00:00Right. So you think, in fact, Ukraine has played its cards quite skillfully by not showing any resistance to this plan, perhaps in the knowledge, as you say, that the plan was never going to see the light of day.
00:11Is that roughly what you think the calculation might have been in Kyiv?
00:14Well, I think they know that rather than confronting Trump and arguing with the United States, it's better to say we're always willing to talk.
00:24We're always willing to negotiate. We're ready to meet anytime, anywhere. Let's get to work on this.
00:30And that's exactly what they did. And Rubio was dispatched to go do that.
00:34And Rubio could see this plan for what it was and knew that it had to be adjusted.
00:39So I think this was all very well played to take something that was unacceptable and turn it into something acceptable that puts the onus back on the Russians to agree to a ceasefire or not.
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