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00:00:00The Batman is finally released in theaters. That means it's time to start talking spoilers.

00:00:09Hi, my name is Sean and I started this channel because I was driving everyone around me crazy

00:00:13talking about movies and TV way too much. If you can relate, you're probably in the right place to

00:00:17consider clicking that subscribe button. With that in mind, go ahead and join me down below

00:00:21in the comments section. What are your thoughts on The Batman and what did you find most interesting

00:00:27about it? No need for a spoiler warning in your comments because the spoiler warning was in the

00:00:32title of the video as well as the thumbnail. If you haven't seen the movie yet, go watch the movie,

00:00:37then come back and join the discussion in the comments section. Down below, I put chapter

00:00:43markers so you can skip ahead to whatever subject you're most interested in, whatever character you

00:00:47want to know my thoughts on. Try to organize it so you don't have to sit and watch the entire thing.

00:00:52With that said, let's get started. First topic of conversation, having now seen the movie multiple

00:00:57times, what do I think about it? So essentially, I saw the movie a week ago, recorded my review,

00:01:02having not really talked to anyone, having not read anyone else's opinions. That was just one

00:01:07viewing, fresh perspective, just my thoughts, my takeaways. Since then, I saw the movie a second time

00:01:13on Tuesday at the early IMAX fan screenings and then I saw it opening night. So I've seen the movie

00:01:18three times now. I've talked with quite a few people about it and I've read a number of views and

00:01:23watched a few reviews to kind of get some different perspectives in my head. Where do I land

00:01:26on the film after all of that? Essentially where it was with my original take on the film, which is

00:01:32to say it's a very good Batman movie. It's the Batman movie that I've been waiting for. It's a

00:01:38real detective story with him doing an investigation and it complements the other Batman films really

00:01:46well in that Batman gives us a great origin story, The Dark Knight gives us a crime thriller,

00:01:52Zack Snyder's Justice League gives us a team-up movie, and then this movie gives us the detective

00:01:56story, in which case you've got a lot of great different versions of the Batman in cinematic

00:02:03form that you can check out no matter what type of experience that you want. And this kind of, I

00:02:08think, filled it out where the big gigantic missing piece was that detective story. Beyond that, I think

00:02:14Matt Reeves just a great job making an immersive world that makes you feel like you're in the middle

00:02:20of Gotham. He made a Gotham that feels lived in and fleshed out, where everyone has a history,

00:02:28everything's intertwined. It feels holistic, well thought out. And when they talk about all these

00:02:35spinoffs that they want to do in Gotham, you kind of go, that makes sense in light of this movie.

00:02:40Everything feels like there's more stories to tell. Everyone has a history. Everyone has more

00:02:46adventures that they can have, and I thought that that was really cool. There's a lot of just iconic,

00:02:52classic moments where both with the way the shot is framed, the cinematography, as well as just what

00:02:59the moment represents for Batman, there's some cool, intense, awesome shots. All that said, I think

00:03:07three hours was probably a bit much. It's just having seen it three times, it felt a bit long when I first

00:03:13watched it, and then when you watch it a second time, there's just a lot more lingering that maybe

00:03:17needed to be there. There's some little scenes that maybe give a little bit of extra something,

00:03:22but they come at the cost of just dragging things quite a bit. So I think it could have been tightened

00:03:27up. I think you could have trimmed it down. How much? I'm not sure, but I feel like everything could

00:03:32have been, every scene could have been tightened up just a little bit, and there are some little bits

00:03:36that maybe didn't need to be there. And then I definitely feel like there's some, the story

00:03:42plays weird where the mystery that we've been of who's behind the, these murders, why is he doing

00:03:50it? Who's the rat? That gets resolved with Falcone getting arrested and then shot. And even in the

00:03:57Riddler's plan, that's the answer to one of the riddles is that he's arrested. So all the characters that you

00:04:03want to get arrested or arrested, all the questions that you want answered are answered. And then it's

00:04:08like, but we need a big spectacle finale. So all of a sudden there's like this kind of this tact on

00:04:14the Riddler had one more plan. He had one more thing up his sleeve. And all of a sudden we have

00:04:20something else happening. And of course we'll, we'll elaborate on that more in the full review,

00:04:25but I did feel it kind of felt like they let the air out of the balloon. And so not a perfect Batman

00:04:31story. And there's some, I don't like that he's getting shot so many times he gets, he literally

00:04:34has a big bomb blow up in his face. And this right here, the one identified part of him not injured

00:04:39at all. Like the bomb is right in his face, right there. There's no excuse for why there's not some

00:04:44shrapnel damage right in here. And so there's just a few things like that that just, it was like

00:04:48strange decisions that I feel like that you could have fixed that, that could have worked. So that's my

00:04:54overall kind of big perspective. It's essentially what I thought before when I first saw the movie,

00:04:59but that's just my take on the movie. What did other people think about the film? Both at the

00:05:04IMAX fan screening that I went to in Waco, Texas, as well as the opening night screening. I went to

00:05:10here in the Austin area. I asked people after the movie, what did they think about it? What was

00:05:15their perspective? Here's what they had to say. So we just got out of seeing the Batman. What did

00:05:19you think about the Batman? Overall? I thought it was pretty good. I thought it was great. I loved it.

00:05:23I really liked it. I thought it was very, very good. I thought it was pretty good. I loved it. I've been hyped for this

00:05:28since 2020. I haven't enjoyed a movie like that since no one. So you've seen the Batman two times.

00:05:35I have. After thinking about it, what do you think about it? So I love this movie. I think it's great

00:05:41because I was expecting a good detective movie with all the inspirations it was getting from

00:05:45with Seven and Zodiac. It definitely lived up to the hype. I really enjoyed the story. I was along for

00:05:51the ride. And I thought it's storytelling was very well done. I really liked the acting. It was like

00:05:57suspenseful. It was like a really cool mystery. On the second viewing, I started to realize how much

00:06:04more of a connection Batman has to other characters in the movie. It really flew by. Definitely darker,

00:06:08definitely grittier than I thought it was going to be. I think it delivered on a lot of comic arcs I

00:06:12wanted to see adapted. It was like a comic book kind of come to life but like put in the real world.

00:06:16My favorite scene is the car chase scene. That was pretty epic. Definitely the car chase. I think

00:06:22that was one of the most invigorating car chases I've been, I've watched on the big screen so. My wife

00:06:28started freaking out as soon as the car lit up and she didn't stop freaking out until the scene was over. My favorite

00:06:33thing about it was the cinematography. All the shots looked really great. Yeah, I just love like the

00:06:38cinematography. Like that guy needs a raise for sure. I had a couple issues with maybe some kind of

00:06:43conveniences with the main villain's plot. Had like a lot of little comic references for me at least. I thought the

00:06:49casting was really good. And I thought all the actors did really good. I think everyone did like

00:06:53a really good job. Since day one when they first announced Robert Pattinson, I had high hopes for

00:06:58him and it paid off. I actually enjoyed Robert Pattinson's portrayal of Bruce Wayne in Batman even

00:07:04though I would have liked to see him be a bit more jacked for the role but you know aside from that I

00:07:09thought it was pretty good. What was your favorite part? A bit of spoilers. Barry Key again. Yeah when that

00:07:16scene happened my wife goes, who is that? Who is that? I thought it was Two-Face. I heard that too when I

00:07:22watched it the other day and then as the scene ends she figured it was really good. So I think that definitely

00:07:27sets up a three Joker story. Really good. I saw an IMAX. Did it live up to the hype? Absolutely. Definitely.

00:07:33It's competing right now with my second favorite Batman movie with the Batman Begins. It's not as good as the

00:07:39Dark Knight but nothing is. Definitely lived up to the hype. I would definitely go watch it. I went in and I

00:07:45lowered my expectations before I watched the movie and I think that was better. Yes. Than going in

00:07:49just super hyped for the movie and I think it in that way it lived up to my expectations a little

00:07:53more. I really love the Dark Knight movies. This one I would say probably up there on the ranking but

00:08:00not top. I don't know what I'd change in this film. It's almost a perfect film. For me I mean it just

00:08:06nailed like every single every single thing I could ask for. I'm gonna try to see it again as soon as

00:08:10possible. And it's my favorite Batman movie so far. I loved it. I plan on seeing it again. So with all the

00:08:15people I talked to at both screenings I didn't find anyone that flat out didn't like the movie.

00:08:20Some people they they only feel like yeah I liked it. It was good. And then they had some issues with

00:08:24it but other things that they loved. And then there's definitely people that absolutely loved

00:08:28this movie and everything that it offered. And that seems to be the general consensus. Most people

00:08:34are very positive on this movie. A bunch of people also are loving this movie. But generally speaking

00:08:39a very good detective story. A Batman movie that we're glad exists. There are some problems in

00:08:45there. With that said I'm gonna just start walking through the movie. The plot points,

00:08:49the themes, the characters, all that fun stuff. And if you want to skip ahead I got chapter markers

00:08:54down below. And you don't hurt my feelings if you skip ahead because you clicked on my video

00:08:58and I already appreciate that you did that. So thank you so much for watching and let's get started.

00:09:03So the movie kicks off with a cold open of the Riddler committing the murder that sets everything

00:09:09in motion. Actually right before it kicks off with Ava Maria like this operatic version of

00:09:14Ava Maria playing. And then it just goes boom! The Batman is like okay man they're setting the tone

00:09:19right off the bat that this is going to be a little bit different than I was expecting because

00:09:23it's not starting off with this heroic Batman theme or something like that. Nope.

00:09:27Ava Maria. Alrighty. And then it goes to the Riddler first person mode using binoculars to spy

00:09:33on the mayor's household. You see this heavy breathing

00:09:35and he's like what on earth is going on? And you see like a ninja in the house that doesn't feel

00:09:42like you should be in this movie. And I didn't immediately pick up on the fact that it was

00:09:45Halloween. It's pretty obvious once you know it's Halloween and of course they tell you later on

00:09:50it's Halloween but it's just kind of like it's kind of pans up and you see ninjas like what is

00:09:54going on is this? And then eventually it's like you see pumpkin heads and stuff. Okay. I say okay it's

00:10:00Halloween. That makes a little bit more sense as to why there's a weird ninja right here.

00:10:03And then very effectively just sets kind of the stage for a bunch of stuff going on where the

00:10:08mayor's watching this election that's coming up. They established the Wayne fund that's so important

00:10:15and maybe there's something suspicious about it. And then while you're paying attention to these

00:10:19plot points like the light turns off and you suddenly realize the Riddler's there and then

00:10:23the light snaps back off and he disappears. And it's a nice little like mildly freaky jump scare.

00:10:29It's not really a jump scare but it is like oh well he's right there and that that is creepy

00:10:35and that he snaps and just starts beating this guy's skull in just establishes in the opening scene

00:10:43this is a very hard PG-13. And I said this in my other review but it's a movie that I really felt like

00:10:50if a normal if a independent studio put out the same movie it would be rated R. Warner Brothers has

00:10:56the resources the funds to like keep resubmitting the movie and do everything to like leverage their

00:11:01sway to like get a PG-13 on something like this where lesser studios don't have the resources to

00:11:08try and make that happen. But I mean like he's smashing in a skull and of course there's no blood

00:11:15pours out of his head because that would definitely get them an R rating and so then he's bludgeoned to

00:11:19death but we don't see any blood from it at the same time. And from there you seem like pulling

00:11:26tape and stuff like that you're like what is going on here just establishing this is a terrifying serial

00:11:33killer in the very opening moments of the film. From there we get our introduction to Batman where

00:11:39it does this noir-esque voiceover of him describing what he's been up to the fact that it's Halloween

00:11:45night and describing the city it shows us the city and establishes very quickly Batman's reputation

00:11:55in this universe where he's this dark brooding character that preys on the city at night or

00:12:01preys on criminals at nighttime and establishing as soon as the signal goes up criminals are actually

00:12:09afraid. And that was just a really nice little touch the way that it plays out that you're

00:12:15showing him watching and you see a couple crimes being committed and they you're trying to figure

00:12:21out like which one is he going to stop who's he going to follow how's this going to play out

00:12:24and they show this guy rob a convenience store and then he looks up and sees the bat signal

00:12:29and he's like freaking out like oh crap is he coming after me like am I the one that he's going to come

00:12:37after and then the guy gets hit by a car because of it because he's looking up at the sky

00:12:42and then runs off and then it picks up with where instead we're going to follow this knockout gang

00:12:47that are about to prey on this guy and there you kind of establish that there's this one guy that's

00:12:52not quite a member of the gang get that he's only got half his face and he has to knock this guy out

00:12:56to get in the gang and he's clearly terrified he looks up in the sky and he sees the bat signal he's

00:13:00like I don't I don't know if I want to do this I don't know if I want to be a part of this

00:13:04and as he's about to have to knock this guy out Batman walks in and just this brooding force

00:13:13and we'll talk about this in a little bit but one of the things that the movie does so well

00:13:18is just make Batman in the suit seem like this force of nature whenever he's on screen

00:13:26just from even when he's walking how heavy he sounds and it's one of the things my wife like

00:13:32whisper he's like he sounds like he's 300 pounds and they just make him seem like this force of

00:13:38nature and just slowly walks forward and then you get the scene that won millions and millions of

00:13:45people over in the DC fandom trailer where the guy's like who are you supposed to be walks up to him

00:13:51with his metal pipe and is about to whack him on the head and then Battinson just demolishes this guy

00:13:56and keeps punching him in the face and do like you're like okay he's down oh oh you're still

00:14:03going you're still going these aren't vengeance and so of course that was everyone freaked out when we

00:14:08first saw that in the trailer and when you see it in the movie you freak out kind of again because it

00:14:13just really establishes the vibe and energy of this Batman that he is out to get bad guys they are

00:14:24afraid of him just before this they set up this moment by this shoplifter guy sees it he's so

00:14:30afraid that he gets hit by a car because he's afraid that the Batman finds him Batman's going to

00:14:34do that to him that's who this Batman is and so then a fight breaks out and Batman beats all these

00:14:41guys up and then I think the key moment that kind of establishes what this movie is and kind of the

00:14:46journey that this Batman this Bruce Wayne is on in this film the person he saves is like don't hurt

00:14:53me the person he saves isn't like thank you the person he saves isn't like is it grateful or it's

00:15:00it's not that person he saves is says don't hurt me because everyone is afraid of him because he's

00:15:08vengeance he's labeled as a vigilante he's not perceived of as a hero he isn't perceived of as

00:15:14the guy that saves you he's the guy that punishes the bad guys vengeance for the bad guys which

00:15:22is right out of the gate let you know the movie that you're watching and who this Batman has been

00:15:29up to this point in time so from there we get our first investigation scene and this is another

00:15:34sequence that was heavily featured in the trailers in particular the DC fandom trailer where you kind

00:15:40of follow Batman walking in that also immediately in the sequence establishes the vibe that he has the

00:15:48police are like both shocked that he's there can't believe that Jim Gordon's allowing him in

00:15:53at the same time no one's doing anything about it and you have these little moments where people like

00:15:57step in his way and he just looks at him just moves his eye and then they turn out of the way and then

00:16:03as the I don't know it was a corridor whoever shows up and it's like investigating the body the

00:16:07looking over it and he almost steps in Batman's way you just have this moment of like guys like

00:16:11very early on establishing this guy just oozes intimidating energy from him and this is they

00:16:24got to mention that there were going to be uh inspirations from seven in the works of David Fincher

00:16:29in this sequence immediately you get all of that where you have a killer with a distinct style a

00:16:38distinct message leaving a series of clues clearly they're trying to communicate something clearly

00:16:43they're getting at something here all of that feels very seven-esque and the movie just lingers

00:16:49on the investigation it doesn't feel like it just it's trying to get to the next plot point

00:16:53pauses as a riddle is read and as the audience you have time right there where you can think through

00:16:58what's being said and I'm not really a riddle person but a couple of times as we're going through

00:17:03my wife was I was like it's this and she's like she figured them out as she was like they're they're

00:17:08smart enough that they're not super duper dumb and obvious but they're not so wild and crazy that

00:17:12you couldn't figure it out right there in the moment and so you just kind of go through little

00:17:16pieces of this investigation trying to figure out what on earth is going on here and and this stays

00:17:24throughout the entire film this sort of investigative vibe where Batman and Jim Gordon are actually

00:17:31partners they're partners like we're almost in a but not buddy cop movie but uh seven ask investigation

00:17:38so come out say buddy cop that's a different genre entirely but you did have partners in seven

00:17:42and they have different perspectives and they notice different things they have different resources

00:17:47available to them and they keep using one another to to try and um solve this case and you just get

00:17:54these fun little little light moments of levity it's not forced quips it's not mcu humor but like

00:18:01the thumb is cut off and you're like what like this horrifying thing where the thumb is cut off what on

00:18:05earth does that mean and then you have this like riddle that they solve about drive okay go to the car

00:18:11thumb drive and thumb drive is a punchline to a joke followed by a little bit of a gross out gag of

00:18:18like well how do you unlock a computer these days my computer right here you need to cut off this

00:18:23finger i probably should tell you that you need to cut off this finger right here if you want to get

00:18:27into my computer and so it like it plays into the thought in a way into the plot in a way that makes

00:18:31sense but it's also a mildly dark joke and what they're doing with all this stuff they have

00:18:37little moments like their their banter between them all throughout the film where they show up at

00:18:41the orphanage and Batman goes no guns and Jim Gordon's like uh that's uh that's your thing man

00:18:47not mine it's like a perfect little joke that feels like what would really be said and

00:18:53establishes the differences between them Jim Gordon is a cop of course he's gonna go in there

00:18:59with a gun he's not wearing an armor suit that can take bombs and explosions and so i just i what i

00:19:05found fascinating about the film is that Jim Gordon is they don't give him like a ton of depth uh he

00:19:11doesn't have like a character arc you don't learn anything about his family but this is probably the

00:19:15most present he's been in in a Batman film in absolutely the movie where him and Batman are

00:19:21partners the most i mean in the Nolan films of course Bale is working with Gordon all throughout

00:19:29the movies it's part of his plan but here i mean they are every investigation scene they are working

00:19:34it together where Gordon's partner is Batman he doesn't have this other person he's working with

00:19:41Batman is the person and so that's just a really neat little dynamic that that they worked into it

00:19:47of a way to use Gordon that makes him interesting makes him uh fun has great chemistry chemistry with our

00:19:56Batman so Wright and Pattinson great on-screen vibe dynamic dynamic between the two of them

00:20:02but at the same time it's not like the typical way to choose a character where they'll have to have

00:20:07this arc of how they play no no he he's there to like flesh out these sequences interesting little

00:20:14way to do it and on this note let's talk a little bit more about specifically Robert Pattinson as Batman

00:20:20and i'm going to distinguish between Batman and Bruce Wayne because uh they're they're kind of the two

00:20:27aspects of this when you're cast in this role there's two gigantic things that you need to be able to

00:20:32do and when i'm talking about i'm talking about the characterization as well as the performance of what

00:20:35they're trying to go into but so specifically talking about him as Batman i've touched on this quite a bit

00:20:40i thought when he's in the suit i i think that this he is a he plays Batman really well and how much of

00:20:49that is just the costume how much of that is Matt Reeves knowing how to frame a shot knowing how to put

00:20:59that camera just the right spot that makes him look gigantic the right way of the way the costume is

00:21:05designed to like make his eyes significantly more emotive and so you can get so much more from him

00:21:11just because of his eyes uh behind the cowl how much of it is the sound design of making him sound

00:21:20gigantic and just little things like i noticed especially the third time every time he moves you

00:21:26got to hear the costume and it's an interesting thing because it it makes you feel Batman whenever he does

00:21:34anything if he takes a step you hear the clumping thuds and whenever he moves you hear the suit and

00:21:41the rubber moving if he just grabs a piece of paper and you hear slight rubber moving and just makes him

00:21:47a presence that he fills every space that he is in and um Pattinson and for what he's able to do

00:21:58um like absolutely pulls off being this intense force and as much as it might seem simplistic to say that

00:22:09like it's so much of just the way he moves his eyes turns his head and just stares someone down

00:22:16it works uh it doesn't need to be overstated it doesn't need to be overdone but the whole product that

00:22:23they created of this Batman feels like a terrifying threat every time he's in he's in the scene you feel

00:22:34him um and like i said it's it's a very in certain senses it's Batman is inherently pretty one note

00:22:42when he's in the suit he's not going to be flamboyant charismatic quippy that's not who Batman is and so

00:22:49the simplicity while bringing in intensity and knowing exactly what is up with him i thought they just did

00:22:55it really nicely and likewise with this version of Batman they're doing these little mysteries and

00:23:02there's like a whole there's a scene in the intro where the the police chief shows up and he's like

00:23:08chewing out Gordon they're in the middle of a fight and Batman is unfazed and just goes he lies still

00:23:13solves the riddle right there because that's all he cares you guys is drama i don't care about any of that

00:23:19he's just focused in on this mission and then even to that point at the end of that that opening

00:23:26scene when he sees the child there and just intensely stares at the child and you just you learn so much

00:23:33about him just through this stare that goes on too long and it lingers on the shot too long but that's

00:23:40almost the point he learns so much about this Batman and how he's wired what he's thinking through just an

00:23:46intense stare like that but the other side of the performance is Bruce Wayne and performance as

00:23:51well as characterization i'm not crazy about this version of Bruce Wayne uh the idea that you have a

00:23:57billionaire loner that's reclusive that's not doing anything that seems like that would like make

00:24:04people very suspicious of what he's up to likewise it just doesn't it i don't know it just feels

00:24:11the idea of a Bruce Wayne that's not concerned about his family name and the legacy of the company and

00:24:16saw that stuff like it feels like it's it's lost something and it seems like this movie's trying

00:24:20to do a bit of kind of a its own version of an origin story of it starts off with him as a vigilante

00:24:26that's just worried about punishing criminals and throughout the course of this movie he learns

00:24:31the importance of being a hero and the importance of his family name because the the idea of the

00:24:36family name the way name that's running all throughout this movie but you have a Bruce Wayne that's not

00:24:41really concerned about it in the the traditional senses and so i i wasn't crazy about that side of

00:24:46things where he's you know that Bruce Wayne doesn't really exist in this world uh he it's just batman

00:24:54with the mask off and even when he goes to the funeral he's going because he's looking for the riddler

00:24:59uh i i much prefer certainly the perspective that you know the nolan versions took that is very

00:25:08prominent in the comics of Bruce Wayne plays up being this carefree playboy to make everyone think

00:25:15this guy's such an idiot or he's so goofy that he would never be the batman he doesn't care about

00:25:21stuff like that or likewise he's too busy off with um a bunch of models off in the mountains skiing

00:25:28to be able to do any batman stuff as i just this kind of just as people are calling it emo Bruce Wayne

00:25:36mm i i don't find it that compelling it doesn't bring something new to the table for me it just

00:25:42feels like uh a version of the character that is missing some interesting elements of i i i like a

00:25:52Bruce Wayne Batman that is essentially just three different three different personas there's the

00:25:59batman with the mask on who's on the mission there's the Bruce Wayne that Alfred knows that

00:26:07is this hurt person that's trying to save the city that does care about the Wayne name um but

00:26:13but only really Alfred knows that guy and then there's Bruce Wayne the public persona

00:26:19that is designed to send people on a different track and give him an out give him a series of

00:26:26excuses as to why he's gotten injured give him a series of excuses as to where he's been when the

00:26:31batman was doing different things and so i i just kind of this idea that he doesn't get along with

00:26:36Alfred and you're not my father like when you have you literally have you literally have Bruce Wayne

00:26:44doing the you're not my dad line i don't know i that even that that dynamic that relationship

00:26:51there um where there's a certain disrespect for Alfred in the built into this one uh the you know

00:26:57the sequence where there's going to go to the funeral and Alfred is deeply concerned about the

00:27:03Wayne name and he's like you have to keep up appearances like you you need to respect that name

00:27:07you need cufflinks i don't want your cufflinks and he takes them off and hands them to him and like you

00:27:10this means something and Bruce Wayne's like no you're a Wayne now and Alfred's like your dad gave those to

00:27:17me like i that that was certainly not the direction that i i would have taken a Bruce Wayne and certainly

00:27:25not the direction that i wanted him to go and i'll kind of touch on this at the end i was hoping that

00:27:31this would be a much more distinct arc for Bruce Wayne and maybe this is why it sits kind of bad with me

00:27:37and it could be resolved in a sequel but they establish him just so reclusive detached he goes to

00:27:44the funeral and the mayor's like Bruce it doesn't seem like you're doing anything your family has a

00:27:49history of philanthropy philanthropy i'm mispronouncing the word horribly um but you're not doing anything

00:27:57and of course we as the audience know what he's doing but there's this concept of Bruce Wayne as

00:28:03the public figure Wayne is a name in the community that's pivotal and he's not doing anything and i felt

00:28:09like right there they set up what could be a very interesting arc by the time the credits roll

00:28:14where he grows as batman to be the hero and he grows and learns the importance of Bruce Wayne

00:28:20being a public figure for the good of the city

00:28:23and of course we'll talk about it at the end but they don't don't really do that and i really think

00:28:30there was something there i think there was something very cool that you could have done

00:28:32of giving kind of Bruce Wayne persona an origin story that's pretty cool how do you do an origin

00:28:39story that without repeating what we've seen before you could have had from vengeance to hero

00:28:45from recluse to public figure that's trying to help the city but also as a cover i think there

00:28:52was something to that that they even set it up i think the themes were all there of him growing to

00:28:57be a better person and you have him discover the way that he messed up his relationship with

00:29:02alfred after alfred gets blown up but i don't know the way that it was done is just not the way

00:29:08that i would do Bruce Wayne at all like i just don't don't find it nearly as interesting so like

00:29:13with Pattinson the two sides to it him in the suit i think that's some top batman right there that's

00:29:20top tier batman just the the the way that he's solving puzzles the intimidation factor

00:29:27the Bruce Wayne characterization and like i said that's not him specifically i'm not sure if i do

00:29:32it but the one thing that as i was talking with my wife uh on the way home from seeing it last night

00:29:36she was talking about how she compared robert Pattinson's batman to christopher reeves superman

00:29:45which right off the bat you go i she said that i was like what are you talking about are you crazy

00:29:48and what she meant by that is that christopher reeves the thing one of the things he did

00:29:53excellent as superman and clark kent was his clark kent was such a bumbling fool and he slouched and he

00:30:00was so insecure and as soon as he put on the superman suit took the glasses off he was so confident

00:30:08set up so straight that he just he embodied a different person as soon as he did that there's

00:30:14just such a different energy between his superman and his clark kent and more much more so than

00:30:20henry cavill you perceive of them as two different people and you could understand why someone would

00:30:24see this slouching buffoon in clark kent there's a sweet guy and see this hero in superman his superman

00:30:33and she said more so than any other batman that's one of the things that Pattinson did of when he's in

00:30:39the suit as i've talked about i've repeated myself way too much he is this force of nature that's just

00:30:44bigger than anything in the room and as soon as he's bruce wayne out in public he he's like shy he's

00:30:52scared of people he doesn't know how to respond to them he's this introvert he's slouching a little bit

00:30:57and he just comes off like this weirdo he he's he does not in any way shape or form when he is bruce

00:31:04wayne come off like this intimidating force so much so that contrast the way this kind of plays out

00:31:12there's all these scenes where he just gives a look to groups of grown men and they're backing

00:31:17off and he's standing off to rooms full of people and they're whoa and then he shows up to the funeral

00:31:22and he's walking through some random guys like yeah thomas wayne was a jerk that guy deserved to die

00:31:29just says it right to bruce wayne and nothing happens that no response to him um even when the

00:31:34the guy realizes it is bruce wayne there's no intimidation from bruce wayne and then the mayor

00:31:40mayor not rare she's not actually the mayor i guess she's running for mayor becomes a mayor

00:31:44runs up to bruce wayne and she's kind of telling me you're you suck you're not doing it you're lazy

00:31:49you're ruining your family's name this you know he's six seven inches taller they're like obviously

00:31:55she could be you know she's totally unthreatened by the fact that she could just walk up to him and

00:32:00say this stuff just contrast that to all these scenes where immediately there's this tension

00:32:04and all where he is the brute force in all these other rooms but when he's bruce wayne

00:32:10this shy introvert guy that's just kind of like bobbing his head a little bit paying attention just

00:32:16like looking around and listening and looking for riddler and he very much felt like two different

00:32:23people and had two different energies that he brought to the rooms that he was in but as the

00:32:27characterization as a whole this is not the direction that i would have gone with bruce wayne

00:32:31next thing i want to talk about on here batman gets blown up so after the during the funeral

00:32:38sequence of course the da is kidnapped and then crashes in fun little i wanted actually one of my

00:32:44favorite moments of the movie is when the car crashes in and bruce wayne and running runs and saves

00:32:48the kid i loved that little ongoing beat that bruce wayne batman became obsessed kind of with this kid

00:32:56and it keeps coming back every kind of moment they can have it they find a way that he immediately goes

00:33:01to saving that kid i loved that element of this film that they did that and i wish that they could

00:33:06have done something a little bit more with that that to highlight it have someone maybe notice it a

00:33:12little bit something that they could have there's a couple things i think they could have even paid

00:33:15off a bit more of what they were doing but i loved that bruce wayne kept saving that kid so anyway da's

00:33:21there and finally batman gets to talk with the riddler and there's the riddles and we learned the

00:33:27da would rather die and have his head blown off than say who the rat is because if he says who the rat

00:33:31is then whoever the rat is will kill his family too they'll kill him and his family but if his head

00:33:37gets blown off only he dies so he's willing to get blown up and so the way the sequence plays out is

00:33:42batman's right here in his face like he's right here right there in the face like

00:33:47tell me who it is and it's cutting down to the clock and then he he's right here when the bomb

00:33:54goes off like he's blown up with the bomb right here in his face and flies back when and at least

00:34:00he gets knocked out but immediately it's like you you just have this section right here right here he

00:34:06doesn't even have a beard to keep his skin skin safe like i do he's he's point blank the bomb is

00:34:12right there and there's no damage to this

00:34:15nothing not not a little bit of a burn not one piece of shrapnel

00:34:23that that was one of the things that just bugged me because it just seemed like

00:34:27it's really easy to fix that problem it's really easy to say like at one second very clearly show him

00:34:34turn around and covers himself like there's a number of things you could have done and this is

00:34:41one thing that was all throughout the movie is that this batman is unfazed by severe damage and

00:34:48gunshots for the most part and in a weird way though because certain points in time in the movie he

00:34:54gets shot and he keeps on he gets mad but he like zaps the guy in the intro sequence here he gets blown

00:34:59up knocked unconscious and wakes up presumably like hours later an hour later in the police station

00:35:06so like if you're knocked out for like 30 minutes that's bad like if you get like you know you watch

00:35:14a boxing match guy gets knocked out they they fall down and they get back up in 30 seconds like

00:35:19get up pretty quickly if someone's knocked out from a boxing match for an extended period of time as

00:35:23happens in movies all the time brain damage it's bad so this guy he got blown up and then he's in

00:35:30this room with police officers everywhere and he's fine he's like fighting the dude you're corrupt and

00:35:38you're corrupt i punched three police officers like he's fine and then this is followed by he escapes and

00:35:46he does his raccoon suit flies through the city and then the raccoon suit parachute gets caught and that

00:35:52was fun to watch every single time because as soon as that parachute gets caught he like flies up hits

00:35:57the roof hits the bus smacks into a car and rolls down the road the whole theater goes oh more so

00:36:02than when he's a bomb goes off in his face when he's in the crash people whoo because it's so violent

00:36:07the way the way that it plays out and you see him like ah ah walk off and i was thinking like are they

00:36:13gonna like take a two-day break here where he's healing is something is they gonna no he just kind of

00:36:17keeps on kicking and he's fine after being knocked unconscious by a bomb blowing up in his face

00:36:21and then being in a very violent crash then he keeps on kicking and you see later on in the movie

00:36:29uh in the you know big finale excuse me the falcone final battle where he goes and rests falcone

00:36:34they're like blasting machine guns into his chest he keeps kicking and it's not until like the final

00:36:42fight where he gets point blank shot in the chest with a shotgun where it seems like being shot with a

00:36:48gun a phases him at all because getting shot that time like knocks the wind out of him and even at

00:36:54that one he's okay pretty soon afterwards even though like like every bone in his body is shattered

00:37:00from all these crashes explosives the gunshots but i i wish that they'd done that better i i don't

00:37:06understand it though i really don't understand um showing him get take such substantial damage when you

00:37:15could just not do that you could show him sneaking around and taking guys out you could find ways to

00:37:19him do something to slightly mitigate the damage you could show a day of recovery there's things that

00:37:25they could have done to make this make a little bit more sense anyway back at the police station

00:37:30nice little sequence where there's all these police officers there and he's like seems he won't back

00:37:35down and this is just a couple sequences that there's scenes after bruce white is at the funeral like

00:37:40with the mayor who just shrugging won't say anything and now he's in a room full of intense

00:37:47macho dudes with guns and he's not backing down and he's punching guys and gordon is like hey what

00:37:54are you doing man back off and all leading to gordon being like i'll talk him down i'll talk him down

00:37:59all right you gotta escape let me give you a key get out of here man and that's batman punch him and

00:38:04the next scene he's hey man you could have pulled your punch like i did great little moment right

00:38:09there i love the way that that that little bit uh played out but um i don't that that's the stuff

00:38:15with this movie that makes it like so close to being my favorite batman movie ever and at the same

00:38:20time very clearly i can't put it as my favorite ever because there's just too many things that kind

00:38:25of pull me out with the damage that he takes there's just some of the logic of how it plays out

00:38:28i just i don't get why they did it the way they did from there let's get started talking about the

00:38:32penguin i just thought they knocked this out of the park i loved what they did with the penguin here

00:38:37and the performance the prosthetics it was perfect uh even the way that he's used in the movie

00:38:44this is exactly the right way to do it how do you have a movie that sort of has three big villains in

00:38:52it in riddler falcone and penguin this is it right here you make um him this character that's lived in

00:39:01he has a history he's plugged into this place but he's not the person that's pulling the strings

00:39:08he's not the person that's behind everything it's just a lived-in world in which case these characters

00:39:13are there and we're getting we'll get to see more colin farrell of course he's going to show up again

00:39:18but uh he doesn't need to be the main part of the plot he's just one of the stops along with the

00:39:24investigation and the performance here and the makeup were were phenomenal uh i mean that it

00:39:32probably i don't know what award you win i guess that's is that makeup that needs to win something

00:39:37so i i saw it the second time and um i was driving home with my buddies and one of my friends

00:39:44who loves movies too could win movie trivia contests all that fun stuff he doesn't necessarily

00:39:50follow all of the news though movie news though so he doesn't know the casting things like that

00:39:54and he was like man i don't know who was that guy that they got to play the penguin that guy was

00:39:59fantastic i don't think i've seen him in anything before i was like dude that was that was colin farrell

00:40:03he's that was colin was he what what kind of makeup was that like i had no idea like he's not

00:40:09acting like colin farrell that obviously doesn't look like him there's so much makeup like right yeah

00:40:14i i mean i couldn't believe how good it was and i mean he like has this big personality

00:40:20he's funny in a way that comes from a character of being like this person that's just playing coy

00:40:25with everything and feels totally comfortable saying inappropriate things and responding over

00:40:31the top like when gordon's like look at this picture what they did to my partner's like oh come

00:40:35on man don't show me that i mean just all of his reactions his responses when he starts making fun

00:40:41of the way that they they're spanish like are you guys that's the worst spanish i've ever heard like

00:40:46what are you talking about and he's talking like is this guy stupid did he make a mistake

00:40:51and in a certain sense you can see why batman was following down he's trying to figure it out

00:40:56like what does this mean what's this name and then someone else hears it and it starts just saying the

00:41:01cold blunt version of it like this guy's stupid if you don't know how spanish works with the

00:41:06rat uh would have a law not an l it starts correcting in a way that would of course immediately make batman go

00:41:12riddler wouldn't make a mistake so what on earth is going on here and so you can reinterpret it

00:41:17but just a nice way to take a character that's not front and center he's not the star of the movie

00:41:23and get an actor that can make him steal every scene that he's in and make you want more of this guy

00:41:30and he feels like he needs to be in the story to kind of progress things and have a character that's

00:41:35in kind of that mid-role that wants to take over and at the same time someone that doesn't need to be

00:41:41the main villain and so i this is just the whole movie i think was cast great that was that was

00:41:48something special and inspired because you do not look at colin farrell and go penguin oswald

00:41:54cobblepot and however that worked out that they that bat reeves is looking at him with the cast

00:42:00would go that handsome man right there is oswald cobblepot you just don't immediately think that

00:42:07it's just uh that's one of those things where people say all the time when we're trying to do

00:42:11fan castings and we're trying to guess and the normal ways that we do that i don't think are very

00:42:17effective at actually guessing who they should pick because they just know better than than us what

00:42:21they're going for you would never ever ever do a fan cast and say colin farrell for penguin you would

00:42:29never ever ever in a million years do that and it was perfect casting phenomenal casting they know

00:42:38better than us they're very smart and they know what they're doing with with these things next up

00:42:42let's talk about cat woman uh another great usage of a character where you just have this lived in

00:42:49world where in the investigation batman comes across all these lively characters that live in gotham

00:42:57and one of them is solina kyle who is working there because she kind of has to try to help

00:43:04friends it's the world that she's lived in has this skill set and then but she doesn't believe in

00:43:10what these people are doing she doesn't like them and so then she ends up partnering with batman

00:43:14for own purposes she's not a hero she's not even a vigilante she's just trying to avenge her friend

00:43:21and make right her family and all the ways that her family's been wrong and she's been wrong by her

00:43:26father but so she's partnering with batman just because they have certain aligned goals and she

00:43:32likes him and he likes her they have a nice chemistry to them in the way that they go back and forth

00:43:37i i thought that this is just a great version of cat woman the way that she played into the story

00:43:42the way that she's made sympathetic and has a skill set but she's also not too powerful when she fights

00:43:48batman she's trying to hurt him she doesn't land one punch he's just trying to deflect her

00:43:52get her under control to talk to her and she's trying to hurt him she can't land one punch and

00:43:58it's not that she can't win a fight we see later on she wins some fights and like brutally smashes a

00:44:03guy's head on a desk and so she has skills she is the cat burglar that can sneak in and crack safes

00:44:09she could fight doesn't mean she can take batman i appreciate it there's so many movies where it's

00:44:13like they want to like how on earth are we going to prop up cat woman we'll have cat woman beat up

00:44:18batman they do stuff like that that's just like you don't have to pull down batman to prop up cat

00:44:24woman and this movie knew that that you can show her a skill but you don't have to let have her land

00:44:29a punch on this trained expert martial artist crazy person that's beating up crowds of goons every

00:44:37night but then just you know the way that she's kind of incorporated with falcone and the the i didn't

00:44:44find the reveal that that's her father all that compelling because i kind of guessed it i was like

00:44:49i don't think they're gonna say that they had a relationship so what's the other relationship you

00:44:53can have that's not a relationship relationship it's his daughter okay then they reveal it was like

00:44:57okay that that that makes enough sense uh it's not i'm not blown away by it but it fits into what

00:45:02you're doing with this movie in this world i i dig it enough and so i i um i just she could pull off

00:45:10being a sympathetic character someone that cared about her friend the person the femme fatale that's

00:45:16kind of flirty with batman to maybe get him to work for her a little bit you get her as kind of

00:45:23this vengeful person and then in the end of the movie you get her going like i want batman to win

00:45:29i'm gonna go help him and so it has multiple layers to it without ever trying to present her as

00:45:35someone that is a hero that's that's not the character that she is and so just i i think this

00:45:41might be the best catwoman we've ever had i probably would say that then let's talk about

00:45:46the batmobile and the car chase so in the middle of the movie catwoman's investigation and her

00:45:51operation stuff lines up with gordon and batman's and they all show up while penguin penguin is carrying

00:45:57around some bags of money as well as a dead body and so a whole bunch of things all come together at

00:46:03once as they discovered that annika is in fact dead and we're about to have a big shootout and so

00:46:09is moment where batman pulls up his cape to block some bullets which i appreciated they actually did

00:46:14something to block bullets rather than just you know taking them so it looks like he's knocked out

00:46:18and then you just hear this engine start go and the theater when that happened like all every time i

00:46:27was like oh i i can't recall a single time we're firing up a car and i've seen every i think almost

00:46:35all but one of the fast and furious movies in the theater i can't recall any time we're firing up a car

00:46:41got a room so excited and i like i don't recall the other batmobiles ever getting this kind of reaction

00:46:47but he fires up that batmobile and starts revving up priming the engine and the theater was going wild

00:46:54my wife next to me was like this is the greatest thing that i've ever seen in my life and then

00:47:00breaks into this car chase and a lot of people are absolutely loving this chase in my my original

00:47:07review i said this movie doesn't have like a standout action sequence it has amazing shots but not like a

00:47:11standout sequence like the warehouse scene and a bunch of people countered with the car chase

00:47:16i'll i'll respect that that's your experience with it i and i totally get what matt reeves was going

00:47:22for it with the scene he's going very immersive with it and so he's he's putting the cameras at

00:47:27eye level he's not having the camera on a on a crane tracking outside of the cars he's not having

00:47:35a helicopter giving wide shots of it he's putting you in on the action so you have a camera that looks

00:47:40like it's on the hood of the car showing you their faces with the car in the background going behind it

00:47:46there's shots inside the car through the window at the other car you are in the car chase with them

00:47:53and if you love that kind of thing this is you know one of the greatest car chases of all time

00:47:58i i absolutely get what he was doing it fits the aesthetics of the movie as a whole of what he just

00:48:06puts you in the scene you feel like you're there you feel batman's presence you hear his crinkling of

00:48:12his gloves and so when you're in a car chase you're in the car with them i i just prefer a more

00:48:18cinematic traditional cinematic approach of where cameras outside the cars wide shots you can see

00:48:26what's happening that's what i want i um there's all these sequences in this chase where like penguin

00:48:32grabs his machine gun and he starts firing at a piece of paint of glass and so you see shattered glass

00:48:37smoke and a machine gun doing this but you can't really see what's happening and then you know we're

00:48:42in a car chase and we can this much of it is the car and then through this little spot right up here

00:48:47you can kind of see what's happening in the background that's just not like the way like car chase is done

00:48:52i totally get why like if you like that style of filmmaking that just it is absolutely is immersive

00:48:58you feel it so even when the crash happens at the end of it

00:49:02it crashes and you're in the car with him as it's flipping and then it flips to the perspective of

00:49:09right next to i guess batman's car watching it flip so even when you get the wide shot shot of the

00:49:14carnage it's from the perspective of another viewer batman really cool way to do that and of course you

00:49:21get the iconic shot two so many iconic moments in this one of like penguin once again that great

00:49:28colin farrell performance i got you i got you i got you and then you just see the batmobile pop up

00:49:33with this explosion behind it just awesome amazing amazing batman stuff uh and right as like you saw

00:49:40the batmobile like head towards the ramp my wife's like shut up is this really happening apparently she

00:49:45talks way too much during movies i learned that last night even though i've seen hundreds of movies

00:49:49in the theater this was the one that made me go she talks too much during movies flies through the

00:49:53explosion iconic and then batman gets out and just such a cool shot of him walking with the flames

00:50:00behind him the cape billowing upside down from penguin's perspective and then my wife turns to

00:50:06me because she won't stop talking to this movie it's like we're in a western it's like his poncho is in

00:50:11the wind and everything's like yes yes it is yes amazing amazing shot but very cool sequence this is

00:50:18without question this is my favorite batmobile i guess i should have mentioned that or this is without no

00:50:22no competition this is my favorite batmobile so then we get to the sequence where alfred gets

00:50:26blown up at the end of it so through talking with penguin they're able to figure out their spanish is

00:50:30bad it's actually url they go to a website that takes them they talk with riddler for a little bit

00:50:35they end up at the old orphanage which which in fact used to be wayne manor and they discover that

00:50:40the wayne bruce wayne is the next victim or supposed to be the next victim and um there was a prequel

00:50:48novel that came out called before the batman that basically kind of tells the origin story about

00:50:54batman and riddler sort of it gives gives it's in two parts the first part is them as teenagers the

00:50:59second part is them to like right as bruce wayne returns to gotham and starts his two-year gotham

00:51:05project and in it i i read it after i watched the movie and i'm glad i did that because in it it talks

00:51:13about the fact that edward was an orphan it talks about the fact that the old wayne manor was turned

00:51:19into the orphanage when the waynes moved into wayne tower which you see in the movie and then

00:51:23it tells the story of riddler burning down the orphanage he's the he's the one that did that um

00:51:29so it fills in a bunch of gaps that you don't really want spoiled like it spoils stuff for the

00:51:33movie if you read it before you saw the film but if you watch it afterwards it fills in some gaps

00:51:36it's not a compelling story but it is some nice background information that fleshes out the world and so

00:51:41uh and it's real short it's real quick and so i appreciate it as kind of this giving me that

00:51:45background information more so than it's like this great story but they go to this orphanage

00:51:52and they realize the next target is wayne and then it starts doing this intercut of batman driving back

00:51:57trying to call and it's it breaks the timeline at this point in time showing you information that's

00:52:03not in the actual order that it took place eventually you see alfred is kind of looking this deal

00:52:07turns it upside down realizes it's a bomb throws it and tucks behind the desk and you see him get

00:52:12blown up but knocked backwards and it's when this moment happened it was it was a little bit like

00:52:16oh no did they kill him and the other side to it was like okay so so alfred realizes okay a bomb's

00:52:22about to blow up in my face get it away from me duck behind something so the director writer clearly

00:52:27knew that that's a good idea why didn't they do that with the batman deal at the beginning where he

00:52:32blows his face off but doesn't get any damage for getting blown up anyway alfred gets injured it was

00:52:37supposed to be um bruce wayne turns out they got alfred instead and they get this uh the card in

00:52:44there and it says i'll see you in hell and this is they prime the audience really nicely with this

00:52:48one because he gets a note that says to the batman but he's bruce wayne when he opens it so bruce wayne

00:52:54opens the card to the batman it says i'll see you in hell that primes the audience so that when you

00:53:00get to the scene later on where batman talks to the riddler riddler says i told you i'd see you in hell

00:53:05and the image our brain is the audience was that bruce wayne read that and so the they're trying

00:53:10to trick us into thinking riddler has figured out that batman is bruce wayne and so they they just

00:53:16did a couple things to just prime your brain your images in your head to trick you into thinking it's

00:53:20going in a different direction than it actually does anyway so alfred gets injured but he doesn't

00:53:24get killed and this kind of sets in motion a series of kind of reveals of information where

00:53:31um bruce wayne goes and talks to falconi and falconi tells him that in fact it was uh his

00:53:39parents had someone killed because riddler releases this information that says some stuff bruce goes

00:53:44talk to falconi about it falconi says yeah it was that that's everyone else did it wasn't me it was

00:53:48all those other people but your yeah your dad had me kill a guy so that um we could shut him up about

00:53:53your mom and i they maybe should have played this up a little bit more that bruce wayne is

00:54:01emotionally compromised that's why he fell for such an obvious ruse and trap um but like so bruce wayne

00:54:08just believes this he goes in front to confront alfred and alfred's like no no man you got this

00:54:12all wrong falconi's the bad guy here your dad in a moment of desperation turned to someone he

00:54:17shouldn't have turned to and asked him to do something knowing he should have known better he should

00:54:22have known that falconi would use that to manipulate him to get control of him and he didn't he didn't

00:54:27put that together so he made a request that just led to a scenario where suddenly falconi had leverage

00:54:32over him but your dad was a good man so he was going to go to the police and then he ended up dead

00:54:36pretty sure it's falconi though i can never prove it i think there's a little bit too like given that

00:54:42the mission that bruce wayne has been on why would alfred not say this material earlier why are you

00:54:47sitting on this one you've been investigating this while bruce wayne has been

00:54:50training for 20 years because of that murder and you've never like hey man let me just tell you

00:54:58real quick i think it was that guy you're you're the world's greatest detective and really smart why

00:55:03don't you help me with this that once again these little things in the movie that are like

00:55:06i know you have to wait to have reveals and twists and turns to make it play right but it feels a little

00:55:13bit like this is information that what why would alfred not share this with bruce wayne prior to this

00:55:17moment anyway it turns out to be a nice emotional moment because they'd shown them to have such a

00:55:22cold working relationship up to this point in time finally you get the moment where bruce starts to

00:55:29accept him as the father figure and open up to that side to it so there's a little bit of a not a little

00:55:35bit there is a significant journey there with them um that that's that side of the story that i wish kind

00:55:41of in other areas had had a little bit more more weight to it so along these same lines we kind of

00:55:48start getting all of our answers at this point in time that riddler was this orphan that felt burned

00:55:53by the system the wayne charity uh renewal fund wasn't used the way it was supposed to be used

00:56:00all these people were corrupt riddler assumed this meant thomas wayne was in on all of this all along

00:56:05because of his own corruption was just setting it up for himself as this laundering scheme

00:56:09and so he's trying to kill all the people part of these lies that he felt burned him

00:56:13and part of this is also trashing all their reputations and through the journey of all of

00:56:18it we realized that behind all of it is is falconi um and i was kind of like i don't know that i didn't

00:56:26need the final reveal on it to be like oh i blew my mind or anything like that so i didn't mind the

00:56:31fact that it kind of plays out as pretty obvious like oh the mob boss he's the one that's behind the

00:56:37organized crime yeah right right there's only so many people it might have could have been and um

00:56:46if you're not going to do like a real shocking twist reveal like it was alfred all along if you're

00:56:51not going to do something like that there's not a ton of people could end up being so when you get

00:56:55to the end of it it's like yeah falconi yeah the the guy that does stuff like this is like this

00:57:00that makes sense that that makes sense it's not certainly very far from mind blowing but i guess

00:57:06it works well enough and through all this we learned that in fact it uh he personally killed

00:57:11annika sets off catwoman so catwoman goes off to go and get her revenge on him which leads us to

00:57:19the first end to the movie so catwoman goes in to confront her father about killing her friend and

00:57:25goes in there with a gun intended to kill him batman knowing she'll get herself killed if she does

00:57:29this heads in to try and stop this from happening and this is like a series of things in the movie

00:57:37that were both very cool and frustrating at the same time then like i've seen where they have cat

00:57:41woman pointing a gun at falconi and then she just misses in a way that was like i don't feel like she

00:57:46should have missed doesn't felt weird that she's like was so like she just missed like the lights

00:57:51kind of the turn off right after she shoots and so it's like the lights could have turned off right

00:57:54before and it would like it you could have played it just a little bit better to not just have it

00:57:58that she's a bad shot like it just seems strange that she's missed the shot and then this is right

00:58:03parallel to batman making his way through the building which on the one hand is an awesome

00:58:07sequence of him and with a fight sequence that is lit entirely by machine gun fire and i imagine

00:58:14that's how the that's what they thought like what would be a really cool batman fight it's in the dark

00:58:18he beats the crap out of eight guys and the only lighting it's pitch black besides their machine

00:58:24gun fire that's a fun idea for for a sequence but then when it turns into there's got two guys

00:58:31point blank at certain points machine gunning his chest and he's just walking forward

00:58:35it's where you take it in the wrong direction like if you take machine gun fire to the chest

00:58:43probably mess you up and if you're at point blank why wouldn't you just go like this towards the one

00:58:49area that is exposed human skin this pulls you out of the moment like you had such a cool shot such

00:58:55a cool sequence so many things about it are so great and then you make me go wait why isn't he

00:59:01phased by machine gun fire straight to the chest point blank why aren't they shooting for his face

00:59:07and i shouldn't be in the middle of a sequence that i'm like this is awesome but wait a minute

00:59:12i shouldn't have the boat wait a minute just design the sequence so i don't have to go but wait a

00:59:17minute but i did go but wait a minute and then uh so we get to catwoman and she beats the guy up and

00:59:23slams the guy's face on the desk that was pretty cool like that that quite a bit and then she gets

00:59:27cold cocked by falconi who um starts choking her out reveals that falconi was the one that killed her

00:59:31mother um i was i was i've seen it three times and i'm still a little bit unclear on what falconi knew

00:59:39because she she says hey dad i'm whatever her mom's kyle's daughter and i'd assumed up to that

00:59:47point in time that he knew all of that that guy that she phrased it as if he knew all of that

00:59:51information so when she says it here i was like it seemed like well she just it played like she was

00:59:59telling him information he didn't have but as the audience i felt like he knew that information

01:00:05i don't know well i don't know what you guys interpretation was what was your interpretation

01:00:08of that moment where she's like i'm i don't forget the mom's first name uh daughter i i just assumed

01:00:15that like he knew that all that all along because she's like you know when my mom died he didn't do

01:00:18anything to help help us and he knew what did did what i don't what i don't quite get track with it

01:00:27so batman shows up saves her at the last minute punches the guy one punch and he's out

01:00:31and she tries to grab the one who wants to shoot him that was a nice little touch this sort of idea

01:00:36of like what his worldview is on killing he's like you know he needs to pay he's like right but you

01:00:41don't you you've paid enough and he perceives of if she kills him it's a price for her it takes

01:00:50something from her and it's just a very insightful way with just a few lines of dialogue to present

01:00:57his view on what that would do his worldview as a whole so anyway they take falconi who's been

01:01:03arrested they're walking out and you know falconi's trying to be confident all of this and goes gordon

01:01:09like oh don't you guys you know that you're on my payroll you're working with zorro over here

01:01:12little reference to in the comics it was zorro that the waynes were going to go see when they were

01:01:18leaving um they got shot there actually has many renditions but one of the classic ones is they

01:01:23went to go see zorro and that's what they they walked out of they walk outside there's all these

01:01:27police officers there and like a we're revealing like the police force isn't entirely corrupt or

01:01:33maybe some of them have switched sides so while they're outside um oswald gets all worked up and

01:01:39he's like you rat and what's he do you understand the worldview of penguin like he's working for this

01:01:44guy has for years he's been afraid of him for what would happen if um he was ever even perceived of

01:01:50as being a rat and all of a sudden he's like finds out falconi's the rat he's like you rat and he's

01:01:55just disgusted by that he's publicly going after this very powerful person pulls out a gun to shoot

01:02:01at him i guess um which probably isn't the smartest thing to do probably that should have had some

01:02:06lingering consequence because if you pull a gun on someone in public that's that's not good and as

01:02:10this is happening riddler kills falconi right underneath the light and solving one of the the riddles that

01:02:17they'd given him much earlier in the film about bring him into the light and then you'll find me

01:02:21whatever was phrased in which case we finally actually meet the riddler so they go to the

01:02:28riddler's apartment they don't find him there someone says hey he's in that diner and then they

01:02:32go to this diner he's just sitting there waiting to get captured and this trailer was in the shot was

01:02:37in the trailers and i don't know if it's just me or because of the haircut or the way they frame

01:02:42things when i watched the trailer i thought it was robert pattinson and bruce wayne getting arrested

01:02:46it's like maybe that's my stupidity i don't know if other people thought that but maybe it's just

01:02:50the hair kind of covering the face and you didn't see like that is clearly not robert pattinson that

01:02:54is paul dano all you can see is the jacket and the hair in later trailers they kind of show batman in

01:03:00the window um and so i don't know that i i don't know why i didn't piece that together but whenever i

01:03:06first watched the trailer that first showed that shot of them walking up to him i i assume it was

01:03:10that was rob bruce wayne getting arrested um and they show riddler and so i don't know how why

01:03:15why i misinterpreted that so badly but i assume there's some other meaning to it besides uh that

01:03:19but that's my own stupidity and my ability to pick up on things from trailers when i don't do frame

01:03:24by frame reactions to them anyway we finally really meet the riddler he's been a presence throughout the

01:03:31entire film he's been killing people he's been in murder videos and even pausing on that

01:03:36another thing that i just couldn't believe how dark they went with this is i mean they really made

01:03:42these murders seem vicious and brutal so whenever the police chief guy was it pete or is that the

01:03:48mayor i don't remember which one i think pete pete is gordon's friend i think whenever he gets killed

01:03:53there's like a there's rat maze trap on him that looks like it's out of a saw movie and it's just

01:03:58you know cell phone footage viral footage of him looking terrified with rats on this weird device

01:04:05it just felt like pulled straight felt like it was pulled straight out of a saw movie but then again

01:04:10that's what seven was like too just these elaborate death trap type things and just the gnarliness of

01:04:16this movie for being pg-13 and knowing exactly what they needed to avoid showing to not get that r rating

01:04:23and um having a nasty riddler and finally we meet him in person and he is cuckoo for go-go pops just

01:04:31he gives this very big loud performance but that's because he's supposed to be this totally unhinged

01:04:39but brilliant person that's delusional that sees things that aren't there but also can envision this

01:04:46master plan for everything that takes place in the film and so you start get to this point in time

01:04:53and to me this is where it felt like the the movie kind of let the air out of the balloon

01:04:57everything up to this point time was about let's stop the serial killer and let's figure out the

01:05:05mystery of the corruption and figure out who the rat is so we've we've arrested the serial killer

01:05:13we understand it's the renewal fund is what what is being lied about falcone is the rat that was behind

01:05:19all of this that became essentially the person running the city for 20 years that's the mystery

01:05:24of everything the tension was all about answering those questions and they get answered everyone's dead

01:05:30arrested and then there's 40 more minutes and so inherently that just feels like something's tacked

01:05:36on because now we have to set up a new conflict the conflict of the first two hours of the movie

01:05:42has been resolved so now we need a new conflict a new thing has to be introduced so we can have our

01:05:47final final fight in the movie and i think that was a strange way to structure the film and i talked

01:05:54about in my main review how it feels like it crescendos at two different times you crescendo with the

01:05:59mystery that's resolved and then we set up a new conflict so we can crescendo with the action

01:06:04and you really want those to come together at the same time it's most powerful it's most meaningful

01:06:11has the best flow to it when you do it like that and when it's every question is answered

01:06:16but we're still going it's you have this finger feeling of like shouldn't we be done by now

01:06:21you answered everything you set up the conflict and you resolved it you raised the questions and you

01:06:26answered them what are we still doing here so that you get batman heading in to talk to the riddler

01:06:32and they've set up through the little scene in the riddler's apartment that bruce wayne thinks he's

01:06:38about to get out at his batman i thought that was a they play that really nicely of like the way that

01:06:43how smart they show him this ability to figure things out and the little words that are on the

01:06:47screen and then batman shows up and riddler in crazy mode is like bruce wayne bruce wayne we're like

01:06:54you you can see it on his face which that's what i said before about pattinson being able to just

01:06:59emote a lot say a lot while having a mask on with his eyes and his mouth he's able to just

01:07:05communicate so much and so he makes these little faces and you realize like he is feels like this

01:07:12thing's coming to an end he's he's being outed as bruce wayne right now and it kind of goes through

01:07:17this whole thing about bruce wayne this orphan he's not an orphan he was rich i'm a real orphan grew up

01:07:22in this horrible um orphanage where even babies were dying and you get to this point in time

01:07:30where he's like we did this together we did it me and you we're we're a great team and you this is

01:07:39where you start to fully understand what exactly has been going on throughout the entire film

01:07:43that the riddler's mindset is i'm partnering up with batman he's punishing all these bad people

01:07:53i'll punish the worst villains the worst criminals with them i'll i'll play a little game with them

01:07:59where he'll solve some puzzles and by the end of it we'll take down the biggest bad guys in town i'm

01:08:05with him i am vengeance too and you ties back to what's established very early on in that noir intro

01:08:12it's a sign they know they're in danger i am vengeance they keep repeating that all throughout

01:08:19the movie mr vengeance and then you realize oh riddler took that to mean something very different

01:08:28and do something did something very different with it there's just a nice little way to kind

01:08:33of start to pull everything together oh oh i see what's going on here and i mentioned this before

01:08:40but they do a great job of priming you to think that he knows who bruce wayne is even giving little

01:08:50clues earlier in the movie that primes your brain to take a little quote from he goes told you i'd see you

01:08:54in hell the person that read that didn't have a mask on the guy that has a mask on now so you just

01:09:00piece it together you realize no that's not what it was at all riddler's delusional and thinks he's

01:09:06helping batman and their partners in this and they're not all this brings us to our final battle

01:09:11and final little sequence where riddler's master plan was to blow up the the water wall or whatever

01:09:17flood downtown cause everyone to charge into this one stadium where the uh election

01:09:23rallies taking place and then all of his fans on the internet are gonna shoot the place up with

01:09:31rifles for for real change and so they're up in the rafters dressed up like the riddler

01:09:35ready to shoot people and um the mayor as everything's flooding gordon's trying to get her

01:09:43out of there she's like no i've got to be a hero she she runs out to give a speech you think this

01:09:48ladies what is this why is she not listening to gordon she immediately gets herself shot

01:09:52and it you see all like 20 guys up there with guns all aimed down at the crowds you're like oh

01:09:57this is gonna get bad real quick and right as you have that moment you're like oh crap man this is bad

01:10:04awesome awesome batman moment where the whole dome explodes and you just see batman drop through it

01:10:11the music kicks in and batman just starts destroying these dudes and i'll say this i don't think it's a

01:10:19great final battle because it's just way too short it doesn't involve any characters that are that have

01:10:25a name that you care about them getting beaten up and so it just it as a whole it kind of falls a

01:10:31little bit flat compared to what it could have been even with stuff that's set up in it isn't as

01:10:35powerful as i think it could have been but as these little moments that are amazing so him crashing

01:10:41through is just such a great moment where he drops down very quickly starts beating dudes up and it's

01:10:48also a moment where you immediately you sense this like he's saving people which he hasn't been doing

01:10:54the rest of the movie he's been getting vengeance and in this moment he's doing something that saves

01:11:00people because they're about to shoot people he's stopping that from happening and so in a big dramatic

01:11:06entrance he drops in starts destroying guys about to um could admit a massacre and it's just knocking

01:11:13them out left and right and knocking them off this balcony as they kind of fall down and so in the one

01:11:19sense it's very satisfying to finally see batman save people and just destroy them but like he he goes

01:11:27through and he knocks like 10 guys off in 15 seconds just drops down throws them off throws a guy over

01:11:36there and then it pauses for a little bit where you guys start to get some shots on him they drag him by

01:11:41his cape and then he blows something up he jumps back up there's fog everywhere the music kicks back

01:11:46in and he's running through the fog uses a gun and the batman uses a gun as a bat on these guys knocks

01:11:52guys down and then he gets shot in the chest like we're one minute into this fight and it's almost over

01:11:58that's really disappointing that just i feel like you you've been waiting the whole movie to have like a

01:12:05the throwdown where he's taking guys out stopping the main thread this is our final battle of the movie

01:12:11it's so short as a final battle and but i appreciate the fact that finally he takes a

01:12:17gunshot and it actually phases him a little bit and he's in bad shape and has a sequence where the

01:12:21guy like slowly reloads his double barrel shotgun points it in batman's face and fighting for a movie

01:12:29where the whole time people are shooting him in the chest finally someone's aiming at his face that

01:12:33can be is this is exposed right here he's aiming at it and then catwoman shows up takes the guy out

01:12:40and you're like oh that's nice and once again feels like there could have been more here of

01:12:45like catwoman doing more than just kicking this guy two times there could have been more to like make

01:12:49it more exciting more involved she saves the day and they pause to kiss each other instead of like

01:12:56hey let's let's make sure we're clear let's make sure we're all good they pause to have a little

01:13:01makeout session and of course it's not over with so then bad guy shows up starts dragging her off to

01:13:06kill her bruce wayne who can barely move pulls something out of his pocket my interpretation of

01:13:10this it was it was the bane venom if you don't know the the run leading up to nightfall nightfall

01:13:17is the comic book run where bane frees everyone from arkham and then once batman is exhausted

01:13:24use he breaks batman's back that's the famous bane storyline and bane of course runs this juice

01:13:30through his body that makes him jacked the run-up to that i believe it was called venom and it's i

01:13:35think batman failed to save a kid because he wasn't quite strong enough so he basically gets addicted

01:13:40to this stuff that amps him up and it's the bane venom introducing the stuff that jacks amps you up

01:13:45gives you a makes you very strong but also makes you a little bit crazy and i'm somewhere i'm like

01:13:50very quickly summarizing this so don't take that as word for word i don't know if i failed my test on

01:13:54the storylines the name of all it but the the juice that he used that was a precursor leading

01:14:00into the actual nightfall bane plot line that's immediately where my brain went where he's like

01:14:05he can barely move he's not strong enough to save the day pull something out of his leg that's a

01:14:08glowing color shoots it into his leg suddenly he's amped up beats the crap out of a guy and won't stop

01:14:14he just keeps pummeling the guy's face until two people pull him off and he's about to punch gordon

01:14:19until he kind of snaps out of it but he's still hyperventilating seems like they could be alluding

01:14:25to where they might be going down the line with some of the stuff and so we have this moment they

01:14:31take the guy's mask off and he just goes i am vengeance establishing that these guys think that

01:14:37they're doing batman's work they think they're continuing what he's doing and punishing these

01:14:41people and trying to change the city through violence and they say that like you know violence is

01:14:46the way that was their takeaway from batman so then he goes in the final little section where

01:14:51the water starts rushing in and there's like electric cables falling everywhere so batman jumps

01:14:56up grabs the cable chops it falls into the water and then kind of opens some stuff up to let the

01:15:01little boy out he once again saves the little boy lets the mayors out lights a flare and walks out and

01:15:06rescues them it seems like another second segment where it seemed like in this moment he's finally saving

01:15:12people overtly going to go rescue them stop the cable from electrocuting he's not punishing vic bad

01:15:17guys he is doing something that could hurt him to help others and then being the light to guide them

01:15:24out it's felt like once again a sequence that if you play the same plot points basically it's a little

01:15:32different that there's electricity everywhere there's people trapped as water is rising no police officers

01:15:39can go in there because they're going to get electrocuted or they're going to drown and so

01:15:43batman dives in dangerously stops the electricity and this moment where everyone at the beginning of

01:15:49the movie was afraid of batman they suddenly view him as someone that's a signal of hope that can

01:15:55rescue them as a hero let's just thought it was played weird because it the plot point was there the

01:16:01moment was there but it didn't seem nearly as heroic it didn't pay off as much as maybe it could have

01:16:05there's so many things in this movie where it's like you set up a great plot point love the basic

01:16:10vibe of it but it was like you were so close to that a plus and then did the not quite they didn't

01:16:16do the a plus version of it at least for me they did did so close to so much brilliance but not quite

01:16:22there so he guides them out and we kind of go into the epilogue of the movie so this will lead us into

01:16:29the epilogue of the film where it cuts from him walking with that flare to then something in the

01:16:35way playing again him doing the voiceover noir once again and kind of saying what he's learned that you

01:16:42know he can't just be vengeance and like he's had the impact in the city but it's the wrong one he

01:16:46pushed people towards violence and that's not the right way so suddenly you show batman and it's no

01:16:52longer about punishing the bad guys being vengeance against them he's just helping people that are in all

01:16:58the despair in the daylight he is out helping people covered in the mud and everything it's a

01:17:03shot they put in the trailer it's like one of the last shots in the movie they put a bunch of the last

01:17:07shots in this film are in all of the trailers um but he's helping people and so they very subtly

01:17:15and some people probably appreciate the fact that it wasn't all heavy-handed and they didn't try and

01:17:21emotionally manipulate you but they really set up this thing of batman learning to be a hero

01:17:28batman learning your role is to save people and they use the one little kid to kind of symbolize

01:17:35a little bit of what he's trying to do and they have little moments where he saves the kid and at

01:17:38the end he saves a bunch of people the beginning people are afraid of him at the end someone's

01:17:42reaching out to touch him for comfort it's all kind of there but it's it's a little bit more subtle

01:17:47than i i would have done i i would have done it a little bit more heavy-handed and it's all like it's

01:17:52all the right points a little bit too subtle all and that's the keep recurring theme but maybe i

01:17:58just like things a little bit more heavy-handed some of you probably love that they didn't bang

01:18:01you over the head with what they're trying to say but man there's could have been some big swelling

01:18:06emotions and to contrast with the nolan films you have these moments where uh rachel in batman begins

01:18:14has been just talking down to bruce wayne for wasting his life wasting his legacy being this playboy

01:18:18and so in the final act where you just have this moment where he repeats back to her what she had

01:18:25said to him and you just immediately she realizes bruce has been doing something it's a very different

01:18:32version of what i was thinking but he dedicated his life to saving this city in that moment of

01:18:38realization it just it just swells the emotions and that's not really what matt reeves did with this

01:18:44movie he just he wasn't going for those types of moments and i wish he had also in the epilogue

01:18:50i feel like they set up i i just kept waiting waiting to have them just have a little little

01:18:57scene at the end of the epilogue where bruce wayne meets with the mayor and he's at she's giving a

01:19:03speech and then maybe bruce wayne is standing next to her he's writing a check doesn't need to be a big

01:19:09swell moment anything like that but even just subtle little scenes that indicate bruce wayne

01:19:15the character realizes that i need to use the wayne name to save the city too not just the symbol of

01:19:20the bat the wayne family name is part of saving the city and likewise the wayne family name needs to

01:19:26stand for something good and so you just have bruce wayne in that little epilogue at one of these

01:19:33speeches just shaking her hand just says like you know the wayne foundation is partnering with the city and

01:19:39we're going to something simple two lines of dialogue with one little shot 10 seconds of

01:19:48screen time i think that would have paid off something that was set up as part of bruce wayne's

01:19:53arc in the movie like it's there it's implied and you just do one shot it doesn't even have to make

01:19:58the movie longer you just add one change out a couple shots of him him there at the speech and i

01:20:03think that would have been paid off really nicely um so close so close and then i can i can see all

01:20:11the little things that i think would make it just that much better i gave it an a minus i stand by

01:20:15that maybe it'll go up as i process it with time but i definitely have some things that i think could

01:20:20have been better about this film and then also in this epilogue we get the final moment with cat

01:20:25woman where closes out on them which i thought was interesting because it's the movie's not really

01:20:31i wouldn't take the movies being about them so closing out not on this speech that he gives

01:20:39about growing changing realizing that he needs to be a hero and serve the people doesn't close out on

01:20:44that number and maybe intentionally matt reeves was like i don't want to i don't want this to have

01:20:49the same ending as the dark knight dark knight engines ends with the speech about batman i don't

01:20:54want what he's learned in the movie or obviously gordon giving a speech about what batman's learned

01:21:00in the movie what this what the audience supposed to take away i don't want to end my note on the

01:21:04same note as that movie because it just draws immediate comparisons so i'll have the speech and then

01:21:09i'll i'll show close out with this scene about cat woman it's just odd to close out on that that

01:21:13feels like that should have come first so but it was you know nice enough um establishing that

01:21:19they matter that she can come back they care about each other but um he loves gotham more than he loves

01:21:25her and then once again you get some of these final these shots that have been all the trailers

01:21:30there's the earliest leaked shots of the movie and it's like the last shot in the film of them

01:21:34riding their bikes through that that uh cemetery that stuff was leaked years ago and we saw exactly

01:21:40that stuff and saw that it was his stuntman not robert pants and doing all that and finally you

01:21:45gotta talk about arkham asylum and the mysterious laughing prisoner so there have been rumors for

01:21:53months that barry k whatever i don't remember how to pronounce his last name um guy from eternals

01:21:59was gonna play joker that's been rumored for months literally months and then there were some

01:22:04leaks that came over the last couple of weeks where it said laughing prisoner is played by by barry

01:22:09and unfortunately someone i'd heard the the rumors about him playing joker for a little bit i hadn't

01:22:17heard the specific i don't follow leak stuff at all and someone told me in a live stream like yeah

01:22:21they actually had these leaks and so as soon as it cut in the epilogue to an arkham asylum sequence

01:22:25and there's a guy talking was like okay here it is right i wish i wish this could have been a

01:22:30surprise for me and wasn't spoiled by someone telling me leaks that i did not want to hear i had no

01:22:35interest in hearing about leaks but oh well it happens when i do this for a living i hear things i

01:22:39don't want to hear quite often so they start having this little bit and he second you know one of the

01:22:44second things he says is you know uses the word clown and he's toying a little bit with riddler who's

01:22:51freaking out gives him his own little riddler where the answer to it is a friend and so this person wants

01:22:57to be his friend and then it closes out with him laughing you never see his face you just see this

01:23:04silhouette they use the word clown and he laughs and he looks very freaky behind the door

01:23:12the rumors were is rumors that he's playing joker he said clown makes you think joker he starts laughing

01:23:20makes you think joker uh i've had three different people say they got the impression it was two-faced

01:23:26i got out of the imax screening and one of the i i announced that i met some fans at the that's

01:23:33where i did the audience reactions and everything one of the people i talked to there he goes was

01:23:36that two-faced i was like what the all the rumors is joker he said clown he started laughing

01:23:40and then last night opening night i had another person say at first i thought it was two-faced i

01:23:47very much got a two-faced vibe because whenever they showed this face he looks scarred and got a

01:23:51two-faced vibe and then he started laughing i went okay it's joker and then i had someone message me

01:23:56this morning likewise saying like i know that they're trying to imply that it was joker i really

01:24:03got a two-faced vibe from it i thought it was interesting three people totally separate from one

01:24:08another in three different cities all two of them in person in two different cities and one of them

01:24:14over the internet all got a two-faced vibe from it so what was my takeaway from it whoever it is

01:24:20is if you heavily imply it's joker i hope it's not because it just seems too obvious and i don't

01:24:25want the joker being revealed like that it seems like an odd way to do it um here's what i do hope

01:24:31they were teasing though that in the next one whoever that person is maybe it is joker but if it is i

01:24:38don't want him loose on the city what if they they hannibal lecter joker because if you've seen

01:24:44silence of the lambs hannibal lecter basically toys with the people in the other rooms next to him

01:24:49and he just he says exactly the right thing to get under their skin and mess with them just a

01:24:55little bit and then he's used as a sort to hunt source to hunt down buffalo bill the the real

01:24:59villain of the story hannibal lecter is not the villain of the story he's only in the movie for

01:25:04a little bit really what if the joker maybe two-face is in arkham basically the whole movie

01:25:12and he knows something about the person that is the villain and he's just hannibal lectering the

01:25:17whole thing just toying with people joking with them driving them crazy he has information and

01:25:23then he's toying with batman commissioner gordon in the process in which case you have this movie's

01:25:30heavily influenced by seven what if the second one is heavily influenced by silence of the lamps which

01:25:37would tonally idea wise you could very much do something similar to that that'd be really cool

01:25:45that'd be really cool if they did something like that so if you're going to do this detective

01:25:49version of batman which i love that they're doing it what a great next step if that's where it's

01:25:54headed but as for the specific performance um it's not just not enough there for me to have a big

01:25:59opinion where it's like implied it's joker but not necessarily you don't really see his face

01:26:04and you see him messing with him i like the idea of where it could be going especially if they go with

01:26:08the silence of the lambs hannibal lecter idea you know i there's not enough there to comment too

01:26:15much beyond that all righty so this is an unbelievably long little spoiler review thank

01:26:21you guys so much for sticking with me through this very long video it's a movie that has a lot in there

01:26:26to to talk about to dissect there's a lot of beloved characters there's a ton of plot points it's a very

01:26:31long movie and i've seen it three times so i probably picked up on more stuff or remembered more stuff to

01:26:36be able to elaborate on and i've had more conversations because i've had kind of a week

01:26:39to process it with people so that helps to make me go long overall i love that we have this type of

01:26:46batman movie that was this dark and such a detective story with this vicious bruce wayne

01:26:50little bit weird with the way that the mysteries are resolved before we get to the final battle and so

01:26:55it makes for a final battle where you don't really care when any of these faceless people are beat up

01:27:00you just don't care because you don't know who they are and so it's not it's tough to have a big

01:27:04satisfying moment if we defeated these guys we've never met before you just don't care all that

01:27:09much and it's not resolving any specific plot point it's just stopping the bad guys so it might as well

01:27:14be the opening of the movie it could be the middle sequence you kind of want this big cathartic release

01:27:19in your final battle like we stopped them and the way that it plays out you don't really get that so

01:27:25that's disappointing and there's all throughout the movie little things that are more nitpicks the big

01:27:29thing that kind of maybe the length and the way that it's structured kind of big issue and then

01:27:34there's also kind of those nitpicks all along the way like hit batman walking towards gunfire

01:27:38throughout the film doesn't stop me from liking the film it's a bit of a nitpick but it is something

01:27:43that pulls me out a little bit those are the little details that make the difference between an a and an

01:27:47a plus uh the plot being structured weird is the difference between being that a plus and getting

01:27:53to an a minus where there's some structural stuff maybe a little bit too long and combine them

01:27:57together and i'm confident in kind of that a minus of like love that it exists there's definitely some

01:28:03stuff that i wish was a little bit different tweaked adjusted here and there all righty so that's my

01:28:08take on the batman i've reviewed each of the batman movies over the last couple weeks or or over the

01:28:14course of my channel you can check those out right over there if you want to see my reviews i'm going

01:28:17to be updating all of my batman rankings because we finally got a new batman movie you can check those

01:28:21out right down there if you're watching them today it's my old versions but over the next couple weeks

01:28:24all of those right over there will be updated thank you so much for watching and keep talking movies too much

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