Love Your Weekend with Alan Titchmarsh S07E31

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00:00:00You're doing well. Off we go then. Good morning. And welcome. And welcome back to this chap here, Titch, our guide dong in training. I think you're doing so well. You deserve one of those. There you go. Here we go. And sit again. Sit. Well done. Not so Titchy now though, is he?

00:00:20I hear training is going well. They tell me you're doing really quite well. In a world where everything is new and exciting, his report card is a glowing one. Deserves another tidbit. This is described as biddable, fun and good company. I'd go along with that. There we are. Shall we sit again then? Sit. Sit. Goodbye. Isn't it wonderful? He's the ideal guest this Sunday morning. You all set? It's time for Love Your Weekend. Walk on. Off we go.

00:00:50For much of Britain.

00:01:20November represents the height of autumn. The stag rots in full flow. Forests sing with seasonal colour and toasty fires burn in country pubs. It's also a month of mystery. We're never quite sure what weather could be coming our way, but it's this mystery that adds to the British countryside experience.

00:01:40And we're here in the heart of Hampshire, ready to face whatever weather's thrown our way this morning here at Manor Farm. Braving the elements today, he's the leading man who's leading the way in popular drama.

00:01:52Swapping Downton Abbey for our own country pile, Robert Bathurst makes his Manor Farm debut. Let's hope he doesn't get cold feet.

00:02:00And she's the bake-off queen, famed for her bright and eye-catching attire. Dame Prue-Leath on her continuing zest for life and serving up yet more tasty treats in her Cotswold kitchen.

00:02:12And, on guard, we're marking the 250th anniversary of Jane Austen's birth in true Love Your Weekend style. The Regency-era gentleman's sport of fencing. You don't get this on the other side.

00:02:25And if you're looking to be kinder to the wildlife in your garden, look no further than this dynamic duo.

00:02:32Garden designer Chris Hull and carpenter Rob Bent join forces to create a haven for nature as winter sets in.

00:02:40And they're the adorable border collies who stall all our hearts.

00:02:44We catch up with Shepherdess Susie Parrish as Mole, Flick and Sid continue their training to become fully-fledged sheepdogs.

00:02:55As Marilyn Monroe famously said, we are all of the stars and we deserve to twinkle.

00:03:03Well, twinkling this Sunday morning here in the barn, please welcome Prue-Leath and Robert Bathurst.

00:03:08Lovely to be with both of you. And it's always nice to find something guests have in common.

00:03:13And with you two, it's African roots.

00:03:16Were you born in Africa?

00:03:17I was born in what was the Gold Coast. And then ten days after I was born, it became Ghana.

00:03:22Yeah. And because my father, actually he was born in South Africa.

00:03:25So as a result, I would have been Ghanaian if I was born ten days later.

00:03:28It's intriguing when people say, oh, you're from X and, you know, oh, you're from Yorkshire.

00:03:34And I say, well, no, actually I'm of Yorkshire.

00:03:36And it seems as though, not from anything other than, it's so much a part of me.

00:03:42It's more than a from. It's a part of you. It's an of, regardless of where it is.

00:03:46If your upbringing was something that, if you're very sensitive, I think, to feelings and sense of place, I think it stays with you, don't you?

00:03:57So I would say I was more of Ireland.

00:03:59I mean, we left Africa when I was two and I spent until I was ten in Ireland.

00:04:03So I feel more of Irish.

00:04:06How long were you there for?

00:04:08I was there until I was ten. I spent six years there.

00:04:10I mean, quite formative years, really.

00:04:11Oh, they are. Those early years always. Right up to 20, I think.

00:04:14That is so rich. Everything's going in, isn't it?

00:04:18But the lovely thing about having you two is two country people,

00:04:21because you both live in the countryside. Prue, you're in Cotswold.

00:04:24Absolutely. And I would not like to live anywhere else now.

00:04:28I love it. I absolutely love it.

00:04:31I've lived in the Cotswolds 50 years now.

00:04:33And people keep saying to me, you must hate it now.

00:04:36It's just full of all these poshows.

00:04:38Well, actually, no.

00:04:39The truth is that all the little small farms in the Cotswolds wouldn't survive

00:04:45if they didn't have rich people to buy their honey or their organic whatever it is.

00:04:52And most of the Cotswolds are still, you know, small farmers, small businesses,

00:04:59nice villages where they say hello to you.

00:05:02And, you know, it's just a lovely place.

00:05:05And it's very villagey.

00:05:06And a lot of the people, the names that go,

00:05:09they're only there at weekends anyway, aren't they?

00:05:10Yeah, exactly.

00:05:11And they're no problem in this and they spend their money there.

00:05:17Robert, you're Sussex.

00:05:18I live in, yeah, it was 25 years or so in East Sussex.

00:05:21I have a great attachment to the Cotswolds.

00:05:23I used to spend a lot of time with my aunt and uncle who farmed

00:05:26in one of those sort of slightly rougher, I mean, it was a proper smelly farm.

00:05:30And so I had spent many, many happy times in the Cotswolds.

00:05:36But happily living in Sussex.

00:05:37In Sussex, yeah, absolutely.

00:05:39No, it's very clay.

00:05:39It's East Sussex, which is clay.

00:05:41And West Sussex is very snotty for people in East Sussex

00:05:44because it's not feudal.

00:05:46And I like it because it's not feudal.

00:05:48And I like it because it's more small holdings.

00:05:50And it's very wooded and the ground is not good ground.

00:05:54So the great estates don't like to farm,

00:06:00haven't traditionally liked to farm.

00:06:01You sound to me like a gardener.

00:06:02I mean, are you a gardener?

00:06:03I come to it.

00:06:06I come to vegetable gardening, absolutely.

00:06:08I've had a, I mean, quite recently.

00:06:11But I, yes, my wife, Victoria, she's a very good gardener

00:06:16and she knows her stuff.

00:06:18And she's, but I've been, I've been quite a, quite a...

00:06:24You're getting there.

00:06:25I'm getting there, yes.

00:06:26But Robert, if you're growing vegetables,

00:06:28Yes.

00:06:29What do you do with all the produce that hits you in the summer?

00:06:33There's all these bloody tomatoes

00:06:34and all these piles of spinach.

00:06:37Yes.

00:06:38I mean, honestly, I spend years growing and processing.

00:06:43Yes.

00:06:43And what you do is you find yourself at midnight,

00:06:45you're freezing spinach and it fills the freezer

00:06:50and then you've got far too much of it

00:06:53and you end up making room in the freezer next year

00:06:56for more spinach and putting that lot on the compost heap.

00:06:59And, you know, honestly, I'm for, you know,

00:07:03the supermarket has perfectly good packets

00:07:06of the amount of veg that I want

00:07:09rather than a mountain on Monday and nothing on Tuesday.

00:07:11If only we could edit that out.

00:07:13Proofy's famous cook, why bother growing it?

00:07:18It's in the supermarket.

00:07:19It is important, it is important not to go away in August.

00:07:22Oh, it is, yes.

00:07:24Well, exactly.

00:07:25I know.

00:07:26It's a tyranny.

00:07:28That kind of gardening is a tyranny,

00:07:30whether it's pleasure gardening.

00:07:31I've just been to Ireland, which is a joke,

00:07:34because I went as a judge for Irish TV,

00:07:39best TV gardens in America.

00:07:42Fortunately, there was Carol Klein and a few Dermott,

00:07:45you know, some people who know about gardening

00:07:47who were the real judges.

00:07:50But I was so enchanted because it rained so much there

00:07:54that they can grow herbaceous borders,

00:07:57which are just magnificent.

00:07:59And I thought, what am I doing trying to be all correct

00:08:02and not have too much water in my garden

00:08:05so I won't have an herbaceous border?

00:08:07I just have grass, you know, grass gardens and dry gardens.

00:08:11I came back and I thought, the hell with all that,

00:08:13I'm going to have a herbaceous border.

00:08:14I've got to have flowers.

00:08:16I've got to grow flowers.

00:08:18Well, you've clearly both got roots.

00:08:19I mean, you know in the Cotswolds, you in Sussex.

00:08:21But you both, over the years,

00:08:24you've been able to almost choose where you live

00:08:25by sampling everything because touring, a big part of both your lives,

00:08:30particularly in the early days of the Cambridge Footlights,

00:08:32I suspect, there with you, Robert, touring all over the place.

00:08:35Well, I've toured a lot also in theatre going around

00:08:38and I've travelled around quite a bit, not for work.

00:08:41Best audiences, where are they?

00:08:43That's interesting.

00:08:44I mean, very often the worst audiences can sometimes be on a Friday night

00:08:47when anyone's too tired.

00:08:49I sometimes think that in theatre, there should be,

00:08:52after five minutes of the show starting,

00:08:53there should be ten minutes where people just arrange props

00:08:55and walk around with nothing going on

00:08:57so that people can have their zis and then, you know...

00:09:02Wake up and join the plot.

00:09:03Wake up and start again.

00:09:04Do you know, it's funny, I was at the opera a couple of weeks ago

00:09:07and it is that first ten minutes in the first half.

00:09:09Yeah.

00:09:09And you're aware you've missed something.

00:09:11Oh, did I?

00:09:12Yeah.

00:09:12I don't remember them actually closing, but they obviously did.

00:09:16You've toured as well.

00:09:17I mean, sort of a one-woman show, that kind of thing.

00:09:19Yes, but not with the big theatre, not with the play.

00:09:24But I've done a one-woman show over the place.

00:09:26Do you like it? Do you enjoy that?

00:09:27I absolutely love it.

00:09:28And what I like best about touring in England rather than in America

00:09:32is that you can actually see the country in a way that in America

00:09:37you absolutely can't because you have to get in an aeroplane

00:09:40and you spend all your time in an airport.

00:09:43Are there disasters on tour, Robert?

00:09:45Well, there can be disasters every day.

00:09:49But yes, I mean, you can sometimes, you go down better than others.

00:09:53There was one when we were students

00:09:55and we were booked to do the University College London Summer Ball

00:09:58which meant going to, at midnight, going to Gower Street

00:10:03to the University College there.

00:10:04And we came down from Cambridge in our dinner jackets

00:10:07because that's what you wear for a ball.

00:10:08This was 1977 and certain sort of things in the zeitgeist

00:10:13hadn't quite reached Cambridge yet in terms of the scene.

00:10:16What you wore for a party.

00:10:17What you wore for a ball.

00:10:18And so we arrived and everybody was in jeans and stuff like that

00:10:21so the ties came off.

00:10:22And then we saw the poster which said,

00:10:24The Fabulous Poodles, which are a rock group, Ronnie Golden's rock group

00:10:28and The Cambridge Footlights and The Jam.

00:10:31I wish I'd kept the poster.

00:10:33But anyway, so The Poodles were late.

00:10:35We were meant to be on at midnight

00:10:36and we went on until two in the morning

00:10:38at the point when The Jam was supposed to be on.

00:10:41And you can imagine the disappointment of the audience

00:10:46when instead of seeing Paul Weller and his gang,

00:10:49we came on and we lasted five minutes, I think, probably.

00:10:52Well, you booed off.

00:10:53No, booed off.

00:10:54We booed off and hurled off.

00:10:55I mean, there was Jim Ulville who got very pugnacious

00:10:59and started saying,

00:11:00If you don't stop throwing that stuff,

00:11:02it all came.

00:11:04We got hurled off, quite rightly.

00:11:07Much more from Prue and Robert to come.

00:11:09Now, do help yourselves to anything here.

00:11:12There's all kinds of fancies,

00:11:14including the fondant fancy, one of our favourites.

00:11:17Still to come, showing us how to serve the perfect draft pints at home.

00:11:22Beer sommelier, Marvarene Cole,

00:11:24with the best British beer and cider kegs,

00:11:27perfect for the forthcoming party season.

00:11:30And I'm reunited with my four-legged namesake,

00:11:32Titch, our guide dog puppy,

00:11:34who returns to Manor Farm for a coddle and a catch-up.

00:11:38I'll be back with Titch and tales from the training room right after this.

00:11:42With December just around the corner,

00:11:59there's a certain allure to the British countryside in the winter months,

00:12:02with literacy lovers flocking to the Pennine Moors

00:12:06to evoke the mood of Wuthering Heights,

00:12:07while country's coastline is especially dramatic and enchanting on a stormy day.

00:12:13Equally enchanting is Prue-Leath,

00:12:16talking food, friendship and fun,

00:12:18and finding fame once more on the fashion catwalk.

00:12:21And Mr Darcy, eat your heart out.

00:12:23We're duelling, Jane Austen style.

00:12:26Regency fencing comes to Manor Farm,

00:12:28the original way to sort out a gentleman's dispute.

00:12:33But before all of that, it's time for a Manor Farm reunion.

00:12:36It's been over six months

00:12:38since the nation's favourite guide dog in training paid us a visit,

00:12:42and it's fair to say his life has been full of adventure.

00:12:46Not only has he said farewell to his puppy raisers,

00:12:48he's moved in with new foster parents and started big school.

00:12:52Midway through his early formal training to become a working guide dog,

00:12:58he returns to us today to show us how he's already developed on his journey

00:13:03alongside trainer Jackie Kent.

00:13:06Welcome to you both.

00:13:07Welcome, Titch.

00:13:08Lovely to see you again.

00:13:09Now, there's a calm face, if ever I saw one.

00:13:12Hello, old Bean.

00:13:13Lovely to see you again.

00:13:14Are you all right?

00:13:15You're doing so well.

00:13:16He is, isn't he, Jackie?

00:13:17He is.

00:13:18Yes, he is.

00:13:19He's doing very well with his training.

00:13:20So, tell us what he's been through, briefly,

00:13:23and then what he's doing now, what the change is.

00:13:26He left his puppy raisers, as you said,

00:13:29and he's moved in with his fosterers.

00:13:30He's settled in really well with his fosterers,

00:13:33and he's started his formal training with myself.

00:13:37He's now just about starting week eight of his formal training.

00:13:41And how long does it last?

00:13:43The early start of the training is 16 weeks,

00:13:46and then he'll have another 10 weeks advanced training

00:13:48with a guide dog mobility specialist.

00:13:51And that's the point where he will be matched

00:13:53with a potential guide dog owner.

00:13:55And the guide dog mobility specialist

00:13:57is the person who will train him with his guide dog owner.

00:14:00Gosh, well, here we have the harnesses here and everything.

00:14:03This is his training harness.

00:14:04So, the training harness is brown.

00:14:06When he's working with a guide dog owner,

00:14:08he'll have a white one.

00:14:09So, that's just to show that he's a dog in training at the moment.

00:14:12So, now he's with you doing training.

00:14:15He's got to get used to being out on his own.

00:14:18But still so many distractions.

00:14:19He's still a youngster.

00:14:20Remind us how old he is now.

00:14:21He's 16 months.

00:14:23Yeah.

00:14:23So, still quite young in dog terminology.

00:14:27But he's doing well with his training.

00:14:30When we start them off, we start in our indoor training rooms

00:14:32so we can lessen the amount of distractions in the environment.

00:14:34Fewer distractions.

00:14:35Teach him all the behaviours that he needs to know

00:14:38and then gradually start working on outdoor environments

00:14:41with more distractions.

00:14:43How old will he be when he's actually assigned to somebody permanently?

00:14:47You know, you've passed every test.

00:14:48Here you are.

00:14:48You are now a guide dog.

00:14:50What age will he be then?

00:14:51As long as everything goes to plan,

00:14:53he should be training with a guide dog owner in the middle of March.

00:14:56Gosh, not far away at all.

00:14:57Not far away at all.

00:14:58So, he'll move on to his advanced training in the middle of January

00:15:01and then on to a guide dog owner in March.

00:15:05So, it's roughly when they're around about two years old then.

00:15:07Approximately.

00:15:08Yeah.

00:15:08Again, they're all different.

00:15:10There are so many smells here for him, aren't there?

00:15:13Yeah, good boys.

00:15:13Well, look, we're going to let you show us, you know,

00:15:16part of his training.

00:15:17You've set up this course.

00:15:18He's keen to do something.

00:15:19Yeah.

00:15:20He's such a beautiful chef, not overfed.

00:15:22I mean, the great problem with labs is they eat anything and everything.

00:15:25Yeah.

00:15:25I know, as a lab owner, you know, former lab owner.

00:15:27It's very easy for them to become overweight.

00:15:30He's got those lovely snake hips.

00:15:31We manage our dog's diets very carefully.

00:15:33We weigh out their food in the morning

00:15:35and that's what I've got in my treat pouch

00:15:36is actually his daily allowance of food

00:15:38so that we're not overfeeding by adding a lot of treats in.

00:15:42But we use food in our training all the time.

00:15:45It's all very reward-based, food-based training.

00:15:48Fine.

00:15:49Okay.

00:15:50Go and start at the other end.

00:15:52Does he put his harness on him first?

00:15:53Yeah, we're going to put his harness on.

00:15:54Right, show us how you do that.

00:15:56Do you want me to hold anything?

00:15:57I think I'm okay.

00:15:58Thank you very much.

00:15:59So we've started this with just the body piece,

00:16:03just the brown leather piece,

00:16:05but he now has got the handle on.

00:16:07Good boy.

00:16:07Come on.

00:16:09Good boy.

00:16:09I was very impressed earlier on

00:16:10where he sat at my command,

00:16:12which makes me feel very special.

00:16:13But what the dogs are trained to do

00:16:15is to put their own heads into the harness.

00:16:17So when I hold it out,

00:16:19he pops his head straight in.

00:16:21Well done.

00:16:21We're very proud of you.

00:16:22You did that.

00:16:23Straight in.

00:16:25Clip it up.

00:16:27And we're good to go.

00:16:29Right.

00:16:30Off you go.

00:16:30So we'll show you what we're doing here.

00:16:33This is one of our training platforms.

00:16:35And he, as you can see,

00:16:36has been trained to stand on it.

00:16:39So what's the purpose of the platform then, Jackie?

00:16:41Why has he got to stand on that?

00:16:42The platform is something we use a lot in training

00:16:44to give the dogs a destination

00:16:46when we're working inside our training rooms.

00:16:49It's very difficult for a dog

00:16:50to just walk straight towards the wall

00:16:52at the end of the room.

00:16:53So by giving him a platform to aim for,

00:16:55he knows where he's going.

00:16:56And then I can use two platforms,

00:16:59as we've got here,

00:17:00to teach him just to give a little bit of pull

00:17:02into the harness.

00:17:03So we want the dogs to pull a little bit

00:17:05into the handle

00:17:05so that you can follow where they're going,

00:17:08but not too much

00:17:09that it gives you a sore shoulder.

00:17:10Yes.

00:17:10But the setup we've got here

00:17:12is moving on a step from that.

00:17:13So this is introducing obstacles

00:17:15and going around obstacles.

00:17:17So he now needs to go around this obstacle,

00:17:19but giving enough space on the right-hand side

00:17:22for me to go through

00:17:23without knocking my right shoulder.

00:17:25Right.

00:17:26He's literally guiding you around this.

00:17:28He's literally guiding me around.

00:17:29And obviously,

00:17:30all dogs will go around obstacles themselves.

00:17:32What he's got to learn

00:17:33is to allow that extra space

00:17:35for me to fit through with him

00:17:37alongside him.

00:17:38Let's see if he's learned to do that yet.

00:17:40He's learned it.

00:17:40I don't know.

00:17:41I'm very nervous.

00:17:43I feel very proprietary.

00:17:45Go on.

00:17:47Good boy.

00:17:48Oh, well wide.

00:17:50Well done.

00:17:52And straight on to that.

00:17:53Good boy.

00:17:54Oh, well done, Titch.

00:17:55Gosh.

00:17:56Good.

00:17:56And then I'll just turn him around

00:17:57and come back.

00:17:58Yeah.

00:17:59Okay.

00:18:00Come.

00:18:01Good lad.

00:18:03Good boy.

00:18:05Good.

00:18:08Forward.

00:18:09Good.

00:18:10Of course, he's all right that time.

00:18:11He can go nearer to it

00:18:12because you're on his other side.

00:18:13That's right.

00:18:14When the obstacle's on the left-hand side,

00:18:15he can go a little bit closer to it

00:18:17because he doesn't need to leave room for me.

00:18:19But you'll see from that,

00:18:20he's also learned to respond to a forward cue.

00:18:24So he knows when to set off.

00:18:25So it's always going to be my responsibility

00:18:27to tell him when to move off.

00:18:30He doesn't make that decision himself,

00:18:31including when we're crossing roads.

00:18:33That will always be the responsibility of the handler.

00:18:35Yeah.

00:18:36And there's a limit, presumably,

00:18:38as to how long these training episodes can take

00:18:40because they must get bored, tired, exhausted, whatever.

00:18:43So lots of short bursts.

00:18:45Lots of short sessions in the early days

00:18:47when they're learning all the new stuff

00:18:50and everything's new.

00:18:51When they get more used to it

00:18:53and it becomes a lot more second nature,

00:18:55that's when we start putting everything together

00:18:57out in the streets and doing training walks.

00:19:00And those walks can be up to 45 minutes long.

00:19:02Well, come and have a short one

00:19:03and come and sit back down.

00:19:05There you are.

00:19:06Well done, Titch.

00:19:07You did really well there.

00:19:08We're so impressed.

00:19:09Because I said to Jackie before,

00:19:10if you have to do it again,

00:19:11we'll just do it, you know,

00:19:13until you get it right

00:19:14and you got it right straight away.

00:19:15So from your point of view,

00:19:17is he a joy to work with?

00:19:18He's lovely to work with.

00:19:20I really, really enjoy working with him.

00:19:22He's just such a lovely dog to have around.

00:19:25He's so affectionate,

00:19:26but he's not demanding.

00:19:28He enjoys what he's doing.

00:19:30He's engaged.

00:19:32You know, we just have great fun when we're out.

00:19:34And people love to see him out and about

00:19:36and keep telling me how handsome he is.

00:19:38Don't let it go to your head.

00:19:40So how long do you have him for now

00:19:42before you have to hand him on?

00:19:43So I've got him for about another eight weeks.

00:19:45Yeah.

00:19:45Then I will hand him on to his guide dog mobility specialist

00:19:47and they will have him for ten weeks

00:19:50and match him with his guide dog owner.

00:19:52Right.

00:19:53Well, we want to keep up with you.

00:19:54So do keep it.

00:19:55Now, pay attention.

00:19:56Keep in touch, won't you?

00:19:58Eh?

00:19:58Oh, boy.

00:19:59Yeah.

00:19:59Isn't he special?

00:20:01Thank you, Jackie.

00:20:02Thank you very much.

00:20:03And thank you, Titch.

00:20:04Good boy.

00:20:04Special days, aren't they?

00:20:05Still to come, answering the call of nature,

00:20:08garden designer Chris Hull and carpenter Rob Bent

00:20:11join forces to make life a little easier

00:20:14for the wildlife in our gardens this winter

00:20:16and create a beautiful space for us to enjoy, too.

00:20:19And she's the make-off queen,

00:20:21known for her easy-to-follow,

00:20:23tried-and-tested and mouth-watering recipes.

00:20:25What's her own secret ingredient?

00:20:28Apparently, a nightly tipple

00:20:29and careering around on a Harley-Davidson.

00:20:32Questions will be asked

00:20:33and I'll be asking those questions and more, believe me,

00:20:36right after this.

00:20:37Prue, I'm on my way.

00:20:38MUSIC PLAYS

00:20:46Welcome back to Love Your Weekend.

00:20:54Coming up, Leslie Joseph goes wild about badgers.

00:20:57Things get wild in today's Best of British

00:21:00and we go wild about your pictures

00:21:02in today's Walk on the Wild Side.

00:21:04Also coming up, a man who's a perennial face on our screens,

00:21:08Robert Bathurst, enters the world of phone hacking

00:21:11in ITV's latest shocking drama, The Hack.

00:21:15But first, to a lady who really is the icing on the cake,

00:21:20entertaining millions of Bake Off fans

00:21:22with her witty critiques, honest feedback

00:21:25and mischievous sense of humour.

00:21:27Just ask Danny Dyer.

00:21:30I had a child very young, we had a little flat

00:21:32and I tried to build a wardrobe.

00:21:33So I've done it all,

00:21:34but I built myself into the wardrobe

00:21:36so I couldn't get out.

00:21:38I had to punch the back of it to get out.

00:21:40It was a disaster.

00:21:42My missus still mocks me to this day.

00:21:44And how often does she bring it up?

00:21:45Quite often.

00:21:46Only when we've got company.

00:21:49Danny, you've got to bite the bullet,

00:21:50you've got to put it on fast

00:21:51and then it stops instantly.

00:21:53If you do it slow, it makes it worse.

00:21:58Paul, you are so unkind.

00:22:00It's all right, Paul, don't worry, mate.

00:22:01I'll remember that.

00:22:04Danny Dyer's sporting his rival's moustache there.

00:22:08You get on, it seems, very well with Paul.

00:22:10I love him to do it.

00:22:12He is lovely.

00:22:13I've stopped enjoying his company now

00:22:14because we did a show together,

00:22:17the Gardner's World Live show in Birmingham,

00:22:19which is coupled with the Good Food show.

00:22:21We were opening it together

00:22:22and he introduced me as his father.

00:22:23So I've not really liked him very much ever since then.

00:22:28Well, he does like to tease you.

00:22:32I mean, he always talks to me

00:22:34as if I'm a very old lady, you know.

00:22:36Oh, I am a very old lady.

00:22:37But he says,

00:22:38are you all right, dearie?

00:22:42Cheeky monkey.

00:22:42Cheeky, yeah.

00:22:43You took over from Mary,

00:22:45who has dearly loved it,

00:22:46but you've now been doing it for eight years.

00:22:48Nine is, yeah.

00:22:48Nine, wow.

00:22:50I've actually done it,

00:22:51not that we're competitive, of course,

00:22:54but I've actually done it

00:22:55one year longer than Mary did.

00:22:58Mary, you've done it one year longer than...

00:23:00Well, I know both of you well.

00:23:02I adore her.

00:23:03But Mary has a great time for you.

00:23:04There is a mutual admiration there.

00:23:06You're respectful of her.

00:23:06She's a great woman.

00:23:08You know, my husband always says,

00:23:10I don't bake very much.

00:23:11People think I must be a fantastic baker

00:23:13because I judge baking,

00:23:15but what I am is a good set of taste buds.

00:23:17I mean, you know,

00:23:18I judged the great British menu

00:23:20for many, many years.

00:23:22And of course, I had a cookery school,

00:23:23so I was always judging food.

00:23:25So that's why I'm there,

00:23:27but not for my baking skills.

00:23:30I mean, I can make a good cake,

00:23:31but I'm not a great baker.

00:23:33Anyway, we don't make...

00:23:34I don't make cake at home

00:23:36because both John and I are too fat,

00:23:38so we don't have cake.

00:23:41And every now and again,

00:23:43he'll say...

00:23:44In fact, he says it quite often.

00:23:45He says, you know,

00:23:47people say to him,

00:23:48you must have wonderful cake at home.

00:23:50He says, you know,

00:23:51I live in a cake-free zone

00:23:52and I should have married Mary Berry.

00:23:56And he said it enough times

00:23:58for Mary to get quite sick of it.

00:24:00Oh, quite worried.

00:24:02When you...

00:24:03I watch you going around all these things

00:24:04and it's a lot to taste.

00:24:07Tasting all that,

00:24:08I mean, when it comes to lunchtime

00:24:09when you're doing bake-off,

00:24:10presumably you just don't want to touch anything.

00:24:11Do you?

00:24:11You've eaten quite a lot all the way around.

00:24:14Well, the trick is to...

00:24:16If you think that a teaspoon,

00:24:19you can get a bit of the cake crumb,

00:24:21a bit of the icing

00:24:22and a bit of the filling

00:24:23all on one teaspoon.

00:24:25So if you're disciplined,

00:24:26you could judge that cake with one teaspoon.

00:24:29The trick is to try not to have a second.

00:24:31And if you watch us,

00:24:33Paul never, ever has a second bite.

00:24:35He always judges on one bite.

00:24:37But I can't resist it,

00:24:39especially at the beginning,

00:24:40in the morning,

00:24:41when I'm really hungry.

00:24:43So I go in.

00:24:44But you know what?

00:24:45I'm of the generation

00:24:46who counts calories.

00:24:48All my...

00:24:49Anybody of my age

00:24:50knows how many calories there are

00:24:52in almost anything.

00:24:54So mentally,

00:24:54I count the calories.

00:24:56And you know you're not supposed to eat.

00:24:57Women shouldn't have

00:24:58more than 2,000 a day.

00:25:00So I know

00:25:01that if I'm disciplined

00:25:03about what I eat,

00:25:05I'll...

00:25:06And I don't have breakfast

00:25:08and I don't have lunch.

00:25:10I just eat cake, basically.

00:25:12I might have eaten 1,500 calories

00:25:14by the end of the day.

00:25:16But then I think

00:25:17that leaves me 500 for supper.

00:25:19So I'll have a couple of glasses of wine.

00:25:22So basically,

00:25:23when I'm on bake-off,

00:25:24I live on cake and wine.

00:25:26It's a very nice diet.

00:25:27Well, if ever Paul drops out

00:25:29and you want another presenter

00:25:30who can't bake,

00:25:31I'll come and join in

00:25:33and settle for that kind of diet.

00:25:35The other programme

00:25:35we know you for now

00:25:36is on a Saturday,

00:25:37which is Prueleith's

00:25:39Cotswold Kitchen.

00:25:40And this comes from your own home.

00:25:42Let's have a look at you in action

00:25:43with your husband, John.

00:25:45We start by chopping some onion.

00:25:48How's your onion chopping

00:25:49getting on, John?

00:25:51It's not.

00:25:52Would you like a bit of practice?

00:25:53I know this is your speciality.

00:25:57Like that.

00:26:00Right.

00:26:04That's right.

00:26:06This is nothing like

00:26:08the way you do it.

00:26:11I don't think you're going to get

00:26:12a lease certificate

00:26:13for perfect onion chopping,

00:26:15but you're on the way.

00:26:16Could I have a sticker?

00:26:17No.

00:26:18Not yet.

00:26:19The chopped onion

00:26:20goes into the pan with some oil.

00:26:23You just need to soften the onions

00:26:25rather than brown them.

00:26:27Let's see if you can do

00:26:28the chef's shake.

00:26:32That's right.

00:26:33Yeah.

00:26:34The trick is always

00:26:35to have it at that angle

00:26:37and then,

00:26:38yeah.

00:26:39That's right.

00:26:42It's got it

00:26:43back on the heat

00:26:44in between shakes.

00:26:47John has become

00:26:48the Johnny Craddock,

00:26:49really,

00:26:49of the Prue-Leath world.

00:26:51In fact,

00:26:51for those who do not remember

00:26:52Fanny Craddock.

00:26:53Well,

00:26:53I don't think

00:26:54I have quite that vibe,

00:26:56but I am slightly regretting

00:27:00bringing him into the show,

00:27:01you know,

00:27:02because he has become

00:27:03so popular

00:27:04and people absolutely love him.

00:27:06And the other day

00:27:07I'm in the co-op

00:27:08with him

00:27:10and we're shopping

00:27:10and the woman

00:27:12at the checkout

00:27:12says,

00:27:14you're John Playfair,

00:27:15you're off the telly,

00:27:16you're the Prue-Leaths

00:27:17Cotswold kitchen.

00:27:18She said,

00:27:19I love you.

00:27:20In fact,

00:27:20I'm in love with you.

00:27:21And she's absolutely

00:27:22at him like this.

00:27:23And there am I,

00:27:24packing the bags,

00:27:26not a glance my way,

00:27:28Alan,

00:27:28not a glance my way.

00:27:29I said,

00:27:30I think this is a mistake.

00:27:33He says that quite soon

00:27:34it'll be John Playfair's

00:27:36Cotswold kitchen.

00:27:37And I'll be lucky

00:27:38if I get a walk on pub.

00:27:40But he has got,

00:27:41what surprised me,

00:27:42you know,

00:27:43your look now

00:27:44has become famous

00:27:44because you love

00:27:45bright colours,

00:27:46which my wife thinks

00:27:47is wonderful.

00:27:48She gets fed up

00:27:48of seeing everybody

00:27:49in black coats

00:27:49on the station platform,

00:27:50you know.

00:27:51And here you are,

00:27:52slice of sunshine

00:27:53coming into our

00:27:54Sunday morning.

00:27:55But this is not you,

00:27:57apparently.

00:27:58Well,

00:27:58John is the one

00:27:59who buys all my clothes.

00:28:02I mean...

00:28:02You see,

00:28:03this is real reversal.

00:28:04Generally speaking,

00:28:05the woman,

00:28:06now,

00:28:07generally,

00:28:08buys clothes for the man.

00:28:09But this is total

00:28:10rollover,

00:28:10so the man

00:28:11is buying your clothes.

00:28:12He loves shopping.

00:28:13I hate shopping.

00:28:14Do you?

00:28:15I hate shopping

00:28:16and I never have to do it.

00:28:18I mean,

00:28:18especially I hate

00:28:20clothes shopping

00:28:20because,

00:28:21you know,

00:28:22I just don't know

00:28:22how to manage it.

00:28:24But he loves it

00:28:25and he's very good at it.

00:28:26He'll look in a shop

00:28:27and he...

00:28:29If you want a shirt

00:28:31and you want a pink one,

00:28:32he won't look at anything else,

00:28:34he'll just look at the shirts

00:28:35and he'll stand at the door

00:28:36and if he can see

00:28:37there's no pink one,

00:28:38he won't walk in the shop.

00:28:40Whereas,

00:28:40of course,

00:28:40I would wander in

00:28:41and start getting distracted

00:28:42and think I might have that

00:28:44and then I'd get tired

00:28:45and want a cup of coffee.

00:28:45You've become

00:28:46a catwalk model

00:28:47all through meeting

00:28:49somebody on a train,

00:28:51somebody called Omi.

00:28:52Now,

00:28:53tell me about this.

00:28:54Well,

00:28:55I travel up and down

00:28:56to London a lot

00:28:57and I find myself

00:28:59sitting opposite

00:28:59this chap,

00:29:01Omi,

00:29:02on the train

00:29:04and he turned out

00:29:06to be an absolutely

00:29:06fascinating Korean guy

00:29:08who's...

00:29:10And his husband

00:29:11or boyfriend

00:29:12is called Vin

00:29:14and they turn out

00:29:15to be fashion designers.

00:29:17But what they do

00:29:18is that what they're

00:29:18obsessed with

00:29:19is sustainability.

00:29:21So they do these catwalks,

00:29:23always advertising

00:29:24sustainable fabrics

00:29:25and how you can...

00:29:26Because the fashion trade

00:29:27is absolutely disgraceful

00:29:29at wasting water

00:29:30and, you know,

00:29:32using too much carbon

00:29:33and so on.

00:29:34And so he said,

00:29:35would you walk

00:29:36in my fashion show?

00:29:37And I thought,

00:29:37well, I've never done that

00:29:38and I usually like

00:29:39doing things I've never done.

00:29:41So I said, yes.

00:29:42And the first one,

00:29:43I wore a dress

00:29:44that was made out

00:29:45of willow bark

00:29:47from the Sandringham estate

00:29:48because he has a...

00:29:50They have a partnership

00:29:51with the king

00:29:52about...

00:29:53because obviously

00:29:53he wants to promote

00:29:54sustainability.

00:29:56And then the next time

00:29:58he said,

00:29:59well, I'd do it again.

00:30:01And I love doing it.

00:30:02I'm not very good at it.

00:30:03You know,

00:30:04these long-legged models

00:30:05go so fast

00:30:07I can't keep up with them.

00:30:08But anyway,

00:30:09I trail along behind them.

00:30:12And the second time

00:30:13they said,

00:30:14will you do it again?

00:30:16And I said,

00:30:17well, I haven't got time

00:30:18to have a fitting.

00:30:19So they said,

00:30:20don't worry,

00:30:20we've got your measurements.

00:30:21Just turn up on the day

00:30:22and we'll put you in it.

00:30:23When I turned up,

00:30:25they had this latex black tube

00:30:29which took two men

00:30:30to pull it onto me.

00:30:32It was a sort of bondage gear

00:30:35with two slits

00:30:37and thongs,

00:30:39red thongs

00:30:39on the red,

00:30:40on the black leather.

00:30:42It was like a black...

00:30:42It wasn't leather,

00:30:43it was latex.

00:30:44Black latex.

00:30:45And I strutted down

00:30:47and they made me up

00:30:48with very gothic makeup

00:30:51and no...

00:30:51I had no glasses

00:30:52but spiky hair.

00:30:53I looked really fearsome

00:30:55and terrifying

00:30:55and I marched down.

00:30:58Do you know,

00:30:58I'm such a show-off.

00:30:59I so loved it.

00:31:01Loved it.

00:31:02And last time I did,

00:31:04I had a dress

00:31:06made out of recycled

00:31:07RAF parachute silk,

00:31:10red.

00:31:11Yeah.

00:31:11And it just,

00:31:12it was so wonderful.

00:31:14But that is such an image.

00:31:16I mean,

00:31:16the luminous,

00:31:17glorious dress.

00:31:18And I just sailed along.

00:31:20It was fantastic.

00:31:21But there is one thing

00:31:22you've got wrong

00:31:23about modelling

00:31:24and I have to tell you this

00:31:25and I'm so glad

00:31:27you got this wrong

00:31:27because you smile

00:31:28when you're walking

00:31:29down the catwalk.

00:31:30I've never seen...

00:31:31Models are always amazed

00:31:32because they're all done

00:31:33looking so fed up.

00:31:34I cannot do that.

00:31:35It's a cross look,

00:31:37you know,

00:31:37because it's just so funny.

00:31:38And anyhow,

00:31:39it's all,

00:31:39the whole thing's so joyous.

00:31:41So I'm,

00:31:41you know,

00:31:42so I don't,

00:31:42they don't want me to smile.

00:31:45I'm there for the amusement value.

00:31:49What's the reaction

00:31:49of the other models to you

00:31:50when you're coming on?

00:31:51Well,

00:31:51they're absolutely wonderful.

00:31:52They're all,

00:31:53you know,

00:31:53because what they're doing

00:31:55is,

00:31:55it's a charity

00:31:56and they're doing it

00:31:57to prevent sustainability.

00:31:58All these professional models

00:32:00are giving their time

00:32:01for free.

00:32:02They say,

00:32:02give up a day

00:32:03of their lives really

00:32:03because you rehearse

00:32:04in one morning.

00:32:05And they're,

00:32:06they're such great girls.

00:32:08They're just amazing.

00:32:09It seems to me

00:32:09that you are always looking

00:32:11for the next thing

00:32:12that you've never done before

00:32:14but that you're happy

00:32:15to do now.

00:32:15And have you really

00:32:16got a Harley Davidson motorbike?

00:32:18No,

00:32:18it's John's,

00:32:19it's not mine.

00:32:19But you're,

00:32:20are you a pillion rider?

00:32:21I'm a pillion rider

00:32:21and it's so comfy

00:32:22and it's a trike.

00:32:24It's got three wheels

00:32:26and his children

00:32:27call it his mobility scooter

00:32:28which is probably

00:32:29a bit politically incorrect.

00:32:32But you sit in this leather seat

00:32:35and it sort of hugs your bum

00:32:37and it's comfy

00:32:39and it's safe

00:32:40and you don't have any

00:32:41of that awful thing

00:32:42of a motorbike

00:32:43where you have to lean to...

00:32:45Well I've got this vision

00:32:47now of Prue Leith

00:32:48in a rubber bondage suit

00:32:51on the back

00:32:52of a Harley Davidson

00:32:53so if you see somebody

00:32:54of that description

00:32:54going down your local road

00:32:56you know who it is.

00:32:58Thank you Prue.

00:32:59Thanks Alan.

00:33:00Always lovely to talk to you.

00:33:03Photos,

00:33:03snapshots,

00:33:04stills,

00:33:05whatever you call them,

00:33:06pictures are worth

00:33:07a thousand words

00:33:08and if that's the case

00:33:09we have a good few

00:33:10for you right now.

00:33:11It's time

00:33:11for Walk on the Wild Side.

00:33:15Your dose of nature

00:33:16sorted.

00:33:17Walk on the Wild Side

00:33:19on Love Your Weekend

00:33:20sponsored by WWF.

00:33:45and you'll see us next week.

00:33:50I'll see you next week.

00:34:08.

00:34:10ORGAN PLAYS

00:34:40ORGAN PLAYS

00:35:10or in Cold Feet, poor Karen.

00:35:12Robert Bathurst on leading the way in popular drama.

00:35:15And he's not finished yet.

00:35:17And when the garden looks like a lost cause,

00:35:19it's time to call in the big boys.

00:35:21Chris Hull and Rob Bent

00:35:22unite to create show-stopping interests

00:35:25in your garden this winter,

00:35:27packed with colour and welcoming to wildlife.

00:35:30I'll be back with Chris and Rob

00:35:31and their nature-friendly transformation.

00:35:33Right after this.

00:35:46Welcome back to Love Your Weekend.

00:35:49Coming up, do you know your appell from your advance,

00:35:53your cool from your coupé?

00:35:55The Manor Farm Barn opens its impressive doors

00:35:58as we celebrate the art of Regency fencing.

00:36:01The Jane Austen way.

00:36:03And roll out the barrel, well, barrels to be precise,

00:36:06beer expert Marvarene Cole has the draft beer and cider kegs

00:36:10you can pour yourself, pints straight from the barrel.

00:36:14Before that, it's time for your voice of nature.

00:36:18Here's Ben Miller and Something Told the Wild Geese by Rachel Field.

00:36:31Something told the wild geese it was time to go.

00:36:36Though the fields lay golden, something whispered snow.

00:36:40Leaves were green and stirring, berries lustre-glossed,

00:36:46but beneath warm feathers, something cautioned frost.

00:36:53All the sagging orchards steamed with amber spice,

00:36:58but each wild breast stiffened at remembered ice.

00:37:02Something told the wild geese it was time to fly.

00:37:07Summer sun was on their wings, winter in their cry.

00:37:13Oh, thank you, Ben. Wonderful.

00:37:23What a description of migrating geese

00:37:25before the harshness of winter's arrival.

00:37:27There's something so special about seeing their formations

00:37:30skimming through the sky in those great skeins.

00:37:34Now, it's fair to say the garden can be lacking in joie de vie in winter

00:37:40with a grey and uninspiring outlook,

00:37:43but if you're willing to brave the cold,

00:37:46then getting outside and adding the right plants and features

00:37:49can have a huge impact,

00:37:51making your garden not only inviting for you,

00:37:54but a haven for wildlife too.

00:37:56Here to help us add some much-needed colour and life

00:38:00into our winter borders

00:38:01while also supporting nature around us.

00:38:04Welcome back.

00:38:05Garden designer Chris Hull

00:38:06with an absolute...

00:38:08This is not dull, is it?

00:38:09No.

00:38:10It's wonderfully bright and cheery.

00:38:11It is.

00:38:12Just showing that if you choose the right things,

00:38:13it can be.

00:38:14Definitely.

00:38:15I think people get a bit worried about winter

00:38:17because they think the garden switches off

00:38:18and it's all going to be cut back and bare borders,

00:38:21but clearly it doesn't need to be

00:38:23if you put the right things in.

00:38:24The right things.

00:38:25Looking at some evergreens, I mean, I do love pines.

00:38:27Exactly.

00:38:28And not all of them are socking great Scots pines,

00:38:30are there some smaller ones as well?

00:38:32There are.

00:38:32You can get some dwarfing varieties.

00:38:34That one is going to be a big one,

00:38:35but you can get a dwarf variety of that.

00:38:37So this is which one?

00:38:38So this is Pines sylvestris, it's Scots pine.

00:38:40Scots pine.

00:38:40Yeah, yeah.

00:38:41But it's got that brilliant sort of line,

00:38:44zingy foliage, isn't it?

00:38:45Yes, sort of yellowy tinge to it.

00:38:47I do like that.

00:38:48I do.

00:38:48It's all about contrast for me in winter.

00:38:50Yeah.

00:38:50Because it's quite bleak and grey outside,

00:38:52and it's about getting those really poppy contrasting colors.

00:38:54Vibrant.

00:38:55Just because it's always...

00:38:56The light intensity's low, isn't it?

00:38:58You need stuff to sing out even more.

00:39:00You've got some here.

00:39:01I mean, you've got eucalyptus.

00:39:03Dangerous as a tree because it's so rampant,

00:39:05but stooled, cut down.

00:39:08Exactly.

00:39:08It can just come up with this freshen foliage.

00:39:10You know, and then new foliage is so much nicer, isn't it?

00:39:13As well as you get the little rings.

00:39:14So that looks really great,

00:39:15and it's just a different color to add into the mix,

00:39:17that really silvery grey.

00:39:18Yeah.

00:39:19And then some winter garden favorites are the cornice

00:39:21and the Himalayan birch, this one is,

00:39:24but the white color.

00:39:24So I really love pairing cornice against this white bark

00:39:28with both the red and the sort of zingy yellowy orange.

00:39:30Aren't they fab in winter?

00:39:32They're brilliant.

00:39:32That's it.

00:39:33So it's all about the stems here.

00:39:34Yeah.

00:39:35And then in other parts of this display,

00:39:37you know, it's more about the foliage.

00:39:38So obviously here we've got a grass,

00:39:40which has been left to stand tall,

00:39:43and it just looks so good with the frost on.

00:39:44This is miscanthus grass.

00:39:46So great all year round and through the winter.

00:39:48And again, for wildlife insects in there,

00:39:51birds picking off the seeds,

00:39:52it's a multi-purpose plant, doesn't it?

00:39:54They do, absolutely.

00:39:55And then we've got things like this,

00:39:56obelia, which I love the colors on it,

00:39:57but even the flowers still hanging on.

00:39:59Flowers still trying to come.

00:40:00But it burnishes, doesn't it, with the cold weather?

00:40:03It does.

00:40:03Yeah.

00:40:03Buffed up.

00:40:04And then in terms of wildlife even,

00:40:06we've got a little hedgehog house tucked in down there.

00:40:08Yeah.

00:40:09So it's just a little haven.

00:40:10If you put it in the right place,

00:40:11nestled in amongst plants,

00:40:12some leaves in there,

00:40:14I reckon they'll go.

00:40:14Lovely foliage here from this Mahonia.

00:40:16I know.

00:40:17So this one's called soft caress,

00:40:18which it's probably one of the only Mahonias

00:40:20that you could caress.

00:40:21Yeah, you go into a normal Mahonia,

00:40:22ah, but this is just soft caress.

00:40:25It is.

00:40:26It's really lovely.

00:40:27No forms at all.

00:40:27And the good thing with these

00:40:28is you can put them against things

00:40:29like this beautiful water feature

00:40:31and you get that contrast

00:40:32with the really soft foliage.

00:40:34And then we've got some other winter favorites in there,

00:40:36the calicarpa.

00:40:37Do you like it?

00:40:38The beauty of love or hate.

00:40:38Do you know,

00:40:39I've never really been able to get on with it

00:40:40because it's such an artificial color.

00:40:42People sort of think,

00:40:43oh, well, that can't be real.

00:40:44Calicarpa, the beautyberry.

00:40:45I mean, but it's for me,

00:40:47I'm not a real fan of purple.

00:40:49I'm always strong with purple,

00:40:50but I love the skimmier

00:40:51with the buds that are rosy red.

00:40:53Yeah, they're beautiful.

00:40:54And you've got a little hellebore down there.

00:40:56Hellebore, the ferns,

00:40:57another dwarf conifer in there.

00:40:59So it's good to have a mix of evergreens,

00:41:02non-evergreens,

00:41:03and you can play with, you know,

00:41:04bark, berries, foliage

00:41:05and just get quite creative.

00:41:06And even do a corner

00:41:07or a corner of your patio,

00:41:08your terrace that's got things in

00:41:10which are just for winter.

00:41:11You can move the pots around.

00:41:12Exactly.

00:41:12Something you can see from the inside

00:41:14so you don't have to go outside.

00:41:15Yeah, this is all container grown.

00:41:16So you can grow.

00:41:17And I love the fact that,

00:41:18because in winter,

00:41:20the ones that are solar powered

00:41:21stop, don't they?

00:41:22They do.

00:41:22You've got this panel

00:41:23which fuels it

00:41:25and it's got batteries at the back.

00:41:27You can charge it up.

00:41:28So yeah, even in winter,

00:41:29you keep the water moving,

00:41:30stops your pond freezing over so quickly

00:41:32or going a bit stagnant.

00:41:34So it's especially good

00:41:35if you do have some plants in there as well.

00:41:37You know, and it's still great for wildlife.

00:41:39I've got one of these at home

00:41:40and all the birds,

00:41:40they sit around the edge

00:41:41and peck in there.

00:41:42And what I've found in some ways

00:41:44is that the bees come.

00:41:45It's a shallow dish of water.

00:41:47Bees all the way around the edge,

00:41:48honeybees.

00:41:49And then going off back to the house

00:41:50and using the water.

00:41:50Yeah, they do.

00:41:50They love it.

00:41:51Now, I'm not an enormous fan

00:41:54of trachealuspermum,

00:41:56the star jasmine.

00:41:57Well, I don't know why,

00:41:58I don't know why.

00:41:58It all seems to be a bit scrappy sometimes,

00:42:00but wow.

00:42:01I mean, it's a statement, isn't it?

00:42:03Yeah.

00:42:04So this has grown onto a panel

00:42:05which is really great.

00:42:06Great against a boundary or a wall

00:42:08and it's just such a dark colour.

00:42:10When I was talking about contrast,

00:42:11you know, this is it.

00:42:12If you have something like this cornice,

00:42:14you know, in front of that,

00:42:15it's beautiful, isn't it?

00:42:16And it's good cover as well

00:42:17for birds and for insects.

00:42:18You've got a little bug hotel in there.

00:42:20Yeah.

00:42:21It's really sweet.

00:42:22Then we've got a birdhouse

00:42:23over here as well.

00:42:24A little nesting spot for them.

00:42:26Yeah.

00:42:27And the great comes from the smoke bush,

00:42:28the catanus.

00:42:29And it's just vivid scarlet.

00:42:32Especially when you get the light

00:42:33coming through it.

00:42:33It really sort of illuminates it,

00:42:35doesn't it?

00:42:35And then you obviously get the flower heads

00:42:37that sit on it just going into winter as well.

00:42:40Until they all blow off

00:42:40and cover your driveway.

00:42:41Well, smoke.

00:42:42Exactly.

00:42:43Yeah.

00:42:44So you've got,

00:42:45you see, topiary in winter for me,

00:42:47I love clipped yew.

00:42:48Yeah.

00:42:48In either orbs like that one

00:42:50or pyramids or cones or whatever.

00:42:52Especially if you have them like that

00:42:54and you're lucky enough

00:42:54to get a bit of snow

00:42:55and it sits on the top

00:42:57like your little hat.

00:42:58I love that.

00:42:58Yeah.

00:42:58So that's really good

00:42:59to give you a bit of structure,

00:43:01especially if you contrast it

00:43:02against something a little bit

00:43:03more textural,

00:43:04like the Mahonia.

00:43:05So it's always good

00:43:06about having the contrast

00:43:07between the two.

00:43:08You can't go wrong there.

00:43:09And fruit.

00:43:10Important for birds.

00:43:11Exactly.

00:43:12Great for us to look at

00:43:13because it looks beautiful

00:43:14but brilliant for wildlife,

00:43:16isn't it?

00:43:16I mean, it's stunning.

00:43:18Especially because

00:43:18it gets bigger and bigger

00:43:19and they'll hang out

00:43:20over your other planting.

00:43:22So great at the back of a border

00:43:23or in the middle

00:43:23of a very deep border

00:43:24and then you can underplant it

00:43:26as well, can't you?

00:43:26So as well as food,

00:43:27we need to think about water

00:43:28for the birds as well

00:43:29and keeping it clean and fresh.

00:43:30We do, exactly.

00:43:31So, and this is the sort of thing

00:43:32that, you know,

00:43:33this will freeze over in winter

00:43:34but it is good

00:43:35to keep that topped up.

00:43:37Now, a log pile.

00:43:38Something so simple

00:43:39but I love it in a garden.

00:43:41Looks good in a winter garden

00:43:42because it gives you

00:43:43that structure all year round

00:43:44and especially if you do

00:43:45what I've done here

00:43:46and you tuck some plants

00:43:48in behind that will spill out over

00:43:49like the ferns, the skimmia.

00:43:51Just adds a bit more interest

00:43:52but I can imagine

00:43:53some little frogs hiding in there.

00:43:55There'd be frogs,

00:43:56there'd be insects,

00:43:57again, the birds will feed them.

00:43:57They were done all the invertebrates.

00:43:59We do also have

00:44:00over at the front there,

00:44:01a little frog house.

00:44:04That's one that you can buy

00:44:05and ponk near your pond

00:44:06or somewhere in a damp border

00:44:08and you know that

00:44:08they're just going to hide out

00:44:09underneath it.

00:44:10It's lovely to show

00:44:11there's a time of year

00:44:12when everybody thinks

00:44:13oh, that's it, it's done.

00:44:14I'm going indoors until Easter now.

00:44:16Well, don't.

00:44:17Plant up some of Chris's recommendations

00:44:19and you'll have a garden

00:44:21that really is worth going out into

00:44:22even if it's not quite

00:44:24sunbathing weather.

00:44:25Yeah.

00:44:26Thanks, Chris.

00:44:27Now, one addition to the garden

00:44:29that's guaranteed to create interest

00:44:30this winter is a bird table

00:44:32offering not only the opportunity

00:44:34for bird watching,

00:44:36it provides wild birds

00:44:37with essential extra energy

00:44:39during challenging seasons

00:44:41like winter

00:44:42when the crabapple fruits

00:44:43have all faded.

00:44:44So why not make your own?

00:44:46Time now

00:44:46to check in on a man

00:44:48who knows a thing or two

00:44:49about creating habitats

00:44:50for birds,

00:44:51our chicken coop supremo.

00:44:53carpenter, Rob Bent.

00:44:59Well, we need the rain

00:45:00in the countryside.

00:45:01It's just started to tip

00:45:03so we're under a lovely canopy

00:45:05that Rob always brings with him

00:45:06because you see,

00:45:07he's clever like that.

00:45:08He knows it's always going to rain.

00:45:09I'm going to stay dry

00:45:10in your T-shirt,

00:45:12me and me tweed,

00:45:13with a multi-story bird table.

00:45:16And this is no ordinary bird table.

00:45:18Oh, exactly.

00:45:18It's a high-rise one.

00:45:20Solid, sturdy.

00:45:21Yeah.

00:45:22And lots of space

00:45:23for the birds to eat.

00:45:24Yeah.

00:45:25So you've built your main frame

00:45:27of, again,

00:45:28it's protected timber,

00:45:30it's treated timber.

00:45:30Yeah, so all of this

00:45:31is treated timber.

00:45:32Yeah.

00:45:32And what I did

00:45:32is I made the most

00:45:34of what we had.

00:45:35So you remember

00:45:35we bought the chicken coop

00:45:36a little while ago.

00:45:37Do I remember the chicken coop?

00:45:39The epic chicken coop.

00:45:40The epic chicken coop.

00:45:41Went on and on.

00:45:42Yeah.

00:45:42Well, all of this

00:45:44is all leftover material

00:45:45from building that.

00:45:46So instead of

00:45:47spending money

00:45:48and getting additional materials,

00:45:49kind of use what you have.

00:45:51So you've got a really sturdy

00:45:52cross of legs down here.

00:45:54Yep.

00:45:54And also,

00:45:55now this is vital.

00:45:56Bits of,

00:45:57what I would have called

00:45:572v1 in the old days,

00:45:58in old money,

00:45:59underneath.

00:46:00Yeah, exactly right.

00:46:00To keep the bottom off

00:46:02and stop it rotting.

00:46:03Yeah, exactly.

00:46:03So that keeps it away

00:46:04from the damp

00:46:05and then once these,

00:46:06actually go themselves

00:46:07and rot away,

00:46:08all you need to do

00:46:08is replace them.

00:46:09Replace them

00:46:09and not the base itself.

00:46:10Exactly.

00:46:11Now this is rather clever.

00:46:12I thought,

00:46:12oh, look what he's done.

00:46:13He's cut a square hole,

00:46:15dropped it down

00:46:16and then I saw

00:46:17it's actually

00:46:18two pieces.

00:46:20Can you see that?

00:46:21Two pieces there

00:46:22that are joined in the,

00:46:23so you've glued them

00:46:24in the middle

00:46:24and fitted them

00:46:25either side of that.

00:46:28Yeah, so I've glued

00:46:29and I've pocket screwed

00:46:30from underneath

00:46:30so it's a good joint,

00:46:32nice and solid

00:46:33and then supported it

00:46:34with more

00:46:35timber underneath here.

00:46:37On the underside.

00:46:38So that is a really

00:46:39sturdy thing.

00:46:40However,

00:46:41it seems to lack

00:46:42anything to keep

00:46:43the rain off the birds.

00:46:45Well, funny you mention that.

00:46:48Here's one

00:46:49I made earlier.

00:46:50Oh yeah.

00:46:51Look at that.

00:46:51Now let's just have a look

00:46:52at the underside of that.

00:46:53Look at that.

00:46:53You see,

00:46:54the lovely thing

00:46:54about your stuff

00:46:55is it's so drumming solid.

00:46:57So you've got

00:46:58a little tiny bit

00:46:58in there let in.

00:47:00Those two

00:47:00strengthens there.

00:47:02Yeah,

00:47:02and it's all glued,

00:47:03all pinned up

00:47:04and everything

00:47:05is treated timber.

00:47:06Yeah,

00:47:06so that sits

00:47:07in the middle there.

00:47:07And that just slots

00:47:08right there

00:47:09and then I just

00:47:10get my pin gun.

00:47:11Watch out there,

00:47:12Alan.

00:47:12I don't want to,

00:47:12I don't want to hit you

00:47:14with one.

00:47:14And then

00:47:15there we go.

00:47:17One there on that side.

00:47:19One there on the other.

00:47:20What did we do

00:47:21without those?

00:47:22We had an arm and a nail.

00:47:23And that's it.

00:47:24Nice and in place.

00:47:25Now you've got no rims

00:47:25on the edges

00:47:26so the seed's

00:47:27going to fall off a bit.

00:47:28Does that matter?

00:47:28No, no, no.

00:47:29That should be all right.

00:47:30It's good for the ground

00:47:31feeders as well.

00:47:31Yeah, exactly that.

00:47:32A bit left over.

00:47:34And with this,

00:47:35I kind of don't want

00:47:36to leave any sides

00:47:37on this

00:47:37because then if water

00:47:38manages to pool

00:47:39inside here

00:47:40then that'll start

00:47:41eating away at the timber.

00:47:42You thought that one

00:47:42through, didn't you?

00:47:43Think of everything.

00:47:45Thanks ever so much, Rob.

00:47:46There's a lot of time

00:47:47gone into this

00:47:48and we just come and say,

00:47:49have you got on?

00:47:49Oh, there we are.

00:47:51But we can see now

00:47:52how it's built in

00:47:53and how sturdy it is

00:47:54and the birds here

00:47:55at Manor Farm

00:47:56are going to really enjoy

00:47:57that as the weather

00:47:57gets colder and colder.

00:47:58Yeah, and I hope they do.

00:47:59They will.

00:48:00We'll give it a good scrub

00:48:01between feeds

00:48:01so it's nice and healthy

00:48:03for them.

00:48:04And on a day like this

00:48:05it's quite good

00:48:06to be underneath this roof.

00:48:08Definitely.

00:48:08Thanks, Rob.

00:48:14Now, the last time

00:48:16we caught up with

00:48:17Hampshire-based

00:48:18shepherdess

00:48:18Susie Parrish

00:48:19was back in May

00:48:21when she brought in

00:48:22her three

00:48:2211-week-old

00:48:24border collie pups.

00:48:25It's safe to say

00:48:26they won our hearts

00:48:28so we couldn't resist

00:48:29an invite

00:48:30to see how Mole,

00:48:31Flick and Sid

00:48:32were progressing

00:48:33six months on

00:48:34just as they began

00:48:36their sheepdog training

00:48:37in earnest.

00:48:47Hi, I'm Susie Parrish

00:48:49and I'm a shepherdess

00:48:50and these are my pups.

00:48:53They're my next generation

00:48:54of sheepdogs

00:48:55as my two older collies

00:48:57coming to six years old now

00:48:58so it's time to get

00:48:59the next generation

00:49:00up and running.

00:49:04So these are the three pups

00:49:05that I've kept

00:49:06from the litter of six.

00:49:07We've got Sid

00:49:08who's the boy

00:49:09and then Flick

00:49:10and Mole.

00:49:13So today I'm going to be

00:49:14training the puppies

00:49:15individually.

00:49:16If I took them out

00:49:17all three together

00:49:18it would be absolute

00:49:18carnage.

00:49:19All three pups

00:49:20have got such

00:49:20different personalities

00:49:21so Flick is really

00:49:23sort of a buzzy

00:49:25really alert

00:49:26looking at everything

00:49:27all the time

00:49:28and keen to go

00:49:29and Sid is

00:49:31a big buffoon

00:49:32he's quite often

00:49:33the one that's asleep

00:49:34and he lollops along

00:49:36he's going to be

00:49:36quite a big dog

00:49:37and he's just

00:49:37sort of growing

00:49:38into himself

00:49:39and then Mole

00:49:41is really sort of

00:49:41switched on

00:49:42she's almost like

00:49:43the teenager

00:49:44that's actually

00:49:4415 going on 30.

00:49:46She's really relaxed

00:49:48about everything

00:49:48doesn't get too excited

00:49:50concentrates on the job

00:49:51in hand.

00:49:52They're six months old now

00:49:54and this is the fifth

00:49:55or sixth time

00:49:56they've been around sheep

00:49:57so it's really early days

00:49:58and the first pup

00:50:00I'm going to train

00:50:00is Sid

00:50:01leave it

00:50:08leave it

00:50:09leave it

00:50:10leave it

00:50:11so when you're

00:50:11training young dogs

00:50:12things go wrong

00:50:13but I don't want

00:50:14to tell him off

00:50:15too much

00:50:15because he doesn't

00:50:16know what he's

00:50:17doing yet

00:50:18and I don't want

00:50:20to put him off

00:50:21working the sheep

00:50:22but it's important

00:50:23just to stay calm

00:50:25not get angry

00:50:26with the dog

00:50:27and just get him

00:50:28back on track

00:50:29working the sheep

00:50:30again

00:50:30come by

00:50:32so I'm just

00:50:34trying to teach

00:50:34Sid his voice

00:50:35commands

00:50:36so come by

00:50:38for clockwise

00:50:39for wee

00:50:41and then away

00:50:42for anti-clockwise

00:50:43Sid

00:50:44so that was a bit

00:50:49hectic

00:50:50but the main thing

00:50:52is he's really keen

00:50:53to work the sheep

00:50:54next I'm going

00:50:56to get Flick

00:50:57she's ready to go

00:50:59it's really important

00:51:01to have a very good

00:51:02bond with your dog

00:51:03and that trust

00:51:04is a two-way thing

00:51:05between the dog

00:51:06and the trainer

00:51:07and when you send

00:51:08that dog over a hill

00:51:09and it can't see a sheep

00:51:10it's trust in you

00:51:12that there are sheep

00:51:13out there

00:51:14and it'll go and find them

00:51:15and bring them back to you

00:51:16come by

00:51:18it's a tester now

00:51:19because they're running away

00:51:20come by

00:51:21come by

00:51:23so that's really good

00:51:25because the sheep

00:51:26are running away

00:51:27yet she's given them

00:51:28enough space

00:51:29and is now

00:51:30ah ah ah

00:51:31she's left two

00:51:32behind there

00:51:33that's really good though

00:51:35Mole's first training

00:51:39session was accidental

00:51:40she can only have been

00:51:42eight or nine weeks old

00:51:43because I had

00:51:44all the pups with me

00:51:45and she just left

00:51:46the rest of the pups

00:51:47came in under the fence

00:51:49and started just naturally

00:51:50flanking left and right

00:51:52behind the sheep

00:51:52with the other two older dogs

00:51:54and I knew then

00:51:56that I had something special

00:51:57so that's the command

00:52:01for away to me

00:52:02which is anti-clockwise

00:52:03and that's my come by command

00:52:09so clockwise

00:52:09around the sheep

00:52:10steady

00:52:11and walk on

00:52:13she's really my favourite one

00:52:19probably you can tell

00:52:20shouldn't have favourites

00:52:22and I just think

00:52:23where she's a lot calmer

00:52:25than the others

00:52:25she picks up the commands

00:52:26a lot quicker

00:52:27I'm sure Mole is going to make

00:52:30a really good working dog

00:52:31I can tell that already

00:52:32but my dream would be

00:52:34that I could work her

00:52:35and do some competitions

00:52:37ideally I'd love to work a brace

00:52:40which is two dogs at once

00:52:41and if I could work Mole

00:52:44and my older dog Sis

00:52:45that would be a real dream

00:52:46but it's very few dogs

00:52:48that can work together

00:52:49like that

00:52:49and it's going to be

00:52:50a lot of hard work

00:52:51thanks Susie

00:52:53you've got your hands full there

00:52:54goodness me

00:52:55so good to see

00:52:56all three thriving

00:52:57isn't it

00:52:58coming up

00:52:59the man who cornered

00:53:00the market

00:53:01in upper crust types

00:53:02but don't make the mistake

00:53:03of stereotyping him

00:53:05he's full of surprises

00:53:06Robert Bathurst

00:53:08on bringing to life

00:53:09some of our most popular

00:53:10TV and film characters

00:53:12and celebrating Jane Austen's birthday

00:53:15with some seriously fancy footwork

00:53:17Regency fencing

00:53:18the ultimate in 19th century gentleman's sport

00:53:22we'll be ready to riposte

00:53:25right after this short break

00:53:26foiled again

00:53:28sorry

00:53:39welcome back to Love Your Weekend

00:53:45coming up

00:53:46pouring pub quality pints

00:53:48in the comfort of your own home

00:53:50Marvelline Cole

00:53:51has the beer and cider on tap

00:53:53in today's Best of British

00:53:55Mini Keg Masterclass

00:53:57can't wait

00:53:58now

00:53:59this year

00:54:00marks the 250th anniversary

00:54:02of Jane Austen's birth

00:54:03an event that's

00:54:04prompted ongoing celebrations

00:54:06of her enduring legacy

00:54:08here at Manor Farm

00:54:09we like to do our bit too

00:54:11so today

00:54:12our attention turns

00:54:13to the lives

00:54:14of Regency gentlemen

00:54:16such as Mr Darcy

00:54:17and Mr Wickham

00:54:19for whom proficiency

00:54:20in fencing

00:54:21was considered

00:54:22an essential aspect

00:54:24of their education

00:54:25transporting us back in time

00:54:27it's the Bath

00:54:28Sword Club

00:54:29salute please

00:54:33on guard

00:54:37are you ready

00:54:39thanks

00:54:41for the love of

00:54:42I hope you're

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00:55:05and hold

00:55:16thank you

00:55:23that was an exciting time Andy

00:55:29thank you for doing your bit there

00:55:31I was a bit scared during that Andy

00:55:33it was amazing

00:55:35what surprised me Tim was

00:55:36it's far more pointy

00:55:38I was expecting all this kind of

00:55:41Errol Flynn slashing

00:55:42and it's really quite

00:55:44yeah we're dealing with the point weapons here Alan

00:55:47so the idea is to get the point of the weapon

00:55:49onto your opponent's target

00:55:51the slashing one is the sabre

00:55:53where we score with the edge

00:55:55as well as the point

00:55:56so there's cuts as well as thrust

00:55:58now this was a vital part of a man's literary armoury

00:56:01they used to go broad apparently

00:56:05Andy then and learn how to fence

00:56:07so was it a sort of showy thing to do

00:56:09oh yes I mean back in the regency time

00:56:12it would have been what gentlemen would have learnt

00:56:15the art of fencing

00:56:16as a status position

00:56:19yeah

00:56:19and yeah

00:56:21it would have been taught by

00:56:22fence masters from abroad who would have come over

00:56:25to England and

00:56:26caught nobility on the art of fencing

00:56:29but the duelling though was illegal wasn't it

00:56:32you weren't meant to

00:56:33because they were always done early in the morning

00:56:35sort of privately somewhere

00:56:36yeah yeah it was

00:56:38it was illegal

00:56:39and it was discouraged

00:56:41in Bath as well

00:56:42it didn't really set the tone for

00:56:45what they were trying to create in Bath

00:56:47so I mean

00:56:48why did they bother them to learn it

00:56:50if they weren't going to use it

00:56:52I think it was a

00:56:53it was so you could say that you were competent in the art of swordsmanship

00:56:57it was just a boast

00:56:58there may have been a possibility that you would use it

00:57:00yeah

00:57:00you've got tips on them then

00:57:02so that I mean that's not sharp

00:57:04oh it's a sprung

00:57:05so you can detect a hit then

00:57:08that's right

00:57:09part of the scoring equipment

00:57:10yeah

00:57:11so when you are fencing in sport

00:57:13it's Olympic sport now

00:57:14what do you have to do

00:57:16where are you allowed to hit

00:57:18anywhere on the human frame

00:57:20well

00:57:21these two

00:57:22Arthur and Paul

00:57:24it's the whole body

00:57:25oh right

00:57:26head

00:57:26and that's with the foil

00:57:28that's with the epi

00:57:29the epi

00:57:30I've got to get my terminology right

00:57:32you don't even want to

00:57:33so this is an epi

00:57:34that's right

00:57:35this is with a bent handle

00:57:36it's a guard

00:57:37covered your hand

00:57:39yeah

00:57:39whereas that's the foil

00:57:41that's the foil

00:57:42but they're about the same length

00:57:44they are the same length

00:57:45yeah

00:57:45it's wonderfully wielding

00:57:47and I love the fact that

00:57:48that bends

00:57:49because it sort of

00:57:50that fits into your hand

00:57:52there yeah

00:57:53super

00:57:54and is this business up here

00:57:56is this part of your balance

00:57:57yes

00:57:58so

00:57:58you're straight into an adult

00:58:00as you imagine

00:58:01going for the lung

00:58:02yeah

00:58:03the hand goes out

00:58:04yeah

00:58:04try not to hit me yet

00:58:06and go

00:58:07oh right

00:58:08and that hand comes down

00:58:09oh right

00:58:10so I'm up there

00:58:11and I'm doing that

00:58:12I think I've got this

00:58:14yeah

00:58:15trouble is I got to

00:58:15you've done this before

00:58:16no but then I haven't actually

00:58:18so what would you do

00:58:19if I'm coming at you like that now

00:58:20I'll take a parry

00:58:21yeah

00:58:22which will mean it would be my right of way

00:58:24oh

00:58:25your right of way

00:58:26my right of way

00:58:27and I will hopefully

00:58:29yeah

00:58:29then time my lapote

00:58:31yes

00:58:31to land onto you

00:58:33ah so you'd knock it out of the way

00:58:35and then very quickly go in

00:58:36yeah but if you wanted to avoid

00:58:38hold on to that

00:58:39if you wanted to avoid that

00:58:40yeah

00:58:41you pretend to hit him there

00:58:42yeah

00:58:42as he comes across

00:58:43you come around there

00:58:44oh

00:58:45and presumably there's a great pride in it being an Olympic sport isn't it

00:58:48there's a great elegance to it really I think

00:58:50yeah

00:58:51yeah

00:58:52and you've got

00:58:53you've got the sort of Regency

00:58:54outfit on

00:58:55yes I've been running classes for the Jane Austen Festival for the last three years

00:58:59yeah

00:59:00so the participants turn up in full costume

00:59:03so I thought I'd better do my bit

00:59:05do your bit

00:59:06as well

00:59:06it was wonderful to watch

00:59:07and terribly elegant

00:59:08I think I could probably get used to it

00:59:12I'll put that down

00:59:12I'm not safe with it really

00:59:13that's yours

00:59:14thank you

00:59:15to Tim

00:59:16to Andrew

00:59:17and the team

00:59:18from the Bath Sword Club

00:59:20oh I enjoyed that

00:59:21time to head down that garden path once more

00:59:23today

00:59:24a staple in our British countryside

00:59:26with their striped faces

00:59:27short

00:59:28powerful legs

00:59:29and sharp claws

00:59:30here's Leslie Joseph

00:59:31and her tale

00:59:32about the badger

00:59:34well Alan

00:59:37you do know how to liven up a Sunday morning

00:59:39handsome fences

00:59:40in tight white britches

00:59:41before noon

00:59:42I say

00:59:43but now we swap swords

00:59:46for snouts

00:59:47as we venture into the undergrowth

00:59:49in search of my next guest

00:59:51bring your wellies

00:59:53dear viewers

00:59:54there's more mud here

00:59:56than a Cotswold spa day

00:59:57while most of us are reaching

00:59:59for a hot cuppa

01:00:00and a thick jumper

01:00:01there's one creature out here

01:00:02rummaging around

01:00:03as if it owns the place

01:00:04the irresistibly mischievous

01:00:07European badger

01:00:08yes

01:00:09Britain's most recognisable

01:00:11monochrome mammal

01:00:12and my favourite

01:00:15stripy nocturnal rascal

01:00:16now I know what you're thinking

01:00:18aren't badgers

01:00:20shy mysterious

01:00:21rarely seen

01:00:22oh yes

01:00:23mysterious indeed

01:00:24shy

01:00:25I'm not so sure

01:00:27these delightful diggers

01:00:28have more personality

01:00:29than a panto cast

01:00:31and more underground property

01:00:32than a London developer

01:00:34but you have to stay up late

01:00:36to catch them

01:00:36like teenagers

01:00:38raiding the fridge

01:00:39after midnight

01:00:39they live

01:00:40for the nightlife

01:00:41think of them

01:00:43as the original

01:00:44club kids

01:00:45of the countryside

01:00:45black and white outfits

01:00:47glowing eyes

01:00:48mysterious habits

01:00:49probably listening

01:00:51to 80s disco

01:00:52under those hedgerows

01:00:53and here's a tender side

01:00:55you might not know

01:00:56badgers

01:00:58love to cuddle

01:00:59truly

01:01:00they sleep

01:01:01in little heaps

01:01:02in their sets

01:01:03often snoozing

01:01:04in groups

01:01:04for warmth

01:01:05and if that doesn't

01:01:06melt your heart

01:01:07I don't know

01:01:08what will

01:01:08oh there's something

01:01:09rather charming

01:01:10about them

01:01:11isn't there

01:01:11those twinkly eyes

01:01:13that endearing waddle

01:01:15that makes them

01:01:15look like they've had

01:01:16one too many brandies

01:01:17under that monochrome

01:01:19makeover

01:01:20beats a gentle

01:01:21playful heart

01:01:22bit like you Alan

01:01:24after a sherry

01:01:25anyway

01:01:26where are those

01:01:27fencers

01:01:27cooey

01:01:29I'm on my way

01:01:30thanks Leslie

01:01:33gosh

01:01:34and did you know

01:01:35badgers are extremely

01:01:36tidy housekeepers

01:01:37changing their bedding

01:01:39daily

01:01:39bet they don't do

01:01:41the ironing though

01:01:41do they

01:01:42but they do

01:01:43take great pride

01:01:43in their appearance

01:01:44grooming themselves

01:01:45and each other

01:01:46a generous spirited

01:01:48lot

01:01:48coming up

01:01:49showcasing the latest

01:01:51drinks trend

01:01:52in today's

01:01:53best of british

01:01:54fresh pub style

01:01:55pints

01:01:56anytime you like

01:01:57beer sommelier

01:01:58marverine cole

01:01:59with her pick of

01:02:00the market leading

01:02:01mini kegs

01:02:02serving beer

01:02:03and cider

01:02:04on tap

01:02:04and he was killed

01:02:07off in the first

01:02:08episode of red dwarf

01:02:09killed off in the

01:02:10first episode of

01:02:11hornblower

01:02:12many would have

01:02:13crumbled

01:02:13but not this man

01:02:15robert bathurst

01:02:16on everything from

01:02:17sci-fi to sitcom

01:02:18historical

01:02:19to hysterical

01:02:21secrets of an

01:02:22on-screen chameleon

01:02:23the bathurst way

01:02:24coming up

01:02:25right after this

01:02:25welcome back to

01:02:39love your weekend

01:02:40still ahead

01:02:41taking self-service

01:02:42to the next level

01:02:43pour your own

01:02:44pints

01:02:45marverine cole

01:02:46introduces us to

01:02:47the world of

01:02:48keg beers and

01:02:49ciders

01:02:49now it's not

01:02:51uncommon for

01:02:52actors to appear

01:02:53in a number of

01:02:53popular television

01:02:55programs

01:02:55in fact it's

01:02:56probably a

01:02:56national acting

01:02:57requirement to

01:02:58appear in two or

01:02:59more but my

01:03:00next guest has

01:03:01exceeded all

01:03:02requirements

01:03:03starring in a

01:03:04whole host of

01:03:05popular dramas

01:03:06over the years

01:03:07not least this

01:03:08one

01:03:08have you got a

01:03:10moment

01:03:10well let's get

01:03:12down to it

01:03:12shall we

01:03:13i am going to

01:03:13say a few

01:03:14words

01:03:15oh god must

01:03:16you

01:03:16yes

01:03:16no

01:03:17yes

01:03:17what's happened

01:03:18yeah

01:03:19i don't know

01:03:20no

01:03:20i can't keep up

01:03:21please just pick

01:03:23one

01:03:23okay

01:03:23what

01:03:24yes

01:03:25no

01:03:25you're missing

01:03:25the point

01:03:26who are you

01:03:27bonk a chicken

01:03:28that makes no

01:03:29sense

01:03:29sorry

01:03:29you will be

01:03:30it's all over the

01:03:31plate

01:03:31nothing is going on

01:03:32i've just been

01:03:33abducted

01:03:33five years you

01:03:34you had cold feet

01:03:36for

01:03:36yeah we did five

01:03:37years we did the

01:03:37pilot 30 years ago

01:03:39next year

01:03:39uh in 20

01:03:41and 96

01:03:41and then from 97

01:03:43for five years and

01:03:44then after 13 year gap

01:03:46it came back for

01:03:46another four series

01:03:47it was a slow burner

01:03:49originally wasn't it

01:03:50Robert

01:03:50it was a non burner

01:03:51it was quite extraordinary

01:03:53i mean we i we did the pilot

01:03:55and itv didn't rate it

01:03:57it went out

01:03:58delayed

01:03:59at sort of 11 o'clock at night

01:04:01and i saw

01:04:01opened the papers i thought

01:04:03who's writing about it

01:04:04nobody was writing about it

01:04:05and it went and then

01:04:06it got put in for an award

01:04:08and it it got the gold award

01:04:09at the mantra tv festival

01:04:11and then itv decided it was really

01:04:13rather good

01:04:13and uh

01:04:14they might put it on a bit

01:04:15earlier

01:04:16when people were up

01:04:17they gave it a series

01:04:18and uh but it was it very

01:04:20nearly went away without

01:04:21anybody noticing it

01:04:22there is a characteristic

01:04:24i mean you are a great

01:04:25accomplished and versatile

01:04:26actor

01:04:26but i always feel that

01:04:28running through you

01:04:29there's kind of thread

01:04:30of natural diffidence

01:04:32in in a lot of the

01:04:33characters that you play

01:04:35there's a sort of

01:04:36hesitancy which which

01:04:38which seems to almost be

01:04:39your stock in trade

01:04:40i mean is that conscious

01:04:42or is it just you

01:04:43or what

01:04:44it's a lie

01:04:45you're not at all diffident

01:04:47no i mean it's

01:04:48it's it's it's hopefully

01:04:50precise but in but

01:04:51but diffidence

01:04:52yes i would say i would say

01:04:55i would say it's certainly

01:04:56not diffidence in terms of

01:04:57what i care about it

01:04:58yeah

01:04:59and and and my approach to it

01:05:00um but uh yeah i mean

01:05:03that's for others to

01:05:05perceive rather than for me

01:05:07to feel

01:05:07well it is but i always think

01:05:08also it must be rather fun

01:05:09for you because you're you're

01:05:11not but playing characters

01:05:13that haven't got much

01:05:14backbone now i'm thinking

01:05:16of one in particular and

01:05:17it's one which which was

01:05:18very much to the fore

01:05:19because frankly robert you

01:05:21let down lady edith

01:05:22sir anthony stran i mean

01:05:24look at this honestly

01:05:25sir anthony stran here

01:05:26meeting his match with

01:05:27maggie smith

01:05:28this is very good of you

01:05:31uh nonsense you are on

01:05:32the way i do wish you'd

01:05:34let me sit in the front

01:05:35no no i prefer it i've

01:05:36ridden in the front seat

01:05:37many times

01:05:38aren't you a wild thing

01:05:40oh it's quite safe

01:05:41there's never been a

01:05:42safer method of travel

01:05:43or a faster one

01:05:45edith's a speed fiend

01:05:47she likes to go at a

01:05:48terrific lick

01:05:48do you think you'll be

01:05:50able to keep up with her

01:05:51i'll try

01:05:52what's this place like

01:05:54errey home is it

01:05:56do you know it

01:05:57well a little my late

01:05:58husband kept the shooting

01:05:59there and we sometimes had

01:06:01luncheon in the house

01:06:02is it nice

01:06:03nice enough as a retreat

01:06:06from the world i wouldn't

01:06:08have thought it suited to

01:06:09much else

01:06:10the queen of the acerbic

01:06:15one-liners the late maggie

01:06:16smith there i mean it

01:06:18seems like playing a

01:06:18verbal game of tennis

01:06:19doesn't it really with

01:06:20her when i mean she she

01:06:22she was that character

01:06:24wasn't she i mean that

01:06:25was maggie smith in a way

01:06:25well she's really good i

01:06:27mean really sharp and and

01:06:28and everybody says oh

01:06:29she's sorry she's so um

01:06:31tough or whatever like

01:06:33that but she's she's

01:06:34right i mean she's right

01:06:35she knew her stuff

01:06:35i met her a few times

01:06:36as herself which

01:06:37delightful person

01:06:39absolutely delightful

01:06:40but when she envelopes

01:06:42embodies a character

01:06:43like that i mean you you

01:06:45play against it as your

01:06:46peril don't you really

01:06:48well you have to yeah

01:06:49yeah i mean you have to

01:06:50not worry about that

01:06:51i mean she's i mean she's

01:06:53uh but that sort of

01:06:55carapace that she put on

01:06:56with her characters

01:06:57um but she's an actor

01:06:58you know i've got all

01:06:59actors are sort of

01:06:59they're they're they're

01:07:00they're grafters you

01:07:01know you can't be

01:07:02surprised when we

01:07:02believe you in the

01:07:04character you're playing

01:07:05you see can you

01:07:06yeah i really enjoyed

01:07:08um being with her and

01:07:09it was really good

01:07:09and playing with

01:07:11laura carmichael too

01:07:12she's excellent really

01:07:13good had a lovely

01:07:14lovely touch to it

01:07:15and and the fact that

01:07:16old anthony strallen

01:07:17um ditched her at the

01:07:18altar meant that laura

01:07:19could go off and do

01:07:20all sorts of things for

01:07:21them for another four or

01:07:22five series

01:07:22yeah what was the

01:07:23reaction of the uh

01:07:24congregation in the

01:07:25church then when you

01:07:26ditched her all the

01:07:27actors well all the

01:07:27actors i mean they had

01:07:28nothing to do but uh

01:07:29that they they were they

01:07:31they passed the time by by

01:07:32when i had to walk down

01:07:33the aisle um having done

01:07:36the deed and uh and

01:07:37walked out in shame

01:07:38um jim carter led the

01:07:40booing

01:07:41the whole congregation

01:07:43and the sort of low

01:07:44rumble of boo

01:07:45serve you right

01:07:48yeah quite exactly

01:07:49but we'd invested a lot

01:07:51in you you know

01:07:51yeah yeah

01:07:53um going to something

01:07:55completely different and

01:07:56something true to life

01:07:57um the hack which we've

01:08:00seen you in recently

01:08:00playing a character who

01:08:02really did exist max

01:08:04clifford an interesting

01:08:05man in the hack

01:08:06they've redacted

01:08:15in particular anything

01:08:16which might identify the

01:08:17news of the world

01:08:18journalists who might

01:08:19have commissioned the

01:08:20hacking i'm going back to

01:08:21court we'll get more

01:08:23question when they

01:08:24disclosed gordon taylor's

01:08:25paperwork did they redact

01:08:26anything no why start

01:08:28now because it implicates

01:08:30them so did gordon taylor

01:08:31they're they're working

01:08:34out how to make

01:08:35themselves impenetrable

01:08:36they're watching us

01:08:39you do know what you're

01:08:41taking on do you know

01:08:42who you're talking to

01:08:43i believe rebecca brooks

01:08:45is your friend didn't you

01:08:47help her when she was

01:08:48accused of assault i help

01:08:49her but not in that case

01:08:50i have my loyalties and i

01:08:53have beliefs i mean i know

01:08:55andy coulson for him

01:08:57sitting next to the prime

01:08:58minister that's wrong in

01:09:00every way all the same

01:09:02i spent my entire life

01:09:04inside that machine i know

01:09:06what their guns smell like

01:09:08you playing max clifford

01:09:12in that did you ever meet

01:09:13him never luckily i mean

01:09:16that was about the whole

01:09:18hacking and what he knew

01:09:20about the organization one

01:09:22of the organizations of many

01:09:23who were doing the hacking

01:09:24and also what he was prepared

01:09:26to do to what he took in

01:09:29order not to blow the gaff

01:09:30on it what did you make of

01:09:32him having played him well

01:09:34i mean we've we found out

01:09:35all sorts of things

01:09:36subsequently and that's what

01:09:37he went to prison for and and

01:09:38and that was nothing to do

01:09:40with in this show um i he had

01:09:42a a very efficient way of of

01:09:45getting a story into a

01:09:46newspaper which involved

01:09:47victimizing the person who

01:09:49needed the publicity uh it was

01:09:51called the max clifford

01:09:52two-step uh so emails get

01:09:53stolen yeah you supply them and

01:09:56you've and somebody else

01:09:57produces them therefore you've

01:09:58got to go on on shows like uh

01:10:00you know chat shows and things

01:10:01like that to uh to to clear your

01:10:02name it's a it was a very clever

01:10:04way of of of and he he did it

01:10:07very successfully i did interview

01:10:08him once did you right and and

01:10:10did it what did he exude you can

01:10:14say that now um menace menace yes

01:10:18he traded in menace absolutely i mean

01:10:20character assassination was his trade yes

01:10:22yeah oh on to brighter things let's

01:10:26have gone to dad's army that's a

01:10:28lovely segue because did you notice

01:10:30that was almost effortless and so

01:10:33from max clifford to dad's army

01:10:34because they they found some scripts

01:10:38of tapes that have been lost yeah

01:10:39and when i was talking about

01:10:41diffidence earlier you see maybe this

01:10:43character was in the back of my mind

01:10:44because in the lost tapes when they

01:10:46were recreated you played sergeant

01:10:48wilson no we need some with

01:10:51integrity well there's always godfrey

01:10:53he's as honest as the day is long ah

01:10:54but could he lead men no not from the

01:10:57front sir no he'd never keep up with

01:10:58it then there's the uh bladder trouble

01:11:01of course yes well at least we'd always

01:11:03know where to find him wouldn't be

01:11:04that's the man for our money fraser oh

01:11:10no no no sir not fraser no no if

01:11:12there's ever any trouble any any

01:11:14grumbling it always comes from him

01:11:15well might it not be a case of the

01:11:17poacher turned gamekeeper eh he was a

01:11:20jack tower wasn't he i believe he was

01:11:21sir yes one thing you can say about the

01:11:23boys in bloom they stand fast in the face

01:11:25of the enemy yes well there's nowhere to

01:11:27run to on a boat is there they were so

01:11:31finely crafted those scripts i remember

01:11:34talking about things i'm not talking

01:11:35about me we're talking about you i did go

01:11:37when i was a student at kew gardens i

01:11:39went to a recording of a dad's army at

01:11:42shepherd's bush uh wonderful to be there

01:11:44and they all came on and were introduced to

01:11:46the audience and the atmosphere in the

01:11:48studio is superb and you you recreate that

01:11:50exact atmosphere there but john lemes

01:11:53you're a fascinating character we'll talk

01:11:55about him as a man in a minute with

01:11:57another series that you did but playing

01:11:59someone who's played a role and trying to

01:12:02do it justice and something was so popular

01:12:04must have been a bit of a challenge

01:12:05it was absolutely i mean the reason for

01:12:07doing it was that these these videotapes

01:12:10had been wiped they put panorama over on

01:12:12them on something like that in the in the

01:12:13late 60s because they know and assume

01:12:15they were going to be repeated so they

01:12:17were just big chunks of videotape so so

01:12:20yeah that was the only reason for doing

01:12:22it there was no point in doing shows that

01:12:24had already available with the real

01:12:27people doing it and it was done in the

01:12:29spirit of we were understudies i mean

01:12:30we were we're never going to say we are

01:12:32them or we are better than them or we are

01:12:34in any way a match for them we are going

01:12:35to just present these scripts in film form

01:12:38which is not available anymore so that was

01:12:40playing sergeant wilson as played by john

01:12:42the measurer here you are playing john

01:12:44the measurer in hattie

01:12:57so there's never a dull moment with

01:13:00hattie no there isn't really i would

01:13:03though i i would like to say that i'm

01:13:08i'm eternally grateful for the way she

01:13:10runs the home

01:13:12looks after the children

01:13:16looks after me

01:13:18home comes first i think i'm right in

01:13:20saying

01:13:24but for someone who's so very busy all the

01:13:27time and so very much in the public eye all

01:13:31the time to do these things is very

01:13:34difficult

01:13:35and a jolly neat trick

01:13:39thank you john

01:13:42the measurer

01:13:43with ruth jones there in hattie that

01:13:58seemed perfectly summing up the unusual

01:14:01relationship they had a menage a trois in

01:14:04effect at one particular time but it's

01:14:07actually quite a it's a terribly emotive

01:14:10and affecting story the marriage that

01:14:13they had and the word urbane could have

01:14:15been invented couldn't it for john the

01:14:17measure i mean but playing somebody as

01:14:21themselves there's a responsibility

01:14:22there on an act as part

01:14:23huge responsibility because in any sort

01:14:25of biopic you're dealing with a

01:14:28perception of the truth and the people

01:14:29who were alive at the time might have

01:14:31seen that totally differently and the

01:14:34aiden turner character the lover who

01:14:37moved into the house and john the

01:14:39measure it didn't leave the house he

01:14:40just moved into the spare room and

01:14:41affecting and but the son of the of

01:14:47the john aiden turner character was at

01:14:50the BAFTA screening and he was terribly

01:14:51upset i mean he was terribly upset how

01:14:53his father was portrayed now i mean how

01:14:56he's portrayed is is the license of the

01:15:00of the show and but but how he perceived

01:15:03it was very different so you are

01:15:05trading on on on on on people's

01:15:07perception there but it's still a story

01:15:10worth telling because it was an

01:15:11extraordinary story how did you end up

01:15:13feeling about john the measure do you

01:15:15admire him more did you sort of

01:15:17understand was understood his foibles

01:15:18more how what's your sort of

01:15:21relationship with him now having played

01:15:22in both in dad's army and does

01:15:24himself well i i always admired him as a

01:15:27performer i mean he's he always turns in a

01:15:29really good run i mean if i'm alright

01:15:30jack or or in anything this was always

01:15:32and he was absolutely absolutely one of

01:15:35these people who appeared you mentioned

01:15:36diffidence before he appeared to be

01:15:38different but he was rock solid he knew

01:15:40what he was doing yeah you know like a

01:15:41load of those people of that

01:15:43generation they they knew their

01:15:44business really well but also he he was

01:15:47somebody who was complicated i mean i

01:15:49i've been playing jeffrey bernard and

01:15:50and in the coaching horses pub itself and

01:15:53then john the measure gets mentioned in

01:15:54that so lamaze used to have lost

01:15:56weekends in soho and and he and he was a

01:15:59complicated figure yeah you are never

01:16:02far from the stage you're about to go

01:16:04into the rivals with patricia hodge

01:16:06the sheridan play playing playing

01:16:09anthony absolute so it's set in 1780 i

01:16:15think and tom littler who's who runs the

01:16:17orange tree theatre has set it in the

01:16:20time 1920s so i'm looking forward to

01:16:21seeing how how that works the orange

01:16:23tree is hugely intimate i mean that's

01:16:24really close it's very it's in the round

01:16:27it's in it's intimate and and he does

01:16:30classics with big casts i don't know how

01:16:31he does it and then we're going on tour

01:16:33after that we're going to cambridge and

01:16:34bath because you started in cambridge

01:16:36footlights with the likes of fry laurie

01:16:38and emma thompson i mean yeah astonishing

01:16:40astonishing starts to it yes i mean i

01:16:43knew i didn't want to carry on doing

01:16:44review i knew i wanted to do what i'm

01:16:45doing at the moment which is you know

01:16:47plays and and everything like that so so

01:16:49comedy review but so but we did get

01:16:50fantastic opportunities doing doing doing

01:16:53doing the the show and and taking it

01:16:55around the world and so forth and doing

01:16:57televisions it's a good start and it's

01:17:00not yet finished

01:17:00love it so nice you'd so will you mind

01:17:04saying my name is bathhurst because you've

01:17:06got no problems with me from yorkshire

01:17:08there's no way i'm ever going to say

01:17:09bathhurst you're quite safe thank you

01:17:11robert thanks i thought you now then a

01:17:13chance to soak up some stunning scenery

01:17:16set to some equally stunning music it's

01:17:18time for today's ode to joy

01:17:29so

01:17:33so

01:21:15So let's dive in then with our first one.

01:21:18Very, very pale.

01:21:20It is small beer.

01:21:21It is 2.5%.

01:21:23It is a pale ale.

01:21:25So you give it a little swirl always with a beer.

01:21:27It's got a great nose on it.

01:21:29And you should get, yeah, a terrific nose, Alan.

01:21:32I know you have a nose for a good beer.

01:21:35Lovely, a little bit of citrus and grassiness.

01:21:37Oh, that's nice.

01:21:38Yeah.

01:21:38Robert, good one.

01:21:40It's what they call small beer, isn't it?

01:21:42Yeah, but it's gorgeous.

01:21:43It is.

01:21:43It's good and very light.

01:21:45Prue, the queen of the taste buds.

01:21:46What do we think to that?

01:21:47I like this one.

01:21:49I'm actually a great fan of low-alcohol beer anyway.

01:21:52Yeah.

01:21:53And recently they've been so much better.

01:21:55Oh, they have.

01:21:56They used to be already, didn't they?

01:21:58And I love this one.

01:21:59It's quite grapefruity, but I like it.

01:22:01It is beautiful.

01:22:02And you could think about this as an aperitif beer.

01:22:06Because it's so low in alcohol, 2.5%,

01:22:08you could maybe have this with a little starter.

01:22:11Might be salmon on some rye bread, a little bit of basil.

01:22:14Olive oil.

01:22:15Just something to get the party started.

01:22:18So this is a small beer brew company.

01:22:20Absolutely.

01:22:21So they're in Bermondsey.

01:22:23They're very much about a sustainability and a social cause.

01:22:26So they're London's first B Corp certified brewery.

01:22:32So they're very proud of that.

01:22:34Like that one.

01:22:34It's a joy.

01:22:35Absolutely.

01:22:35Next up.

01:22:36Next we are going to Carveille Lager.

01:22:41We are going to Ripon in North Yorkshire.

01:22:44What a lovely county.

01:22:46This is divine.

01:22:48Pop your nose in there.

01:22:49That's quite different, isn't it?

01:22:51Again, there is a beautiful aroma.

01:22:54This is a pilsner made by the Hambleton Brewery.

01:22:58That's gorgeous.

01:22:59It is delicious.

01:22:59It's so creamy.

01:23:01Yes, it is.

01:23:01Have a taste and see whether you get that creamy.

01:23:03The other is, the first one, and it's often a nice one, it's sharp, because the first one was quite sharp.

01:23:07This is rounder, but not too sweet.

01:23:12It's a lovely, rich flavour.

01:23:14Prue?

01:23:14Yeah.

01:23:14It is delicious, isn't it?

01:23:16It's brilliant that a British brewery is making this traditional European beer.

01:23:22Robert, how does that compare for you with the first one?

01:23:25Well, it is.

01:23:25You're absolutely right.

01:23:26It's smoother.

01:23:27Yeah.

01:23:27I'm really not a beer aficionated, but I have been to Czeski Krumlov in the Czech Republic, where they make a lot of the pilsners.

01:23:33Don't they?

01:23:34But it is, yes, it is.

01:23:37It's less sharp.

01:23:38I absolutely adore a good pilsner with pork belly.

01:23:43The creaminess in this beer then will really cut through the fattiness that you get from the pork belly, and it's my favourite match.

01:23:51So, Prue, first one or second one, your preference there?

01:23:55Do you know, I think if I was having it with food, I'd have the second one, but if I was just wanting a beer...

01:24:00Oh, the first one.

01:24:01Yeah.

01:24:02With that chance.

01:24:02Great.

01:24:03Well, two out of two so far, Marbury.

01:24:06Wonderful.

01:24:06Let's move on then to, this is the Scarecrow Ruby Ale by Vale Brewery.

01:24:13So, you can see that lovely ruby-ish colour in the beer as well.

01:24:17Lots of crystal malt in here, which adds a little bit of a sweetness.

01:24:21So, when you pop your nose in, you might get almost a caramelly aroma to it, which is contributed to by those, the malts.

01:24:30Oh, gosh.

01:24:33That's quite distinct, there.

01:24:35What do you think of the bitterness level on this one for you?

01:24:38It's not too much.

01:24:40I like that.

01:24:41It's gentle, isn't it?

01:24:42It's a bit plummy, actually.

01:24:43It's got a nose with, like, sort of sweet sherry on it.

01:24:45Yes, yeah.

01:24:46Does that want to appeal to you?

01:24:47I wouldn't drink much of it, I don't think.

01:24:51I would certainly.

01:24:52Yeah, it's not a sort of thirst quencher, is it?

01:24:54It's a sipper, I think.

01:24:55It's a sipper, but it's also great to go with maybe hot dogs or burgers, you know, to offer.

01:25:01It needs a rich meat, really, doesn't it?

01:25:03It needs a rich meat, really.

01:25:04It has to accompany something.

01:25:06Yeah.

01:25:06So this is 4.5%.

01:25:08So again, a nice sessiony, not too bad, a couple of those and you won't feel like you're...

01:25:13A couple of those and you won't feel anything.

01:25:16A couple more you won't feel anything.

01:25:17Oh, we're on to cider now.

01:25:18Alan, you're so naughty.

01:25:20I'm sorry.

01:25:21A little bit, though.

01:25:22So water if you want and also a little bit of crackers because we're going to a sweeter taste here.

01:25:28So you do want to kind of delineate between the beer and the cider.

01:25:31So on to cider.

01:25:32We are to the Orchards of Crediton in Devon now, Sanford Orchards.

01:25:38All of the apple varieties that they choose from, over 200 varieties, come from within a 30-mile radius of their presses, which is incredible.

01:25:48Oh, Alan, you're in love.

01:25:50That's lovely.

01:25:51It's very, very apple.

01:25:53Beautiful.

01:25:53Unlike many ciders, it leaves the enamel on your teeth.

01:25:56Yeah.

01:25:58And it's also the most beautiful colour.

01:26:01It is divine, isn't it?

01:26:02It's ambo, isn't it?

01:26:03The reason it's called Devon Red as well, it's a kind of a nod to the soil that the cider apples are grown on on the farms nearby.

01:26:13That's a real hit.

01:26:14And actually, Barney Butterfield.

01:26:17Give over.

01:26:18That's his name.

01:26:19It's a great name, isn't it?

01:26:20I don't believe it.

01:26:21It sounds like a firm of solicitors.

01:26:22Barney Butterfield and Bathurst.

01:26:24Don't you think?

01:26:25It could be.

01:26:26Go to business.

01:26:26Barney really prides himself on saying that, you know, that it is really important to get the apples from the local area.

01:26:37Yeah.

01:26:37And he actually suggests a creamy mussels dish, Prue.

01:26:41I don't know if you would advocate for this.

01:26:43Lots of double cream.

01:26:45And lots of beautiful live mussels.

01:26:47And he says that makes a delicious dish with lots of Devon Red in it as well.

01:26:52I think that gets thumbs up from all of us, isn't it?

01:26:54That's absolutely delicious.

01:26:55Last one then, Marvarene.

01:26:57That's a slightly chardy bit.

01:26:58The last one.

01:26:58Now, be careful, everyone.

01:27:00Because this does jump up a little bit in the strength.

01:27:04So this is Black Fox from Dunkerton's.

01:27:06They started out in Herefordshire.

01:27:08And their presses are in...

01:27:09I'm cleansing my palate before I tackle the other one.

01:27:11You sort of...

01:27:12It's a good job.

01:27:13I like the way you're following the rules.

01:27:15I'm following the rules.

01:27:16I'm doing some tells.

01:27:1814 varieties of apples in Dunkerton's Black Fox.

01:27:22I've got to read you some of these names.

01:27:24Brown Snout, Fox Whelp, Kingston Black and Dabinette are some of the apples in here.

01:27:31My friend Jane, who is a pomelier, I hope.

01:27:35That's a nice name for it.

01:27:36She said these two are magnificent choices.

01:27:39So I feel vindicated.

01:27:40This is quite delicious.

01:27:42But I wouldn't imagine that it was going to be as strong as you're telling me it is.

01:27:46Because it's got lots of complexity to it.

01:27:50Absolutely.

01:27:51And I think there's a little earthiness to this, as well as a sweetness.

01:27:54Very distinct from the Samford orchards that this Devon read.

01:27:58And in terms of what it could go with, they suggest a nice ploughman's lunch.

01:28:05Oh, yes.

01:28:06Or a hearty beef stew.

01:28:07Or a pork pie.

01:28:08Or a...

01:28:10Isn't it interesting?

01:28:10Everything goes with a pork pie.

01:28:13It does indeed.

01:28:14For me, it does.

01:28:16That's it for today's show.

01:28:17This is a sophisticated palate, you see.

01:28:19Thanks to all my guests.

01:28:21To Prue, saying pork pie in front of Prue, Leith, Robert and of course Marbury.

01:28:25Join me next week for some more countryside capers.

01:28:28But until then, in the words of the late, great cinematic movie producer Sam Goldwyn,

01:28:34from success you get a lot of things, but not that great inside thing that love brings you.

01:28:41Or a nice glass of cider.

01:28:44Cheers, all.

01:28:45Cheers.

01:28:46Cheers.

01:29:08Cheers.

01:29:10Cheers.

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