ادی راما: هنگامی که بحث مبارزه با فساد به میان می‌آید، «سخنرانی برای ما غیرقابل قبول است»

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ادی راما: هنگامی که بحث مبارزه با فساد به میان می‌آید، «سخنرانی برای ما غیرقابل قبول است»  ادی راما به یورونیوز گفت که آلبانی متعهد به پیوستن به اتحادیه اروپا تا سال 2030 در قالب یک جدول زمانی «بلندپروازانه اما قابل اجرا» است. بررسی سالانه کمیسیون اروپا در مورد اینکه کشورهای نامزد اتحادیه اروپا چقدر در مسیر عضویت خود پیشرفت داشته‌اند عمدتاً برای تیرانا مثبت بود.  لب بیشتر : http://parsi.euronews.com/2025/11/07/edi-rama-when-it-comes-to-fighting-corruption-lectures-are-unacceptable-for-us  مشترک شوید: یورونیوز به یازده زبان دیگر در دسترس شماست

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00:00Thank you for joining us here online for this new Euronews format.

00:13This is 12 minutes with Edi Rama, Prime Minister of Albania.

00:18Thank you for being here.

00:19As you heard today from the report and from Marta Kos,

00:23indeed Albania is one of the frontrunners,

00:25and the accession negotiations reached unprecedented momentum this year

00:30with preparations for the opening of the last cluster before the end of the year,

00:35and now, quote, well advanced.

00:37Now, this report seems very positive for you.

00:41What's your take on it?

00:42Yeah, the report is very positive, and the whole year has been extremely positive.

00:49We have opened five of six clusters within only 11 months,

00:56which is an absolute record in terms of speed.

01:01It's something that until only a few years ago I would not have been able to imagine,

01:09but this is why life is so beautiful.

01:12So what's the secret?

01:14Why don't you share this secret with other candidate countries?

01:16The speed is related with two main factors.

01:22On one hand, during the, what I call, years of humiliation,

01:28which were the years when the EU Commission was recommending to the Council

01:37to open accession talks with Albania,

01:39and we were rejected by a few countries,

01:43we stubbornly prepared for the moment of the opening,

01:49and we trained in the hardest way with all our team

01:55by simply saying to ourselves,

01:59our moment to show our true colors will come,

02:04and for that moment we have to be ready.

02:08And as a matter of fact, when the moment came,

02:12we were much more advanced than maybe others in that precise moment of the opening.

02:20Well, given that this has been indeed a very long process for Albania,

02:23it has been 16 years altogether,

02:26you've previously spoken about the shifting goalposts by Brussels.

02:32Do you feel like this has changed and there is this new push

02:37and this situation is over for Albania,

02:40but also for the other candidates from the region,

02:43because they have been also waiting for a very long time?

02:47And here comes the factor number two,

02:50which is exactly Brussels,

02:52that changed its approach and woke up.

02:59Unfortunately, it was needed an aggression in the European soil,

03:06military aggression,

03:08to make Brussels wake up,

03:11not simply in the level of the Commission,

03:15where we have always found fairness,

03:19very painful, very neurotic, but fair,

03:23but also in the level of the Council,

03:26where the blah, blah, blah of before,

03:29that yes, one day we'll be together,

03:33yes, we love you,

03:34yes, we're going to marry,

03:36but we are not ready to talk for the moment,

03:39was over,

03:41and a new momentum is still here,

03:49and the new approach is still the case.

03:52I hope that this will not fade away,

03:56and I very much hope that we will finally get together around the same table.

04:04Yeah, I was about to ask you about whether,

04:07you know, whether this momentum and this situation

04:09of more of serious commitment,

04:11as you described there,

04:12whether it is going to last.

04:14Albania is now considered one of the frontrunners.

04:17Your goal is to enter the EU by 2030.

04:21Now, how do you also see this situation

04:26with the shifting goalposts by Brussels

04:29changing, or possibly not changing,

04:32for the other countries in your region?

04:34Well, for this you have to ask Brussels,

04:36but as far as I am concerned,

04:40I might tell you that the 2030 is not a date

04:45that I saw in a dream,

04:48but it's a deadline that is the result

04:53of a very simple calculation.

04:56We start from the fact that together with the Commission,

04:59in full consensus with the Commission,

05:04we have agreed on a calendar that is very ambitious,

05:07but it's doable,

05:09of homework for us to conclude the accession talks,

05:14the negotiations, at the end of 2027.

05:19There is a possibility to do it even faster,

05:22let's say in the first half of 2027,

05:24and there would be reasons for that,

05:25but let's say end of 2027.

05:27And then the average time we have looked into

05:32when it comes to the 27 parliaments

05:36to ratify the decision is around two years,

05:43and this is how we envisage Albania

05:46to sit around the table of the EU on 2030.

05:51But of course we are not at all against

05:53to be there faster.

05:56Everyone has its own path

05:58and everyone has to fulfill

06:01its own obligations

06:03and to do its own homework.

06:05So there are different characteristics

06:09in the region,

06:10there are different countries,

06:12different histories,

06:13and so on and so further.

06:14When it comes to us,

06:16I can say with a very loud voice

06:19that we are the most Euro-optimistic nation

06:24in Europe,

06:26or as Donald Trump would say,

06:28on earth.

06:29Prime Minister,

06:30there is a specific focus as well by Brussels,

06:33this is slightly on the downside probably of the report,

06:36with the focus from Brussels coming

06:38regarding the issue of corruption.

06:40Now what I want to ask you

06:41is that Albania is the first country in the world

06:43to appoint an AI as government minister,

06:47specifically tasked with fighting corruption.

06:50Now would you give us an update,

06:52how is Diela doing?

06:54How is her and your fight going on?

06:59Albania is doing something unseen and unique

07:03in the whole region.

07:05Our justice reform

07:07and our recognition

07:10of the not only de jure,

07:13but the de facto independence of justice

07:16and the full-fledged operation

07:21of a special structure

07:23against organized crime and corruption

07:25has practically created in Albania

07:32and for Albania

07:33the example

07:34that the fight against corruption

07:38is something

07:39that goes

07:40very, very much beyond words,

07:44very much beyond make-ups,

07:47and it goes very deep,

07:49and it goes

07:51very,

07:52very,

07:54let's say,

07:56balanced

07:57without looking left,

08:00without looking right,

08:01independently from

08:02who is in government,

08:03who is in opposition,

08:05who was in power,

08:07who is in power,

08:08and with a lot

08:09of facts

08:12that show

08:13that

08:13what never happened

08:15in Albania

08:16from the day of independence

08:18and creation

08:19of the Albanian state

08:20in 1912

08:21to

08:22until

08:24very few years ago,

08:25it's happening

08:26the last year,

08:27something

08:28that no other country

08:29in the region

08:30can claim

08:31to have done,

08:32and this is not

08:33to

08:34say

08:36that we are

08:37better

08:37than the others,

08:38but this is to say

08:39that we have taken it

08:40very seriously,

08:41and

08:42in this moment

08:43in time

08:44we

08:45accept

08:46support,

08:49we accept

08:49partnership,

08:50we accept

08:51help,

08:52but we don't accept

08:53lectures

08:53from anyone

08:54when it comes

08:55on fight

08:56against corruption,

08:57and of course

08:57when it comes

08:59to Diela,

09:00she is the

09:01product

09:02of a systemic

09:03fight,

09:04which is not

09:05just about

09:06fighting cases

09:08and

09:08fighting

09:10in the

09:12court of law,

09:13but which is

09:14about fighting

09:15through modernization,

09:16and we

09:17aim to have

09:18within

09:192027

09:20the first

09:22full

09:22AI

09:23public

09:23procurement

09:24that will

09:25allow

09:26speed,

09:27transparency,

09:29accuracy

09:29in levels

09:30that are

09:31unseen.

09:32Prime Minister,

09:32finally let me

09:33ask you

09:34to wrap

09:34this up,

09:36what is

09:36the next

09:37creative

09:37idea

09:38and the

09:39next

09:39creative

09:39solution

09:40coming from

09:40you and

09:41from Albania

09:41on your

09:42way to

09:43the European

09:43Union

09:44membership?

09:45I'm sure

09:46you have

09:46heard that

09:46Diela is

09:47pregnant,

09:48and

09:48she has

09:4983

09:50babies

09:51based on

09:53the last

09:54ecography,

09:55so we

09:56have to

09:57wait for

09:58her to

09:58give birth

09:59to these

09:5983 babies,

10:01and in

10:01the meantime

10:02I have to

10:03tell you

10:03one thing

10:03that has

10:04not been

10:04much

10:05discussed,

10:07that we

10:07are the

10:08only country

10:08in this

10:10process

10:10to use

10:11artificial

10:12intelligence

10:13in the

10:14transfer of

10:15the

10:15Aquic

10:16Communautaire

10:16to our

10:17body of

10:17law,

10:18and to

10:19make of

10:20it the

10:21fastest

10:22process

10:23ever made

10:25in terms

10:26of not

10:27only

10:27translating,

10:28but also

10:30analyzing the

10:32impact,

10:33and drafting,

10:35and preparing

10:37the whole

10:39legal packages

10:41for the

10:42approval in

10:44Parliament.

10:44So we

10:46are trying

10:48to run

10:49as much

10:50as possible

10:52and to

10:53make as

10:54much as

10:54possible

10:54leapfrogs

10:55using

10:56technology,

10:57artificial

10:58intelligence,

10:58but without

11:00never ever

11:01forgetting that

11:02our place

11:03in Europe

11:04is first

11:05and foremost

11:05deserved

11:06because Europe

11:07has the

11:08best place

11:09in the

11:09heart of

11:10the whole

11:11Albanian

11:11nation,

11:12something that

11:12the others

11:13cannot

11:13pretend.

11:14Prime Minister,

11:14I have to

11:15follow up.

11:15Do you think

11:15Brussels could

11:16use an

11:17AI commissioner?

11:18It's not

11:18for me to

11:20tell Brussels

11:21what to

11:21do,

11:22but of

11:24course I

11:25would be

11:25very happy

11:26to introduce

11:27Diela with

11:28whomever on

11:29the EU

11:30side will

11:31introduce him

11:32or herself

11:33like an

11:34AI commissioner

11:35or an

11:36AI

11:37technocrat

11:39or

11:39bureaucrat

11:40or whatever

11:41else,

11:42it doesn't

11:42matter.

11:43Prime Minister,

11:44thank you

11:44very much

11:44for this

11:45interview

11:45and for

11:45your time

11:46and thank

11:46you very

11:47much

11:47for

11:47joining us

11:47here.

11:48There was

11:4812

11:48minutes

11:49with

11:49Eddie

11:49Rama,

11:50Prime

11:50Minister

11:50of

11:50Albania.

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