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'Won’t You Be My Neighbor?' Is Not a Mr. Rogers Nostalgia Piece, Says Director Morgan Neville | Documentary Roundtable
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7 weeks ago
Neville also directed this year's documentary, 'They’ll Love Me When I’m Dead,' centered on the final 15 years of Orson Welles' life.
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00:00
I hate nostalgia.
00:05
You know, it's the fast food of emotions.
00:09
I mean, because the thing about nostalgia is, I mean, nostalgia literally means going home.
00:13
I mean, it's inherently a regressive idea that doesn't ask much from an audience.
00:17
And I felt like this film was inherently a progressive idea.
00:20
Not how do we go back, but how do I get Fred Rogers into 2018?
00:24
Who's a better advocate for these kinds of crucial issues we have in our culture right now
00:28
about civility and neighborliness and kindness?
00:31
Fred Rogers was kind of the closest thing I could come up with
00:34
and was just trying to amplify that message.
00:37
I wondered, are there aspects of the film that came out differently
00:41
because of the moment we're living in right now?
00:44
Sure. I mean, without a doubt.
00:47
It changes the perspective on everything.
00:50
I mean, Mr. Rogers talks about bullying in your film.
00:53
Sure, and building a wall, the land of make-believe, you know, all these things.
00:56
The issues that we're dealing with right now in our culture have existed for a long time.
01:01
I did a film called Best of Enemies about these debates between Gore Vidal and William Buckley,
01:04
which actually deals with all the same issues of TV.
01:07
TV is a place to either make conversation and civility better or worse.
01:13
There are issues I care about, so I keep coming back to them in different films in different ways.
01:17
And if that was a cautionary tale, Won't You Be My Neighbor is, you know, a hopeful tale.
01:22
We have these conversations as filmmakers about, are we preaching to the converted?
01:26
Are we just talking to each other?
01:27
And I felt like it was this rare opportunity to make a film that would play for people who I didn't agree with.
01:33
And it's done that.
01:34
And if that's the thing that's actually given me the most optimism,
01:38
there are people who I don't agree with politically who have loved the film,
01:42
and maybe in that way we can have some common ground we can build upon.
01:52
I mean, you were born a couple of years before the show started.
01:55
Did you grow up watching him?
01:56
I was born six months before the show started,
01:59
and I was like Gen 1 Mr. Rogers fanatic.
02:02
And my relationship with him predates my memory.
02:05
And making the film, it really, it took me back to revisit part of myself that I hadn't thought about in a really, really long time.
02:12
Making the film was like 10 years worth of therapy rolled into one production.
02:15
You know, it was very cost efficient in that way.
02:17
And I honestly had no idea if anybody else cared.
02:20
I mean, I had a number of people tell me when I was making the film,
02:23
they're like, Mr. Rogers, really?
02:25
You know, good luck with that.
02:26
You know?
02:27
And it turns out a lot of people were touched in a similar way.
02:31
Mrs. Rogers, Joanne, who's an amazing woman,
02:35
when I explained to her the film I wanted to make,
02:38
I said, I want to make a film about his ideas, not about his biography.
02:42
And she said, well, that sounds like a good thing,
02:44
because Fred always said if anybody made a film out of his life,
02:46
it'd be the most boring film ever.
02:48
And I said, well, I don't necessarily agree with that.
02:50
But when she gave me her blessing, because she had to give me complete control over the film,
02:55
she said, don't make him into a saint.
02:57
And I can't think of anything a filmmaker wants to hear more from The Guardian.
03:02
And I think part of that is to understand that he was human,
03:05
because everybody in the world had treated him as this two-dimensional character.
03:09
And to treat him as saintly means that you don't appreciate the hard work he had to do to actually do these things.
03:16
And it also doesn't ask us as an audience to have to live up to it.
03:20
I felt like with that blessing, you know, it was this chance to really get into the human struggle that he dealt with.
03:33
When I started making documentaries, there was nothing cool about documentaries.
03:37
I mean, the only reason to make them was because you loved them.
03:39
And I did.
03:40
And I remember five years ago doing this round table.
03:44
And there was debate at the table of people wanting to get rid of the word documentary because it wasn't cool enough.
03:50
I mean, what a difference five years makes.
03:52
And I think part of it is the filmmaking's getting better and better.
03:56
But also, we're making films that other people aren't making.
03:59
Kind of adult films that are asking real questions, that are engaging with the real world.
04:04
And it's just scratching something that I think an audience is dying for in this day and age.
04:09
What was the biggest influence growing up that may have shaped your point of view as a filmmaker?
04:14
I mean, I started my career as a journalist.
04:16
And I was definitely under the sway of new journalism.
04:18
So my heroes were really, like, Joan Didion was a major hero for me.
04:22
But people who were talking about non-fiction issues, but with kind of a fiction way of storytelling and articulation.
04:29
And that's something that I was trying to do as a young man and that I'm still doing in documentary and I think we're all doing.
04:35
What's the first thing you do when you wrap a film?
04:37
You know, a documentary doesn't feel wrapped in the same way it's, like, on a scripted film.
04:42
You know, that it feels like it's not really wrapped until you screen it for an audience.
04:46
And at that moment, it's not your film anymore. It's their film.
04:49
So that's the experience that I had on this film and that I think we all have.
04:53
It's like, that's the moment you can celebrate.
04:56
Till then, you're just holding your breath.
04:59
I'll see you next time.
05:01
I'll see you next time.
05:02
I'll see you next time.
05:03
Bye.
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