00:00Would this and some of these other projects have landed different in a different political climate?
00:08Had Hillary Clinton been our president, would it be landing and having the same impact?
00:11I mean, feud is similarly...
00:13Yeah, I remember Ryan saying that, you know, I mean, we started shooting September before the election.
00:22And thinking, Ryan said he was thinking, you know, well, we'll make this piece about misogyny.
00:31We'll make this piece about sexism, ageism, all of this.
00:35But come, you know, the beginning of the year, it might just be ironic.
00:41But of course, no, we took a different turn.
00:46And I think it's more relevant now than it could have possibly been, you know, at any other time.
00:52Well, I don't want your help. You've always been overrated.
00:56I guess that explains my 11 Oscar nominations.
00:58The Academy doesn't reward you for your talent, for Christ's sakes, Betty.
01:03They reward you because they see how hard you sweat.
01:07They don't see the character. They see the acting.
01:09And they don't see you at all because of all your glamour makeup.
01:13Well, let me give you a tip.
01:15The answer to feeling unattractive isn't to make yourself even uglier.
01:21I don't think in this political climate that we're in that we've ever seen this much misogyny, this much sexism.
01:31And I think, you know, the fact that we have this story that's set in a particular period,
01:38but obviously Hollywood in the 1960s is just a microcosm of, like, this greater atmosphere that we are all living through now.
01:53Mm-hmm.
01:53I know from saying to you, Ryan pretty much was a trailblazer for this as much as, you know, he sent me a text after he saw Big Little Lies.
02:06And I was like, Ryan, you helped create what's happening now.
02:09I mean, he is literally creating roles for women, about women.
02:14And that is his passion.
02:16And I mean, the thing is, you know, what makes Ryan, I think, extremely unique is, and I think he's done this even more so than other women leaders in the industry.
02:28He has really made a huge effort with his half foundation that everything, every writer, every director, every crew member, everybody, it has to be half and half.
02:43So, you know, the distortion and the contradictions and all of that, that became the basis for where I jumped in with this character.
02:59And the fact that she struggled her whole life to rid herself of Lucille LeSueur, created Joan Crawford at great expense, learned to walk, to gesture, to talk, to act as a barrier to who she was.
03:20Sure.
03:20And that, to me, became the emotional core of the character.
03:25And everything that she did radiated from that.
03:28In playing Crawford, and I know Susan in playing Davis, the idea that these women, by their mid-50s, were done.
03:40The industry was finished with them.
03:44And I think to a certain degree, that still is the case.
03:50And I think what's happened in the world of television, television has kind of stepped into that void that's left when your film career begins to really thin out.
04:02That's always the amazing thing about being an actor, isn't it, is that your body doesn't understand.
04:13Yes.
04:14That it's make-believe.
04:15Yes.
04:15That this is just so that everything is internalized in that way, that rage, that sorrow, grief, whatever.
04:23I mean, it really is.
04:25It seeps into the marrow of your bones.
04:27And every molecule is actually believing that this is happening.
04:32And no matter what the mind is telling it, it's, yeah, everything is internalized.
04:38It's the residue of all these emotions that you've been dealing with for the last couple of days, months, years.
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