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00:00Chicago's the Windy City not because it's windy it's because our politicians are full of hot
00:13wind the report from the University of Illinois claims Chicago is the most corrupt city in the
00:22United States it's based on data from the Justice Department every year you're hearing of a corruption
00:27scandal or a trial of somebody we've had governors who've been indicted and convicted in every town
00:36there's probably someone Candace Clark is very interesting are you sorry for crimes you've
00:50committed you don't know I committed a crime Dorothy Candace was doing great things she was
00:55clearly focused on helping women and girls her whole life was dedicated to it it's almost like
01:01she still has a hold on my life police finally arrested Candace Clark when I saw this I thought
01:13wow this is some serious ball it's almost like the George Santos before George Santos
01:25so
01:31so
01:35My name is Aaron and I am representing the State of Illinois Special Services Department.
02:02I'm here today to speak to you about additional changes the Director of Investigations will be implementing today.
02:09I'd like to welcome all of you to the swearing in ceremony of the new Director of Special Investigations, Candace Clark.
02:16When I first learned of Candace Clark, she had just been sworn in as the Director of Special Investigations.
02:22I, Candace Clark.
02:24I, Candace Clark.
02:26Do solemnly affirm.
02:28Do solemnly affirm.
02:29That I will support the Constitution.
02:32That I will support the Constitution.
02:35I remember just, there were several speeches.
02:38One from, I believe, a sorority that she was in.
02:42There was a religious community there.
02:44Loving and gracious have one bottle.
02:46I have a short little blurb.
02:48I represent the Special Services Division.
02:51You know, I'm proud to announce Candace Clark as our new Director of Special Investigations.
02:56I would like to acknowledge the well wishes from the Illinois ATF Department, Forensic Services,
03:01the Illinois State Police, and the Illinois State's Attorney Office.
03:05Candace, these are just a few who have reached out to welcome you into office but cannot be present today.
03:10I felt really great about where things were heading and my career was on the up and up.
03:19So we played this event for Director Candace Clark at the University of Illinois.
03:23And she did walk over by us, and she expressed gratitude.
03:26She seemed humble, and she seemed honored to be there, and she seemed grateful that everyone was here for her.
03:32I appreciate everyone for coming out, and I appreciate people wanting the same things that I'm wanting
03:41and looking for justice the same way that I'm looking for justice.
03:44So it was nice.
03:45It was a nice feeling.
03:46She seemed like a warm, caring individual, and I think, well, whatever you've been asked to do,
03:50hopefully you've got a good heart here, and you're going to do a good job,
03:53and you're going to affect people's lives positively.
03:56Candace Clark is the first African-American woman to hold the Director of Special Investigations position
04:02in the state of Illinois.
04:05She's the Director of Special Investigations in the state of Illinois.
04:09They would be reporting directly to the Illinois State Police,
04:12working collaboratively with them, and obviously gaining people's trust.
04:18I am working on a case of Elias Diaz.
04:21Elias Diaz was arrested in 2009 for a murder that he did not commit, and we are trying to overturn it at this time.
04:36It was really exciting to see the first black woman in this position, and to see how far she had gone in order to get into that position.
04:45I thought it was really cool to be witness to that and be a participant in that.
04:52A notion of inclusion has become a big part of the political identity in Chicago.
04:56We've seen people who were not included now be included.
05:02So to see an African-American woman engage in this meaningful role has made perfect sense.
05:08When I wanted to get paid for setting up the event and filming it and speaking at the event, I contacted Candace Clark's assistant, Paulette Robinson.
05:23My contract, I thought, was going to be between my office and Jamie and her office.
05:30But she said, no.
05:31She said, you're going to deal directly with the office of Director Clark, and she has an assistant named Paulette.
05:38And Paulette will reach out to you. We'll get a contract to her and all that.
05:41Well, this sounds good.
05:42When you're getting paid for such an event, you don't really question too much at the beginning.
05:49You just assume that everything is okay and you don't need to be worried about any of the other stuff because it's being taken care of.
05:58I was emailing her, thanks so much for everything. Just curious on, you know, when I'll get paid for this event.
06:07Do you have the details for the next event?
06:10She always talked about future events, and if that's the case, I definitely want to be involved in those.
06:16So it's balancing that between wanting payment and being frustrated about it, but also like, yeah, I would love to work more.
06:28She said, ah, it's the government shutdown or what have you, but it is being processed.
06:40So 2019 was a terrible time to do business in Illinois.
06:48The average payment delay for anyone doing business with the state of Illinois was 210 business days.
06:57So to see someone like Candace Clark saying, we'll pay you, it'll just take some time.
07:06Not unusual at all.
07:09She was a public servant that cares about others.
07:14She wanted to bring people together and wanted to fight for justice.
07:20Candace Clark was believable and came off as authentic and empathetic.
07:26She had all of these qualities that you think a politician should have, but she didn't have the honesty, right?
07:33You want your politicians to be honest and people that you can trust.
07:36Candace Clark is a corrupt politician.
07:45You're here because you were accused of stealing $65,000 to $70,000 from Darlene Simmons?
07:52What?
07:53All of this started a long time ago.
07:58She was my best friend.
08:03Who is she now?
08:05She's a monster.
08:08I just want to let you all know there's a new face, a new face to the NAACP, Candace Dixon.
08:25All right.
08:26All right.
08:27All right.
08:28All right.
08:29So Candace, take your time.
08:32You know, I don't know.
08:33Start.
08:34Take your time.
08:35Take your time.
08:36From what I know now, she would be an excellent politician.
08:41I trusted Candace.
08:43I did.
08:46This girl robbed me, like she robbed me big time.
08:49Back then, we were two peas in a pot.
08:56If you saw her, you saw me.
09:00And if you saw me, you saw Candace.
09:05Anytime that we had free time, we would listen to some of our favorite jams, talking about
09:09boys and who looks good.
09:12Just life and family.
09:15It was definitely fun.
09:18Especially talking about the boys.
09:21You are truly one of my closest friends.
09:28I want to thank you for supporting me all the time.
09:31I want to thank you for laughing with me in the middle of the night.
09:36I want to thank you for helping me get through a lot of hard times.
09:40So, at the brunch, I found out that I was pregnant.
09:51I was nervous, of course.
09:53Who wouldn't be at that age?
09:54And it was nice to have a friend be with you when you're getting those results.
09:59And, of course, on the inside, I felt like hell broke loose.
10:05To have a lifeline during this time meant everything to me.
10:11And that's exactly what Candace became.
10:13She became my lifeline.
10:15I try to do what I can for young women because I am a young woman.
10:19And I try to reach out to those who try to reach out to me.
10:22She introduced me to the COURAGE program.
10:35They're a program that help out single mothers to help them get up off their feet.
10:41I had my son a month before my 21st birthday.
10:46I did go through the postpartum.
10:50Candace said that the COURAGE program did offer housing for single mothers.
10:56For me, it was freedom.
11:03Next thing you know, Candace calls me.
11:06Hey, she said there are going to be some new apartments.
11:11The deposit that was needed was $250 down.
11:15And then you will be on the list.
11:21Then that's when she started collecting money.
11:23Ms. Brown, I think you're so strong and so spiritual.
11:28And I love you from the bottom of my heart.
11:31From Jump Street, I didn't like where she was going with everything.
11:36She would be cut and dry with her smile, so she'd go ahead.
11:41And that to me just didn't seem genuine.
11:46So long ago, I was always told, when you see someone that's like that, they're hiding something.
11:55And I always thought she was hiding something.
11:59So what Candace does next, she said, are you guys interested in doing townhomes?
12:07I'm like, heck yeah, let's do, let's do townhomes.
12:11But of course, because of where I was working at the time and income and everything, like how much more, you know, would this be?
12:20So now you're giving an extra $500.
12:24For me, those townhomes just have that sense of pride, that joy.
12:30I felt like I'm doing something that's going to help me be independent.
12:35I said, why not bring my friends with?
12:38Our children can grow up together.
12:42So Candace said, this would be a great time to put more money down, so then when you move in, you can already have, like, maybe three to six months of rent already paid.
12:54So, guess what we did?
12:58We bought into it, and that's why we gave more money.
13:04Between all three of us, there was, like, 5,000 roughly.
13:11Stanita came and told me.
13:13I said, well, make sure you're getting any receipts.
13:16And I'm like, you know what, you're right.
13:19And I said, hey, you know, do you have our files?
13:22We need to see, like, where we are on the list.
13:26She would get upset, and then she's like, I don't appreciate, you know, being harassed.
13:32You know, I'm trying to help you guys out.
13:35You have to understand this is a government-type program, and so anything government is going to take a long time.
13:42If she sees a crack, Candace thinks I can slither into that crack, and then I can make it bigger so I can get through.
13:51That's how I saw her, as a rodent trying to get some cheese.
13:57The next week, I'm saying to myself, like, oh, pay period, I can't wait.
14:08You know, a refresher.
14:11My account was negative $969.
14:24The bank calls me.
14:28Someone cashed my check.
14:33And they're saying, like, well, wait a minute, we know that this is not yours.
14:37And I'm crying.
14:38I'm like, how do you know?
14:39Like, how do you know it's not me?
14:40They were like, well, this person printed out your name, and your handwriting has all been in signatures.
14:49You never would think that your friend would go into your book bag and get your check and take your check out the middle.
14:57I never got a townhome, and I was never on the list.
15:04So all of the money went to her.
15:10I was angry.
15:11I was pissed.
15:12The first thing I did was I drove to her house.
15:17She wasn't there.
15:21It set me back, not just one year or two.
15:24It set me back about a good six years.
15:30It just do something to you, because when you feel like you're letting everyone down, so when you have your parents and then you have your friends, I'm so sorry.
15:40She really hurts Danita to the core, and I can imagine she hurt others as well.
15:57When I first met Candace Clark, I thought she was the person that we were looking for.
16:22She was professional, I thought, okay?
16:25And that's how she presented herself to me.
16:33I am part of a charitable organization for men.
16:37We fixed them something to eat.
16:39We played cards.
16:41I felt like I was doing something.
16:43I served a purpose.
16:46Candace was interested in joining my organization.
16:50She kept on calling and talking with me about it, and I'm like, and basically befriending me, setting me up for the kill.
17:05I had lost my job at the Tribune.
17:09And the money that I got from my 401 .
17:12I was interested in purchasing a three flat.
17:18I was talking to her about it, and she's like, well, I could help you with that.
17:24And I'm like, really?
17:25And she's like, yeah, because that's what I do.
17:28I love helping others.
17:29I said 65th and California is where the one that we wanted.
17:35So she offered for me to put the money into her account because she said she had to have a certain amount of money in her account before we can go do a closing.
17:48And I paid money for the furniture for all three floors.
17:58I really did not realize things weren't, or things were going sideways until my daughter's wedding was coming up.
18:08My daughter wanted to get married, and she wanted to get married at the Chateau Boucher.
18:11Candace said, oh, I know someone that works there.
18:19I can set your daughter up, and we're going to do this up for her.
18:24Again, I fell for it.
18:27And, um, hmm.
18:33The wedding planner and my daughter went to the facility, saw the room that they wanted to have the wedding at.
18:40We got everything in the venue.
18:44Candace suggested a Hummer limo.
18:49A chocolate fountain.
18:52I had given her $8,000 in cash.
18:57All of this is with my 401k.
19:01All of us were more excited than anything else, but Candace Clark never paid any of the money for the room.
19:09And we canceled my daughter's wedding.
19:14It was more so of an embarrassment than anything else.
19:17It was like I got stabbed in the heart.
19:22Only because, um, I don't know how to explain this, but my daughter, she's my backbone.
19:36And that's the only way I can put it.
19:38She's my backbone.
19:39And she always was there for me.
19:44And at the time, I'm thinking, um, you know, I got this money.
19:49I can make this wedding for her.
19:52Um, and to see both of them literally was in tears.
19:57And she came to me, and she's like, which hurt me.
20:00And she's like, Mama, I would never be able to have a wedding that I wanted.
20:04And that is when I decided that Candace was not who she said she was, and it was time for me to get her back.
20:19I went to the police.
20:24Hmm.
20:28Somebody had told me that you need to get a picture of her.
20:31I was trying to meet with her, have lunch with her, whatever coffee.
20:35She cut me off.
20:38It's from the circuit court of Cook County.
20:40I went down and set this up myself, filing charges against her.
20:45But they have no way of contacting her.
20:48She was gone.
20:55Candace Clark was really focused on, on, on delivering these promises of helping women, uh, helping crime in Chicago.
21:04And I'm so excited to go on my own journey.
21:07And hopefully, riding a few drones along the way.
21:13So, thank you.
21:16I had no, no reason to question, um, at the time, uh, that I wasn't going to eventually get paid.
21:25After my daughter's wedding, I decided to do my own investigation.
21:37Google was a big help, but she was, like, all over the place.
21:42Olympia Fields, Oak Lawn, a lot of different suburbs.
21:46My manager from the Tribune had told me, just put out, watch out for this person.
21:54She's a scammer.
21:55Don't give out too much information.
21:59So, at the UIC event, I arrived and everything was already set up.
22:15Good afternoon.
22:16The big band was playing the same band, um, that was in the previous event.
22:21There were people around me and people I didn't recognize either, um, that I hadn't worked with before.
22:28I was a little annoyed, too, at the whole situation.
22:32At the time, she hadn't paid us either for the past three, some months.
22:38About a month after we had not received any payment for either of the two dates we played,
22:42I was curious as to what was going on and who this person was.
22:45I Googled her, director Candace Clark, and nothing was coming up.
22:51It was very strange.
23:00I was trying to express my frustration to Paulette, but as nicely as possible.
23:05Like, I think she knew that we wouldn't rag on her, like, all the time,
23:10like, expecting payment if she gave, like, a valid excuse.
23:16So, she pushed the blame on the government.
23:19Like, ah, it's the government's fault.
23:21So, after, you know, like, the third excuse, I started to feel like, oh, there's something up here.
23:29Jamie emailed all of us and said, how did I not think of this?
23:32I had the Illinois comptroller nearby.
23:36So, she was like, why haven't I knocked on the door to see what's going on?
23:45My doorbell rang, and it was a neighbor of mine who I had never met.
23:49Because I'm the comptroller and I pay people, she wanted to know if they were ever going to get paid,
23:55and this is my understanding.
23:56And I said, well, I don't really know what you're talking about.
23:59So, why don't you give me more information?
24:01And so, she started telling me about this work relationship with Candace Clark,
24:06who's the director of special investigations for the state of Illinois.
24:09I mean, I've never heard of that.
24:12I don't know who she is.
24:13The name doesn't ring a bell to me.
24:15But let me look into that.
24:17And I immediately reached out to Governor Pritzker.
24:23He got back to me right away and said, there's no such thing as a director of special investigations,
24:28and we do not have a Candace Clark.
24:31I started Googling her, and I saw that there was multiple, like, ceremonies.
24:40One at UIC, which is a very reputable and respected university here.
24:45Then, she also had the other video at Maggiano's, the place that everyone in the political space knows.
24:52I've spoken there multiple times.
24:54Here, I got to check, does my collar look okay?
24:57She was able to leverage the fact that they had probably just had an event,
25:02and they hadn't taken their banners down.
25:06I told my neighbor, I'm so sorry, but this is, like, it seems illegal to me in so many different ways.
25:12I mean, she's using the state seal, which is illegal if you're not a state elected official.
25:22But then, I was thrown back when I saw the video of my neighbor.
25:26And I'm like, hold on, is that you?
25:29What are you doing posing as a judge?
25:32Seems to me like that wouldn't be legal either.
25:36I'm sorry, I was rushing the program here.
25:39Um, the question and answer period.
25:41Um, do we have any...
25:43We already have someone with a question.
25:45Will you at any time work on cases that the state's attorney's office has filed against the Chicago Police Department?
25:51Don't look at me.
25:55Good luck.
25:57She wrote things.
25:58She wrote all of these questions.
26:00She gave these questions to everybody.
26:02She's acting.
26:04We were all actors.
26:07Mr. Wade, I'm gonna be your assistant for the next 15 to 30 minutes.
26:11I literally know, like, everything about you and your brands.
26:15Candace Clark hired all of us actors to portray these different government officials.
26:21They had to have people portraying these people in order to get her sworn in so that she can get work done.
26:28The tone I got was like, yeah, this happens all the time.
26:31Like, because of these government shutdowns, like, we need actors to portray it.
26:36As an actor, I mean, that sounds legit enough.
26:41We had no reason to doubt Candace Clark's position, uh, at the time.
26:45That's what these con artists have, right?
26:51They have the ability to just snow people over, to convince anyone of even the most outlandish thing.
26:58This one is the order to ensure ethical and a responsive agreement.
27:03So, it was really alarming to me, and it was also eye-opening in many respects, but I really wanted to help her.
27:17So I reached out to the police department, and I was put in touch with a woman who was doing special investigations, but legitimate ones.
27:26I did the best I could to give them, you know, pretty much lay it out for them, and then they did the rest.
27:30Jamie emailed all of us, Candace Clark does not exist in their system, so this has been a fraud.
27:40She had concocted this whole thing in a, out of thin air, and we all bought in.
27:46Uh, this is the weirdest situation I've been in.
27:49I feel like, the whole time, like, I should have, like, I should have caught something. Like, something more. I should have, something should have.
28:03But, you know, it's kind of forgiven myself a little bit for her.
28:08Yeah, she did, she did a pretty good job of, uh, convincing everybody. She's convincing.
28:16So, Jamie told all of us to, like, let's be very, uh, let's not mention anything to anybody.
28:23We have, like, an actual investigator, like, investigating into this.
28:28I just send my emails over, all my correspondence over to him.
28:36So, everybody and anybody that I got in touch with or contact with, I told them about her.
28:43So, I'm telling the cab driver about what happened, and he's like, well, wait a minute.
28:48I just had someone here in my cab from CBS, and she gave me her card.
28:55Her name is Dorothy Tucker. I called.
29:00She was nice. She was helpful. She listened.
29:03And from then on, she stayed on the story.
29:11He got whatever information that I could get from her.
29:14Also, I got a call from this guy.
29:21It was a recording.
29:24He was trying to contact me, and I'm, of course, I'm not trusting nobody.
29:29I'm, well, I don't know you, you know.
29:32It took him to tell me that it was about Candace Clark for me to call him back.
29:50He told me that we went online, and we couldn't find anything about her.
29:55But we did run across your page of what you said about Candace Clark.
30:04So, he told me that she was going to be given an award somewhere downtown.
30:09I contacted Dorothy, and she went to the meeting.
30:14We're here because you were accused of stealing $65,000 to $70,000 from Darlene Simmons.
30:23What?
30:25Can you tell me what's going on?
30:27Candace kicked Dorothy Tucker out.
30:29Okay, I'm going to ask you, like, the last time the police stopped.
30:32I was amazed, because I couldn't understand how she was able to do this with a straight face and not feel any remorse.
30:39Did not feel anything, especially when Dorothy Tucker called her on the elevator and asked her about me.
30:46And I didn't do anything to her.
30:48I didn't.
30:49I didn't.
30:50She said, well, you committed fraud.
30:52She said, no, I didn't.
30:53Prove it.
30:54It's so much effort to do this for almost no foreseeable reason.
31:05I mean, she had to have written out like a skeleton, right?
31:10And then fill out each of the scenes.
31:13Hired all these people to make it seem legit.
31:16She wrote all of our speeches and wrote down all the questions to have people repeat to her in a question answer sort of situation.
31:23They were creating scripts, and I don't know if Paulette or Candace or that team created the scripts,
31:29but they were clearly giving direction about what to say and how to position themselves.
31:32There was a lot of media coverage concerning, you know, a possible serial killer in the Chicago area.
31:39Would you consider reviewing these cases?
31:44I'm not sure.
31:45I'm going to take that under consideration.
31:47Sure.
31:50There is a protocol.
31:52She shook her head and was like, oh, man.
31:54Like, she wanted that to add that to add validity to her speech.
31:58Pretty sure there was only three questions, which rule of three.
32:01I don't know if, like, she thought of that ahead or she just felt good at three.
32:05To even have pamphlets to be given out.
32:08It's a huge ruse.
32:11Paulette was not real.
32:14She was Candace Clark, hiding behind the internet where you can't see who you're speaking with.
32:18You just take it by face value.
32:20And it's easy enough to create an email address and, you know, create a false person.
32:24And she successfully did that.
32:26When Jamie knocked on my door, we were still coming out of that budget impasse.
32:31So there was still a delay in paying people.
32:35Candace Clark knew what was going on with the state's finances and she was paying attention to that and took advantage.
32:41More people are telling us their tales of losing thousands of dollars in an elaborate Chicago charade.
32:51When I saw Candace Clark on television, I said, oh, my goodness, I'm going to have to call Stanita and tell Stanita who I just saw on television.
33:02This girl has been doing this for years.
33:05Our biggest discovery was Clark's housing scam.
33:09She loved renting big, expensive, beautiful homes.
33:12Only she never paid for them.
33:14She was evicted 23 times over 12 years.
33:17The sheriff's department eviction, open the door.
33:20What's your name?
33:21Yeah, Miss Dixon.
33:22Eighty-some people came out of the woodwork.
33:25When we added up, the total came to a whopping $469,000.
33:31She's a serial scammer.
33:33I found out later that she even pretended to be Miss Teen Illinois in high school.
33:37You're thinking of doing this stuff as a teen, knowing that people can check up and find out if this is real or not.
33:44The 1987 Miss Teen USA.
33:48Danielle Reese Riverwood, Illinois.
33:50Insane.
33:52Breaking news right now on a CBS2 investigation into a woman who's been accused of being a serial con artist.
33:57She was arrested in the morning at a Starbucks in Chicago.
34:01News sources indicate she was carrying several fake IDs.
34:04Will Candace Clark finally face the consequences for her actions?
34:08Nobody ever calls a criminal defense attorney when they're having a good day.
34:17They always call us when they're having the worst day ever, and so I try to be sympathetic to that.
34:21And at least show up, if I can, to help somebody out.
34:27So at first glance, I had no idea what the case was.
34:32I was asked by somebody that I wasn't even sure who it was, called me, asked me to come into court to represent their mother.
34:39And I said yes.
34:40And I showed up for a bond hearing, and I walk into court and there's, you know, a ton of reporters, a ton of press.
34:48And everybody wanted to talk to me, and I had no idea why.
34:54What's, what's wrong with my story?
34:57Why do you say, why do you say they're wrong?
34:59We apologize.
35:00Currently there's, there's no account.
35:02So that was me coming out of court with Candace and Dorothy Tucker, just accosting us.
35:11I actually had to hurry her into my car and drive off.
35:17Candace Clark, the accused of serial scammer.
35:20The first thing she did, fire her attorney.
35:23Why did you come off the case?
35:25Any time that somebody that's accused of any sort of fraud asks me to pay in check, I have a bit of a saying, and it goes,
35:32if you want me to take payment in check, that must mean you think I'm stupid.
35:37And if you think I'm stupid, why would you want me to represent you?
35:47My name is David Drewicki, and I'm a criminal defense attorney here in Chicago, Illinois.
36:00I defended Candace Clark.
36:04There were a number of other attorneys.
36:07For me to replace the public defender or to replace a single private counsel is pretty typical, but there were, I believe, three others prior to me being on.
36:18That is a little unusual.
36:21I got up to speed and knew where we stood, and the judge wanted an answer.
36:26Plea your trial.
36:27What are we doing?
36:29I do think it's important when and where appropriate that her side, Candace's side, be heard.
36:36That there is another side to this, that there are words on paper and allegations, but there's another side to this, and that we're going to defend this and protect her rights,
36:45and ultimately, if we had to go to trial, make the state go through the paces of proving their case.
36:52Allegations are free.
36:54Proof is difficult.
36:56There were certain counts that I went in thinking, okay, I think we can get a not guilty on this.
37:01One of them was, who actually signed this contract?
37:07Paulette Robinson.
37:09That's who would be ultimately held responsible.
37:12Hypothetically, in our case, if they're going to allege Paulette Robinson isn't a real person, but it's a made-up name for Candace, you have to prove that.
37:22How do you know it's not somebody else who signed that, or it wasn't somebody else on her behest, or a friend, or whatever it may be?
37:30It gets tough, but that's really, that would be a state problem or the plaintiff's problem to figure out.
37:37I'd love to win.
37:39Could we have gone to trial?
37:41Absolutely.
37:42She had a constitutional right to doing that.
37:45What was probably in her best interest, doing the cost-benefit and the risk analysis, taking the plea agreement.
37:52Candace was facing six felony charges.
37:59On the high end, she was going to serve as high as seven years.
38:03She was looking at a low end of three years.
38:05The agreement, based on all of the felony charges and pleading guilty, was to five years in the Illinois Department of Corrections, or prison.
38:13She ended up serving six months and has now been released on home confinement or electronic monitoring.
38:23It hurts.
38:28You know, it angers me.
38:30I'm very angry because of what has happened.
38:34I lost a lot.
38:41And I can't get it back.
38:44I would thank her just a little bit.
38:47Because of what she did to me when I was younger, no one can pull that over me in my adult life.
38:58Because I know now.
38:59I know better.
39:00Oh, I would like to slap her.
39:04I feel bad for the other ladies, too.
39:08So, I would definitely probably take a second whack.
39:13Just because, say, whoosh, that's for Stenita.
39:16Whoosh, and that's for the other ladies.
39:19She should be doing some time.
39:21And I hear that she's on house arrest until December.
39:26Then now what?
39:27Then what?
39:28She's free to walk the streets like nothing ever happened.
39:31It's probably August now.
39:34Oh, really?
39:37Her whole campaign as the director of special investigations was to help women in horrible situations.
39:57Yet, you look back on her scams and they're all targeting other women.
40:03She thought, well, nobody trusts these politicians.
40:05They're all the same.
40:06Who's going to think anything about this?
40:08And no one's going to be surprised when they find out it was a big scam because they're
40:11going to think I was a politician.
40:14The scam that she did with Jamie and her employees was a small scam.
40:21It was a little scam to set up the big scam.
40:26This whole scenario where she had credibility.
40:31Look, I spoke at the city club.
40:32Look, I'm at the University of Illinois.
40:34I'm sworn in by a judge.
40:35It's a diverse crowd.
40:38She was really laying this foundation of video evidence to be able to then go to a big corporation
40:45in Chicago and say, look at all the great things I'm doing for diversity and for justice.
40:49And we'd love for you to be a part of that.
40:52And can you write us a check for $25,000?
40:55The links that she went to made it clear that it was for money.
41:00I felt like sometimes maybe she felt entitled.
41:04It's also like that person that starts to smoke and then they look for that next high.
41:11And then they drink and then it's something else.
41:14I think that maybe she started and she could have stole something as simple as a candy bar at a candy store.
41:21And then she got away with it.
41:24And then she kept getting away with it.
41:26So she was looking for the next high.
41:29I just don't think that that big scam's out of her mind yet.
41:33There will be more scams.
41:34They're probably happening as we tape this interview.
41:37And hopefully someday she will actually be held truly accountable.
41:47Candace is free.
41:50And how I feel, I have no love for her.
41:57I have more and I know it's not right to hate.
42:02And I have some people that I just don't want to be around and be bothered with.
42:07This young lady, I hate her.
42:11And if I didn't have a conscious, I would probably want to do something to her.
42:19But because I do have a conscious, I'll let God handle it.
42:24Take care of yourself,
42:39Take care of yourself.
42:48never has a case involving five fish gone so far i hate these
43:01whoever has the heaviest fish is gonna be the winner there always seemed to be a lot of smoke
43:10around jason jake oh yeah dude you're always winning i don't care if they had a horseshoe
43:15up there that's impossible is it questionable yes can you prove it no true crime story smugshot
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