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00:00Is cleanliness something to be found anywhere?
00:03Where will then cleanliness come from?
00:05Whenever the behavior of a people or a society or a nation
00:09would be determined by just external material factors alone,
00:15there is no scope of real cleanliness.
00:18It's not just about not having visible dirt or plastic or stuff of that kind.
00:24No.
00:25You can have extremely clean and hygienic slaughterhouse.
00:28It's cleaner than a government hospital in North India.
00:33And if we show you pics of that hospital and that slaughterhouse,
00:37you would immediately say, oh, that one, that one, that one is cleaner.
00:40Just to call something clean because it looks clean to the eyes.
00:45You have to look at the totality of what is happening there.
00:49It might look clean to the eyes,
00:50but something extremely violent is happening there
00:53and which is made worse by the fact that it is not visible.
00:56Cleanliness in 2025 must have only one meaning.
01:03Carbon.
01:04Carbon.
01:09Cleanliness or the lack of it that comes from just external conditions
01:14is in either case unclean.
01:21If the lack of cleanliness, apparent cleanliness is coming from poverty,
01:30then obviously there is lack of cleanliness and you can see that.
01:34It's visible.
01:34It's right there in front of a road.
01:37It's there at the town square.
01:40It's everywhere.
01:41Hospitals.
01:41You go and somebody has been spitting on the walls.
01:44You can see all that, right?
01:45And then there is the developed world where no one is spitting on the walls.
01:55In fact, in places like Singapore, you are being actually effectively penalized
02:01if you are caught doing anything with public property including roads.
02:05So, there is apparent cleanliness there.
02:11You can call it superficial cleanliness.
02:14But then they are dirty in a much deeper sense.
02:17So, then is cleanliness something to be found anywhere?
02:28Is it to be found anywhere?
02:30Well, of course, the Indian subcontinent and the entire underdeveloped, developing world,
02:41nobody would call it clean.
02:44And neither do we need to.
02:45Let's accept the facts when they are visible to the naked eye.
02:49We can see.
02:50Even when you go to watch the pristine hillsides, how we have dirtied them.
02:56That's visible.
02:57So, we are not here to claim that India or the developing world is a clean place.
03:04No, not at all.
03:05But then if that is unclean, the developed world is dirtier, even more unclean.
03:11So, where will then cleanliness come from?
03:19Where will then cleanliness come from?
03:24External factors are not favorable.
03:26So, I created cleanliness of the gross kind.
03:34Matter lying strewn here and there, right?
03:37External factors are not favorable.
03:39I am a poor country.
03:40So, this and that is lying here and public services are in an abysmal state.
03:46So, visible.
03:47When I am developed, then I clean this up so that dirt is not visible.
03:53But I create filth of a much more vicious nature, right?
04:01Right?
04:02Where is cleanliness then?
04:04Or is there no possibility at all?
04:08You see, that's what we began with.
04:10If it's coming from outside, it's not going to be clean.
04:17It's going to be unclean when it appears unclean.
04:20And it's going to be unclean when it appears clean.
04:25Irrespective of how it appears, it is going to be dirty.
04:29It appears unclean.
04:30It is obviously unclean.
04:31It appears clean.
04:33It is even more unclean.
04:35Whenever the behavior of a people or a society or a nation
04:41would be determined by just external material factors alone,
04:46there is no scope of real cleanliness.
04:51Real cleanliness is possible only from the heart of the human being.
04:58When you are clean within,
05:00then you will know how to relate to your environment,
05:03to your surroundings.
05:05The road in front of your house,
05:09to all the public places,
05:11schools, hospitals,
05:13roads, shops,
05:15government institutions,
05:17buildings,
05:19airports, bus stations.
05:23You'll know.
05:25But when you are not clean from here,
05:27and what is cleanliness?
05:29Over here,
05:31we clean over here is to be free
05:33of that
05:34which is not really you,
05:37which is coming from the body of the society.
05:40that inner cleanliness is the goal of all wisdom literature and all spiritual pursuit.
05:53Right?
05:54Not really attainment of something otherworldly.
05:58not really taking care of your next birth or pleasing some metaphysical divine entity sitting on the skies.
06:08No, that's not what wisdom or spirituality are for.
06:10They are to attain an inner cleanliness.
06:15Inner cleanliness.
06:16And when that inner cleanliness is attained,
06:21something very beautiful happens.
06:25So beautiful it is not predictable.
06:27We do not know how the outsides would look then.
06:35But what's certain is that there would be no violence
06:40between the human being
06:43and his environment,
06:46his surroundings.
06:49Right?
06:49That violence
06:50is the fundamental characteristic
06:53of being unclean.
06:56Unclean.
06:58Right?
06:58I am not a factor,
07:02not an agent,
07:03not a force
07:04of cleanliness.
07:06If I
07:07enter this place
07:09and leave it
07:12worse
07:13when I
07:15go back.
07:17That's called being an
07:19agent of
07:20filth.
07:22I came here
07:23and the place
07:25was worse off
07:26when I
07:27left.
07:29Worse off
07:30in all ways
07:31possible.
07:32In my effect,
07:34not just
07:35on the way
07:36this stage
07:37looks,
07:38the podium
07:39looks,
07:41but also
07:42in my effect
07:43on
07:44the living
07:46beings sitting
07:47over here.
07:48Also my
07:49effect
07:50on the living
07:51beings that are present
07:52here,
07:52but we cannot
07:53see with our eyes
07:54because they might
07:55be outside
07:56the scope
07:57of these walls.
08:03Getting it?
08:09That's cleanliness.
08:12To not to be
08:13in a violent
08:14relationship
08:14with your
08:15environment.
08:18To not to be
08:20in a violent
08:21relationship
08:22with your
08:22environment.
08:23It's not just
08:25about not
08:26having
08:26visible dirt
08:29or plastic
08:31or stuff
08:32of that kind.
08:33No.
08:33you can have
08:41a very modern
08:42state of the
08:43art
08:43extremely
08:44clean
08:45and hygienic
08:46slaughterhouse.
08:51Cleaner
08:52than
08:52a government
08:55hospital
08:56in North
08:58India.
08:58And if we
09:02show you
09:02pics
09:03of that
09:03hospital
09:04and that
09:05slaughterhouse,
09:05you would
09:07immediately say,
09:08oh, that one,
09:09that one,
09:09that one is
09:11cleaner.
09:12And we have
09:13not yet told
09:13you that one
09:14is a hospital
09:15and the other
09:16one is a
09:17slaughterhouse.
09:18The hospital
09:19would not
09:21look half
09:21as clean
09:22as the
09:22slaughterhouse.
09:26That's a
09:27stupid
09:27definition
09:28of cleanliness,
09:28no?
09:29Just to call
09:30something clean
09:31because it
09:32looks clean
09:33to the
09:33eyes.
09:35You have
09:39to look
09:39at the
09:39totality
09:40of what
09:41is happening
09:41there.
09:42It might
09:43look clean
09:44to the
09:44eyes.
09:46But
09:46something
09:46extremely
09:47violent
09:48is happening
09:48there and
09:49which is
09:49made worse
09:50by the
09:50fact that
09:51it is
09:51not
09:51visible.
09:54It is
09:55not
09:55visible.
09:56That
09:57huge
09:57SUV
09:58is doing
10:03something
10:03to the
10:03environment
10:04that is
10:06not easily
10:06visible to
10:07the naked
10:07eye.
10:09How clean
10:10is that?
10:12How clean
10:13is that?
10:14And there
10:15might be a
10:16khatara
10:16bus,
10:18right?
10:19In Rajasthan,
10:20MP,
10:20UP,
10:20somewhere.
10:23Decrepit.
10:25Ready to
10:26give up the
10:27ghost at
10:27any point.
10:30But it's
10:32carrying
10:3280
10:34passengers.
10:35The
10:36official
10:36capacity is
10:3654.
10:41The fact
10:41is that
10:42the per
10:42capita
10:43emissions
10:43are
10:44negligible.
10:46Even if
10:47the engine
10:48is 1950s
10:50vintage,
10:52still because
10:52it is carrying
10:5380 people,
10:55the per capita
10:56emissions are
10:56negligible.
10:58right?
11:00And the
11:01huge SUV
11:01might actually
11:02be a very
11:05modern EV,
11:07very, very
11:08modern electric
11:09vehicle and you
11:10might say,
11:10you know,
11:12electric vehicle,
11:13no emissions.
11:14Sir,
11:15the entire
11:16charging
11:16is happening
11:19from
11:20fossil fuel
11:21power.
11:22right?
11:24How do
11:24you call
11:24it clean?
11:26How do
11:27you call
11:27it clean?
11:27Yes.
11:28And the
11:29EV has
11:31technology
11:31of
11:332025.
11:35Most
11:36modern
11:36technology.
11:37And that
11:37bus,
11:40UP roadways,
11:42has
11:431955
11:44technology.
11:45Tell me
11:45which one
11:45is cleaner?
11:47Which one
11:48is cleaner?
11:48this SUV
11:51is carrying
11:51one person.
11:53One
11:53person.
11:55One
11:56fat
11:56pampered
11:57person
11:57who thinks
11:58he is
11:59entitled to
12:00do anything
12:00that he
12:00wants to
12:01do with
12:01the
12:01environment.
12:03Worse
12:03still,
12:05he has
12:05convinced
12:06himself
12:06that he
12:07is doing
12:07something
12:08that's
12:08environment
12:08friendly.
12:10You
12:10know,
12:10this is
12:11an EV
12:12SUV.
12:16Tell
12:17me
12:17immediately
12:20you would
12:20want to
12:20say that
12:21the man
12:22driving
12:22the EV
12:23is doing
12:26something
12:26that's
12:27cleaner.
12:28And what's
12:29happening in
12:29the other
12:29picture where
12:30you have
12:31that old
12:32diesel
12:33guzzling
12:33bus
12:35that's doing
12:38something
12:39that's harming
12:40the environment.
12:41And you
12:42could have
12:42a pick
12:44of the
12:44exhaust as
12:45well.
12:47and dark
12:48fumes
12:48emerging
12:50from the
12:51exhaust of
12:52the bus
12:52would further
12:53convince you
12:54that something
12:55extremely dirty
12:56is happening
12:56here.
12:58But is the
13:00conclusion
13:01so obvious?
13:04Do we need
13:05to be so
13:06hasty in
13:07concluding?
13:09Or is the
13:10fact a little
13:10different?
13:11we must
13:15totally get
13:17rid
13:17of
13:19gross
13:20notions
13:20of
13:21cleanliness.
13:22Cleanliness
13:23in 2025
13:25must have
13:26only one
13:27meaning
13:27carbon.
13:32Carbon.
13:32Oh you
13:36look so
13:36clean.
13:36clean.
13:37You look
13:38so clean.
13:41Four times
13:42a day
13:42you are
13:45taking the
13:47shower.
13:50Hmm?
13:50no that's
13:52a very
13:52dirty thing
13:53to do
13:53sir
13:54or ma'am.
13:55Very
13:56dirty
13:56thing to
13:56do.
14:00Especially
14:01in a place
14:02where the
14:02annual rainfall
14:03is 10
14:03centimetres.
14:0610
14:06centimetres
14:07of annual
14:07rainfall.
14:12A lot
14:12of reliance
14:13on
14:13desalinated
14:14water.
14:15And then
14:16you want
14:16to look
14:17so clean
14:19by consuming
14:22so much
14:22water.
14:22No.
14:23That's the
14:24dirtiest
14:24thing probably
14:25that you
14:25can do.
14:29And I
14:29don't know
14:30how it
14:30happens here
14:30but in
14:31India
14:31people
14:32would take
14:33a pipe
14:33a hose
14:34pipe
14:34and wash
14:35their vehicles
14:36as well.
14:37And then
14:38the vehicle
14:38would start
14:39looking
14:39clean.
14:41No that's
14:41a very
14:41dirty
14:42practice.
14:46A very
14:47dirty
14:48practice.
14:50So from
14:51the
14:53superficial
14:54definition
14:54of
14:55cleanliness
14:55which is
14:56about
14:56cleanliness
14:57visible to
14:57the
14:57naked
14:57eye
14:58we want
14:59to come
14:59to a
15:01less
15:01material
15:02definition
15:02of
15:03cleanliness
15:03which
15:04relates
15:04to
15:04carbon
15:04emissions
15:05but it's
15:06still
15:06a material
15:07definition
15:08after all
15:08because
15:08carbon
15:08dioxide
15:09is a
15:09material
15:09thing.
15:11And
15:11ultimately
15:13we are
15:13saying
15:13that real
15:14cleanliness
15:14about being
15:15clean
15:16here
15:16about being
15:18clean
15:18here
15:18if we
15:19cannot
15:20fully
15:20grasp
15:21or
15:22immediately
15:23come to
15:23a point
15:24of
15:24cleanliness
15:25inside
15:25let's
15:27at least
15:28shun
15:29the
15:29notions
15:30of
15:30outward
15:31cleanliness
15:32not that
15:34I'm
15:34advocating
15:35that
15:36outwardly
15:36we should
15:37be
15:38stinking
15:38and
15:39dirty
15:39and
15:41unseemly
15:41and
15:42shabby
15:42no
15:42I'm
15:44not
15:44advocating
15:44that
15:45I'm
15:45just
15:45saying
15:45that
15:46if
15:46cleanliness
15:46is
15:47something
15:47so
15:47valuable
15:48we
15:49better
15:49know
15:50what
15:51it
15:51really
15:51means
15:52just
15:55because
15:55something
15:56has
15:56a
15:56shiny
15:57skin
15:57be it
15:59a
15:59human
15:59being
15:59or
16:00an
16:00SUV
16:00that
16:01doesn't
16:02make
16:02it
16:02clean
16:02or
16:06does
16:06it
16:06just
16:08because
16:08a
16:08place
16:09has
16:09shiny
16:09roads
16:10that
16:10doesn't
16:10make
16:11it
16:11clean
16:11or
16:14shiny
16:14buildings
16:15that
16:15doesn't
16:16make
16:16it
16:16clean
16:16if
16:22the
16:23entire
16:23world
16:23to be
16:24as
16:25clean
16:25as
16:26the
16:26United
16:26States
16:26of
16:27America
16:27as
16:28clean
16:29as
16:30oxymorone
16:33we
16:35would
16:35need
16:36close
16:37to
16:37eight
16:39planets
16:39like
16:40our
16:40own
16:40to
16:43sustain
16:43that
16:43level
16:44of
16:44cleanliness
16:45we
16:49better
16:50remain
16:50outwardly
16:51a little
16:52unclean
16:53that's
16:53probably
16:54acceptable
16:54that's
16:57alright
16:57no
17:02I was
17:03just
17:03wondering
17:03like
17:04people
17:04who
17:05are
17:05living
17:05like
17:05very
17:06slow
17:06life
17:07even
17:08like
17:08in
17:08Bali
17:08or
17:09villages
17:09in
17:10India
17:10they're
17:11able
17:11to
17:11be
17:12much
17:12more
17:12like
17:13they're
17:13cleaner
17:14naturally
17:14without
17:15trying
17:16they are
17:16living
17:17a slow
17:17life
17:17because
17:18they are
17:18not
17:18yet
17:19getting
17:19the
17:19opportunity
17:20to
17:20live
17:20the
17:21fast
17:22and
17:22dreamy
17:22life
17:23that
17:23probably
17:24you
17:24do
17:24or
17:24most
17:25of
17:25us
17:25do
17:25so
17:27it's
17:27again
17:28circumstantial
17:31environmental
17:32random
17:33coincidental
17:34you're
17:35kidding
17:36it
17:36the
17:37man
17:37in
17:38that
17:38village
17:38who
17:39appears
17:40like
17:40living
17:41a
17:42slow
17:42life
17:42is
17:42not
17:43doing
17:43so
17:43out
17:43of
17:43choice
17:44in
17:46fact
17:46in
17:46his
17:47heart
17:47he
17:48is
17:48continuously
17:48aspiring
17:49can
17:50I
17:50also
17:50somehow
17:51make
17:53it
17:53to
17:53Mumbai
17:53or
17:54Dubai
17:54just
17:56that
17:56he
17:57is
17:57not
17:57yet
17:57getting
17:58the
17:58chance
17:59or
18:00maybe
18:00he
18:00is
18:01not
18:01diligent
18:03enough
18:03or
18:05smart
18:05enough
18:06or
18:06skilled
18:07enough
18:07as
18:10long
18:10as
18:11your
18:11behavior
18:11is
18:12an
18:15output
18:16of
18:17your
18:17environment
18:18there
18:19is
18:20no
18:20way
18:20any
18:21kind
18:21of
18:21behavior
18:22that
18:22you
18:22display
18:23can
18:27be
18:30counted
18:30as
18:32credit
18:32towards
18:33you
18:33a
18:38gun
18:38to
18:38your
18:38temple
18:39and
18:39you
18:39are
18:40made
18:40to
18:40behave
18:41in
18:42a
18:42proper
18:42honorable
18:43decent
18:43respectable
18:44way
18:45should
18:47I
18:48credit
18:48you
18:48for
18:48that
18:49should
18:50I
18:50the
18:52moment
18:52the
18:53gun
18:53is
18:53gone
18:53you
18:55will
18:56revert
18:56to
18:57only
18:58you
18:58know
18:58what
18:59getting
19:01it
19:01it's
19:02not
19:03that
19:03the
19:03man
19:04in
19:04the
19:04village
19:05leading
19:05a
19:05slow
19:06life
19:06is
19:07virtuous
19:08he
19:12is
19:12just
19:12deprived
19:14of
19:14opportunity
19:16opportunity
19:17in
19:19fact
19:19he
19:20might
19:20be
19:20as
19:21full
19:22of
19:22greed
19:23and
19:23ambition
19:24and
19:24aspiration
19:25and
19:25violence
19:25as
19:26anybody
19:26else
19:26and
19:27given
19:28a
19:28chance
19:28he
19:32might
19:32shortchange
19:33you
19:33in the
19:33worst
19:33way
19:34possible
19:34I
19:39recall
19:43this
19:43one
19:43often
19:44so
19:45there
19:46was
19:46the
19:46shopping
19:47mall
19:47I
19:47went
19:48to
19:48more
19:49than
19:5010
19:50years
19:50back
19:50and
19:52a
19:54particular
19:54piece
19:55of
19:55furniture
19:55was
19:55to be
19:56bought
19:56the
19:57bought
19:57sthal
19:58was
19:59being
20:00built
20:00then
20:00so
20:03the
20:04shopkeeper
20:06selling
20:06the
20:07furniture
20:07he
20:09tried
20:10to
20:10act
20:10smart
20:11and
20:11tried
20:11to
20:12dupe
20:12us
20:12and
20:14there
20:14was
20:14some
20:16argument
20:16and
20:17we
20:17ultimately
20:18got him
20:20around
20:21and
20:21got the
20:21right
20:22price
20:22but
20:23it
20:23left
20:24a
20:25bitter
20:25taste
20:25in
20:26the
20:26mouth
20:26somebody
20:27you
20:28have
20:28just
20:28discovered
20:29was
20:31trying
20:31to
20:31fool
20:31you
20:32that
20:32doesn't
20:33leave
20:33you
20:34with
20:35a
20:36happy
20:36mind
20:36you
20:38are
20:38being
20:38tricked
20:38and
20:39then
20:40we
20:40return
20:40to
20:41the
20:41parking
20:42lot
20:42and
20:44there
20:44the
20:44parking
20:46guy
20:46he
20:48is
20:48demanding
20:4920
20:49rupees
20:50extra
20:50by
20:52acting
20:52smart
20:52and
20:53showing
20:53us
20:53the
20:53wrong
20:54kind
20:54of
20:54slip
20:54and
20:57then
20:57there
20:57was
20:57somebody
20:58with
20:58me
20:58and
20:58I
20:58said
20:58how
20:59is
20:59this
21:00behavior
21:00fundamentally
21:01different
21:02from
21:02the
21:02behavior
21:03of
21:03the
21:03shopkeeper
21:03inside
21:04the
21:04mall
21:04here
21:06is
21:06this
21:07gatekeeper
21:07outside
21:08the
21:08mall
21:08and
21:09how
21:09is
21:09his
21:10behavior
21:10fundamentally
21:11different
21:11from
21:11the
21:12behavior
21:13of
21:13the
21:13shopkeeper
21:14inside
21:14the
21:14mall
21:14so
21:16it's
21:16not
21:16really
21:17necessary
21:17that
21:18if
21:18somebody
21:18is
21:19poor
21:19or
21:20slow
21:21then
21:23that
21:24points
21:24at
21:25virtuosity
21:26no way
21:27but we
21:28have been
21:28somewhere
21:30taught to
21:32think like
21:33that
21:33that there
21:36is a
21:36certain
21:37virtue
21:37in
21:38poverty
21:38in
21:40India
21:40we
21:40often
21:41refer
21:42to
21:42the
21:42poor
21:42as
21:42Daridra
21:43Narayan
21:43Daridra
21:45means
21:45poor
21:47and
21:47Narayan
21:47means
21:48God
21:49why
21:50give him
21:52a chance
21:53just give
21:54him a chance
21:54and he'll
21:55show you
21:55what he's
21:55capable
21:56of
21:56he too
21:58is running
21:59the same
21:59race
22:00just that
22:00he's a
22:01laggard
22:01it's
22:02not that
22:03he has
22:03willingly
22:03opted
22:06out of
22:07the
22:07race
22:07he's
22:08in the
22:08same
22:08race
22:09just that
22:10he is
22:11not able
22:12to run
22:12that race
22:13properly
22:13that's why
22:14he's been
22:15left behind
22:15not that
22:17he has
22:18opted out
22:19that's
22:21real cleanliness
22:22to see
22:22that the
22:23race is
22:23dirty
22:24to not
22:26to run
22:27the usual
22:27race
22:28and that
22:29does not
22:29mean that
22:29you opt
22:30out of
22:30the race
22:31and do
22:31nothing
22:32that
22:33means
22:34to
22:34walk
22:35a
22:36different
22:36path
22:36that
22:40means
22:41to
22:41discover
22:41who
22:42you
22:42are
22:42and
22:43hence
22:43discover
22:44the
22:44path
22:45you
22:45must
22:45take
22:45that's
22:47cleanliness
22:47these days
22:56we are
22:56talking of
22:57debris
22:57not only
23:00on the
23:02land
23:05but also
23:08on the
23:10ocean floor
23:12who did
23:14that
23:14third world
23:14countries
23:15who did
23:17that
23:18the third
23:18world
23:18countries
23:19we are
23:20also
23:20talking
23:21of
23:23pollution
23:23in space
23:24thousands
23:27of material
23:29pieces
23:29are
23:30orbiting
23:31our
23:31planet
23:32now
23:32just like
23:34satellites
23:35anything
23:36that's
23:38there
23:38in outer
23:38space
23:39would
23:40orbit
23:40the earth
23:41and they
23:41are
23:41orbiting
23:41and they
23:43can cause
23:44any kind
23:44of
23:45accidents
23:46and those
23:47accidents
23:48can
23:49prove
23:50fatal
23:51given that
23:52we are
23:53having more
23:54and more
23:55manned
23:56space
23:56missions
23:56now
23:57so
24:01there's
24:01a
24:01country
24:02that
24:04dirties
24:04the land
24:05and then
24:07there are
24:07countries
24:08that are
24:08keeping
24:09the land
24:10and the
24:10surroundings
24:11nice to
24:13look at
24:13nice to
24:14look at
24:15but are
24:15dirtying
24:16the atmosphere
24:18the ocean
24:20floor
24:21and also
24:22outer space
24:22we need
24:24to look
24:25at the
24:25whole thing
24:26in a more
24:27holistic way
24:28what do
24:28we mean
24:29cleanliness
24:30cleanliness
24:36is not
24:36something
24:37that
24:38comes
24:39by being
24:39poor
24:40cleanliness
24:41is also
24:42not something
24:43that comes
24:43by being
24:44rich
24:44cleanliness
24:46is an
24:46entirely
24:47different
24:47dimension
24:48hmm
24:50hmm
24:50hmm
24:50hmm
24:51hmm
24:52hmm
24:53hmm
24:54hmm
24:55hmm
24:57hmm
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