20from Combs
43:21to Kifi D
43:23but it had
43:24gone through Zip
43:25and then that money
43:26was never forwarded
43:28we're just hoping
43:32and waiting
43:33to see what kind
43:34of progress
43:34Las Vegas would make
43:36with Kifi D's cooperation
43:38nothing really happens
43:42ultimately
43:44Zip dies from cancer
43:47thank you for coming
43:48out to Zips
43:49and I want everybody
43:50to know that
43:51when you come here
43:52we want to keep
43:53the peace
43:53and Orlando Anderson
43:55is shot and killed
43:56in 1998
43:57so
43:59it's really Kifi D
44:00and Puffy Combs
44:02are the last men standing
44:03they can be held accountable
44:05for Tupac Shakur's murder
44:06waiting patiently
44:19looking to see
44:20if that's you
44:20put the sign up
44:25I'm going to walk with you
44:26all right
44:28I'm at the sign
44:29take that off
44:48let's move my groove
44:51move the groove
44:54what goes up
45:00must come down
45:02what goes down
45:03must come up
45:05fuck
45:05I remember 99
45:10we were working
45:11in the studio
45:12on a song called
45:13Muscle Gang
45:15this is our gang
45:16we ain't playing
45:19with you
45:20come on man
45:22the song comes on
45:23and Puff was talking
45:24in the beginning
45:25it's 1999
45:26no more Mr. Nice guys
45:30I'm like
45:31what is he talking about
45:33talk with me
45:35I dropped a million dollars
45:36on your head
45:36race you and your own family
45:38it's going to start
45:39making your niggas disappear
45:40everything that's done
45:42in the dark
45:43must come to light
45:44everything that goes up
45:46must come down
45:47yeah
45:54yeah I'm headed to hunt 13th and Lennox King I gotta catch my man okay I'll see you up
46:02yeah
46:03yeah I'm headed to hunt 13th and Lennox King I gotta catch my man okay I'll see you up here
46:15yeah we rollin
46:16with the backdrop of east coast west coast beef
46:30Sean took Biggie to Los Angeles
46:33to record what would be the finishing touches on Biggie's life after death album
46:39which wasn't titled that yet
46:41yo
46:46yo big wake up wake up baby
46:48diddy what the fuck man
46:49what's up
46:50come on now
46:51it's a quarter to six
46:51we got the 730 flight
46:53we're going to LAX
46:54whoa
46:54Cali
46:56no doubt baby
46:57we had been warned
46:59to not come to LA
47:01there were warnings all along
47:03for the last few months
47:04that we are not to set foot
47:06on the west coast
47:07it was awards show season
47:11and Sean wanted him to start promoting the album
47:14come on song train
47:17get about your seats
47:18come on
47:18get about your seats
47:20Biggie did not want to go
47:23but Sean talked him into doing all of those things
47:27down low
47:28get about your seats
47:29come on
47:30they were like catcalling and booing
47:35what's up Cali
47:43we were not welcome
47:45after the awards show
47:48Saturday morning
47:49Biggie and I were to go to London
47:52and we were going to have a two
47:53three day press junket
47:55to have Biggie be one of the first artists
47:58from Bad Boy
47:59to meet the European press
48:00I had worked on that for months and weeks leading up
48:04we were supposed to go to the airport
48:07that morning
48:08I'm calling Biggie like crazy
48:10what's going on
48:11wake up
48:12he's like yo
48:13Puff is bugging
48:14he just called me and told me
48:16I want you to stay here in LA
48:18I don't want to stay
48:19I want to go
48:20but Sean was adamant
48:23cancel the flight
48:26Biggie's not going to the UK
48:28what do you mean he's not going to
48:30clip he hangs up
48:31this was his MO
48:33ego
48:34power
48:36tripping
48:36all of it because
48:39Sean wanted to do a party
48:41on enemy turf
48:43scared to death
48:48that's how real it is
48:52I think somebody's trying to kill me
48:54I'll be waking up paranoid
48:55I'll be really scared
48:57I'll just be peril
48:58that night
49:04Big
49:05and Puffy
49:07was with us
49:09they were having a party
49:15I spoke to Big
49:21and I was like
49:22yo man
49:23you know
49:23what are you doing
49:25catching LA
49:27man
49:28they get down
49:29in these circumstances
49:30man
49:30and you just can't be
49:31walking around here
49:33freely
49:34everybody's mean
49:42I look around
49:47I say
49:48where's B
49:50I want to get out
49:52get out
49:53they're running
49:53they're running
49:54they're running
49:54hold up
49:54hold up
49:55this is the street
49:56zoom in
49:57zoom in
49:58run in
49:58shoot
49:59that's big in here
50:08that is big in here
50:09that is big in here
50:10that is big in here
50:11somebody got shot
50:12somebody got shot
50:12get down
50:13what are you reporting
50:16yeah we need an ambulance
50:18on Fairfax and Wilshire
50:19please
50:20Los Angeles
50:21we have a man shot
50:22we have a shot
50:23okay hold on
50:25I'll get that
50:25right on the corner
50:25Wilshire and Fairfax
50:26let's go
50:29let's go
50:29hold on
50:30listen
50:31sir I can't hear
50:32what you're saying
50:33we're man shot
50:34in our car
50:35right now
50:36right now
50:37we're trying to
50:37roll into the hospital
50:38I know the way
50:39see the sign on
50:41you gotta go back
50:43you gotta turn around
50:44Jimmy
50:44you're going the wrong way
50:45what the fuck is wrong
50:46with y'all man
50:47what's going on
50:48you're big
50:49you hear me
50:49yeah what's up
50:49on the other day
50:50yeah what's up
50:51on the other day
50:52big
50:53big
50:53I was following
50:57big's lead on like
50:58you know
50:58we're going to do
50:59this peace tour
50:59and
51:02you know
51:04it didn't work out
51:05Sean said
51:07it on can't stop
51:08won't stop
51:08biggie wanted to go
51:10big you hear me baby
51:13he's lying
51:15about that
51:16Sean wanted that trip
51:19and was pushing it
51:21for weeks
51:21and weeks
51:22he lied about it
51:24and let me know
51:26that's a weak spot
51:27for him
51:28and he's nervous
51:29about that information
51:30he ushered biggie
51:37to his death
51:39next question
51:48all it was
51:52is a puffy
51:52and suge knight war
51:53you're messing
51:55with lives here
51:56and that's exactly
51:57what happened
51:58two lives were lost
51:59as a result of what
52:00stupidity
52:02when I sat down
52:04with Valetta
52:05we briefly brought up
52:06Sean Combs
52:07it was clear to me
52:09that she had no real
52:10respect or appreciation
52:11for him
52:12Sean clearly didn't do
52:14all that he could have
52:15done to help out
52:16in the investigation
52:17in fact he was a
52:19hindrance in the
52:20investigation
52:20puffy was kind of
52:22stonewalling people
52:23from talking
52:24because he knows
52:25if you make inroads
52:27on biggie's murder
52:28you're going to make
52:29inroads on
52:30Tupac's murder
52:31and that potentially
52:32can lead right back
52:33to him
52:34now we're Biggie's
52:37mom and Faith
52:38and the kids
52:39taking all this
52:40um biggie's moms
52:42and Faith
52:42and the children
52:43are extremely strong
52:44they've been
52:45matter of fact
52:45they've been
52:46strong for me
52:47and helping
52:47to hold me up
52:48Sean assumed
52:51the position
52:51of his best friend
52:53in every article
52:54and publication
52:56and that wasn't
52:58necessarily true
52:59and I'm going to
53:00be there for them
53:01just like he would
53:02be there for them
53:02to make sure
53:03that they're all right
53:03Sean said
53:05we're going to do
53:05the biggest funeral
53:06for Biggie
53:07that New York
53:08has ever seen
53:09and we start
53:11to put that together
53:12he starts to see
53:13the price
53:13and he says
53:15we're going to do
53:15the biggest funeral
53:16but Biggie's going
53:18to have to pay
53:18for this funeral
53:19he was going to make
53:22he was going to make
53:22the funeral
53:22be a recoupable
53:24charge
53:25to Biggie
53:26in death
53:26this is one
53:29of my closest friends
53:30and it's still
53:31one of my closest friends
53:32I just
53:34I feel his loss
53:35I just miss him
53:36so much
53:37Sean doing a big show
53:40looks good on him
53:41but he's not going to
53:43tell the world
53:44that Biggie
53:45was going to pay
53:45for it
53:46in Bestar Brooklyn
53:56the whole hood
53:58was outside
53:59if you could make
54:00it there
54:01you was there
54:01it was a big loss
54:05for the city
54:05I loved Biggie
54:08Biggie inspired me
54:10he gave me hope
54:11he made us feel
54:12like you was
54:12from the town
54:13you could make it
54:14we loved Biggie
54:15so it was like
54:16losing a family member
54:17he just wanted
54:20to be a rap superstar
54:21he didn't want
54:23to hurt nobody
54:24he was probably
54:26one of the only people
54:27I had really trusted
54:28like for a long time
54:29it's not a feeling
54:30that I really felt
54:31a lot
54:32like in my life
54:33I don't really
54:34have a lot of friends
54:35I think people
54:36think I have
54:36a lot of friends
54:37you know
54:37I don't think
54:40I really make
54:41a good friend
54:41before he was
54:44assassinated
54:45Biggie had
54:46an opportunity
54:47to be on the cover
54:49of Rolling Stone
54:50we were delivering
54:52the elements
54:53so that can happen
54:54and Sean called me
54:55and said
54:56pull that cover
54:57I need to be
54:58on the cover
54:58my solo album
55:00is coming in July
55:01no way out
55:02and I need
55:03to amp that up
55:04he took the cover
55:08from Biggie
55:09another thing
55:14at the time
55:15Biggie was negotiating
55:17his contract
55:18every day I wake up
55:19we acquiesced
55:22and gave him
55:23everything he wanted
55:24and then he died
55:25can't believe
55:26you ain't here
55:26Sean wanted me
55:30to change
55:31the agreement
55:32to more favorable
55:33terms for bad boy
55:35and his family
55:36and mother
55:36would not know
55:37and since he had
55:38signed the agreement
55:39he wanted
55:41those changes
55:42to come from
55:43out of the center
55:44of the agreement
55:45and have those pages
55:46replaced with
55:47the other terms
55:48and I said
55:48that's not right
55:49I'm not doing it
55:5090 days later
55:52I'm fired
55:53it's like I feel
55:55empty inside
55:56without you being here
55:58I remember
56:05Michael Jackson
56:06the Motown 25 special
56:08MTV
56:09Madonna
56:10Like a Virgin
56:11and I remember
56:11Puff
56:12with Sting
56:13check it out
56:15they're having a TV
56:22moment
56:22in music
56:23it's very rare
56:24it elevates you
56:25to such another level
56:27of superstar
56:27it made him
56:29rockstar bitch
56:30it's kinda hard
56:32but you're not around
56:33know you in heaven
56:34smiling down
56:35watching us
56:36while we pray for you
56:37he became humongous
56:38but now it's him
56:40now I'm the man
56:42it was like a dream
56:43come true
56:44to see the lines
56:46like in front of the stores
56:47like people going there
56:49to get my record
56:50it's crazy
56:52it all happened pretty
56:53quickly for you
56:53from being an intern
56:54to being
56:55on the cover
56:56of the road
56:57in snow
56:58thanks for Biggie's
56:59mother who's sitting
57:00right there
57:00for having notorious
57:01V.I.G
57:02you've abused
57:05everyone
57:05and used
57:06most everyone
57:07put your legs
57:09in the air
57:09for V.I.G
57:10everybody
57:10put your legs
57:11in the air
57:12for stuff
57:12there are horror
57:13stories like this
57:14all throughout
57:16cleared of gun
57:17possession
57:17and bribery charges
57:18Sean Puffy Combs
57:20walked out a free man
57:21some people speak up
57:22about it
57:22most do not
57:24the first member
57:25is
57:26Aubrey
57:28it's a pattern
57:30with him
57:30violence was a very
57:34normalized part
57:35of living in that world
57:36hey yo
57:37you're a bad boy now
57:38you're right
57:39allegations of sexual
57:40misconduct
57:41Puffy called
57:41these encounters
57:42free calls
57:43witnessed Diddy
57:44abusing Cassie
57:45and that they
57:46encouraged Cassie
57:47to get away from him
57:48everything in life
57:51you're gonna have
57:51people that are bad
57:52and people that are good
57:53you know
57:54you have to choose
57:55your side
58:11to get away
58:24there
58:24EPS
58:24I
58:25need to come
58:26to figure out
58:26what
58:27do
58:28what
58:30you
58:31need to come
58:34to
58:35see
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